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Post by rebooted on Jan 28, 2022 20:38:27 GMT -5
In Season 1 which relationship did you like more?
For some reason, I have started to like the Piper and Leo beginnings. They are quite cute when Leo is the handyman.
Although I did like Prue and Andys chemistry and the X-Files/ Protecting her secret storyline.
Overall though, Piper and Leo's love is quite beautiful at the start.
(Regardless of Leo being a creepy old dead man!)
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 28, 2022 20:56:14 GMT -5
Prue & Andy.
I didn't even realize Piper & Leo even had a relationship, in S1 LOL
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 28, 2022 21:40:54 GMT -5
Piper and Leo.
How I wish Leo had stayed away after 'Love Hurts'! Then they'd be my favorite couple.
For me, Andy always seemed more like Prue's first love and her friend than her soul mate, the same way I feel about Paige and Glenn.
In S1, Leo was definitely Piper's love, especially before she knew he was a whitelighter and dead, and so much older than her. I can't really say that from S2-8 when she only used him, never seemed to love him the way he loved her.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2022 1:11:13 GMT -5
Piper and Leo. How I wish Leo had stayed away after 'Love Hurts'! Then they'd be my favorite couple. For me, Andy always seemed more like Prue's first love and her friend than her soul mate, the same way I feel about Paige and Glenn. In S1, Leo was definitely Piper's love, especially before she knew he was a whitelighter and dead, and so much older than her. I can't really say that from S2-8 when she only used him, never seemed to love him the way he loved her. Agree with this. I would have preferred Mark for Piper but I like Leo as well, so I am kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I never considered Andy, Prue's soulmate either. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 29, 2022 2:00:18 GMT -5
Piper and Leo. How I wish Leo had stayed away after 'Love Hurts'! Then they'd be my favorite couple. For me, Andy always seemed more like Prue's first love and her friend than her soul mate, the same way I feel about Paige and Glenn. In S1, Leo was definitely Piper's love, especially before she knew he was a whitelighter and dead, and so much older than her. I can't really say that from S2-8 when she only used him, never seemed to love him the way he loved her. Agree with this. I would have preferred Mark for Piper but I like Leo as well, so I am kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I never considered Andy, Prue's soulmate either. See, Mark & Piper had an obvious relationship. I'm not seeing how some (not all) like the S1 Piper & Leo relationship because it barely existed and off and on. And, I don't agree that Andy is not Prue's soulmate. I do believe that they are. As Andy died protecting Prue, and Prue never really had found anybody else because only Andy was the one for her. And, she died, as well and can now be with him, after death. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2022 5:53:57 GMT -5
Agree with this. I would have preferred Mark for Piper but I like Leo as well, so I am kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I never considered Andy, Prue's soulmate either. See, Mark & Piper had an obvious relationship. I'm not seeing how some (not all) like the S1 Piper & Leo relationship because it barely existed and off and on. And, I don't agree that Andy is not Prue's soulmate. I do believe that they are. As Andy died protecting Prue, and Prue never really had found anybody else because only Andy was the one for her. And, she died, as well and can now be with him, after death. I personally believe that Andy isn't Prue's soulmate, he didn't protect her at all, he was just added to the people that Prue had to care about, she actively told him to stay away but he didn't listen and died as a result of refusing to comply with Prue. I believe that she is at peace and is enjoying heaven. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 29, 2022 13:49:45 GMT -5
See, Mark & Piper had an obvious relationship. I'm not seeing how some (not all) like the S1 Piper & Leo relationship because it barely existed and off and on. And, I don't agree that Andy is not Prue's soulmate. I do believe that they are. As Andy died protecting Prue, and Prue never really had found anybody else because only Andy was the one for her. And, she died, as well and can now be with him, after death. I personally believe that Andy isn't Prue's soulmate, he didn't protect her at all, he was just added to the people that Prue had to care about, she actively told him to stay away but he didn't listen and died as a result of refusing to comply with Prue. I believe that she is at peace and is enjoying heaven. Do I believe Andy got himself killed? Yes. Was Prue trying to protect Andy? Yes. Realistically, was Andy really protecting Prue? No. But, the important part in all of this is that he thought he was. You (I mean this generally speaking and not trying to point fingers) can't tell me that that's not an act of love or not soulmate worthy because I feel like it is. Regardless of what he said he wanted, he willingly put himself on the line, for Prue which is more than what Brendan, Jack, Bane, etc., did. I'll give Micah & T.J. a free pass, as they were the only two (aside from Andy) to put themselves on the line, for her (though, Micah was more for the greater good than Prue, specifically, but I digress), but they were one episode gimmicks whereas Andy was not. At least we agree she's at peace, whether it's with Andy is up for debate, but I believe it's with Andy  |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 29, 2022 14:00:45 GMT -5
When, it comes to Piper, I didn't really like her and Leo, in S1. I like her & Mark, obviously, but I (also) like her & Josh and thought S1E19 Out of Sight did them dirty. I probably would still pick Prue & Andy over Piper & Josh, but at least Piper & Josh would have some merit & weight to their credibility, as a couple.
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Post by Elle Em on Jan 29, 2022 17:34:18 GMT -5
I like both relationships. As Es said, I don't think that Prue and Andy were meant to be together in a soul mates kind of way, but more as friends. I think if Prue had never become a witch and they had reconnected that they would have been happy together, but because of the witch experience, Prue outgrew him. That's not to say anything bad about Andy at all, but I think he was a much less complicated person and Prue was on a major journey after becoming a witch. I like to watch season 1 and imagine that both of them survive for a long time afterwards as close friends, but not as a couple.
