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Post by peytonhalliwell on May 12, 2018 0:26:40 GMT -5
Since Paige is half whiteligher, she has roughly half the powers of a full whitelighter. Since Paige has kids with Henry (a mortal), would the powers of her daughters be cut back even more?
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Post by sky1 on May 12, 2018 6:24:40 GMT -5
I sure hope not. The hybrid idea bugged me from the start. And should have never been used. Also iirc in the comics one or both Paige's kids were adopted.....
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Post by Esmeralda on May 12, 2018 8:23:42 GMT -5
In the comics, it's her son who is. Naturally. We HAVE to make sure that Piper has the only boys with powers, right? *roll eyes*
In the comics, one of Paige's twin daughters can freeze things and the other is a firestarter. Neither have shown signs of having whitelighter powers.
My favorite fanfics show one of the twins just having whitelighter powers and one of them just having just witch powers. They usually showing her son having the same powers as Chris. The fact that their father is mortal doesn't affect a thing. That's what I think should've happened.
But that's the part that irritated me most about hybrids (and if Chris is also a hybrid, why didn't he have a whitelighter-affected power? Even Kern knew the idea of hybrids was stupid).
It's like the Charmed Ones. Their dad was a mortal. So did that make them half-witches and affect their powers? Of course not. The same thing should've been true when you add a whitelighter. If anything, they should've made it clear that Paige is a witch with whitelighter powers. That - being a Charmed One - is what makes her special. If she just had whitelighter powers, what could she do with them alone? Not be powerful at all because her powers are strictly defensive and much weaker than the witch version of moving things with her mind where Prue just had to wave her hand rather than call and ricochet. That's why they gave Chris the witch version of moving things with his mind rather than Paige's whitelighter version. As I said. Even Kern knew Paige's whitelighter version was weaker than the witch one.
So Paige's kids could have as many whitelighhter powers as Paige has or more, just like Patty's kids (despite the fact that her father was a mortal) didn't have weaker versions of her powers. The fact that Paige's kids' father is a mortal shouldn't affect powers one single bit.
The idea of quarter-whitelighter is simply dumb, almost as dumb as half-whitelighter because she can't be because she's not dead!
But if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your own fanfic, like those fanfic writers, you can do whatever you want.
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Post by peytonhalliwell on May 12, 2018 9:14:12 GMT -5
In the comics, it's her son who is. Naturally. We HAVE to make sure that Piper has the only boys with powers, right? *roll eyes* In the comics, one of Paige's twin daughters can freeze things and the other is a firestarter. Neither have shown signs of having whitelighter powers. My favorite fanfics show one of the twins just having whitelighter powers and one of them just having just witch powers. They usually showing her son having the same powers as Chris. The fact that their father is mortal doesn't affect a thing. That's what I think should've happened. But that's the part that irritated me most about hybrids (and if Chris is also a hybrid, why didn't he have a whitelighter-affected power? Even Kern knew the idea of hybrids was stupid). It's like the Charmed Ones. Their dad was a mortal. So did that make them half-witches and affect their powers? Of course not. The same thing should've been true when you add a whitelighter. If anything, they should've made it clear that Paige is a witch with whitelighter powers. That - being a Charmed One - is what makes her special. If she just had whitelighter powers, what could she do with them alone? Not be powerful at all because her powers are strictly defensive and much weaker than the witch version of moving things with her mind where Prue just had to wave her hand rather than call and ricochet. That's why they gave Chris the witch version of moving things with his mind rather than Paige's whitelighter version. As I said. Even Kern knew Paige's whitelighter version was weaker than the witch one. So Paige's kids could have as many whitelighhter powers as Paige has or more, just like Patty's kids (despite the fact that her father was a mortal) didn't have weaker versions of her powers. The fact that Paige's kids' father is a mortal shouldn't affect powers one single bit. The idea of quarter-whitelighter is simply dumb, almost as dumb as half-whitelighter because she can't be because she's not dead! But if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your own fanfic, like those fanfic writers, you can do whatever you want. Oh good, I’m not the only one that sounded stupid lol. Someone was writing a fic I’m reading tried to introduce that idea and got a little annoyed.
