Which storyline should have been expanded upon?

[louislemon]

Is there a storyline or an episode plot that you wish the show expanded on and made it important to the show?

[Elle Em]

I think everything in seasons 3 and 4 could have been stretched out:

-Cole should not have been revealed as a demon until halfway through season 3.
-The finale of season 3 could be where everyone finds out who he really is and Phoebe pretends to kill him. Piper and Leo could also finally get married in this episode. 
-Season 4 could be about everyone learning Phoebe lied, as well as Cole coming back into their lives. I'd want Cole working undercover with the Brotherhood to be expanded to fill the last half of season 4, obviously with a lot more content added here.
-AHBL could take place at the end of season 4.
-The time for mourning Prue takes at least several episodes of season 5. During this time, the audience sees Paige, but she and her sisters don't meet. Paige is just beginning to do research into who her birth family is. 
-The sisters meet after being led to each other. The rest of the first half of season 5 is them getting to know each other.
-The second half of season 5 is Paige having a hard time accepting magic and her place within it, and relapsing with alcohol. Piper and Phoebe help her recover, which helps all three of them bond, while at the same time the Source is growing as a threat.
-Season 5 ends with the Source's vanquish.
-Season 6 could be where Cole is revealed to be the Source, and Phoebe going over to the dark side. Piper and Paige are able to bond a lot more during this time. The season ends with Phoebe coming back and the three of them realizing Cole didn't choose to be evil and de-possessing him, then vanquishing the Source for good. 

I'm not sure where Wyatt or Melinda or anyone else would feature here, but these stories could easily carry the show through four seasons instead of just two like we saw. 

[Melinda Halliwell]

I like how you extended seasons 3 and 4 to fit 5 and 6 Elle Em allowing those events to expand and grow more also.

Of course, fans who didn't like Wyatt and Chris or thought they featured too prominently throughout the show are rewarded here because they don't start featuring until either season 7 or not at all if viewers didn't want to see children at all.

With regards to Cole it's good you distinguished that he is possessed by the Source and that the sisters don't outrightly kill him but try to dispossess the two which works here but also makes the girls likeable in terms of what they do especially Phoebe character wise overall.

[Assassin Witch]

Chris-Crossed should have been a minimum of a two-parter, though I would have liked more of the story woven throughout.

(I'm sure everyone is *shocked* to hear that from me.)

[Esmeralda]

Feb 4, 2022 12:36:27 GMT -5 Assassin Witch said:

Chris-Crossed should have been a minimum of a two-parter, though I would have liked more of the story woven throughout.

(I'm sure everyone is *shocked* to hear that from me.)

Believe it or not, you beat me to this...it's EXACTLY what I was going to write. If Chris truly had a reason for behaving the way he did (the way he does in a number of fantastically wonderful fanfics - but the Chris in those is NOTHING like Kern's/Fuller's lying, whining, murdering brat) maybe I'd like him and that season more.

And me saying that might actually shock some people.

But so many horrible fluff episodes in that season. Get rid of them and also the storyline of Piper proving how very little she (or her sisters) cared about Leo along with Phoebe's vision quest, the start of her horrible baby-daddy search and Paige getting ditzier the blonder she got (I always swore the peroxide went straight to her brain!) and give us more episodes about what happened in Chris' future to show why he was the way he was, yes, I could get into that.

[Esmeralda]

Feb 4, 2022 8:16:41 GMT -5 Elle Em said:

I think everything in seasons 3 and 4 could have been stretched out:

-Cole should not have been revealed as a demon until halfway through season 3.
-The finale of season 3 could be where everyone finds out who he really is and Phoebe pretends to kill him. Piper and Leo could also finally get married in this episode. 
-Season 4 could be about everyone learning Phoebe lied, as well as Cole coming back into their lives. I'd want Cole working undercover with the Brotherhood to be expanded to fill the last half of season 4, obviously with a lot more content added here.
-AHBL could take place at the end of season 4.
-The time for mourning Prue takes at least several episodes of season 5. During this time, the audience sees Paige, but she and her sisters don't meet. Paige is just beginning to do research into who her birth family is. 
-The sisters meet after being led to each other. The rest of the first half of season 5 is them getting to know each other.
-The second half of season 5 is Paige having a hard time accepting magic and her place within it, and relapsing with alcohol. Piper and Phoebe help her recover, which helps all three of them bond, while at the same time the Source is growing as a threat.
-Season 5 ends with the Source's vanquish.
-Season 6 could be where Cole is revealed to be the Source, and Phoebe going over to the dark side. Piper and Paige are able to bond a lot more during this time. The season ends with Phoebe coming back and the three of them realizing Cole didn't choose to be evil and de-possessing him, then vanquishing the Source for good. 

I'm not sure where Wyatt or Melinda or anyone else would feature here, but these stories could easily carry the show through four seasons instead of just two like we saw. 

I LOVE your plotline, Elle Em, but I don't like your timeline. I think using four seasons to go through all of this would either make the whole thing very boring or full of fluff episodes that would take away from your wonderful plotline.

