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Post by Assassin Witch on Feb 16, 2019 22:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by CharmedFaith on Feb 17, 2019 21:42:00 GMT -5
It was an ok episode. Expected more flashbacks to help fill in the gaps cause I couldve sworn we saw them in the promo but really werent in the episode.
"You are a Charmed Ones, find your answers" more like "You are a Charmed One, ask someone for your answers like you've had to do since the series began" As usual, something that the sisters as a unit should be trying to find legitimate answers to, Macy has to deal with this herself. Of course it is ABOUT her but this is the time you need your sisters the most.
I guess I can somewhat appreciate them trying to throw us for a loop with the Necromancer but I think its pretty bad that I was totally on her side in the beginning when it came to the Elders since they SUCK! The witch coming after her didnt help either. I swear everybody has so much cooler powers then TCO do. Who needs demons when you have witches who are willing to kill their fellow witches to exact revenge? The Elders suck way more then I already knew they did if they have their own killing each other. And TCO arent even at the top of the food chain, this woman could take them out in a heartbeat. Of course Macy has to go to Parker to help find Maggie lol. And of course Parker helps them vanquish the Nercromancer who was evil because she cant attack a demon or else she is breaking her pact with...demons.
Macy gets to utilize her TK in another way, literally with her mind. No hands, no eyes, just pure mind just to help drive home that she has darkness inside of her? So what is different between her willing to kill the witch who was willing to kill her and Maggie?
Oh yeah I forgot that Harry is a Professor. How did they even explain his sudden absence when he was in hell? His powers are still on the fritz? Yeah could really care less about Harry's son. Well at least the son storyline didnt last that long and Harry now has closure.
I really wish we had like at least 6 episodes off from the Maggie/Parker drama. But they are already on their way to mending their relationship.
The pajama scene towards the end...now these are the scenes I need! Sure this whole "demons blood, blah blah blah" is fairly week but the thought is there. But then they had ruin it with having everyone go their seperate ways to end the episode. "You take the demon out of me" is just not a sentence that reads that well out loud.
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Post by sav001 on Feb 18, 2019 18:19:53 GMT -5
The Charmed reboot is a total flop in the ratings and is now the lowest rating new show on The CW. They are so lucky they air on The CW, any other channel and they would have been cancelled by now and would never have gotten a second season.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Feb 18, 2019 19:23:13 GMT -5
The Charmed reboot is a total flop in the ratings and is now the lowest rating new show on The CW. They are so lucky they air on The CW, any other channel and they would have been cancelled by now and would never have gotten a second season. Any other network they'd be getting totally different ratings and they arent the lowest rated show on the network.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Feb 19, 2019 7:51:51 GMT -5
I didn't mind this episode though wasn't thrilled to see Parker again.
Hopefully, Maggie doesn't take him back but then people do love drama so you never know what the writers may do actually.
I enjoyed Harry's story and how Mel helped him find Carter which of course had to end the way it did because Harry was dead which would've been weird if he'd walked up to his son and said hello then.
At least he saw Carter was okay and fought out he had great grandkids too extending his family.
I liked how Harry used British terminology when saying certain things like having a pint which rang true with me being British.
In terms of Whitelighters then it would seem their powers can be affected by their emotions in Harry's case at least meaning he can't just be a cosmic taxi service which I enjoyed seeing.
So Macy has demon blood in her like Sam Winchester did explaining her dark side.
I wonder if someone will try and turn her into a demon perhaps which hopefully doesn't happen.
With Niko, perhaps the reason she's a PI or is hesitant towards Jada is through a consequence of the spell Mel cast.
If it's slowly wearing off that could account for the De Ja Vu feeling.
And Lucy evil or being seduced by evil maybe. Didn't see that coming.
Maybe Neo Rex has something on her or she's in a situation where she has no choice but to help him from some reason then.
