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Post by Aaeiyn on Jun 11, 2022 22:45:36 GMT -5
Ty! Here's Curtis' episodes (according to the credits) that he's written. I really only like 3 of them. I gotta be in the right mood for Brain Drain: Written by Curtis Kheel (Teleplay & Story) S3E21 Look Who's Barking S4E7 Brain Drain S4E14 The Three Faces of Phoebe S4E18 Bite Me S5E3 Happily Ever After S5E10 Y Tu Mummy Tambien S5E17 Lucky Charmed S5E22 Oh My Goddess, Pt 1 S6E7 Soul Survivor S6E15 I Dream of Phoebe S6E23 It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 2 S7E8 Charmed Noir S7E14 Carpe Demon S7E21 Death Becomes Them |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 11, 2022 22:46:15 GMT -5
I wish the scene was longer. I would've loved to see Piper seeing the three home intruders and blowing them up. Such a missed opportunity at ending the reboot on a high and positive note. ROTFLMFAO!!! OMG, Cyma! That would've been PERFECT! I hope something like that shows up on YouTube soon! |
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Post by CharmedFaith on Jun 11, 2022 22:47:41 GMT -5
He's from the original show and thus an original writer. When we get into semantics of original of the original than...yeah thats a different story. IK that's what Reddit wanted me to think that because people worked on the original show that makes them an "original writer" sorry, that's not how this works. He's a writer or worked on the original show, yes. Was he an original writer? No. As I said, when we get into the semantics of it all, he isnt the original writer. He worked on the original show for majority of its run so there's no need for him to say "as a writer from S3-8 of the original charmed". It's tedious at best. Him and fans going off on the reboot when they are dealing with new showrunners trying to right the wrongs of the first two has grown exhausting. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 11, 2022 22:49:41 GMT -5
I wish the scene was longer. I would've loved to see Piper seeing the three home intruders and blowing them up. Such a missed opportunity at ending the reboot on a high and positive note.  I'd likely still not watch it, but I'd certainly look at the gifs online. LOL I'm with him below: (although I'm sure he means original writer as in working on Classic Charmed. He wasn't an original writer from S1 of Classic)  Nope, but he did write 14 Charmed episodes between 2001-2005. Not my favorite period, but at least he can speak a little for what Classic Charmed thinks of that so-called nod to Classic Charmed. |
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Post by Sandra on Jun 11, 2022 22:51:01 GMT -5
Ty! Here's Curtis' episodes (according to the credits) that he's written. I really only like 3 of them. I gotta be in the right mood for Brain Drain: Written by Curtis Kheel (Teleplay & Story) S3E21 Look Who's Barking S4E7 Brain DrainS4E14 The Three Faces of Phoebe S4E18 Bite Me S5E3 Happily Ever After S5E10 Y Tu Mummy Tambien S5E17 Lucky Charmed S5E22 Oh My Goddess, Pt 1 S6E7 Soul Survivor S6E15 I Dream of PhoebeS6E23 It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 2 S7E8 Charmed NoirS7E14 Carpe Demon S7E21 Death Becomes Them Thanks.  I can only think of three among his I like. I just came across this thread: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/11871/who-best-writers-charmed?page=2I haven't replied in it yet. But when you brought up this, I was wondering if one existed already. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 11, 2022 22:52:19 GMT -5
IK that's what Reddit wanted me to think that because people worked on the original show that makes them an "original writer" sorry, that's not how this works. He's a writer or worked on the original show, yes. Was he an original writer? No. As I said, when we get into the semantics of it all, he isnt the original writer. He worked on the original show for majority of its run so there's no need for him to say "as a writer from S3-8 of the original charmed". It's tedious at best. Him and fans going off on the reboot when they are dealing with new showrunners trying to right the wrongs of the first two has grown exhausting. I think by "original" he meant the original Charmed - aka Classic Charmed. In that case he's right. But you're right that he should've said "I was a Classic Charmed writer." |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jun 11, 2022 22:54:10 GMT -5
As I said, when we get into the semantics of it all, he isnt the original writer. He worked on the original show for majority of its run so there's no need for him to say "as a writer from S3-8 of the original charmed". It's tedious at best. Can just say "as a writer from the original Charmed". Regardless, most Charmed fans don't even like the majority of his episodes, anyway. He has like 4 episodes within the S3-S4 umbrella that Reddit likes and most of them only like Brain Drain. So how much do people really like him as a writer, anyway? |
