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Post by Sandra on Apr 15, 2022 5:46:50 GMT -5
Inspires by the recent debates of Shannen being asked back. I came up with this thread.
THE WHAT IF SCENARIO:
It's May 2001. Brad Kern and Aaron Spelling have a change of heart. Brad Kern contacts Shannen about Season 4. They're going to kill off Prue Halliwell. He wants her back in Season 4 to properly bring closure to Prue. While also passing the torch onto new sister Paige.
Shannen is given a sweet deal. She agrees to take part in the opening two hour episode of S4 which will result in Prue's on-screen death. With the option to direct a couple of episodes in S4. She's also given an additional appearance later in S4 as part of her new contract.
CHARMED CAFE CHALLENGE:
The power is in your hands fellow Charmed Cafe members. How would you write the start of Season 4 if Shannen Doherty was brought back for closure while passing the Torch to Rose McGowan.
And what additional episode appearance later in Season 4 would you have featured Prue in. In whatever capacity. BUT, it must be a cameo.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 15, 2022 17:29:02 GMT -5
For me that's easy and almost cheating. I'd just use Shining_Allure's "The Story of Prue's Death". Not positive if it fits your rules - there's probably a number of scenes that would be left out because they're not Shannen cameos - unless you only meant cameos in future episodes, which I wouldn't want, because this is the TV movie that I would've loved to see end "Charmed" and save the rest for the sequel.
There's another version, but it doesn't make me cry the way this one does. Especially because this is the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, I love including that music.
I hate how they stick the ad for the other version in the middle of the credits. If anyone can tell me how to get it out of the way, that would be great.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Apr 15, 2022 23:07:34 GMT -5
For me that's easy and almost cheating. I'd just use Shining_Allure's "The Story of Prue's Death". Not positive if it fits your rules - there's probably a number of scenes that would be left out because they're not Shannen cameos - unless you only meant cameos in future episodes, which I wouldn't want, because this is the TV movie that I would've loved to see end "Charmed" and save the rest for the sequel. There's another version, but it doesn't make me cry the way this one does. Especially because this is the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, I love including that music. I hate how they stick the ad for the other version in the middle of the credits. If anyone can tell me how to get it out of the way, that would be great. I would have loved the last scene; Prue going to her sisters bedrooms and kissing them on the forehead, saying goodbye to each of them individually with what she admired the most about them, then meeting Grams and Patty in the attic with them guiding her into the Afterlife. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 16, 2022 1:42:45 GMT -5
If Prue died in season 4's "Charmed Again" it would've been saving Paige.
The Oracle gets a vision that one sister will die and another will take their place reconstituting the power of three so the Source puts a hit out on Paige before her powers are activated to stop that happening.
He and viewers don't know she's part white lighter until she orbs on top of the helipad.
Phoebe sees a vision of that and the sisters work on saving the woman.
Their powers don't work properly for some reason which they want to know why even though Phoebe got the premonition on Paige.
Over the course of two hours, they find out Paige isn't a newly formed white lighter but their sister from Grams and Patty's ghosts, and the reason why she was hidden from the girls, that being to protect Paige from what would occur and make sure the P03 existed which it wouldn't have had Paige lived with Prue, Piper, and Phoebe because of the prophecy and the fact the sisters individual powers aren't currently working correctly which the Elders knew about as well.
They sent Phoebe the vision to save Paige being why she received that okay.
Prue saves Paige from Shax before the P03 reconstitutes in the latter half of the second hour but Piper, Phoebe, and Paige only defeat the demon and do not properly vanquish him because the family bond hasn't formed yet which occurs later on.
I would either have Prue come back as a ghost once Piper and Phoebe have accepted her death whether that's with Prue saying she's the one now flipping the book of shadows or in some other capacity otherwise via flashback on what would've been Prue's birthday when the sisters remember her.
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Post by goldeneye049 on Apr 18, 2022 4:03:25 GMT -5
As I've said many times, I wish Paige had her own Warren bloodline power. Probably divination which is weaker than premonitions. I accept the power to orb but only teleportation. I wish the Angel of Death had told Prue that one of the three sisters had to die, which is why Piper died. They must save Phoebe from hell quickly where she will be killed by the Source. Prue won't tell her sisters and will have planned to die. They will learn the presence of Paige who will be attacked by demons. The sisters will make a Power of Three Blessed Protection Amulet for Paige to wear. Prue will attack the Red Source alone and prevent her sisters from intervening. It would be a fight to the death and Prue will have her own page in the Book of Shadows like Brianna.