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Post by sav001 on Feb 19, 2019 11:30:27 GMT -5
The Charmed reboot is a total flop in the ratings and is now the lowest rating new show on The CW. They are so lucky they air on The CW, any other channel and they would have been cancelled by now and would never have gotten a second season. Any other network they'd be getting totally different ratings and they arent the lowest rated show on the network. [br Any other network and they would still get crap ratings because its a crap show. And I said lowest rated new show which they are along with All American. Being above Dynasties and Crazy Ex Girlfriend is nothing to crow about. The low number of comments both here and on their social media pages also shows lack of interest.
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Post by SimplyAretha on Feb 19, 2019 19:04:17 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion that the show is just going to go downhill from here. I don't know if's just the way the promos built up this episode but I figured there would be more - in essence, it failed to deliver. The 'Harry's son storyline' was just a waste of storyline and time. And to be honest, The whole middle sister storyline, I keep forgetting she is even there. I don't even remember her name but I can remember the other two sisters - Macy and Maggie. Why did I think Parker left. I must have gotten confused last episode. The demon father mind controlling the sorority girl seems plausible but again no master evil villain worthiness. The witch with the fireball hands seemed more of a mastermind than the demon. I guess I can somewhat appreciate them trying to throw us for a loop with the Necromancer but I think its pretty bad that I was totally on her side in the beginning when it came to the Elders since they SUCK! The witch coming after her didnt help either. I swear everybody has so much cooler powers then TCO do. Who needs demons when you have witches who are willing to kill their fellow witches to exact revenge? The Elders suck way more then I already knew they did if they have their own killing each other. And TCO arent even at the top of the food chain, this woman could take them out in a heartbeat. Of course Macy has to go to Parker to help find Maggie lol. And of course Parker helps them vanquish the Nercromancer who was evil because she cant attack a demon or else she is breaking her pact with...demons. I think the biggest mistake both OG Charmed and this Reboot did was try to build up the sisters as the most powerful witches of all time. Where do you go from there? Where does the evolution take them? I think they should have focused more of them becoming the most powerful force for their generation. I always thought that about both series. I agree that the witch with the fire handballs seems pretty powerful and she doesn't need her sisters to hold her hand.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 19, 2019 19:14:53 GMT -5
I think the biggest mistake both OG Charmed and this Reboot did was try to build up the sisters as the most powerful witches of all time. Where do you go from there? Where does the evolution take them? I think they should have focused more of them becoming the most powerful force for their generation. I always thought that about both series. I agree that the witch with the fire handballs seems pretty powerful and she doesn't need her sisters to hold her hand. *nods* That makes plenty of sense. But have they said that this set of Charmed Ones are the most powerful witches like the Halliwells were? If they aren't, then they would have that chance to grow to become the most powerful witches ever.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Feb 19, 2019 20:44:55 GMT -5
Any other network they'd be getting totally different ratings and they arent the lowest rated show on the network. [br Any other network and they would still get crap ratings because its a crap show. And I said lowest rated new show which they are along with All American. Being above Dynasties and Crazy Ex Girlfriend is nothing to crow about. The low number of comments both here and on their social media pages also shows lack of interest. They get better ratings then All American and thus are not the lowest rated. Not to mention they are on a brand new night for TheCW which is known to be a very hard night for shows in general. And it was never going to be a hit on this forum. I think the biggest mistake both OG Charmed and this Reboot did was try to build up the sisters as the most powerful witches of all time. Where do you go from there? Where does the evolution take them? I think they should have focused more of them becoming the most powerful force for their generation. I always thought that about both series. I agree that the witch with the fire handballs seems pretty powerful and she doesn't need her sisters to hold her hand. For the most part I can agree with that but the OG also didnt bring in a lot of other witches so it wasnt that big of a glaring issue whereas in the reboot they want this tiny ass town to be running a muck with witches and they are not only very experienced but have very powerful powers. But also another big thing is that they tend to keep the sisters separated A LOT, they dont get together that often to vanquish the demon of the week and we usually only have like 1 or 2 scenes where it is the 3 of them which is just weird.
