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Post by summerreading on Aug 28, 2018 2:16:41 GMT -5
Welcome to the Season 5 Brainstorming Thread, here you'll find everything to do with our fifth and possible last season of 'Elemental Charmed' by Team Charmed Cafe!
Over the next few days, I or other members will work on migrating all the posts that have to do with Season 5 into this thread.
Brainstorm, discuss Season 5, create new press releases, plot stories and everything else relating to Season 5?
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Post by summerreading on Aug 28, 2018 2:21:49 GMT -5
Still working on my update - it will take a while and I might not post it til tomorrow - but had to reply to this. Here's an interesting idea - perhaps in our series finale (and let's not make Classic Charmed's mistake and have it go for too long - no more than four, preferably three, seasons, especially since we're doing episodes and not just season summaries like I do with my Dream Charmeds.) we *do* have Patience and Prudence die, with Paige, Piper and Phoebe left to star in their ow series - a series that can move back to The CW! It probably means we'd have to change the ages on those three so that when our series ends, they're still in their 20's/30's (this would especially make Paige quite a bit younger, but putting Peyton closer to Piper's age), which The CW would want. Although there's a stranger idea - perhaps in the series finale, Peyton saves an innocent in order to let her own mother die which turns her from a warlock back into a witch, and the spin-off can be Peyton, Piper and Phoebe - then the older three can keep the same ages they are now, with Peyton perhaps being closer in age to Piper. And since in our set-up, this triangle of power (as compared to the pentagon of power) doesn't have to be sisters, one of them being cousins (and not a half...) would work. What does anyone think about that? When planning a story, I always like to figure out my beginning and my ending (and I usually do that by starting in the middle and then first working backwards to a start and then going forwards to an ending), so figuring out our ending (especially because we don't have to worry about Real Life (actors/actresses leaving...) messing with our plans!) is important, too, and I like the idea of our series doing what Classic Chamed should've done - only go four seasons and then begin the spin-off with some of their future kids. Had they done that and that spin-off became something like "Supernatural", we wouldn't have to be worrying about the ripoff! Okay, back to the updating! I do like the idea of Peyton turning back into a witch after saving an innocent. I actually have a few ideas I've come up with over the weekend. And it might actually tie in well here. I haven't put them into a press release yet since what I came up with would become part of the final season. Although, I'm not sure how many seasons were doing. Three or Four. We'll have a clear picture soon, but I'd love to have an idea soon. Again these are so rough ideas, that I just wanted to share, maybe someone can word it better, or further develop it, and put them into press releases. And here's the press releases to go with it: Feel free to edit, cut or change. I know I've jumped fairly ahead. But I just had these ideas in my mind, I had to write them down. Also, we haven't got any of the sisters in relationships, or co-stars. I really hope, we let our five women be the stars of Season One, and add no more than two because I don't think we want the cast too big for Season Two or Three. I'm with Es on this one. I myself thought about a Nexus or the Hollow, but in the end, I felt like we could do more just with our Witches and Warlocks mythology instead. But Summer, If you have ideas on it, I'll still love to see them. What I was going for, was all five powers are needed to access it. But then I couldn't myself figure out anything beyond that idea. Maybe, I'll sit on it until I can find something that works. I really do love these. We could even incorporate the novel 'Whispers From the Past' into the story somehow. If possible, I always liked that one.