It's also ignoring the fact that Shannen was fired after S3 so Prue *MUST* die then. I like how you use Paige and her sisters, but that could easily be part of S4.

I think what you'd need to do is shove Piper and Leo's wedding until the end of Season Four, while also getting rid of Cole the Source, Phoebe, Queen of the Underworld and the Phoetus. Just do that, and I think you could easily follow your storyline and just stick to S3 and S4 and you'd have a MUCH better series.

Do that and you could end up with this:

-Cole is not revealed as a demon until halfway through S3. Everyone finds out who he really is during the midseason finale, which is also when Phoebe pretends to kill him.

-The last half of S4 is about everyone learning Phoebe lied, as well as Cole coming back into their lives. Cole would work undercover with the Brotherhood, expanded to fill the last half of S3.

-Shannen gets fired, so AHBL continues to take place at the end of S3.

-The time for mourning Prue takes at least six episodes of S4. During this time, the audience sees Paige, but she and her half-sisters don't meet. Paige is just beginning to do research into who her birth family is

-The sisters meet after being led to each other in the seventh S4 episode. The rest of the first half of S4 is them getting to know each other and having the Charmed Ones reconstituted in the tenth episode which is when they first find out that Paige is their half-sister and only has two powers - the power to move things with her mind which works exactly like Prue's and the power to orb. She's much more a witch than a whitelighter. She continues to be more like a cousin than a sister and never moves into the Manor. But she's an important part of the Power of Three.

-The second half of S4 is Paige having a hard time accepting magic and her place within it, and relapsing with alcohol. Piper and Phoebe help her recover, which helps all three of them bond. If she does move into the Manor, this is when that would happen - after she asks if she can - she's not forced.

-S4 (and Charmed) ends with the the Angel of Destiny giving them all their choice. The sisters give up their powers as do Leo and Cole, who both become mortal. Leo becomes a doctor and Cole a lawyer. The series ends with a double wedding with Paige catching both bouquets. There are no flashforwards, just the two couples heading for their honeymoon and the Book of Shadows closing and the attic door closing and locking, ending the story of the Charmed Ones.

So? What do you think about that?

[Elle Em]

Feb 4, 2022 20:40:04 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I LOVE your plotline, Elle Em, but I don't like your timeline. I think using four seasons to go through all of this would either make the whole thing very boring or full of fluff episodes that would take away from your wonderful plotline.

It's also ignoring the fact that Shannen was fired after S3 so Prue *MUST* die then. I like how you use Paige and her sisters, but that could easily be part of S4.

I think what you'd need to do is shove Piper and Leo's wedding until the end of Season Four, while also getting rid of Cole the Source, Phoebe, Queen of the Underworld and the Phoetus. Just do that, and I think you could easily follow your storyline and just stick to S3 and S4 and you'd have a MUCH better series.

Do that and you could end up with this:

-Cole is not revealed as a demon until halfway through S3. Everyone finds out who he really is during the midseason finale, which is also when Phoebe pretends to kill him.

-The last half of S4 is about everyone learning Phoebe lied, as well as Cole coming back into their lives. Cole would work undercover with the Brotherhood, expanded to fill the last half of S3.

-Shannen gets fired, so AHBL continues to take place at the end of S3.

-The time for mourning Prue takes at least six episodes of S4. During this time, the audience sees Paige, but she and her half-sisters don't meet. Paige is just beginning to do research into who her birth family is

-The sisters meet after being led to each other in the seventh S4 episode. The rest of the first half of S4 is them getting to know each other and having the Charmed Ones reconstituted in the tenth episode which is when they first find out that Paige is their half-sister and only has two powers - the power to move things with her mind which works exactly like Prue's and the power to orb. She's much more a witch than a whitelighter. She continues to be more like a cousin than a sister and never moves into the Manor. But she's an important part of the Power of Three.

-The second half of S4 is Paige having a hard time accepting magic and her place within it, and relapsing with alcohol. Piper and Phoebe help her recover, which helps all three of them bond. If she does move into the Manor, this is when that would happen - after she asks if she can - she's not forced.

-S4 (and Charmed) ends with the the Angel of Destiny giving them all their choice. The sisters give up their powers as do Leo and Cole, who both become mortal. Leo becomes a doctor and Cole a lawyer. The series ends with a double wedding with Paige catching both bouquets. There are no flashforwards, just the two couples heading for their honeymoon and the Book of Shadows closing and the attic door closing and locking, ending the story of the Charmed Ones.

So? What do you think about that?

This makes sense if Prue still has to die when she originally does because of Shannen being fired, and I also like how Paige doesn't move into the Manor right away. During my most recent rewatch of that episode, it happened way, way too soon.

How would you resolve the Source storyline? I can understand not wanting to have Cole dragged into it, even though I personally enjoy that arc, but what about the original Source? 

