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Post by Assassin Witch on Nov 22, 2019 10:13:58 GMT -5
Charmed | 2.07 - "Past is Present"Original Airdate: Nov 22, 2019 @ 8PM  xEpisode SummaryHarry and Macy make a startling discovery; Maggie teams up with Abby against an unlikely foe. Mel must save Kat from an uncertain fate. Source |
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Post by codebox on Nov 23, 2019 9:07:32 GMT -5
Okay first things first, I know a lot of people were dreading the return of Parker (along with Parker x Maggie) and I was as well, but if I am to be honest this was probably Parker's best episode. Part of the issue I had with him was that he lacked motivation for anything outside of being Maggie's love interest, he was fun when he was under the Pixie Spell and such, but never had true motivations. In this episode I like how his Demon Overlord stance gives him that motivation, I like how he actually wants to have things more peaceful.. It actually makes me buy that he truly wants to be good. I even like his new powers/being threatening in this one (if only because I found it entertaining)
I mean his stuff with Maggie is still eh. But at least they gave him a motivation and goal beyond being Maggie's love interest. However I really dislike Maggie's persistance in how she tries to influence his actions, I get she means well, but it seems more like they are trying to make her more Phoebe like and I don't want that. It was already obvious by giving her Premonition and how taking boxing lessons from Jordan. We also have the cliched "marry me" ending.
I do wish Macy and Harry would just already admit their feelings for each other, while they are my favorite characters and I like them it's kinda starting to drag out. And once again this episode just separates the sisters for their own individual love interest plots. It seems more and more that the girls are working less together than isn't just having one or two scenes together before spliting up again. Jordan is also still boring as a character, just as bad as Parker and Galvin from Season 1.
I did enjoy this episode more than previous ones and am interested in seeing a Abigail vs Parker showdown. I just hope it won't be as anticlimatic as all the death's in Season 1. Which one will die? Idk.
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Post by Katie Warren on Nov 24, 2019 7:24:06 GMT -5
Okay first things first, I know a lot of people were dreading the return of Parker (along with Parker x Maggie) and I was as well, but if I am to be honest this was probably Parker's best episode. Part of the issue I had with him was that he lacked motivation for anything outside of being Maggie's love interest, he was fun when he was under the Pixie Spell and such, but never had true motivations. In this episode I like how his Demon Overlord stance gives him that motivation, I like how he actually wants to have things more peaceful.. It actually makes me buy that he truly wants to be good. I even like his new powers/being threatening in this one (if only because I found it entertaining) I mean his stuff with Maggie is still eh. But at least they gave him a motivation and goal beyond being Maggie's love interest. However I really dislike Maggie's persistance in how she tries to influence his actions, I get she means well, but it seems more like they are trying to make her more Phoebe like and I don't want that. It was already obvious by giving her Premonition and how taking boxing lessons from Jordan. We also have the cliched "marry me" ending. I do wish Macy and Harry would just already admit their feelings for each other, while they are my favorite characters and I like them it's kinda starting to drag out. And once again this episode just separates the sisters for their own individual love interest plots. It seems more and more that the girls are working less together than isn't just having one or two scenes together before spliting up again. Jordan is also still boring as a character, just as bad as Parker and Galvin from Season 1. I did enjoy this episode more than previous ones and am interested in seeing a Abigail vs Parker showdown. I just hope it won't be as anticlimatic as all the death's in Season 1. Which one will die? Idk. I enjoyed Mel and Katrina. I admit I don't mind them. Because their relationship isn't forced down our throats. I noticed the actor playing Parker wasn't a regular, of course he was during Season 1. Only Abigail is this season. So he might not stick around for too long. Is Parker being set up to die. The second he asked Maggie to marry him and setting up Abigail to gain power. I feel like Parker could well be the mid season finale death. I hope so, since he has bored me, and so want to be done with him. No freaking way Maggie at 20 years old will marry Parker. It feels like Parker is set up to die, that's exactly what I thought the minute they had him ask Maggie to marry him. Yet again witches were hanged not burned. Even the reboot got it wrong, like Charmed did. |
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Post by codebox on Nov 24, 2019 21:08:51 GMT -5
Okay rewatched the episode again and yeah the Maggie/Parker stuff did annoy me. I still standby Parker's less annoying in this one and is his best episode. But I still hate how it just felt much like their romance from Season 1. I liked pieces of Mel's storyline with Katrina, but what annoyed me was they finally gave Kat a purpose only to just throw her away. Jordan is still just as useless as Parker and Galvin in Season 1.
Speaking of Jordan, the Jordan ring subplot was basically Pardon My Past from Season 2 of OG. Jordan being cursed to die before his twenty-sixth birthday due to an ancestor's actions is similar to Phoebe in the original series episode Pardon My Past, where Prue and Piper's past lives, P. Bowen and P. Baxter, cursed Phoebe's past life, P. Russell, to die, and every future life she had before her twenty-fifth year - Phoebe was only able to survive due to a Protection Amulet protecting her from the curse.
Yeah I'm not a fan of cliffhanger marriage plots it always sets up for things predictably.. I did have a feeling Parker might die, the only question is how? I mean Sarah Jeffery and Nick Hargrove are dating, so how much will it influence the direction of that storyline?
If I am to be honest though I thought Maggie was more annoying than Parker and she is slowly becoming my least favorite character and is giving me Season 3 Phoebe vibes, which is NOT a good thing. (I started hating Maggie more when she touched Jordan inappropriately in a previous episode and being treated as okay or her using him for force out her Premonition power). She's not there yet, but a few things she said stuck out to me. What annoyed me was Maggie's persistence that Parker not kill Abigail as if it's a huge betrayal to their relationship and the ultimate point in him "not being saved". It's feels sort of like a double standard in that Macy has a demon side as well and has actively lashed out at both of them when it got out of control, Maggie herself killed Hunter, not to mention Hunter was Parker's brother, but somehow Parker killing Abigail is wrong? Why is it fine for Hunter and Alastor to die, but not Abigail? The whole "blood related" excuse doesn't make any sense. How if Maggie had paralleled this to Macy in how "her human side still manage to save her" I could buy this more, but just killing Abigail wouldn't drive Parker to evil status.
It's not like just killing her will corrupt his morality she tried to KILL him and she's an active liar and murder! It's the same bullcrap Phoebe did to Cole in OG Charmed before she started hating him and it was just as annoying there. Sure if they'd use the fact Macy was saved, and so could Abigail, then sure. But its so picky about that. I guess in Maggie's defense she sounds less manipulative about it compared to PhoeMe, but it doesn't change the fact it feels one sided.
There's a fine line of killing just for the kill and killing out of self defense. I don't see why he shouldn't do it. It feels like a double standard because two women can apparently get away with it, but when a man does it its "evil" or how it doesn't apply to Hunter a "male"..
Also I have noticed that the girls in the reboot save even less people than the OG sisters, at least for the Haliwells the Prue seasons (And a couple exceptions in Season 4) had them care about innocents to some extent before they became giant scabs. Except for Paige who had to pick up the slack occasionally. But in the reboot I can only think of so much they rescued.
It also took 4 seasons for their love interests to centralize their entire pointlines, here in the reboot their love stories seem to define almost half of their plots. Mel and Maggie have NEVER had plots that aren't just dates and now Macy/Harry are hinting to being a thing that's being treated as more of a priority over the other two sisters. By this I mean dates became the main focus over magic, not that plots didn't inheritly involve love. The sisters are also still separating more.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 25, 2019 14:36:36 GMT -5
I don't know what to say nor need to say about this episode because Codebox and Katie have said it already which I agree on of course.
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