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Post by summerreading on Aug 29, 2018 0:47:46 GMT -5
Hope you don't mind Es, I've moved your reply to these here, and also since people like the idea of five seasons and 100 episodes. I do like the idea of Peyton turning back into a witch after saving an innocent. I actually have a few ideas I've come up with over the weekend. And it might actually tie in well here. I haven't put them into a press release yet since what I came up with would become part of the final season. Although, I'm not sure how many seasons were doing. Three or Four. We'll have a clear picture soon, but I'd love to have an idea soon. Again these are so rough ideas, that I just wanted to share, maybe someone can word it better, or further develop it, and put them into press releases. You've definitely piqued my interest. Just making sure I understand what you're saying. By "second last season" do you mean the next-to-the-last season? Otherwise I love your idea of Peyton being a shape-shifter, especially because it means 8-year-old Peyton can now look like an adult. Or *is* she still 8? Has something happened so she's now an adult? Personally I like the idea of our Big Bad ending up being an 8-year-old who throws baby tantrums when things don't go her way! Oh, yes, I can definitely see this happening. Okay, wait a minute. So when Paige becomes a warlock, that's our next-to-the-last season cliffhanger? If so, it's a great one, I just want to be sure that that's what you have in mind. And this is a wonderful way to start the final season with the emphasis on our family and not another witch who isn't a Warren and who wants to take over the show! OH! Wouldn't that be wonderful if the innocent Paige saves is a child the same age as Peyton was when she died? I can see how something like that would get through to her. WOW! I hope someone figures this out, because it's FANTASTIC! Totally completely love it - and this is definitely the reason why it's Prudence who should die, since as you said, she'd be able to use her element and the spirit board to communicate with her family. YAY! I'm really thinking that we should do this as Season 5, rather than Season 4, because I don't think we want to stretch this particular episode for too long, like Charmed did in S8 (make it only a half-season it would've been tolerable.) and I love the idea of having our last episode be its 100th episode. But as always, that's up to the majority. I really like the idea of Julian being part of the final season premiere. Oh, that's a fantastic role for Julian - but I hope we're imagining him looking like he did in his Charmed days and not the way he looks now - he has *not* aged well! Although now that I think about it, maybe that would be better... Now do you plan on him being a recurring guest star or just a one-time. As usual, I'd prefer one-time, but with it being the last season, I can see how you might decide otherwise. Did you check this date on a calendar? And I'm assuming our series will be on CBS rather than The CW for all seasons but the first one. So I see Julian is going to be a recurring guest star. Just as long as he's not part of every episode which means he's now a co-star rather than just a recurring guest star, I guess that's okay. But starting the Witch Hunts - oh, yeah, LOVE that for our last season! Oops! Are you just going to use that date as a placeholder? How 'bout for now we just use "TBD" - "To Be Determined" when we're not sure? And again I'll change that to CBS-TV. Okay, you skipped from Episode 2 to Episode 4. Was that on purpose? What did you want to have happen between these two or aren't you sure? Glad that you also don't count family as innocents! LOVE this! As always, not nuts on the idea of a boyfriend who would probably become a co-star, but I'm going to guess that by Season Four or Five we're going to have to. I'll be curious to see who we end up casting for him. And *sigh*, yes, if he can be a co-star, so can Julian, even though he's not in this episode. But don't really like them hogging into Patience and Paige's special