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Post by Esmeralda on May 12, 2018 10:03:27 GMT -5
In the comics, it's her son who is. Naturally. We HAVE to make sure that Piper has the only boys with powers, right? *roll eyes* In the comics, one of Paige's twin daughters can freeze things and the other is a firestarter. Neither have shown signs of having whitelighter powers. My favorite fanfics show one of the twins just having whitelighter powers and one of them just having just witch powers. They usually showing her son having the same powers as Chris. The fact that their father is mortal doesn't affect a thing. That's what I think should've happened. But that's the part that irritated me most about hybrids (and if Chris is also a hybrid, why didn't he have a whitelighter-affected power? Even Kern knew the idea of hybrids was stupid). It's like the Charmed Ones. Their dad was a mortal. So did that make them half-witches and affect their powers? Of course not. The same thing should've been true when you add a whitelighter. If anything, they should've made it clear that Paige is a witch with whitelighter powers. That - being a Charmed One - is what makes her special. If she just had whitelighter powers, what could she do with them alone? Not be powerful at all because her powers are strictly defensive and much weaker than the witch version of moving things with her mind where Prue just had to wave her hand rather than call and ricochet. That's why they gave Chris the witch version of moving things with his mind rather than Paige's whitelighter version. As I said. Even Kern knew Paige's whitelighter version was weaker than the witch one. So Paige's kids could have as many whitelighhter powers as Paige has or more, just like Patty's kids (despite the fact that her father was a mortal) didn't have weaker versions of her powers. The fact that Paige's kids' father is a mortal shouldn't affect powers one single bit. The idea of quarter-whitelighter is simply dumb, almost as dumb as half-whitelighter because she can't be because she's not dead! But if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your own fanfic, like those fanfic writers, you can do whatever you want. Oh good, I’m not the only one that sounded stupid lol. Someone was writing a fic I’m reading tried to introduce that idea and got a little annoyed. Unfortunately a lot of fans feel that way and it annoys me a LOT! But again, if it's their fanfic, it's their rules. Just not following canon.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 10, 2018 19:59:28 GMT -5
In the comics, it's her son who is. Naturally. We HAVE to make sure that Piper has the only boys with powers, right? *roll eyes* In the comics, one of Paige's twin daughters can freeze things and the other is a firestarter. Neither have shown signs of having whitelighter powers. My favorite fanfics show one of the twins just having whitelighter powers and one of them just having just witch powers. They usually showing her son having the same powers as Chris. The fact that their father is mortal doesn't affect a thing. That's what I think should've happened. But that's the part that irritated me most about hybrids (and if Chris is also a hybrid, why didn't he have a whitelighter-affected power? Even Kern knew the idea of hybrids was stupid). It's like the Charmed Ones. Their dad was a mortal. So did that make them half-witches and affect their powers? Of course not. The same thing should've been true when you add a whitelighter. If anything, they should've made it clear that Paige is a witch with whitelighter powers. That - being a Charmed One - is what makes her special. If she just had whitelighter powers, what could she do with them alone? Not be powerful at all because her powers are strictly defensive and much weaker than the witch version of moving things with her mind where Prue just had to wave her hand rather than call and ricochet. That's why they gave Chris the witch version of moving things with his mind rather than Paige's whitelighter version. As I said. Even Kern knew Paige's whitelighter version was weaker than the witch one. So Paige's kids could have as many whitelighhter powers as Paige has or more, just like Patty's kids (despite the fact that her father was a mortal) didn't have weaker versions of her powers. The fact that Paige's kids' father is a mortal shouldn't affect powers one single bit. The idea of quarter-whitelighter is simply dumb, almost as dumb as half-whitelighter because she can't be because she's not dead! But if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your own fanfic, like those fanfic writers, you can do whatever you want. It is simple genetics. You gain genes from both of your parents. Piper, Phoebe and Prue weren't called part mortal because saying that didn't offer anything. It would have been pointless to say nor should it have had any effect in their witches power because mortals have no powers. However Whitlighter are magical creatures with many powers. Also Chris had TKO. I don't get what you people don't get about genetics? Was it not taught in your school? Biologically Paige is 50% of her mother and 50% of her father. She could have easily gotten the witch gene from her mother and whitelighter gene from her father. How some people get their hair color or eyes from one parent or the other. It is simple genetics. Also genes can be recessive and dominate. This means that a witch and Whitelighter can have a child but the child could be either both or either are simply by one of the genes being dominate and the other being recessive however both genes would still pass on through the bloodline. Similar to how a couple, both with black hair, can have a child with blonde hair or red hair. Saying Paige is Half Whitelighter/Half witch is no dumber than calling a biracial child half whatever/half whatever. Paige didn't just receive her mothers witch Gene but also her fathers whitelighter gene. Also I have only seen a hand full of fans complain about the hybrid thing. When I say hand full I mean about 10-20 max which isn't a lot for a show that brought in millions of viewers.
