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Post by hollowbox on Oct 19, 2018 21:50:06 GMT -5
So in the reboot pilot episode, we catch a brief glimpse of the Melinda Warren page in the new sisters' Book of Shadows. This explicitly ties the reboot to the original series, IMO. Is it possible there's another branch of Melinda Warren's descendants that the prophecy might apply other than the Haliwells to become the Charmed Ones?
I wonder if this reboot is similar to what happened to Star Trek, where an alternative timeline was created that made the established history from the original run different from the new reboot.
At the end of the episode, the whightlighter (sorry, I don't remember what their names were) told the new sisters that if they refuse to be the Charmed Ones, they would lose their powers and have no memory of being witches. Though it was odd that he told them that during their battle with that ice demon, they accepted their mystical destiny. This very much reminded me of Witch Way Now, where the Angel of Destiny offered the Haliwells (and Paige) a chance of a normal life without powers or demons.
What if this new whitelighter (where it's hinted he might not be what he seems at the end of the pilot) went back in time to the events of Witch Way Now, and arrange things so that Piper and Phoebe accepts the Angel's offer (the Angel did say the Book will pass to a new generation)? The original Charmed Ones ceased to be until this new Power of Three (again, I haven't gotten their names straight yet).
Anyways, there may be other ways the original timeline may have changed in this new reboot.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 19, 2018 22:07:57 GMT -5
No, I've read press releases that says that picture was just an Easter Egg for Classic Charmed fans. There is NO connection between Veras and the Halliwells. It's an alternate universe where the Halliwells don't exist. And since Melinda definitely wasn't Latina, no, definitely no connection.
Also - no way Tyler Layton would appear - she'd have to look identical to what she did back then and that was 20 years ago. And she quit TV to act on the stage shortly after that episode was filmed - hence why they never did bring her back, much as I wished they would.
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Post by hollowbox on Oct 20, 2018 15:22:48 GMT -5
I understand the reboot is supposed to be a reimagining of Charmed. And I understand Easter eggs are supposed to be indirect or semi-hidden referrals to other shows or movies, in this case the original Charmed. So when the middle sister tries to trigger the freezing power with exaggerated hand gestures, we are reminded this is how Piper does freezes and this would be an Easter egg. But when Melinda Warren is explicitly shown like this, I can't help but think that there is a connection to the original Charmed, especially since apparently the big bad for the new trio is the Source.
I also can't help thinking that Harry the new whitelighter might have done something 20 years ago to alter the timeline from the original Charmed to bring us to this new series. It is shown that he has no qualms altering memories whereas Leo would be squeamish about it. Maybe Harry arranged things so that Phoebe never returned from New York so that the Halliwells never had a chance to become the charmed ones. Without Phoebe around, Prue and Piper went on to have normal lives..maybe Prue marries Andy; hopefully Piper breaks off with Jeremy and gets together with Mark Chang; Phoebe stays in New York and becomes a best selling author thanks to Harry's machinations. And Paige never meets her sisters and finds out about her mystical background. The Warren prophecy was put off for another 20 years.
Also, it is entirely possible Melinda can have Latina descendants. There's a lot of integration between Anglo and Hispanic cultures in the western US for the past 200 years. (My father is Mexican, but I have Irish ancestors on my mother's side).
But you are probably right that this reboot is a completely different universe from the original, with a different Melinda and different Source apparently. I definitely would like to understand what role Meldina plays in the reboot. After all, she is in the Book of Shadows in this universe.
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Post by charmedagain4 on Oct 20, 2018 16:40:14 GMT -5
So in the reboot pilot episode, we catch a brief glimpse of the Melinda Warren page in the new sisters' Book of Shadows. This explicitly ties the reboot to the original series, IMO. Is it possible there's another branch of Melinda Warren's descendants that the prophecy might apply other than the Haliwells to become the Charmed Ones? I wonder if this reboot is similar to what happened to Star Trek, where an alternative timeline was created that made the established history from the original run different from the new reboot. At the end of the episode, the whightlighter (sorry, I don't remember what their names were) told the new sisters that if they refuse to be the Charmed Ones, they would lose their powers and have no memory of being witches. Though it was odd that he told them that during their battle with that ice demon, they accepted their mystical destiny. This very much reminded me of Witch Way Now, where the Angel of Destiny offered the Haliwells (and Paige) a chance of a normal life without powers or demons. What if this new whitelighter (where it's hinted he might not be what he seems at the end of the pilot) went back in time to the events of Witch Way Now, and arrange things so that Piper and Phoebe accepts the Angel's offer (the Angel did say the Book will pass to a new generation)? The original Charmed Ones ceased to be until this new Power of Three (again, I haven't gotten their names straight yet). Anyways, there may be other ways the original timeline may have changed in this new reboot. This is a great theory and honestly, I'd love for it to be true! It'd make Season 5-8 a completely different timeline and therefore non-canon. S1-S4 were the glory seasons and it's like as soon as S5 starts, there's a big change in tone, characterization, and pacing of the show. Harry going back in time and having them accept the Angel of Destiny's offer would be pretty neat. Although, I also like the possibility you said where Harry could've somehow prevented Phoebe from returning home, thus changing the timeline where the Halliwell's aren't the CO's. It could even be plausible that he prevented Grams or Patty's deaths. Patty never dying would've changed a lot as most of the CO's personalities come from Patty dying so young. Prue would likely have a husband and kids (hopefully with Andy) along with her photography career since she wouldn't have to give up so much of her life to be a mother figure to her sisters. Phoebe would've been less rebellious as part of the reason she was so wild was because her mom wasn't in her life. Piper would've likely had more confidence in herself and gain the courage to pursue her dreams early on, plus Patty would be able to take care of Grams when she gets sick. The possibilities are endless and honestly, it would be great if the reboot did something similar to this.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 20, 2018 19:07:14 GMT -5
If this happens, I'll admit I was wrong and misled by what I read.