episode. It's like Prue Halliwell starring in Piper Halliwell's wedding. This should really be part of the next episode. So is October 31, 2021 really a Sunday? If we end up doing 5 seasons and this is part of Season Four, I'd love to see it as a real Halloween episode which this isn't. Don't get me wrong - I love this, just not as a Halloween episode. No, no, no! We need a full episode for Paige becoming a witch again, since she didn't do that in the previous one. And we need more than one with her as a warlock. And that's it? Nothing about the trial? I *really* think we need more information regarding how Paige turns back into a witch and Piper's trial, with each a separate episode. I particularly want to find out if Julian's character is a witch-hunter, a warlock or what. Hopefully Paige does get a chance to save her later on. It's strange, but this is my favorite part of this entire episode! Thinking about it, I don't think I'm going to do any editing right now because I feel it needs a little more work and usually once I edit something, it remains that way. This is an absolutely fantastically wonderful start, SR - I just feel like it needs more. And if anyone else wants to do something else with it, go for it! That's what I'm also concerned with. I'd love to do it Connie-style, letting each of our stars have a significant other, but only for one season - no great Piper/Leo or Phoebe/Cole stories that last more than one season and puts all the attention on those characters, making the other characters just co-stars - save those stories for the rip-off, since we all know that that's going to end up being more important than the sisters who happen to be witches - The CW just can't help it. It's part of why we moved ours to CBS-TV. Now if we're going to end up with Piper with someone, if we want to introduce her future boyfriend in an S2 episode (maybe as an innocent she saves), then in S3, she finds he's lost his job, so she gives him one at her restaurant, then in S4 they start dating, ending with what SR has done for S5, with him never becoming anything but a recurring guest star until S5, that to me would be perfect, especially if we don't see their wedding until Prudence's premonitions during the finale episode. But, as always, if the majority wants a great love story, I'll bow to the majority. Along those lines, if we want to show that either Piper or Phoebe (or even Paige - maybe the real reason she's never had a boyfriend beyond Sam...) are lesbians, that's fine with me, too, as long as we don't get preachy about it. No need to do a press release announcing "PAIGE IS A MILITANT LESBIAN" like the rip-off, just announce who's playing her girlfriend and leave it at that. And if we cast any of our characters with a non-white character (outside of the Warrens, of course), that's fine, too. I'd like to see Phoebe have a lot of college boyfriends who can be innocents or warlocks or witches but who are never part of more than a single episode. BUT I'd like her to know that sex does NOT equal love, so she never jumps into bed with any of them...having seen what happened with Paige and Sam and Peyton, she's saving herself for the right guy, who she never meets. Perhaps we can do that in our series finale - let Prudence have a premonition showing Phoebe and her husband and her kids, but not until then. But again, as always, that's just what I'd like to see, and being 65, I know how my ideas can be different than others, so if the majority disagree, that would be fine with me. By the way, if Julian gets more than one episode, we HAVE to figure a way to bring back Mary Ann and Jenna (Shannen and Alyssa). I'd love to figure a way to let them be part of each season the way Grams was, but only ONE episode per season, so since they're part of the Season One finale and the Season Two premiere, those would be their only appearances in Season One and Two. Actually I'd love to have an episode that shows that Peyton is the reincarnation of Jenna and Paige is the reincarnation of Mary Ann...so if we "fix" Peyton, we also "fix" Jenna. But again that's up to the majority.