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Post by forbuss on Apr 18, 2022 12:34:51 GMT -5
CHARMED CAFE CHALLENGE:
The power is in your hands fellow Charmed Cafe members. How would you write the start of Season 4 if Shannen Doherty was brought back for closure while passing the Torch to Rose McGowan. And what additional episode appearance later in Season 4 would you have featured Prue in. In whatever capacity. BUT, it must be a cameo. I've never really wrote fan fiction... But I did have an idea about this that I posted sometime in the last few years (not sure where). I will expand upon this here. Prue would still die in "All Hell Breaks Loose" - but there would have been another episode after AHBL and Charmed Again where the Angel of Destiny came to Prue and told her she was never meant to be a Charmed One. They would explain that they had a fourth sister - a fellow sister witch - these three were destined to be the true Charmed Ones. Prue would be destined to create a better world for witches, white lighters, and the rest of the (good) magical community. The Angel of Destiny would have then told Prue that her destiny is to watch over and protect all witches as the leader of the Elders who had been problematic and short sighted in the past. The rest of "Charmed Again" would have played out similarly, only Prue would have came down with Grams and Patty to explain about her new destiny and theirs. Prue would then tell the sisters that she is busy getting used to life "up there" and her new duties as leader of the Elders. The sisters would discover Paige with Prue's help and the Charmed Ones would be reconstituted. The episode would end with Prue telling her three sisters that she wouldn't be able to visit often, but that she loves them and is always watching over them. This would allow Shannen to come back like Patty/Grams - maybe once a season or so. What do you all think about this? Genuinely curious to know (haha). |
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Post by Sandra on Apr 21, 2022 5:09:49 GMT -5
For me that's easy and almost cheating. I'd just use Shining_Allure's "The Story of Prue's Death". Not positive if it fits your rules - there's probably a number of scenes that would be left out because they're not Shannen cameos - unless you only meant cameos in future episodes, which I wouldn't want, because this is the TV movie that I would've loved to see end "Charmed" and save the rest for the sequel. There's another version, but it doesn't make me cry the way this one does. Especially because this is the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, I love including that music. I hate how they stick the ad for the other version in the middle of the credits. If anyone can tell me how to get it out of the way, that would be great. That would be a great one wouldn't it. I know the other version you're talking about. It was okay but more felt like bragging about better special effects than telling a story. To answer your question. The cameo was meant for an additional appearance later in S4. But those videos do fit my rules. If it's the story in them you'd want used to bring closure to Prue's character. I don't understand what's so bad about the Titanic music. It seems to be the most hated part of the original video from reviewer's. And it is the anniversary of the sinking of the ship. I'm not sure how to get rid of the ads sadly. Only solution might be to pay for Youtube premium. Which stops ads showing. But I don't know. |
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Post by Sandra on Apr 21, 2022 5:12:24 GMT -5
For me that's easy and almost cheating. I'd just use Shining_Allure's "The Story of Prue's Death". Not positive if it fits your rules - there's probably a number of scenes that would be left out because they're not Shannen cameos - unless you only meant cameos in future episodes, which I wouldn't want, because this is the TV movie that I would've loved to see end "Charmed" and save the rest for the sequel. There's another version, but it doesn't make me cry the way this one does. Especially because this is the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, I love including that music. I hate how they stick the ad for the other version in the middle of the credits. If anyone can tell me how to get it out of the way, that would be great. I would have loved the last scene; Prue going to her sisters bedrooms and kissing them on the forehead, saying goodbye to each of them individually with what she admired the most about them, then meeting Grams and Patty in the attic with them guiding her into the Afterlife. That would make really great scenes. I'm sure I'd have a box of tissues beside me crying through it all. Then once Prue goes into the afterlife or just as she's about to go. Cue the music and clips of Prue through the years. LATER: Esmeralda. I re-watched those videos for the first time in nine years. I was already crying through the tribute of Prue with clips. When the Titanic music got louder showing more photos. I cried more. Just shows you how impactful the music choice was. Why does so many hate it. It's beautiful music. I love the song just as much as this instrumental music. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Apr 21, 2022 21:14:11 GMT -5
I would have loved the last scene; Prue going to her sisters bedrooms and kissing them on the forehead, saying goodbye to each of them individually with what she admired the most about them, then meeting Grams and Patty in the attic with them guiding her into the Afterlife. That would make really great scenes. I'm sure I'd have a box of tissues beside me crying through it all. Then once Prue goes into the afterlife or just as she's about to go. Cue the music and clips of Prue through the years. LATER: Esmeralda. I re-watched those videos for the first time in nine years. I was already crying through the tribute of Prue with clips. When the Titanic music got louder showing more photos. I cried more. Just shows you how impactful the music choice was. Why does so many hate it. It's beautiful music. I love the song just as much as this instrumental music. It sucks that we didn't even get a final moment with Prue, Piper and Phoebe, I will always stand by the idea that Prue should have died facing the Source, and that her final scene should have been what I previously stated. I think it should have gone like; After Prue says goodbye to everyone when they are asleep, she goes into the embrace of her grandmother and mother, then turns around and takes a deep breath in and says "farewell my sisters" then we get the Prue throughout the years, we get a different credits song. |
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Post by Sandra on Apr 22, 2022 22:21:46 GMT -5
That would make really great scenes. I'm sure I'd have a box of tissues beside me crying through it all. Then once Prue goes into the afterlife or just as she's about to go. Cue the music and clips of Prue through the years. LATER: Esmeralda. I re-watched those videos for the first time in nine years. I was already crying through the tribute of Prue with clips. When the Titanic music got louder showing more photos. I cried more. Just shows you how impactful the music choice was. Why does so many hate it. It's beautiful music. I love the song just as much as this instrumental music. It sucks that we didn't even get a final moment with Prue, Piper and Phoebe, I will always stand by the idea that Prue should have died facing the Source, and that her final scene should have been what I previously stated. I think it should have gone like; After Prue says goodbye to everyone when they are asleep, she goes into the embrace of her grandmother and mother, then turns around and takes a deep breath in and says "farewell my sisters" then we get the Prue throughout the years, we get a different credits song. All of that sounds great. I'd have enjoyed something like that than what we got.