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Post by ryang on Feb 19, 2019 23:19:44 GMT -5
-The Original Charmed, at this point, had a lot of great stand alone episodes and also a lot of crappy ones. This new version is much more mindful of a season-long story arc. It was great to get some answers in this episode to all of the previous questions. This was probably one of the best so far of the new show... -The "twists" are compelling. Coming from Jane the Virgin producers, I'm unsurprising and pleasantly entertained. Excellent storytellers!
-I do look forward to the Nico/Jada storyline, maybe because it's the freshest? The Lucy and Alistair interaction was good.
-They are definitely doing much more than the original Charmed took 3+ years to achieve. A newbie may think it's too fast, but the OG Charmed was super slow and didn't really know what they wanted to accomplish across episodes. -Loved seeing Macy understand the potential of her power. Personality wise, I think Macy hasn't been as aggressive with the power as Prue was.
-Macy's storyline is very Sam Winchester. I'm OK with that since I never felt that storyline was fully developed, plus secretly wished Sam and Dean were the Wyatt and Chris spin off. More relevant to Charmed, wasn't darkness a running theme with Phoebe (2.14, 2.21, 4.19-4.21, 5.08; I think it was just under-developed) -Relatedly, the OG Charmed was much better at exploring how the powers worked and what the restrictions were. I didn't even notice Mel or Maggie using powers in this episode. -On that note, Maggie should have telepathically communicated with Macy in front of Cyd instead of whispering. That would have been fun. -"From Fear to Eternity" shout-outs: Mel: "I love you!" and " Maggie in the shower.... why was she dry though afterward? -Love Harry. But this episode made me critique the whole British dude as the "guide". -Loved the Necromancer! She was fun. Why not Necromancer with a "K"? -Not sure about the scene in "Kappa Spirit" where Marisol says something is wrong with the baby. I suppose it was a premonition of something. I imagine Maggie will get that power eventually. Given the pace of the new show, I imagine new powers will show up sooner rather than later. -I like seeing their mom from time to time, though it's not connected to anything that the sisters know. (That's 4 or 5 episodes already this season?)
-I'm excited how things pick up! I think we are close to getting a new episode each week now!
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Post by neith on Feb 20, 2019 8:31:10 GMT -5
Last episode was so disjointed. Macy’s backstory, Mel’s Nico, Harry’s son, and Maggie’s Parker. Every time I watch an episode I wonder what was the point of remaking them into sisters? Or three sisters? They rarely seem to come together as a trio and when they do, I still am not getting any cohesiveness. I’m not getting a purpose.
That being said, they are trying..just too hard. The last episode was so over the top with the necromancer entrance. It was a parody of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina except it wasn’t cool. Charmed tries to be dark and serious and I don’t buy it. It tries to be quirky and funny but comes off as lame and draining. The reboot lacks an identifiable style which is why it has little substance for me. There’s room to work with so they may improve, but the show should be canceled. They can try another remake in 5 years!
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 22, 2019 8:10:09 GMT -5
Last episode was so disjointed. Macy’s backstory, Mel’s Nico, Harry’s son, and Maggie’s Parker. Every time I watch an episode I wonder what was the point of remaking them into sisters? Or three sisters? They rarely seem to come together as a trio and when they do, I still am not getting any cohesiveness. I’m not getting a purpose. That being said, they are trying..just too hard. The last episode was so over the top with the necromancer entrance. It was a parody of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina except it wasn’t cool. Charmed tries to be dark and serious and I don’t buy it. It tries to be quirky and funny but comes off as lame and draining. The reboot lacks an identifiable style which is why it has little substance for me. There’s room to work with so they may improve, but the show should be canceled. They can try another remake in 5 years! I think they made them sisters just so they could use the title "Charmed". From what I've read (yet to watch a second), their sisterhood is the very-least important thing - it's just like S4-8 of Classic Charmed, what I call the alternate-universe spin-off of what I count as "Charmed" (S1-3) where they were three demon-hunters who happened to live in the same house, not three sisters who happened to be witches. For me, this new show is not "Charmed" any more than "The Perils of Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper" aka "PhoeME and Her Fantasy Men" aka "Two Witches and One Living Whitelighter Equals The Power of Three?" is. If it wasn't called "Charmed" we wouldn't be discussing it here at the Café or if we were, just in a single thread in the "Other Fandom" board, which is where I think it belongs, not giving it its own category on the home page. It's why I will continue to call it Ripoff Charmed and will continue to not watch a second, especially when I prefer our post-re-watch discussion after we re-watch an S1 episode of Classic Charmed together.
