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Post by ozzy on Oct 26, 2018 13:46:35 GMT -5
Well good news for those hoping that Charmed will get picked up for a full 22 episode season. Legacies underperformed last night in the ratings, earning a meagre 0.3 in the crucial 18-34 demographic, placing it well below both episodes of Charmed. Currently, Charmed is the best performing show to debut this season on the network. Legacies and All-American, the only other new shows this fall have been terrible in the ratings. It seems a matter of time before we get a bump in episodes.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 27, 2018 3:17:15 GMT -5
This episode was better than the pilot.
Liked the idea of the Trickster pretending to be Marisol and the sister's being stuck in the room of mirrors.
Did prefer the look of the pilot's demon vanquish than Melonie using her phone and the girls saying the spell which hopefully will get better as the season goes on.
Noticed the different elements of classic Charmed used to like the truth serum thing for instance.
I also appreciate Macy being smart and using her brain to help in the case but kinder been the sceptic like Scully from X Files and the awkwardness going on with the girl's trying to accept the new arrangement.
At least Harry won't be having a relationship with any of the sisters which are good. Though I didn't like them being involved with anyone this early on.
Although the show should be about the girl's it's nice the supporting stars didn't overshadow them.
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Post by pheebs on Oct 27, 2018 7:46:56 GMT -5
This episode was better than the pilot. Liked the idea of the Trickster pretending to be Marisol and the sister's being stuck in the room of mirrors. Did prefer the look of the pilot's demon vanquish than Melonie using her phone and the girls saying the spell which hopefully will get better as the season goes on. Noticed the different elements of classic Charmed used to like the truth serum thing for instance. I also appreciate Macy being smart and using her brain to help in the case but kinder been the sceptic like Scully from X Files and the awkwardness going on with the girl's trying to accept the new arrangement. At least Harry won't be having a relationship with any of the sisters which are good. Though I didn't like them being involved with anyone this early on. Although the show should be about the girl's it's nice the supporting stars didn't overshadow them.I'm glad, and this should continue. The supporting cast are just supposed to support the leads, not overshadow them. Something Classic Charmed got wrong in S3-8, when Leo, Chris and Cole took over. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 11:32:29 GMT -5
That's why the whole "new generation" talk is kinda hilarious to me. They make the original girls sound like 70-somethings, but there's actually a smaller age gap between Melonie and HMC (11 years) than there is between Melonie and Sarah Jeffrey (12 years). And Billie/Kaley is actually a year YOUNGER than Melonie. I agree it is so very odd to me. Like the age differences are not even that massive. I'd hardly say the original stars are old at all. If the X-Files can bring back the stars who are in their 50s, then they are hardly old and dated to go back into the roles. Didn't one of the actresses in the reboot say some comment about the Classic Charmed stars being too old to play? LOL if it was Melonie, I'd find that so funny, especially because she is almost a decade older than any of the Classic stars were when they started Classic Charmed. Melonie will practically be 40 if this show goes for 5 or 6 years. It's so annoying and silly when they make the original girls sound so old. But I gather that's Hollywood for you, I feel the ageism is so very bad. But The CW is typical for wanting young pretty people. I think it might've been one of the producers or writers who made that "too old" comment, but I'm not 100% sure. I think the actresses have been quite diplomatic, to be fair. Although, it annoys me when the reboot is referred to as a "fresh take on the 90s original" as if Classic Charmed is some quaint little period drama. It started in '98 FFS! It was a 2000s show for 6 years after that and only finished 12 years ago. I guess I'm being picky but I just don't like the implication that CC is "old and worn-out".
I know, it's weird that they didn't just cast Mel as the same age as the actress, considering the character acts like the Eldest Sister anyway. The actress does look young, don't get me wrong, but not quite 25 haha!
