Did Enola Predict The Avatars?

[forbuss]

The following is an excerpt from "The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell" after Phoebe returns from her last vision quest:

Chris: Phoebe, can you hear me? We need your help. Are you okay?

Phoebe: Uh, I don't know. Am I?

Enola: You tell me. What'd you see?

Phoebe: Uh, I saw children and my child. And a life without demons. Is that even possible?

Enola: With your powers, you know by now what is truth and what is not. Embrace those powers again, embrace your path and it will lead you there.

Phoebe: You don't know how much you've given me.

Enola: You should go. So you can use your powers to help save our school.

Do you think Enola the Shaman was referencing the Avatars? The vision Phoebe saw was similar to the vision Kyra gave her in season seven. Was Enola the first to predict the return of the Avatars? What was she referencing if not?

[Too Much Coffee]

I never thought about that, but you could be right, maybe she did, or the writers had the Avatar arc in mind for the next season at this point, again, I'd be surprised if they put that much effort in planning that far ahead I'm not sure what she'd be referencing if it wasn't, I'll have to think about that some more.

Again, never liked what this vision quest did setting up Phoebe's baby daddy quest, but that isn't what we're talking about.

But yeah, it could be a reference to them, but again, I'd be so surprised they planned that far ahead, might have had the whole world without demons as an idea, but didn't think the idea of the Avatars until later.

But, Forbuss, good spot.

[forbuss]

Sept 21, 2020 23:46:32 GMT -5 Too Much Coffee said:

I never thought about that, but you could be right, maybe she did, or the writers had the Avatar arc in mind for the next season at this point, again, I'd be surprised if they put that much effort in planning that far ahead I'm not sure what she'd be referencing if it wasn't, I'll have to think about that some more.

Again, never liked what this vision quest did setting up Phoebe's baby daddy quest, but that isn't what we're talking about.

But yeah, it could be a reference to them, but again, I'd be so surprised they planned that far ahead, might have had the whole world without demons as an idea, but didn't think the idea of the Avatars until later.

But, Forbuss, good spot.

Found another quote from 6x21:

Phoebe: It's okay. We've been through worse. We'll get through this. We'll figure it out. And if you get back to the future and we're in jail, you just have to bust us out. (She smiles.) You just go back to that beautiful, peaceful world that you helped create. (She and Chris hug.) I'm really gonna miss you.

Chris: I'll miss you too.

Now I am really confused. Was the world Phoebe saw in her vision quest the world they created by ensuring Wyatt didn't turn evil? How did saving Wyatt mean there was a future without demons? Or was it really about the Avatars?

[Too Much Coffee]

Sept 22, 2020 19:18:50 GMT -5 forbuss said:

Sept 21, 2020 23:46:32 GMT -5 Too Much Coffee said:

I never thought about that, but you could be right, maybe she did, or the writers had the Avatar arc in mind for the next season at this point, again, I'd be surprised if they put that much effort in planning that far ahead I'm not sure what she'd be referencing if it wasn't, I'll have to think about that some more.

Again, never liked what this vision quest did setting up Phoebe's baby daddy quest, but that isn't what we're talking about.

But yeah, it could be a reference to them, but again, I'd be so surprised they planned that far ahead, might have had the whole world without demons as an idea, but didn't think the idea of the Avatars until later.

But, Forbuss, good spot.

Found another quote from 6x21:

Phoebe: It's okay. We've been through worse. We'll get through this. We'll figure it out. And if you get back to the future and we're in jail, you just have to bust us out. (She smiles.) You just go back to that beautiful, peaceful world that you helped create. (She and Chris hug.) I'm really gonna miss you.

Chris: I'll miss you too.

Now I am really confused. Was the world Phoebe saw in her vision quest the world they created by ensuring Wyatt didn't turn evil? How did saving Wyatt mean there was a future without demons? Or was it really about the Avatars?

Thanks Forbuss for more updates.

Okay, like you, now, I'm very confused, looks like the writers didn't even know what they wanted, and maybe it wasn't talking about the Avatars.

I think from this, they are really talking about a peaceful future when Wyatt didn't turn evil (and that is what they meant with Phoebe's vision quest). But you're right, it makes no sense with the way they are writing and the dialogue they are making the characters say, demons still would exist in this future. It had nothing to do with Wyatt not being evil or not. 

[imdb lives on]

The writers have metioned they wrote each season as if it was a video game where they take out bosses. So it seems they meant evil Wyatt here

[Esmeralda]

Sept 25, 2020 18:48:01 GMT -5 imdb lives on said:

The writers have metioned they wrote each season as if it was a video game where they take out bosses. So it seems they meant evil Wyatt here

*sigh* What a horrible thing to do to a show that was supposed to be about three sisters who happen to be witches who were supposed to protect the innocent not punish the guilty. No wonder why I don't like the last five seasons.

By the way, welcome back, IMDb; I've missed you.

[imdb lives on]

Missed you to Es.

[forbuss]

Sept 25, 2020 23:11:31 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 25, 2020 18:48:01 GMT -5 imdb lives on said:

The writers have metioned they wrote each season as if it was a video game where they take out bosses. So it seems they meant evil Wyatt here

*sigh* What a horrible thing to do to a show that was supposed to be about three sisters who happen to be witches who were supposed to protect the innocent not punish the guilty. No wonder why I don't like the last five seasons.

By the way, welcome back, IMDb; I've missed you.

Holly recently explained (in an instagram live with Rose McGowan) that that type of formula was Aaron Spellings doing. With all of his shows at the time he was thinking of syndication. Holly said he wanted 'Charmed' to be able to air in reruns in any order, so that if someone who has never saw Charmed before watches a random episode on TV they would know exactly what's happening.

Holly and Rose both critiqued this aspect of the show and seemed sortof displeased with it.

[Aaeiyn]

I think Phoebe might've inferred her vision to mean a life without demons, and Enola wanted Phoebe to answer her own question. My theory is Kyra lied about her vision and presented Phoebe with a fake premonition about the Avatars, so Kyra could have some leverage, in this "new world order".