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Post by neith on Feb 23, 2019 13:48:00 GMT -5
Last episode was so disjointed. Macy’s backstory, Mel’s Nico, Harry’s son, and Maggie’s Parker. Every time I watch an episode I wonder what was the point of remaking them into sisters? Or three sisters? They rarely seem to come together as a trio and when they do, I still am not getting any cohesiveness. I’m not getting a purpose. That being said, they are trying..just too hard. The last episode was so over the top with the necromancer entrance. It was a parody of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina except it wasn’t cool. Charmed tries to be dark and serious and I don’t buy it. It tries to be quirky and funny but comes off as lame and draining. The reboot lacks an identifiable style which is why it has little substance for me. There’s room to work with so they may improve, but the show should be canceled. They can try another remake in 5 years! I think they made them sisters just so they could use the title "Charmed". From what I've read (yet to watch a second), their sisterhood is the very-least important thing - it's just like S4-8 of Classic Charmed, what I call the alternate-universe spin-off of what I count as "Charmed" (S1-3) where they were three demon-hunters who happened to live in the same house, not three sisters who happened to be witches. For me, this new show is not "Charmed" any more than "The Perils of Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper" aka "PhoeME and Her Fantasy Men" aka "Two Witches and One Living Whitelighter Equals The Power of Three?" is. If it wasn't called "Charmed" we wouldn't be discussing it here at the Café or if we were, just in a single thread in the "Other Fandom" board, which is where I think it belongs, not giving it its own category on the home page. It's why I will continue to call it Ripoff Charmed and will continue to not watch a second, especially when I prefer our post-re-watch discussion after we re-watch an S1 episode of Classic Charmed together. I have to agree. Which is why I wish we would have gotten an indirect spin-off-reboot as opposed to a reboot of the Charmed Ones. I could have done with just one or two witches, sisters or no, who fight evil demons because they’re good. The sisterly element is what made the original unique. It was their familiar bond that fans attached themselves too, in addition to their exciting magical world. The reboot seems to take more from the latter years of Charmed. Sisterhood isn’t the theme or focus of the new show. They seem more interested in desperate mysteries and plot twists of the week. I had hopes they would make me eat my words and that this reboot would knock the original on its side, but they’re really making a bigger mess of the Charmed legacy. The show was mistreated when it was on, when it was off, and even in this clunky reiteration no fan asked for.
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Post by cyma on Feb 23, 2019 15:10:02 GMT -5
Okay I can say is I definitely did not ever expect to see a mother holding a dead baby in Charmed let alone the reboot. The closest was probably Phoebe's unborn evil child. But the reaction to his death was your everyday normal vanquished demon. So thank God here the Mom's acting was an improvement from all the episodes before.
This necromancer woman doesn't seem like the same woman who was freed from Tartarus by Jada's group. Wonder who that other witch is.
Yeah that make sense for not raising Macy but keeping her other two daughters. Though I would like to know how exactly did Macy end up dying in the first place.
Break Time.
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Post by Astral Vision on May 7, 2019 12:44:07 GMT -5
I did enjoy the necromancer episode and getting an answer about why Macy wasn't raised with the others. Interesting to see where Harry was from, despite the fact that I now wish he actually had a Manchurian accent.
E4 (the channel airing this show in the UK) has moved Charmed's timeslot from 9pm to 11.25pm for episode 1x13. All they've put in its place tonight is a movie (Mrs Doubtfire, so nothing special), so it's not like they pushed it for a more popular show to air. That doesn't bode well for what its viewing figures are like here.
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