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Post by Hexenwerk on Jun 10, 2018 21:38:07 GMT -5
In the comics, it's her son who is. Naturally. We HAVE to make sure that Piper has the only boys with powers, right? *roll eyes* In the comics, one of Paige's twin daughters can freeze things and the other is a firestarter. Neither have shown signs of having whitelighter powers. My favorite fanfics show one of the twins just having whitelighter powers and one of them just having just witch powers. They usually showing her son having the same powers as Chris. The fact that their father is mortal doesn't affect a thing. That's what I think should've happened. But that's the part that irritated me most about hybrids (and if Chris is also a hybrid, why didn't he have a whitelighter-affected power? Even Kern knew the idea of hybrids was stupid). It's like the Charmed Ones. Their dad was a mortal. So did that make them half-witches and affect their powers? Of course not. The same thing should've been true when you add a whitelighter. If anything, they should've made it clear that Paige is a witch with whitelighter powers. That - being a Charmed One - is what makes her special. If she just had whitelighter powers, what could she do with them alone? Not be powerful at all because her powers are strictly defensive and much weaker than the witch version of moving things with her mind where Prue just had to wave her hand rather than call and ricochet. That's why they gave Chris the witch version of moving things with his mind rather than Paige's whitelighter version. As I said. Even Kern knew Paige's whitelighter version was weaker than the witch one. So Paige's kids could have as many whitelighhter powers as Paige has or more, just like Patty's kids (despite the fact that her father was a mortal) didn't have weaker versions of her powers. The fact that Paige's kids' father is a mortal shouldn't affect powers one single bit. The idea of quarter-whitelighter is simply dumb, almost as dumb as half-whitelighter because she can't be because she's not dead! But if you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your own fanfic, like those fanfic writers, you can do whatever you want. It is simple genetics. You gain genes from both of your parents. Piper, Phoebe and Prue weren't called part mortal because saying that didn't offer anything. It would have been pointless to say nor should it have had any effect in their witches power because mortals have no powers. However Whitlighter are magical creatures with many powers. Also Chris had TKO. I don't get what you people don't get about genetics? Was it not taught in your school? Biologically Paige is 50% of her mother and 50% of her father. She could have easily gotten the witch gene from her mother and whitelighter gene from her father. How some people get their hair color or eyes from one parent or the other. It is simple genetics. Also genes can be recessive and dominate. This means that a witch and Whitelighter can have a child but the child could be either both or either are simply by one of the genes being dominate and the other being recessive however both genes would still pass on through the bloodline. Similar to how a couple, both with black hair, can have a child with blonde hair or red hair. Saying Paige is Half Whitelighter/Half witch is no dumber than calling a biracial child half whatever/half whatever. Paige didn't just receive her mothers witch Gene but also her fathers whitelighter gene. Also I have only seen a hand full of fans complain about the hybrid thing. When I say hand full I mean about 10-20 max which isn't a lot for a show that brought in millions of viewers. Yeah, but Whitelighters weren't born Whitelighters, they were made into them. (Specifically because they were people who did important good deeds, they earned their power as a way to help future doers of good.) Why should their powers be genetically based from that point on? It makes sense why witches' powers are genetic, since they're born with their powers. I personally think it's kind of ridiculous to argue on the basis of reality anyway when the show has magic, mystical creatures, and dead men getting a new gig and then siring offspring despite being dead (Sam, Leo). I've seen numerous fans complain about the hybrid thing once prompted to think about why it's problematic, and I'm among those fans who never liked it, but everyone has their own viewpoint. Also, a lot of those viewers were fairly casual viewers I'm willing to bet, or even if invested in it not to the point of participating in any Charmed fan community. It's not fair to say ten or twenty people out of millions when this board, which is the only active Charmed community I've found, doesn't even probably have more than ten or twenty people who regularly post on it.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 11, 2018 0:34:56 GMT -5