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Post by summerreading on Aug 29, 2018 1:25:18 GMT -5
I do like the idea of Peyton turning back into a witch after saving an innocent. I actually have a few ideas I've come up with over the weekend. And it might actually tie in well here. I haven't put them into a press release yet since what I came up with would become part of the final season. Although, I'm not sure how many seasons were doing. Three or Four. We'll have a clear picture soon, but I'd love to have an idea soon. Again these are so rough ideas, that I just wanted to share, maybe someone can word it better, or further develop it, and put them into press releases. You've definitely piqued my interest. That would be Season 4's season finale entering Season 5. (I'll update my press releases) since most here really love the idea of five seasons and 100 episodes. I also propose, Peyton, to make her first appearance in the season 3 finale, then maybe we can play who is she for the first half of Season Four. But 1.5 seasons with Peyton as the big bad, I like. I never thought about that, but it would be very hilarious to have her throw baby tantrums. Maybe something did happen to her to make her now an adult, maybe she is* brought back in the body of someone, much like Prue did with Patience in the comics. Anyone else have any idea's. But the thought of an 8-year-old Peyton looking like an adult really does feel a little scary to think what a child could do. I really felt it would make a great cliffhanger entering our final season. Yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. Sorry, I guess now that we clearly know most want a fifth season as our last. That would be the season 4 finale, leading into season 5 our final season. I really love this much better than having someone else take over the show. Maybe we don't even need to add any other co-stars or regulars. I know most shows that have only two or three leads, never added anyone to the cast, unless they were replacing someone. Maybe we just never add any co-stars, and they remain recurring. But because this is a virtual series, we don't need to worry about actors leaving our project to find other roles. Which sometimes happens with shows, they upgrade them to regular just to keep them attached to the show as the top priority. But if, others do want a couple of co-stars after Season One, I'll do what the majority want. Me too, I really love this idea so very much. I hope others feel the same way. Me too, I really hope we can do something like this. Again, since we have a good idea of how many seasons, I or someone else can adjust our now final season press releases better. And because we're not going to overdo death. Killing Prudence really adds to the story. Unlike Kill Bille. Vol 2, since we knew Piper would save Paige and Phoebe. I just think this makes the perfect final cliffhanger of the series leading into the very last episode. Me too. I really am glad the majority of people so far, really support this. So I think this is perfect. Because it means, I'll be able to adjust press releases and tidy up the ones I did, or someone else can suggest something. Also because this is Season Five, the air-dates will be changed a year, so the Halloween episode on October 31st is now Season Four. I was trying to find a way to work him into the story. I didn't think about that, I guess he would need so much make-up, we can pretend we have a big budget which allows CGI. We can dream. I planned him to have a short recurring guest role for just three episodes, four tops, I don't think he should be in the whole season. But I can easily adjust it, if people disagree. Now that this is part of Season Five, dates will need changing. Oops my bad, I copied a press release from Season One and forgot to cut out The CW. LOL Yep, I don't want him to have too much of a role. Nothing more than three episodes. Me too. Now that we are aiming for a half season, most of these ideas can be adjusted with the press releases. TBD would be better now. Seeing as now these dates are for a fifth season not a fourth. Not on purpose, I didn't have any ideas for episode three. It would have been just a standalone. So I think that the sisters save an innocent in that one. Was coming up with a demon, and loved this idea. Again our demons are only one-episode characters. That's what I think we'll have to do by this point. Again, I didn't even have a name or backstory, but just thought about something. I agree this might be better for the next episode, or even our third, with that being Piper's story while the other sisters save an innocent in the standalone story. Now that is the perfect spot for Season Four. Reading it over, I really agree with you now Es. This really should be a full episode, we can now shift the episodes over. Sorry Es, I didn't think more than that. But that will need to be done. Now that I know we have just 12 episodes, we'll have a good idea of what were working with. In my mind, I had Julian as a witch-hunter. But I didn't think more than that. Me too! I can understand. I wasn't thrilled about the episode. Again, maybe I'll just ditch all the plots concering Piper and her boyfriend, since we haven't planned who he is, a face, a job or anything. Best to leave him out of press releases, and slot him in when needed later. I agree, it does need a little more work. Now that I know we're aiming for 12 episodes, I'll have a better idea or others who do press releases, to get it sorted. I really do like this suggestion. Maybe we just have no co-stars, and make them recurring guest stars. Let our ladies be the only leads. Some shows do just stick to their three, four or five leads with nobody added. SR (Summer) Reply: I like this idea. I feel we shouldn't have anyone introduced as early as Season 1 or 2. SR (Summer) Reply: What does everyone else think? SR (Summer) Reply: Not at all, you really have some interesting suggestions. What does everyone else think? Maybe we should do a poll on love interests and or co-stars, and see what everyone thinks. [/quote]I really would love us to use gthem at least once a season. That would be so special. I'd really love to find a way for them to interct with Julian. What another neat idea idea Es!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2018 4:55:06 GMT -5
I do like the idea of Peyton turning back into a witch after saving an innocent. I actually have a few ideas I've come up with over the weekend. And it might actually tie in well here. I haven't put them into a press release yet since what I came up with would become part of the final season. Although, I'm not sure how many seasons were doing. Three or Four. We'll have a clear picture soon, but I'd love to have an idea soon. Again these are so rough ideas, that I just wanted to share, maybe someone can word it better, or further develop it, and put them into press releases. And here's the press releases to go with it: Feel free to edit, cut or change. I know I've jumped fairly ahead. But I just had these ideas in my mind, I had to write them down. Also, we haven't got any of the sisters in relationships, or co-stars. I really hope, we let our five women be the stars of Season One, and add no more than two because I don't think we want the cast too big for Season Two or Three. What I was going for, was all five powers are needed to access it. But then I couldn't myself figure out anything beyond that idea. Maybe, I'll sit on it until I can find something that works. I really do love these. We could even incorporate the novel 'Whispers From the Past' into the story somehow. If possible, I always liked that one. Because SummerReading quoted quotes, when I quoted her, all of her press releases went away, so I'm going to copy those here. To prevent this, let's say that SR is quoting me who quoted Pheebs' post which included some quoted press releases. If I just quoted Pheebs' full post, when SR quotes me quoting Pheebs, only Pheebs' first press release would remain, the rest would go away. But if I edited my post by adding an extra [/quote] after Pheebs' first press release's [/quote], then I'm only quoting Pheebs' first press release, not all of them, and when SR quotes me, all of Pheebs' press release will stay put. I hope that made sense! I'm going to put the things that SR's quoted in a separate post so they're easier to copy. Just remember that if you quote me to include that second [/quote].