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Post by Sandra on Jun 11, 2022 22:59:56 GMT -5
As I said, when we get into the semantics of it all, he isnt the original writer. He worked on the original show for majority of its run so there's no need for him to say "as a writer from S3-8 of the original charmed". It's tedious at best. Can just say "as a writer from the original Charmed". Regardless, most Charmed fans don't even like the majority of his episodes, anyway. He has like 4 episodes within the S3-S4 umbrella that Reddit likes and most of them only like Brain Drain. So how much do people really like him as a writer, anyway? He's hardly my favorite writer. I just did the poll seeing what episodes each one wrote. Sheryl, Chris and Zack won out. Only ones I could select more than 3 episodes. I don't particularly like most of his episodes, he ended up writing some of my least favorites. Three Faces of Phoebe, Oh My Goddess & It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 2 being ones I hate. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jun 11, 2022 23:01:49 GMT -5
He's hardly my favorite writer. I just did the poll seeing what episodes each one wrote. Sheryl, Chris and Zack won out. Only ones I could select more than 3 episodes. I don't particularly like most of his episodes, he ended up writing some of my least favorites. Three Faces of Phoebe, Oh My Goddess & It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 2 being ones I hate. I'm one of the few who actually likes Happily Ever After because of the bonding moment between Paige & Grams. Other than that, most Charmed fans IK (including Reddit) HATE that episode LOL |
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Post by Emmett on Jun 11, 2022 23:40:23 GMT -5
I wish the scene was longer. I would've loved to see Piper seeing the three home intruders and blowing them up. Such a missed opportunity at ending the reboot on a high and positive note. ROTFLMFAO!!! OMG, Cyma! That would've been PERFECT! I hope something like that shows up on YouTube soon! I'm sure someone will make a Youtube video soon. 
Here's what I'd imagine happening the second they enter.
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Post by cyma on Jun 12, 2022 7:28:31 GMT -5
I wish the scene was longer. I would've loved to see Piper seeing the three home intruders and blowing them up. Such a missed opportunity at ending the reboot on a high and positive note. ROTFLMFAO!!! OMG, Cyma! That would've been PERFECT! I hope something like that shows up on YouTube soon! I also wouldn't mind seeing someone do the CGI effect on these three of what Grams did in the 70s episode on seeing her adult granddaughters for the first time. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 12, 2022 7:38:07 GMT -5
ROTFLMFAO!!! OMG, Cyma! That would've been PERFECT! I hope something like that shows up on YouTube soon! I also wouldn't mind seeing someone do the CGI effect on these three of what Grams did in the 70s episode on seeing her adult granddaughters for the first time. Oh, WOW! That would be a lot of fun, too! But I think I would prefer if someone could take what happened in 'Kill Billie, Vol 2' to vanquish the rip-off Charmed Ones! LATER: Ooo, I checked out YouTube and found one! How I wish the rip-off had ended like THIS: Ones like this I don't mind watching one bit! |
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Post by Olga Halliwell on Jun 12, 2022 15:46:04 GMT -5
I also wouldn't mind seeing someone do the CGI effect on these three of what Grams did in the 70s episode on seeing her adult granddaughters for the first time. Oh, WOW! That would be a lot of fun, too! But I think I would prefer if someone could take what happened in 'Kill Billie, Vol 2' to vanquish the rip-off Charmed Ones! LATER: Ooo, I checked out YouTube and found one! How I wish the rip-off had ended like THIS: Ones like this I don't mind watching one bit! Got a good laugh Es. Also smiled because it included the original three and Prue. |
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Post by zachary on Jun 12, 2022 21:53:28 GMT -5
Oh, WOW! That would be a lot of fun, too! But I think I would prefer if someone could take what happened in 'Kill Billie, Vol 2' to vanquish the rip-off Charmed Ones! LATER: Ooo, I checked out YouTube and found one! How I wish the rip-off had ended like THIS: Ones like this I don't mind watching one bit! Got a good laugh Es. Also smiled because it included the original three and Prue. |
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Post by Sandra on Jun 12, 2022 22:40:20 GMT -5
Got a good laugh Es. Also smiled because it included the original three and Prue. Me too. I personally want no more Charmed period. Just create a new witch series inspired by Charmed (but having nothing to do with it at all) in another ten years.