It is simple genetics. You gain genes from both of your parents. Piper, Phoebe and Prue weren't called part mortal because saying that didn't offer anything. It would have been pointless to say nor should it have had any effect in their witches power because mortals have no powers. However Whitlighter are magical creatures with many powers. Also Chris had TKO. I don't get what you people don't get about genetics? Was it not taught in your school? Biologically Paige is 50% of her mother and 50% of her father. She could have easily gotten the witch gene from her mother and whitelighter gene from her father. How some people get their hair color or eyes from one parent or the other. It is simple genetics. Also genes can be recessive and dominate. This means that a witch and Whitelighter can have a child but the child could be either both or either are simply by one of the genes being dominate and the other being recessive however both genes would still pass on through the bloodline. Similar to how a couple, both with black hair, can have a child with blonde hair or red hair. Saying Paige is Half Whitelighter/Half witch is no dumber than calling a biracial child half whatever/half whatever. Paige didn't just receive her mothers witch Gene but also her fathers whitelighter gene. Also I have only seen a hand full of fans complain about the hybrid thing. When I say hand full I mean about 10-20 max which isn't a lot for a show that brought in millions of viewers. Yeah, but Whitelighters weren't born Whitelighters, they were made into them. (Specifically because they were people who did important good deeds, they earned their power as a way to help future doers of good.) Why should their powers be genetically based from that point on? It makes sense why witches' powers are genetic, since they're born with their powers. I personally think it's kind of ridiculous to argue on the basis of reality anyway when the show has magic, mystical creatures, and dead men getting a new gig and then siring offspring despite being dead (Sam, Leo). I've seen numerous fans complain about the hybrid thing once prompted to think about why it's problematic, and I'm among those fans who never liked it, but everyone has their own viewpoint. Also, a lot of those viewers were fairly casual viewers I'm willing to bet, or even if invested in it not to the point of participating in any Charmed fan community. It's not fair to say ten or twenty people out of millions when this board, which is the only active Charmed community I've found, doesn't even probably have more than ten or twenty people who regularly post on it. That doesn't change that Whitelighters were changed Biologically and that Biology was passed on to their off spring. Whitelighters aren't human or mortal. Also whitelighters aren't ghost. Whitelighters are an entirely new species. I feel like you missed the point about Genetics. It doesn't matter how or who the whitelighters were before it only matters who they where at the time of the conception which would have been genetically changed to being whitelighters. It is like if someone was transformed into a God or demon an then had a child. Biologically that child would still be part Demon or God. It doesn't matter that they were ONCE HUMAN it only matters what they are genetically NOW. Whitelighters weren't human who were given powers but souls that were reconstructed into a new species. The mortal body died while they transcended into a new magical body. Also you pretty much proved my point on the last part. Unless you actually have proof of a lot of people complaining you can't say a lot simply because. Like I said the comments I have seen rather a regular poster or not have yet to exceed 20 different users. Doesn't matter if you feel like there is more unless you can provide actual proof then it would pretty much be you making your opinion everyone's opinion.