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2018 5:44:24 GMT -5
NOTE FROM ES: If anyone quotes this, be sure to take out the [*quote timestamp] bit at the top (I added an asterisk so it would stay put and not try to quote anything) or all of the press releases will go away. Also, the rest of this post is SummerReading's, just slightly edited by me. Still working on my update - it will take a while and I might not post it til tomorrow - but had to reply to this. Here's an interesting idea - perhaps in our series finale (and let's not make Classic Charmed's mistake and have it go for too long - no more than four, preferably three, seasons, especially since we're doing episodes and not just season summaries like I do with my Dream Charmeds.) we *do* have Patience and Prudence die, with Paige, Piper and Phoebe left to star in their ow series - a series that can move back to The CW! It probably means we'd have to change the ages on those three so that when our series ends, they're still in their 20's/30's (this would especially make Paige quite a bit younger, but putting Peyton closer to Piper's age), which The CW would want. Although there's a stranger idea - perhaps in the series finale, Peyton saves an innocent in order to let her own mother die which turns her from a warlock back into a witch, and the spin-off can be Peyton, Piper and Phoebe - then the older three can keep the same ages they are now, with Peyton perhaps being closer in age to Piper. And since in our set-up, this triangle of power (as compared to the pentagon of power) doesn't have to be sisters, one of them being cousins (and not a half...) would work. What does anyone think about that? When planning a story, I always like to figure out my beginning and my ending (and I usually do that by starting in the middle and then first working backwards to a start and then going forwards to an ending), so figuring out our ending (especially because we don't have to worry about Real Life (actors/actresses leaving...) messing with our plans!) is important, too, and I like the idea of our series doing what Classic Chamed should've done - only go four seasons and then begin the spin-off with some of their future kids. Had they done that and that spin-off became something like "Supernatural", we wouldn't have to be worrying about the ripoff! Okay, back to the updating! I do like the idea of Peyton turning back into a witch after saving an innocent. I actually have a few ideas I've come up with over the weekend. And it might actually tie in well here. I haven't put them into a press release yet since what I came up with would become part of the final season. Although, I'm not sure how many seasons were doing. Three or Four. We'll have a clear picture soon, but I'd love to have an idea soon. Again these are so rough ideas, that I just wanted to share, maybe someone can word it better, or further develop it, and put them into press releases. And here's the press releases to go with it: Feel free to edit, cut or change. I know I've jumped fairly ahead. But I just had these ideas in my mind, I had to write them down.
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Post by pheebs on Aug 29, 2018 10:37:58 GMT -5
I've done some editing with this everyone. What do you think? I also took on-board many of the suggestions members made here. Feel free to change them back Summer or if you had other idea's, or if anyone else has any other suggestions and wants to edit, go for it!
Feel free to edit, change back, or add?
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2018 12:10:48 GMT -5
I've done some editing with this everyone. What do you think? I also took on-board many of the suggestions members made here. Feel free to change them back Summer or if you had other idea's, or if anyone else has any other suggestions and wants to edit, go for it! Absolutely fantastically wonderful job, Pheebs - much more of what I was hoping for. Here's my edits: You'll notice I changed the dates. Classic Charmed's Season Five actually started on Sunday, September 29, 2002, leading up to Episode #100 ('Centennial Charmed'), so I thought it would be fun to follow those dates for our last season. If anyone doesn't like that idea, feel free to use SR's and Pheebs' posts to change them back. TRULY fantastic job, both SR and Pheebs - SR for coming up with the basic idea and SR editing it into episodes that will cover a half-season! So proud of both of you! If anyone wants to take a swing at the missing episodes - go for it! But I'm so happy - we know where we've started and we know where we're going to end! All we have to do is fill in the middle!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2018 18:51:05 GMT -5
So?? What do you guys think? If you like it, I'll add it to my next page's edit.
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Post by marlenewicca on Aug 29, 2018 20:51:54 GMT -5
Great work everyone. I love these. So glad we have S5 sorted out. Just need the missing episodes.
Can I say how very much I like the titles of the episodes. And I'm so impressed with the effort in making them creative and or a fun pun.
Mothers and Daughters might be our final Innocent saving and or standalone. Since I'm assuming the last four make up our final arc. But I'm sure they will have Innocents until the very last episode but not part of the major stories of an episode.
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Post by pheebs on Aug 31, 2018 3:15:54 GMT -5
I've done some editing with this everyone. What do you think? I also took on-board many of the suggestions members made here. Feel free to change them back Summer or if you had other idea's, or if anyone else has any other suggestions and wants to edit, go for it! Absolutely fantastically wonderful job, Pheebs - much more of what I was hoping for. Here's my edits: You'll notice I changed the dates. Classic Charmed's Season Five actually started on Sunday, September 29, 2002, leading up to Episode #100 ('Centennial Charmed'), so I thought it would be fun to follow those dates for our last season. If anyone doesn't like that idea, feel free to use SR's and Pheebs' posts to change them back. That's fine. I actually like this suggestion. That does feel neat to do it like Classic Charmed's fifth season. Thank you very much, Es. I'm very proud of myself, and to everyone. We're all doing so well here. I'm so glad we have the last season covered, just need the missing episodes now.