I also like that the show ends with everyone giving up their powers, but it's a bit too soon for me. I'd like Paige to be a witch longer and to have more to do, either with the Source or someone else very powerful, before they leave it all behind. Ideally I'd like for both Prue and Paige to each get three years as witches. 

[Esmeralda]

Feb 5, 2022 17:53:49 GMT -5 Elle Em said:

Feb 4, 2022 20:40:04 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I LOVE your plotline, Elle Em, but I don't like your timeline. I think using four seasons to go through all of this would either make the whole thing very boring or full of fluff episodes that would take away from your wonderful plotline.

It's also ignoring the fact that Shannen was fired after S3 so Prue *MUST* die then. I like how you use Paige and her sisters, but that could easily be part of S4.

I think what you'd need to do is shove Piper and Leo's wedding until the end of Season Four, while also getting rid of Cole the Source, Phoebe, Queen of the Underworld and the Phoetus. Just do that, and I think you could easily follow your storyline and just stick to S3 and S4 and you'd have a MUCH better series.

Do that and you could end up with this:

So? What do you think about that?

This makes sense if Prue still has to die when she originally does because of Shannen being fired, and I also like how Paige doesn't move into the Manor right away. During my most recent rewatch of that episode, it happened way, way too soon.

How would you resolve the Source storyline? I can understand not wanting to have Cole dragged into it, even though I personally enjoy that arc, but what about the original Source?

Easy. I'd have him be the one who kills Prue, not Shax, so when the sisters get rid of Shax, they actually got rid of the Source and the Source never possesses anyone.  It's my least-favorite storyline, so, of course, I'd leave it out.  It also gives us a chance to get Phoebs back, rather than PhoeMe.

The best part about this is we don't get stuck with Half-Face. This way Michael only has to play the original Source, not both him and Shax.

I also like that the show ends with everyone giving up their powers, but it's a bit too soon for me. I'd like Paige to be a witch longer and to have more to do, either with the Source or someone else very powerful, before they leave it all behind. Ideally I'd like for both Prue and Paige to each get three years as witches. 

Well, obviously we'd have to agree to disagree on that. If you want to continue into S5 (I don't...hence why I ended it.), go for it. Although I don't like any of these ideas, I'm curious to see what you'd do with it, especially again you have to remember - NO SHANNEN, SO NO PRUE!

Unless you're doing yours as ideas for a fanfic where you don't have to follow what happened BTS. Then what you're doing with both Prue and Paige makes a lot of sense, although if Prue survived I'd prefer Paige never being introduced - no need for her to become your Mary Sue.

[Melinda Halliwell]

I agree that Chris's storyline especially 'Chris Crossed' should've been more than one episode. It would've been nice and made sense if more flashbacks of his future were shown explaining why he behaved as he did. It would also show how Wyatt became evil if Piper dying when Chris was 14 was part of how Wyatt turned down the wrong path because he was vulnerable then which an enemy took advantage of amongst other things perhaps.

[zachary]

Feb 5, 2022 18:03:53 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Feb 5, 2022 17:53:49 GMT -5 Elle Em said:

This makes sense if Prue still has to die when she originally does because of Shannen being fired, and I also like how Paige doesn't move into the Manor right away. During my most recent rewatch of that episode, it happened way, way too soon.

How would you resolve the Source storyline? I can understand not wanting to have Cole dragged into it, even though I personally enjoy that arc, but what about the original Source?

Easy. I'd have him be the one who kills Prue, not Shax, so when the sisters get rid of Shax, they actually got rid of the Source and the Source never possesses anyone.  It's my least-favorite storyline, so, of course, I'd leave it out.  It also gives us a chance to get Phoebs back, rather than PhoeMe.

The best part about this is we don't get stuck with Half-Face. This way Michael only has to play the original Source, not both him and Shax.

I also like that the show ends with everyone giving up their powers, but it's a bit too soon for me. I'd like Paige to be a witch longer and to have more to do, either with the Source or someone else very powerful, before they leave it all behind. Ideally I'd like for both Prue and Paige to each get three years as witches. 

Well, obviously we'd have to agree to disagree on that. If you want to continue into S5 (I don't...hence why I ended it.), go for it. Although I don't like any of these ideas, I'm curious to see what you'd do with it, especially again you have to remember - NO SHANNEN, SO NO PRUE!

Unless you're doing yours as ideas for a fanfic where you don't have to follow what happened BTS. Then what you're doing with both Prue and Paige makes a lot of sense, although if Prue survived I'd prefer Paige never being introduced - no need for her to become your Mary Sue.

I honestly love both of your ideas! Y'all came up with some truly game-changing plotlines. I can't say which one I'd prefer, because I'd honestly be satisfied with how they both end. 

Either drag the story out, using long-dramatic, serial episodes. 

Or keep it short and simple and end it at the end of S4 with the AOD's offer. The only thing I'd be sad about would be Paige giving up her powers after just getting them- but maybe she could continue her whitelighter duties! 

Either way, both of y'all's theories are great!