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Post by Elle Em on Apr 4, 2018 18:16:37 GMT -5
So we all know that in their potential future, Cal Greene murdered someone Phoebe cared about very much, though we don't know who. This was the thing that would eventually set Phoebe off, cause her to kill him, and her to then be killed because of it. But of course, the whole thing never happened.
But they never brought up the subject ever again, not of the lessons they learned in the episode, but also not of Cal Greene. Didn't they ever wonder about him? He existed in their reality the entire time. He had to have killed the person Phoebe cared about sometime in the next nine years of their lives. Didn't they ever think about who he killed? Or what he was doing while they lived out their lives?
It seems strange to me that he was never brought up again. They could have made it come up in one of the later seasons as they get closer to the time when he would have committed his murder. Maybe it could be a struggle for them to perhaps know he'd be playing a baseball game in San Francisco and have to come to terms with the idea that they can't punish him, especially if he hasn't killed anyone yet. Or maybe they have to reconcile the idea that he's different in this reality too, and doesn't have it in him to hurt anyone, and Phoebe especially has to find some peace in the idea that he's living out in the world somewhere, knowing what he did in their other reality.
There are so many possibilities that I wish they would have explored.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 4, 2018 20:38:17 GMT -5
Actually the Season 9 comics covered this topic in my favorite issue, 'Morality Bites Back'. I won't give too much info about it in case anyone doesn't want to be spoiled (and wasn't nuts on the choice of who the person who Cal Greene killed was, although it fit the story very nicely), but at least Paul Ruditis didn't forget about that episode...
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Post by rebooted on Apr 4, 2018 23:17:40 GMT -5
Do you think Cal Green kills Cupid somehow?
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Apr 5, 2018 5:08:35 GMT -5
It bugged me they never addressed this episode and do a follow-up. But I think the person he killed is not as important to the story, that the writers didn't really bother to explain who it really was or think it's a person the sisters didn't even meet yet in the present.
But Cal Green killing Cupid, I'm not so sure. How would a mortal man even kill a Cupid?
It's too bad this episode wasn't a follow-up in the final season or even final episode. Even if they somehow time-jumped the final season so it reached 2009?
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 5, 2018 5:08:44 GMT -5
I would assume it's someone close to Phoebe for her to have killed Cal originally meaning a friend or family member obviously.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 5, 2018 6:14:21 GMT -5
I've seen fanfics where it's Paige - hence why she wasn't part of the future - that would be enough for an evil Phoebe to want to murder even if she didn't know that Paige was a half-sister and instead was just a very close friend who seemed like a sister.
I've also seen fanfics where it's Victor - again the reason why he wasn't part of that future.
It could also be Darryl - he's not part of the future either.
If Rebooted who suggested Cupid meant Coop, I've never seen that done, but again that would be enough. Although if the Charmed Ones had turned evil, I don't think the Elders would send a cupid to Phoebe.
And as others suggested, I'm not sure how a mortal could kill a cupid.
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Post by w1llow on Apr 5, 2018 8:58:49 GMT -5
Phoebe's power also never progressed to that stage except in the comics. Which I always thought was a shame, I would've liked to see Phoebe able to do some sort of psychic attack instead of just reflecting energy balls which never really made sense to me. But I guess since she lost her powers anyway, it's kinda redundant.
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Post by gzv969 on Apr 5, 2018 19:41:06 GMT -5
“The eyes have it” would have been a great Segway to phoebe getting those level of powers. She had such a surge and advancement in her power abilities in this episode and everyone agreed her powers had now advanced. But no reference to that advancement in later episodes except for “Sand francisco dreamin” where she’s projected into another future event while dreaming. Her being able to project herself into her premonitions of future events combined with her empathy and the ability to channel energy and others feelings, including hers, could potentially have given her the ability to channel enough energy that could potentially kill anyone she touched if she decided to concentrate all her energy on them. In morality bites phoebe premonitioned cal green to death. She probably channeled all the hurt his victim had felt while dying back onto him. Forcing him to feel all the pain of what his victim felt while dying potentially killing him.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 6, 2018 4:03:07 GMT -5
Phoebe being able to channel all the emotions of the victim Cal Greene killed would've been much better use of her power had it been emotion based and seen in the tv series as she'd have needed to touch their foreheads making her not stronger than Piper, have a unique way to her power and kept Paige able to deflect energy/fireballs etc. Plus it would've gone well with premonitions and that aspect of the power being dangerous meant she wouldn't have used it all the time and so still would've needed martial arts on the side which we saw rarely after season 5.
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Post by Sadrick on Apr 6, 2018 7:12:09 GMT -5
It bugged me they never addressed this episode and do a follow-up. But I think the person he killed is not as important to the story, that the writers didn't really bother to explain who it really was or think it's a person the sisters didn't even meet yet in the present. But Cal Green killing Cupid, I'm not so sure. How would a mortal man even kill a Cupid?It's too bad this episode wasn't a follow-up in the final season or even final episode. Even if they somehow time-jumped the final season so it reached 2009? With all the technology and resources at humanity's disposal, do you really want to put that idea to the test? As grotesque as it sounds, a plain old wood chipper would turn Cupid into ground chuck. Magical or not, I don't see how he could regenerate from that. It's not like he has Source standard regenerative vitality where you can be reconstituted from getting blown up. |
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Apr 6, 2018 19:58:05 GMT -5
It bugged me they never addressed this episode and do a follow-up. But I think the person he killed is not as important to the story, that the writers didn't really bother to explain who it really was or think it's a person the sisters didn't even meet yet in the present. But Cal Green killing Cupid, I'm not so sure. How would a mortal man even kill a Cupid?It's too bad this episode wasn't a follow-up in the final season or even final episode. Even if they somehow time-jumped the final season so it reached 2009? With all the technology and resources at humanity's disposal, do you really want to put that idea to the test? As grotesque as it sounds, a plain old wood chipper would turn Cupid into ground chuck. Magical or not, I don't see how he could regenerate from that. It's not like he has Source standard regenerative vitality where you can be reconstituted from getting blown up. You do bring up a good point, I guess since we have not much knowledge about Cupids or how they can die. But yeah, Cupid's would most likely be much lower compared to other demons. So I'm sure they are easier to kill than them. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 7, 2018 0:47:11 GMT -5
With all the technology and resources at humanity's disposal, do you really want to put that idea to the test? As grotesque as it sounds, a plain old wood chipper would turn Cupid into ground chuck. Magical or not, I don't see how he could regenerate from that. It's not like he has Source standard regenerative vitality where you can be reconstituted from getting blown up. You do bring up a good point, I guess since we have not much knowledge about Cupids or how they can die. But yeah, Cupid's would most likely be much lower compared to other demons. So I'm sure they are easier to kill than them. Thinking about it, based on 'Heartbreak City', not Coop, the only way to kill a cupid is to kill love. |
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Apr 8, 2018 0:22:59 GMT -5
You do bring up a good point, I guess since we have not much knowledge about Cupids or how they can die. But yeah, Cupid's would most likely be much lower compared to other demons. So I'm sure they are easier to kill than them. Thinking about it, based on 'Heartbreak City', not Coop, the only way to kill a cupid is to kill love. Great job your exactly right. Gosh I haven't seen that episode in a while. I missed that. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 8, 2018 5:09:04 GMT -5
It would make sense that Cupids are destroyed by love seeing as their matchmakers anyway.
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