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Post by summerreading on Sept 1, 2018 23:47:29 GMT -5
I've done some editing with this everyone. What do you think? I also took on-board many of the suggestions members made here. Feel free to change them back Summer or if you had other idea's, or if anyone else has any other suggestions and wants to edit, go for it! Absolutely fantastically wonderful job, Pheebs - much more of what I was hoping for. Here's my edits: You'll notice I changed the dates. Classic Charmed's Season Five actually started on Sunday, September 29, 2002, leading up to Episode #100 ('Centennial Charmed'), so I thought it would be fun to follow those dates for our last season. If anyone doesn't like that idea, feel free to use SR's and Pheebs' posts to change them back. Pheebs, has done a very wonderful job, hasn't she. I really am impressed. Thanks. I'm so proud of what we have achieved, and so very proud of Pheebs for taking my basic idea's and editing them into episodes. Well done, Team Charmed Cafe! Now we have a excellent idea of where out final season is heading.
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 2, 2018 17:05:49 GMT -5
A great job at crafting the final season story arc. Can't wait for the last episodes.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 3, 2018 13:48:53 GMT -5
A great job at crafting the final season story arc. Can't wait for the last episodes. Me, too! I have a suggestion for the title of our series finale. The way Classic Charmed used 'Something Wicca This Way Comes' as their series premiere and used 'Something Wicca This Way Goes' as what could've (and what I think *should've* been the series finale), well, the way our series premiere is 'House of the Rising Warrens', why not have our finale be titled 'House of the Setting Warrens'? Earlier we had Prudence not wanting to tell her family that she has some sort of health problem (my first thought was a bad heart, but since that's too much like Grams, I'm not sure it's a good idea), well, I can see her dying to save her family, which also appears to be ending the Elemental Witches, but then we find that thanks to her power of Spirit, she can appear to them as a ghost and can continue to help them out in the spin-off. For that matter, that's something that could happen as a cliffhanger for the end of Season Two or Season Three with Prudence just as a ghost in the latter seasons. Another possibility for the finale is to have something happen to the three older Warrens, just leaving Piper and Phoebe and possibly Peyton, if we set it up so they save her, just setting those three as the new Elemental Witches in the spin-off: 'Elemental Charmed - the Next Generation'. It means there's only three, not five, but perhaps the older ones can pass theirs to the younger one, leaving (perhaps) Peyton with both Water and Spirit, Piper with both Fire and Air and Phoebe with both Water and Earth. The funny part about this spin-off is it sounds like a perfect series for The CW, so it could move back. So many possibilities - and the possible spin-off means even when we finish with Elemental Charmed, we're not done with our project. Just hopefully we don't start playing with our spin-off until we're done with our original show. What do you guys think?
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Post by pheebs on Sept 3, 2018 16:21:06 GMT -5
Love bookending it with House of the Setting Warrens.
As for Prudence having health problems. Maybe not a bad heart. But her sacrificing herself to save her family - I like.
I do like that as our spinoff. Something to work on once EC is done. One The CW would love.
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 5, 2018 19:30:14 GMT -5
A great job at crafting the final season story arc. Can't wait for the last episodes. Me, too! I have a suggestion for the title of our series finale. The way Classic Charmed used 'Something Wicca This Way Comes' as their series premiere and used 'Something Wicca This Way Goes' as what could've (and what I think *should've* been the series finale), well, the way our series premiere is 'House of the Rising Warrens', why not have our finale be titled 'House of the Setting Warrens'? Earlier we had Prudence not wanting to tell her family that she has some sort of health problem (my first thought was a bad heart, but since that's too much like Grams, I'm not sure it's a good idea), well, I can see her dying to save her family, which also appears to be ending the Elemental Witches, but then we find that thanks to her power of Spirit, she can appear to them as a ghost and can continue to help them out in the spin-off. For that matter, that's something that could happen as a cliffhanger for the end of Season Two or Season Three with Prudence just as a ghost in the latter seasons. Another possibility for the finale is to have something happen to the three older Warrens, just leaving Piper and Phoebe and possibly Peyton, if we set it up so they save her, just setting those three as the new Elemental Witches in the spin-off: 'Elemental Charmed - the Next Generation'. It means there's only three, not five, but perhaps the older ones can pass theirs to the younger one, leaving (perhaps) Peyton with both Water and Spirit, Piper with both Fire and Air and Phoebe with both Water and Earth. The funny part about this spin-off is it sounds like a perfect series for The CW, so it could move back. So many possibilities - and the possible spin-off means even when we finish with Elemental Charmed, we're not done with our project. Just hopefully we don't start playing with our spin-off until we're done with our original show. What do you guys think? I like these suggestions Es. Perhaps her health problems meand Prudence is more motivated to do the saving for her family.
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