codebox
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Hey I'm a Charmed Veteran have been for a long time. Hope to share some insight and opinions.
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Post by codebox on Aug 22, 2019 20:26:12 GMT -5
What do you guys think of this artwork piece of Piper? Sorry if I posted this to the wrong thread, again feel free to move it or correct me if I did something wrong. I'm just curious, has there been fanart posted in general by the way?
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Post by gleamingroses on Aug 22, 2019 20:48:24 GMT -5
Honestly I'm going to be frankly blunt here. Don't get me wrong I think the artwork itself is really well done and I have seen the person's work on Twitter and they make some really well done comics and I have no ill will toward the artist themselves as they are free to draw whatever they please, but what really urks me is how Lupa uses it in her newest "Charmed Hard" video. Originally I could see where her reviews were coming from even if they were outdated, misinformed and quite frankly lacked proper research in a lot of areas I could see the appeal in some of them.
However I feel this has become oversaturated hate that is beginning to feel a bit much and ever since their "revival" their jokes have become very repetitive. Her voice imitations of Piper and Phoebe were originally funny, but now she just repeats how much they are unlikable now and focuses so much on them being bad that it just becomes the same joke in literally every video now. For example they've used the toilet flushing gag how many times now? I also find it frustrating how they still get facts wrong and don't bother to fact check except for specific instances or how they specifically look for things to complain about. I thought Piper and Leo got back together in "The Courtship of Wyatt's Father" I mean from memory wasn't the whole reason they got back together was to conceive Chris? He wouldn't have been born if they were still apart.
I also watched the episode for some confirmation and not once was there a mention of Piper going on a date, I don't know where they got that from. It almost seemed like they made it up on the spot to make Piper seem worse, even if I myself found her annoying in the episode. I also think they exaggerated Piper, sure in a couple of instances she's obnoxious (especially when she complained at him for scrying), but they have a habit of leaving out certain clips of dialogue while only focusing on what they have to complain about. In the beginning scene right after Piper talks to Leo about "moving on" she's seen walking down the stairs and says "please let him get through this?"..
Again they'll probably explain how disconnected it feels with the rest of her overall demeanor, but at the same time leaving out scenes that could argue against your points is better to acknowledge with counterpoints than to leave it out completely, otherwise it feels like you're just exaggerating facts. (Besides I say its better to validate Piper being awful with facts anyway. lol) Even with Piper wanting Leo to heal Paige wasn't as aggressive as they made Piper out to be. She literally calls Paige by name after she summons Leo by going "Fix this now" with Leo responding in a confused manner only for Piper to say "it's Paige"..
Why is them calling Daryl "Morris" such a big deal? They've literally referred to him as Morris since Season 2! (They often switch between the two names) as far as I can tell there's not really much of a difference to how they've called him Morris before or after.
Also Paige being "vain" was literally just referenced in ONE SCENE the whole "mam" thing was a JOKE and they treat it like it makes the entire basis of her character for the rest of the episode. Ignoring the fact Paige went to Brenda's girlfriend with information to look for her (though I will say Paige does deserve some backlash for being a complete idiot in just orbing away without even considering to orb Brenda out with her) but then once Paige does become old she instantly responds to Piper and Phoebe to "Save Brenda and not worry about her" if Paige was "Vain" why would she concern saving an innocent before herself?
Charrrrmed!!! was not a good episode by any means, especially when the ending resolves NO conflict to Brenda's girlfriend that Brenda died and nobody seemed to care, but my point is that their constant problem of just leaving out stuff and just overall repetitive jokes have gotten so stale, they were funny before, now they just seem to be doing the same thing over again even reusing the same sound effects for jokes.
What really urked me was that jab she took at Holly Marie Combs during her recent review of "Charrrrrmed!" where she shows this exact artwork then says "of Holly Marie Combs... Ur Piper" like I could care less that she's shaming Piper because Piper is just a character at the end of the day and while I'm a Piper fan I can't deny how insufferable she became in the later seasons, what got me is how she shamed Holly right before then going to Piper and it wasn't even a correction of "Oops I made a mistake" she says it in a joking tone. It's one thing to shame a character for funny laughs its another to do it to the actual person behind the character. Even if it was unintentional she took a jab at Holly and I wasn't comfortable with that. Aside from that the video feels no different from her other videos and them making the same jokes have gotten old at this point, I mostly found their pilot video good because they manage to talk about more things and corrected a lot of what their old views did wrong.
They are pretty much just milking it for all its worth at this point. I can agree with their opinions when it comes to the drastically lower quality of the later episodes, the awfulness of Phoebe and Piper and the general problems with the show, my problem is just how repetitive they've gotten with it. It also annoys me how people are conforming to their reviews (even their older ones) with no actual opinions of their own, they just go by a large amount of "take our word for it" Again their revival videos bring up valid complaints and criticisms we all can't deny, my problem is that I wish they were less repetitive with it now.
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