But I truly don't think there will ever be any direct connection between the Halliwells and the NuHalliwells.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Oct 20, 2018 20:22:20 GMT -5
I think this thread should be moved to the reboot board dear, I found a new article online just now, that relates to this. I'll share it if it is moved, because it might have spoilers.
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Post by pheebs on Oct 20, 2018 23:06:10 GMT -5
I don't think this is going to connect to the original. But, if it does, well I was wrong too.
But, they cannot get the original Melinda actress back. Plus, so much has changed that it cannot be the same especially with powers being different.
Yes, I'm sure this thread will be moved into that board soon. Since no discussions on the reboot outside of that reboot board were allowed I think unless that has changed? But as far as I know, nobody but an admin is allowed to start threads in the reboot forum?
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 21, 2018 7:44:33 GMT -5
I don't think this is going to connect to the original. But, if it does, well I was wrong too. But, they cannot get the original Melinda actress back. Plus, so much has changed that it cannot be the same especially with powers being different. Yes, I'm sure this thread will be moved into that board soon. Since no discussions on the reboot outside of that reboot board were allowed I think unless that has changed? But as far as I know, nobody but an admin is allowed to start threads in the reboot forum? And that might be a good reason to let it continue to have its own board - although that board could become a sub-board of the Other Fandom board. My guess is it will depend upon how many responses the latter episodes receive. |
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Post by West on Oct 21, 2018 22:29:26 GMT -5
This past episode had an interesting remark by Macy. They had a mention of a multiverse, wondering if it is just a little gag, or they are seriously considering setting up another universe where our Classic Charmed world exists.
I doubt it but had to mention this.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 23, 2018 22:50:31 GMT -5
I'm wondering if they mentioned the multiverse not to bring in the Halliwells, but so that the NuHalliwells would be able visit an alternate universe where they could play different roles.
And the mention of the multiverse could also be another Easter Egg.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 7:24:33 GMT -5
I think they are leaving it open-ended in case they want to write in a connection to the Warrens/Halliwells. Sarah (who plays Maggie) hinted as much when asked by some journo at a recent event. She was pretty vague but said the writers want to use as many connections to CC’s mythology as they can.
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Post by ryang on Feb 14, 2019 17:25:19 GMT -5
To have another set of "Charmed Ones" descended from Melinda Warren would have made much more sense in Season 8 of OG Charmed when they introduced super powerful Billie and Christie, with multiple Charmed-ish powers who could battle the Charmed Ones on equal footing.
Compared to the original, we are missing a lot of family history mythology that was so much fun. I'd love a "Witch is Back" type episode in this show. In addition to something about a Grams, etc.
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Feb 14, 2019 21:55:46 GMT -5
To have another set of "Charmed Ones" descended from Melinda Warren would have made much more sense in Season 8 of OG Charmed when they introduced super powerful Billie and Christie, with multiple Charmed-ish powers who could battle the Charmed Ones on equal footing. Compared to the original, we are missing a lot of family history mythology that was so much fun. I'd love a "Witch is Back" type episode in this show. In addition to something about a Grams, etc. Yes, that could have been very interesting if they were somehow related to the Halliwells in Classic Charmed, especially if they came from one of the lines of cousins seen in Pardon My Past. I agree, so much rich history to explore, and see. I'd rather see the past more than the future. I know a member here Summer Reading did a great job in showing a little more from Melinda in the past. I know she had planned to work more on doing a combination of Witch is Back/Whispers From the Past (novel), the later that showed Melinda's daughter Prudence. I don't know if she is still working on it or not. |
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