And I do like Piper and Leo in season 1 as well. It isn't a true relationship in a lot of ways because Piper is hiding her secret from him, and even though Leo knows who she really is, he can't tell her that or divulge his status as magical himself. But with Leo pretending to be a normal guy and Piper pretending to be a normal girl, it gave us a glimpse into what a less complicated life could look like for those two, and it was overall really sweet. But just like in what I wish had happened for Prue and Andy, I wish Piper and Leo had never gotten back together and that we'd have this period of time to look back on when everything seemed easy.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2022 23:40:57 GMT -5
I personally believe that Andy isn't Prue's soulmate, he didn't protect her at all, he was just added to the people that Prue had to care about, she actively told him to stay away but he didn't listen and died as a result of refusing to comply with Prue. I believe that she is at peace and is enjoying heaven. Do I believe Andy got himself killed? Yes. Was Prue trying to protect Andy? Yes. Realistically, was Andy really protecting Prue? No. But, the important part in all of this is that he thought he was. You (I mean this generally speaking and not trying to point fingers) can't tell me that that's not an act of love or not soulmate worthy because I feel like it is. Regardless of what he said he wanted, he willingly put himself on the line, for Prue which is more than what Brendan, Jack, Bane, etc., did. I'll give Micah & T.J. a free pass, as they were the only two (aside from Andy) to put themselves on the line, for her (though, Micah was more for the greater good than Prue, specifically, but I digress), but they were one episode gimmicks whereas Andy was not. At least we agree she's at peace, whether it's with Andy is up for debate, but I believe it's with Andy Fine! However, I will not sit there and state that Andy did that for "love", he did it because he believed he was more useful than what he is. Andy knew that Prue lost her grandmother and mother and was potentially going to lose her sisters to a demon, the only thing she wanted was for Andy to not be there because she couldn't risk losing him too, he defied her by going to the manor with a gun, something he didn't know would actively be of use, draw his gun and shot at the demon, he realised he was wrong in that moment, then was attacked with an energy ball, and then died subjecting Prue to even more pain than what was necessary, he that because of ego, not because of love. Why does a potential or an actual soulmate have to put their lives on the line for the sisters and not just listen to them when they state to stay away? That sounds egotistical, he is a mortal not a super-human. It's the reason why a soulmate for the sisters, more specific in this case, Prue, would have to be someone who is willingly going to listen to her and put aside their ego, something Andy didn't do and got killed, rightfully so. And the only way I will accept the whole "soulmate putting their lives on the line for the sisters" is if they are magical because then they could actually be go use when in fights with a demon or any magical enemy they may face, which is majority of them. |
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Post by Elle Em on Jan 30, 2022 8:17:50 GMT -5
Why does a potential or an actual soulmate have to put their lives on the line for the sisters and not just listen to them when they state to stay away? That sounds egotistical, he is a mortal not a super-human. It's the reason why a soulmate for the sisters, more specific in this case, Prue, would have to be someone who is willingly going to listen to her and put aside their ego, something Andy didn't do and got killed, rightfully so. This makes sense. It would mean more to me that someone listened to what I said about keeping themselves safe than about needlessly putting themselves in danger. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 30, 2022 9:14:52 GMT -5
Why does a potential or an actual soulmate have to put their lives on the line for the sisters and not just listen to them when they state to stay away? That sounds egotistical, he is a mortal not a super-human. It's the reason why a soulmate for the sisters, more specific in this case, Prue, would have to be someone who is willingly going to listen to her and put aside their ego, something Andy didn't do and got killed, rightfully so. This makes sense. It would mean more to me that someone listened to what I said about keeping themselves safe than about needlessly putting themselves in danger. Exactly, and if you were to lose your sisters, you would be comforted by the thought that you still had them. I hate the whole "you must put your life on the line to be considered a soulmate" it's a stupid statement. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 30, 2022 9:17:44 GMT -5
Fine! However, I will not sit there and state that Andy did that for "love", he did it because he believed he was more useful than what he is. Andy knew that Prue lost her grandmother and mother and was potentially going to lose her sisters to a demon, the only thing she wanted was for Andy to not be there because she couldn't risk losing him too, he defied her by going to the manor with a gun, something he didn't know would actively be of use, draw his gun and shot at the demon, he realised he was wrong in that moment, then was attacked with an energy ball, and then died subjecting Prue to even more pain than what was necessary, he that because of ego, not because of love. Why does a potential or an actual soulmate have to put their lives on the line for the sisters and not just listen to them when they state to stay away? That sounds egotistical, he is a mortal not a super-human. It's the reason why a soulmate for the sisters, more specific in this case, Prue, would have to be someone who is willingly going to listen to her and put aside their ego, something Andy didn't do and got killed, rightfully so. And the only way I will accept the whole "soulmate putting their lives on the line for the sisters" is if they are magical because then they could actually be go use when in fights with a demon or any magical enemy they may face, which is majority of them. It makes sense, now, why S1 Piper & Leo are getting votes over Prue & Andy. A soulmate (allegedly) is to not challenge you and help grow with you. They're (allegedly) supposed to just sit there, look pretty and be commanded when called LOL Sorry, that's how I read your comment. I'm sorry that's a simp, not a soulmate. And, in regards to Andy putting himself on the line, he does that already without demons. As Darryl would say because he's a cop! It was a natural instinct for him to protect Prue. Has nothing to do with his ego. We're at a definite impasse. I'm more just shocked at your definition of a soulmate LOL But, if that's how y'all view it, it makes sense, now why S1 Piper & Leo are winning. Leo didn't challenge Piper, had no personality and "listened" to Piper, like a good simp. |
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