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Post by Hexenwerk on Jun 11, 2018 2:20:32 GMT -5
Yeah, but Whitelighters weren't born Whitelighters, they were made into them. (Specifically because they were people who did important good deeds, they earned their power as a way to help future doers of good.) Why should their powers be genetically based from that point on? It makes sense why witches' powers are genetic, since they're born with their powers. I personally think it's kind of ridiculous to argue on the basis of reality anyway when the show has magic, mystical creatures, and dead men getting a new gig and then siring offspring despite being dead (Sam, Leo). I've seen numerous fans complain about the hybrid thing once prompted to think about why it's problematic, and I'm among those fans who never liked it, but everyone has their own viewpoint. Also, a lot of those viewers were fairly casual viewers I'm willing to bet, or even if invested in it not to the point of participating in any Charmed fan community. It's not fair to say ten or twenty people out of millions when this board, which is the only active Charmed community I've found, doesn't even probably have more than ten or twenty people who regularly post on it. That doesn't change that Whitelighters were changed Biologically and that Biology was passed on to their off spring. Whitelighters aren't human or mortal. Also whitelighters aren't ghost. Whitelighters are an entirely new species. I feel like you missed the point about Genetics. It doesn't matter how or who the whitelighters were before it only matters who they where at the time of the conception which would have been genetically changed to being whitelighters. It is like if someone was transformed into a God or demon an then had a child. Biologically that child would still be part Demon or God. It doesn't matter that they were ONCE HUMAN it only matters what they are genetically NOW. Whitelighters weren't human who were given powers but souls that were reconstructed into a new species. The mortal body died while they transcended into a new magical body. Also you pretty much proved my point on the last part. Unless you actually have proof of a lot of people complaining you can't say a lot simply because. Like I said the comments I have seen rather a regular poster or not have yet to exceed 20 different users. Doesn't matter if you feel like there is more unless you can provide actual proof then it would pretty much be you making your opinion everyone's opinion. That's a fair point. I guess I don't really conceive Whitelighters as genetically different from humans because I have a tendency see them as an afterlife existence similar to ghosts, rather than as an actually different species. But was the bolding and all-caps really necessary? It know it may not have been intended that way, but it can come across as demeaning; what it makes me think is that, regardless of what you actually meant, you think that I'm stupid and have to have things broken down into simple, blatant points. After all, it's easy to misinterpret tone over text because we only have our text to represent us in conversation, not body language or the likes. I never said that everyone has to share my opinion, I'm just pointing out that fans who dislike this part of the series do exist and that we're entitled to our opinion. Nobody's opinion on this even actually matters, since the show went its way and has been finished for a long time. I was also bringing up the issue that saying that millions of people didn't feel similarly isn't necessarily accurate, since a bunch of those people aren't involved in any online fan communities pitching in their own opinions, and it's unfair to presume that they exist as a monolith either for or against one opinion based on their silence. It's not like any of us are going out in the real world, surveying people to see if they've seen Charmed, and then asking them for their stance on this particular matter.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 12, 2018 3:15:43 GMT -5
That doesn't change that Whitelighters were changed Biologically and that Biology was passed on to their off spring. Whitelighters aren't human or mortal. Also whitelighters aren't ghost. Whitelighters are an entirely new species. I feel like you missed the point about Genetics. It doesn't matter how or who the whitelighters were before it only matters who they where at the time of the conception which would have been genetically changed to being whitelighters. It is like if someone was transformed into a God or demon an then had a child. Biologically that child would still be part Demon or God. It doesn't matter that they were ONCE HUMAN it only matters what they are genetically NOW. Whitelighters weren't human who were given powers but souls that were reconstructed into a new species. The mortal body died while they transcended into a new magical body. Also you pretty much proved my point on the last part. Unless you actually have proof of a lot of people complaining you can't say a lot simply because. Like I said the comments I have seen rather a regular poster or not have yet to exceed 20 different users. Doesn't matter if you feel like there is more unless you can provide actual proof then it would pretty much be you making your opinion everyone's opinion. That's a fair point. I guess I don't