I didn't like that Prue died saving that dumb doctor.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Apr 23, 2022 9:25:14 GMT -5
It sucks that we didn't even get a final moment with Prue, Piper and Phoebe, I will always stand by the idea that Prue should have died facing the Source, and that her final scene should have been what I previously stated. I think it should have gone like; After Prue says goodbye to everyone when they are asleep, she goes into the embrace of her grandmother and mother, then turns around and takes a deep breath in and says "farewell my sisters" then we get the Prue throughout the years, we get a different credits song. All of that sounds great. I'd have enjoyed something like that than what we got.
I didn't like that Prue died saving that dumb doctor.
Thank you, vanquishing the Source would have been bittersweet for her sisters, on one hand, they got rid of The Source of All Evil but they lost their sister. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 23, 2022 10:11:11 GMT -5
All of that sounds great. I'd have enjoyed something like that than what we got.
I didn't like that Prue died saving that dumb doctor.
Thank you, vanquishing the Source would have been bittersweet for her sisters, on one hand, they got rid of The Source of All Evil but they lost their sister. It would've, yes, but I'd have much preferred that over Paige being able to do it and then later forget that she did it (and Piper and Phoebe also forgetting she was part of it - that SO should've been BILLIE's line, not Paige's!) and let us still use Michael's version of the Source - so much scarier than Half-face! And if THAT's when the Source's powers went into Cole, it would've started S4 on a much scarier note, especially if they didn't introduce Paige until halfway through S4! |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Apr 23, 2022 22:05:10 GMT -5
Thank you, vanquishing the Source would have been bittersweet for her sisters, on one hand, they got rid of The Source of All Evil but they lost their sister. It would've, yes, but I'd have much preferred that over Paige being able to do it and then later forget that she did it (and Piper and Phoebe also forgetting she was part of it - that SO should've been BILLIE's line, not Paige's!) and let us still use Michael's version of the Source - so much scarier than Half-face! And if THAT's when the Source's powers went into Cole, it would've started S4 on a much scarier note, especially if they didn't introduce Paige until halfway through S4! I loved that better for the Cole is the Source storyline than what we got. |
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Post by Emmett on May 6, 2022 21:13:47 GMT -5
It would've, yes, but I'd have much preferred that over Paige being able to do it and then later forget that she did it (and Piper and Phoebe also forgetting she was part of it - that SO should've been BILLIE's line, not Paige's!) and let us still use Michael's version of the Source - so much scarier than Half-face! And if THAT's when the Source's powers went into Cole, it would've started S4 on a much scarier note, especially if they didn't introduce Paige until halfway through S4! I loved that better for the Cole is the Source storyline than what we got. All these ideas you came up with, would have been much better than what we got. I especially love Prue's death being the cost of vanquishing the Source. Much more dramatic than what we got. S4 would have started on a way scarier note with the Source's powers going into Cole. \ |
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Post by Sandra on May 31, 2022 19:38:56 GMT -5
I loved that better for the Cole is the Source storyline than what we got. All these ideas you came up with, would have been much better than what we got. I especially love Prue's death being the cost of vanquishing the Source. Much more dramatic than what we got. S4 would have started on a way scarier note with the Source's powers going into Cole. It would be very interesting to see play out. I'll always wonder what S4 would have been like if Shannen wasn't fired. Especially because she was let go right in the middle of big storylines set up for S4. I really feel like if things happened organically and they knew when S4 started filming that Shannen wanted to leave at the end. They'd plan things out better with The Source vanquished/Prue dies end of S4. So S5 would be about Paige and the new Power of Three. Without Cole and the Source being dragged into her introduction season. It would be a better bridge between Prue seasons and Paige's seasons. If Paige was introduced as a recurring guest star in the back-half of S4 that would be okay, before they learn she's a Charmed One and Halliwell in S5. It could be cool if she was closest or had the most interaction with Prue, so her appearing at Prue's funeral at the start of S5, would feel more organic since she knew her. I do wonder how Piper's pregnancy would play out in a set-up like this. I personally wouldn't have minded if it wasn't even apart of S5 if its Paige's first season as part of the Power of Three and saved for S6 when Holly was pregnant. |
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