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Post by Sasha on Oct 30, 2018 15:42:16 GMT -5
I agree it is so very odd to me. Like the age differences are not even that massive. I'd hardly say the original stars are old at all. If the X-Files can bring back the stars who are in their 50s, then they are hardly old and dated to go back into the roles. Didn't one of the actresses in the reboot say some comment about the Classic Charmed stars being too old to play? LOL if it was Melonie, I'd find that so funny, especially because she is almost a decade older than any of the Classic stars were when they started Classic Charmed. Melonie will practically be 40 if this show goes for 5 or 6 years. It's so annoying and silly when they make the original girls sound so old. But I gather that's Hollywood for you, I feel the ageism is so very bad. But The CW is typical for wanting young pretty people. I think it might've been one of the producers or writers who made that "too old" comment, but I'm not 100% sure. I think the actresses have been quite diplomatic, to be fair. Although, it annoys me when the reboot is referred to as a "fresh take on the 90s original" as if Classic Charmed is some quaint little period drama. It started in '98 FFS! It was a 2000s show for 6 years after that and only finished 12 years ago. I guess I'm being picky but I just don't like the implication that CC is "old and worn-out".
I know, it's weird that they didn't just cast Mel as the same age as the actress, considering the character acts like the Eldest Sister anyway. The actress does look young, don't get me wrong, but not quite 25 haha!
It is weird, but this reboot will be dated in a decade too when we move past all the current political era, and Trump is no longer in office. Mel acts like the leader, I've seen comments where people are saying they are making her out to be the strongest of the three. But the actress is like Shannen in S1 billed first in the credits I heard. Obviously shes older and worth more. So I wonder if they are treating Mel as the star. I don't get why CC is always said to be old and worn-out, it was a different time back then. All I see is complaining about diversity in CC, and the fact the stars are of color, and the villains are not black in the reboot. It is like saying The Wizard of Zoo or the Sound of Music is dated for being made so long ago. They are classics, I don't get why people just think something that ages over time, makes it out-dated and old, it was a product of its time and a Classic. CC isn't so ancient, it was only 20 years ago. Everything being rebooted isn't even that dated, we're not talking about some series set in the 50s or 60s. But I'm sure most of the children born in the year 2000 and beyond, will find CC old and worn out, just because it was before their time, and the special effects are old, and the technology in it is old. That stuff really makes my eyes roll. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 3:28:34 GMT -5
I think it might've been one of the producers or writers who made that "too old" comment, but I'm not 100% sure. I think the actresses have been quite diplomatic, to be fair. Although, it annoys me when the reboot is referred to as a "fresh take on the 90s original" as if Classic Charmed is some quaint little period drama. It started in '98 FFS! It was a 2000s show for 6 years after that and only finished 12 years ago. I guess I'm being picky but I just don't like the implication that CC is "old and worn-out".
I know, it's weird that they didn't just cast Mel as the same age as the actress, considering the character acts like the Eldest Sister anyway. The actress does look young, don't get me wrong, but not quite 25 haha!
It is weird, but this reboot will be dated in a decade too when we move past all the current political era, and Trump is no longer in office. Mel acts like the leader, I've seen comments where people are saying they are making her out to be the strongest of the three. But the actress is like Shannen in S1 billed first in the credits I heard. Obviously shes older and worth more. So I wonder if they are treating Mel as the star. I don't get why CC is always said to be old and worn-out, it was a different time back then. All I see is complaining about diversity in CC, and the fact the stars are of color, and the villains are not black in the reboot. It is like saying The Wizard of Zoo or the Sound of Music is dated for being made so long ago. They are classics, I don't get why people just think something that ages over time, makes it out-dated and old, it was a product of its time and a Classic. CC isn't so ancient, it was only 20 years ago. Everything being rebooted isn't even that dated, we're not talking about some series set in the 50s or 60s. But I'm sure most of the children born in the year 2000 and beyond, will find CC old and worn out, just because it was before their time, and the special effects are old, and the technology in it is old. That stuff really makes my eyes roll. Exactly! CC doesn't even come off as dated to me. Beyond the superficial factors - hairstyles, clothes and the special effects, the Halliwells behaved and interacted pretty much exactly how the Veras do. There are shows of the 90s/00s that have aged much worse, such as Sex and the City, whose characters' lives really DID revolve around being affluent, superficiality and pleasing men. I'm all for having more diversity, but it doesn't make the reboot automatically "better" than CC just because the former's main characters were white. To me, that is another superficial thing to focus on - great characters make great shows.