really conceive Whitelighters as genetically different from humans because I have a tendency see them as an afterlife existence similar to ghosts, rather than as an actually different species. But was the bolding and all-caps really necessary? It know it may not have been intended that way, but it can come across as demeaning; what it makes me think is that, regardless of what you actually meant, you think that I'm stupid and have to have things broken down into simple, blatant points. After all, it's easy to misinterpret tone over text because we only have our text to represent us in conversation, not body language or the likes. I never said that everyone has to share my opinion, I'm just pointing out that fans who dislike this part of the series do exist and that we're entitled to our opinion. Nobody's opinion on this even actually matters, since the show went its way and has been finished for a long time. I was also bringing up the issue that saying that millions of people didn't feel similarly isn't necessarily accurate, since a bunch of those people aren't involved in any online fan communities pitching in their own opinions, and it's unfair to presume that they exist as a monolith either for or against one opinion based on their silence. It's not like any of us are going out in the real world, surveying people to see if they've seen Charmed, and then asking them for their stance on this particular matter. I don't feel like you are dumb but I do feel like you are missing the point I am trying to convey. I bold the letters because they were the most important part of the conversation. The bold was to put emphasizes on those words. As far as my second point I feel like you totally missed the mark of what I was saying. I am not making an assumption if the evidence is right in front of me. My point was that you can't say 10-20 people is alot when millions of people watches the show. I can find evidence that Millions of people watch the show by looking at ratings and I can also find the evidence of those who didn't like the Witch-whitelighter thing by looking at forums. You can only go off of what you know which is my point not what you think in this case. I can only speak for those who have expressed their dislike for it, nobody else. Also never said you couldn't have an opinion or people couldn't share your opinion. When I bold stuff it has nothing to do with me feeling like someone is stupid but rather me making sure the person is focusing on the key parts of what I am saying. It is like when you highlight stuff in literature to get the key points.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jun 12, 2018 10:35:21 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinions. A good portion of Charmed fans on THIS board feel a certain way about certain topics. That is usually what is meant.
Let's keep the discussion focused on the topic of the thread and not debate how many fans think certain ways.
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Post by magena on Jun 21, 2018 3:23:44 GMT -5
I think that the twins'ld be normal witches without any power or witches with Whitelighter powers or witches with the same Warren power:being monovular twins, they have the same genetic heritage
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 22, 2018 20:57:39 GMT -5
I think that the twins'ld be normal witches without any power or witches with Whitelighter powers or witches with the same Warren power:being monovular twins, they have the same genetic heritage Tam and Kat have Molecular combustion?acceleration and Molecular Immobilization. It is also implied they will inherit the Whitelighter Gene.
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Post by magena on Jun 25, 2018 2:16:37 GMT -5
I do not read the comics,they aren't canon, so all the hypotheses are open
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 25, 2018 2:37:27 GMT -5
I do not read the comics,they aren't canon, so all the hypotheses are open Actually the comics are canon. You might be thinking of the novels which are non canon.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jun 26, 2018 1:21:15 GMT -5
I do not read the comics,they aren't canon, so all the hypotheses are open That's what I thought. They are not canon. How can a comic book and television series be the same. They are both completely different. Not everyone has read or can get hold of the comics too. Now if people wish to say the comics are part of their headcanon. That's perfectly fine.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 26, 2018 7:29:30 GMT -5
I do not read the comics,they aren't canon, so all the hypotheses are open Actually the comics are canon. You might be thinking of the novels which are non canon. No, they're not. Even Paul Ruditis said it's just his own version and others are just as welcomed to their ideas as he is to his. The reason why they're not is because not everyone can get a hold of them, so using them as answers in message boards isn't really fair to the ones who can't. Now they have become fanon (what majority of fans think as compared to what was shown on screen during the TV series, the only things that are canon, no matter how inconsistent Charmed canon is), but that does not make them canon. The proof is there's two sets of comics and the second one has absolutely nothing to do with canon; it's pure alternate universe, which is why it didn't succeed, but using your definition, they should also be canon. But the second set shows Paige as part of the family, Cole not, but no Wyatt. That simply doesn't fit. Granted that in my eyes it's a better alternate universe, leaving those parts of Season Five out, but it's definitely not following canon.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 26, 2018 22:44:37 GMT -5
Actually the comics are canon. You might be thinking of the novels which are non canon. No, they're not. Even Paul Ruditis said it's just his own version and others are just as welcomed to their ideas as he is to his. The reason why they're not is because not everyone can get a hold of them, so using them as answers in message boards isn't really fair to the ones who can't. Now they have become fanon (what majority of fans think as compared to what was shown on screen during the TV series, the only things that are canon, no matter how inconsistent Charmed canon is), but that does not make them canon. The proof is there's two sets of comics and the second one has absolutely nothing to do with canon; it's pure alternate universe, which is why it didn't succeed, but using your definition, they should also be canon. But the second set shows Paige as part of the family, Cole not, but no Wyatt. That simply doesn't fit. Granted that in my eyes it's a better alternate universe, leaving those parts of Season Five out, but it's definitely not following canon. Accessibility has nothing to do with it being Canon or not. The Comics are canon because they follow the continuation of the Story line and they are owned by over seen by the same people who own the rights to Charm. Unless you have a link stating it as non canon the comics are canon. P.S you are using Fanon wrong. Fanon would be things like Wikia's, Fanfiction, Fan artwork, etc. It would be stuff created by fans who have no legal barring on the series. The Comics are canon because before they could be made, the comics had to gain legal rights from those who own Charmed. The comics are legally apart of the Charmed Universe. Also how well something does or the accessibility have no barring on rather it is Canon or not. Also inconsistencies doesn't make something non canon either. Like if I acquired the rights to Charmed and wanted to make Phoebe have 10 children that would be considered Canon rather it was well received or not. Unless stated not canon by the people who own Charmed the series would be considered Canon. Now you could try to argue they are different Canons to the Charmed Universe. Like Show Canon, Comic Canon, book canon, etc. All of these things have been marketed as things connected to the Shows canon or at the very least the Charmed Universe Canon by those who actually own the Legal rights to Charmed. Fans can't decide rather something is canon(Official) or not because they own no legal rights to the series and can't make calls like that.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 27, 2018 5:55:07 GMT -5
All of that might be true, but it still does not count as canon on message boards because it's not polite to others who do not read the comics and wouldn't be able to respond.
So does the new set of comics that ignore Cole and ignore Wyatt mean that fans should in our answers? I don't think so. I know a lot of fans would love to (me included), but that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by Hexenwerk on Jun 27, 2018 15:25:16 GMT -5
I think of comics for shows like Charmed and Buffy as like, different iterations of a franchise, like how a lot of superhero comic series have tons of different universes where the superhero has a different background, identity, powers, etc. The comics still fall under the "Charmed" umbrella, but the show is the focal point of the universe; people who would read the comics and books rely on the show for context, but the show doesn't rely on either of them, and is wrapped up by itself and doesn't need the comics to make it finished. So the comics and books are essentially "take it or leave it" for people and are unlikely to be read by anyone who isn't a fan of the show. Personally as a writer of Charmed fanfiction, there are some details from the comics that I pick at to use in fanfiction, but otherwise I completely disregard them because I don't have access to them in the way that I do with the show, I don't like them nearly as much, and I view them as fun extra material but not really anything that influences how I think about the show.
Not to mention that honestly, as has been pointed out, the comics are just not accessible and a lot of fans aren't going to take them into account when talking about Charmed because of that. With a Netflix account (that I don't even pay for) I can watch Charmed as much as I please, but I don't have the kind of money to spend on comics, I'm not likely to find them in stores (and I don't live anywhere near the kind of stores that would sell them), and I don't buy anything online. I don't think there's anything wrong with using the comics to make a point because they are part of the Charmed universe, but they're not central to knowing the Charmed universe in the same way as the show is, and not everybody is going to have read them and be able to make or willing to accept arguments wherein they feature.
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