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Post by Sasha on Nov 1, 2018 7:47:49 GMT -5
It is weird, but this reboot will be dated in a decade too when we move past all the current political era, and Trump is no longer in office. Mel acts like the leader, I've seen comments where people are saying they are making her out to be the strongest of the three. But the actress is like Shannen in S1 billed first in the credits I heard. Obviously shes older and worth more. So I wonder if they are treating Mel as the star. I don't get why CC is always said to be old and worn-out, it was a different time back then. All I see is complaining about diversity in CC, and the fact the stars are of color, and the villains are not black in the reboot. It is like saying The Wizard of Zoo or the Sound of Music is dated for being made so long ago. They are classics, I don't get why people just think something that ages over time, makes it out-dated and old, it was a product of its time and a Classic. CC isn't so ancient, it was only 20 years ago. Everything being rebooted isn't even that dated, we're not talking about some series set in the 50s or 60s. But I'm sure most of the children born in the year 2000 and beyond, will find CC old and worn out, just because it was before their time, and the special effects are old, and the technology in it is old. That stuff really makes my eyes roll. Exactly! CC doesn't even come off as dated to me. Beyond the superficial factors - hairstyles, clothes and the special effects, the Halliwells behaved and interacted pretty much exactly how the Veras do. There are shows of the 90s/00s that have aged much worse, such as Sex and the City, whose characters' lives really DID revolve around being affluent, superficiality and pleasing men. I'm all for having more diversity, but it doesn't make the reboot automatically "better" than CC just because the former's main characters were white. To me, that is another superficial thing to focus on - great characters make great shows.
Most certainly true. Great characters make a show and the chemistry between the main characters. That's true diversity doesn't automatically make a show better. The writing and characters or chemistry is key regardless. I'm all for diversity but that shouldn't just be the main draw. So I hope this reboot finds itself with the main stars growing and a true focus on the chemistry between the sisters. Also hope Macy being a virgin is handled with care. It is an asset to tackle a story like that where that is so rare for a main character who is nearly 30 on television these days. |
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Post by Astral Vision on Jan 15, 2019 17:00:38 GMT -5
Okay. Episode two. So much better than the pilot. The pacing was so much better. And you know what else made it better? Not constantly comparing it to the original. I was just able to enjoy it as a piece of supernatural tv.  The sisters are all interesting characters. It's nice to know that Harry can be trusted. And was a tinsy bit obvious once the mum showed up that she wasn't who she said she was. Was also obvious that the thermoses would get mixed up the moment Macy put hers on the table next to the girlfriend's. All in all, a good episode. Will be continuing to watch next week. |
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Post by SimplyAretha on Jan 21, 2019 2:37:55 GMT -5
Charmed Review 1x02
Spirit board or faithful advisor. That seems like a stretch. Both are new to them, and they don't know either well. Macy is being rational, Mel is ready to distrust Harry, Maggie is in the middle? The book of shadows presents a third option, truth serum.
Angela is still in a coma. She was the woman who accused the professor of sexual assault and somehow is in a drug overdose coma. Maggie and the sorority sisters are there to have a group prayer for Angela, and despite the gloves, Maggie is wearing, she hears the sorority girls talking and hears Angela screaming.
Macy is back at work. Does Macy work in the lab where they defeated the ice demon? Intersting. Did she not hear of the trial or that the mom, was the first person to help Angela bring the claim forward? Harry is acting really suspicious. I wouldn't trust him either, but then again I wouldn't have trusted him from the first kidnapping.
I found it funny when Maggie is trying to hook up with her ex-boyfriend, and he's trying to think of other things. Poor Maggie. That has to be the best comedy scene in the show this far, but it's only the second episode.
The sisters are arguing over whether or not the spirit in the spirit board is their mother. Macy seems to be the voice of reason, and she's going to let her sisters know. Mel is the oldest sister, and now Macy is the oldest.
Macy's truth serum gets mixed up with Niko's drink, and now she is telling the truth instead of Harry. And Niko tells Mel that she slept with her ex-fiance. Eek. Well, they were on a break.
So much for this fast sisterhood, Mel and Maggie work fast before Macy comes home to release their mom's spirit from the board. The mom tells them that Harry killed her that he is trying to steal their powers. When Harry figures out what has happened, he tries to stop the spirit, but Mel hits him over the head. It looks like they chose the mom. I mean she does look like their mother, but her cold demeanour makes me suspect she is not their mother.
When Maggie can't hear her mind or feel her, she starts to suspect that her mom isn't her mom. Macy and Mel are struggling for the older sister title, and no one is listening to Maggie. It isn't until the mom tells Mel, who is the only one who is convinced she is their mother, that she should trust herself and that they were the only one with a special bond that she realizes the spirit is not her mom.
The black ooze, Macy found in her lab is the primordial form of the harbinger of hell/source of all evil which is looking for a human vessel. Angela is free apparently.
Overall, this episode had better pacing just enough information to tell a story. Megan Markle or I mean Harry was definitely acting suspect throughout this episode. Who would trust him? And now that we know the spirit was not their mother but a demon pretending to be their mother they trust him again.
You got to know the sisters more this episode. Macy was a headstrong rational person. Mel is a stubborn quick to judge. Maggie the voice of reason even though some might not assume that. It sounds like they inherited their confidence from their mother, although similar they are still unique in their own way.
It still a little surprising that the sisters are acting like they've known each other their whole lives. Maybe it's the danger and shared experience that is throwing them together to build the sisterhood bond faster that would be expected.
Maggie is becoming my favourite sister so far. OG Charmed not coming back has to be more than just the sister being too old. It sounds like they tried over and over again to get the show back with the original cast but for some reason, it was not successful. Most of us know the drama behind the scenes. And if they brought back Brad Kern I would have been so annoyed.
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Post by latincoffee on Apr 8, 2019 12:59:39 GMT -5
This episode had me torn on who not to trust between the witches' mom & Harry.  Now I see. Demons lie. That's what they are masters of. |
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Post by latincoffee on Apr 8, 2019 13:30:22 GMT -5
It all makes sense since all that lives in Ouija boards are evil spirits that can come out as demons.
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Post by Lexi on Apr 20, 2019 19:37:28 GMT -5
Leaving my thoughts on the second episode. I'd guessed that it wasnt really mom in the spirit board and I'm glad the writers played it the way they did. Mel and Maggie were still grieving so it only makes sense that they would want to believe in the Trickster. They hadn't even got to know Harry.
Mel annoyed me to no end in this episode though. I'm still not interested in her character. She just rubs me the wrong way.
With only being two episodes in, I didn't jump to a lot of thoughts that people have here. I notice a few wondering if the lab would always have an ingredients but, seriously, at two episodes in it's not fair on the show to think that. Five episodes or so sure but not two!
The reboot has certainly been held to a higher standard than any other show out there. Many want it to fail and are looking for reasons for it to fail that probably wouldn't have been looked at if it was a completely new show. It's similar to the way women in leadership are held to much higher expectations and a higher standard than men are. But that is off track here.
Over all, I did enjoy the episode more than the pilot. That didn't surprise me. This episode set up a lot for the next few episodes but also kept the characters so very real while their grief was still raw.
I liked that there was tension between the sisters, especially Macy and Maggie. I expected more between Macy and Mel at first so I'm glad the show surprised me in that aspect. And Macy not trusting the spirit board made so much sense since she never knew her mom.
This episode told me there would be a focus on character development.
I get that there are complaints that the sisters fight demons first and protect innocents second but then that is something that made Classic Charmed special. The reboot needs it's own thing so I'm glad it stepped away from the original on this point. It made a point of saying it wasn't going to be completely the same.
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