I just don't see a reunion at all, but MAYBE, one reunion which brings them together to talk about the show in a special for the 25th anniversary next year, if not then, then the 30th.
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Post by Emmett on Jun 12, 2022 22:48:30 GMT -5
Got a good laugh Es. Also smiled because it included the original three and Prue. This was HILARIOUS! A gem to watch. As a die-hard fan of the original, I did give the reboot a shot... Mistake, but I'm glad that there's nothing on TV about Charmed. Let's let it rest, and just enjoy the actresses and the story. Hopefully one day there can be a decent reunion with them ALL, but we all know how that goes. Me too. I personally want no more Charmed period. Just create a new witch series inspired by Charmed (but having nothing to do with it at all) in another ten years.
I just don't see a reunion at all, but MAYBE, one reunion which brings them together to talk about the show in a special for the 25th anniversary next year, if not then, then the 30th.
Yeah, I think letting the Charmed brand rest in peace is a good thing. I'm fine if the only new Charmed related stuff we get are just new novels and comics based on the original Classic series. I'd love a reunion like that, but I won't be holding my breath we'll get all the cast in the same room. |
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Post by Sandra on Jun 13, 2022 0:26:48 GMT -5
This was HILARIOUS! A gem to watch. As a die-hard fan of the original, I did give the reboot a shot... Mistake, but I'm glad that there's nothing on TV about Charmed. Let's let it rest, and just enjoy the actresses and the story. Hopefully one day there can be a decent reunion with them ALL, but we all know how that goes. Me too. I personally want no more Charmed period. Just create a new witch series inspired by Charmed (but having nothing to do with it at all) in another ten years.
I just don't see a reunion at all, but MAYBE, one reunion which brings them together to talk about the show in a special for the 25th anniversary next year, if not then, then the 30th.
Yeah, I think letting the Charmed brand rest in peace is a good thing. I'm fine if the only new Charmed related stuff we get are just new novels and comics based on the original Classic series. I'd love a reunion like that, but I won't be holding my breath we'll get all the cast in the same room. That's fine with me. Besides, I can find fanfics to keep me entertained. And so many television series that have come back with movies/reunions/revivals. So many of them have been disappointing, especially ones I've watched. It's hard to capture the magic some shows had back when they first aired. Let them stay where they belong. |
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Post by Prue's Feather on Jun 13, 2022 12:06:05 GMT -5
So… I actually liked the ending. Surprising, I know. But let me provide a fresh perspective on why I actually don’t think this is a bad ending, especially giving a bit more context behind the scene that the OP didn’t include with the video. I’ll begin with saying that I have not watched most of the reboot. The only episodes I really sat down and watched completely were the S3 finale (to compare how they sent off Macy with her death with how it was done with Prue), the S4 premiere (to see how they introduced the new “sister”—which I put in quotations specifically, as she’s not really their sister, though the story how she became “Charmed” wasn’t a bad one, I felt), and the series finale (namely, because I saw the promo for the episode on Twitter and saw the quick little flash of the Halliwell Manor being included in the episode, so naturally, my curiosity got the best of me and I had to see how it was going to be incorporated). Otherwise, I caught some random parts of a few other episodes from S3 and S4. Most of my general idea of what happened from this season is from checking the Charmed hashtag via Twitter when looking for OG Charmed content. So I may not have the full picture of what I’m about to explain about the ending scene, but I do think it’s worth looking at, in all this. I want to include a new video here, that shows a bit more of the ending than the original video link that was shared (no fault to the OP, as this was such fresh material at that point—This new video was posted later the next day after the episode had aired). As for some more context with the video... The note we see from a “Diana”? Diana was a whitelighter from the Halliwell’s universe, and she spoke of a powerful witch whose power of premonition grew to the point of her seeing the future of another universe—this witch, being heavily implied it was Phoebe. Also note the room Mel, Maggie, and Kaela (the three Charmed ones) are in briefly before walking through that portal. Those are all the VHS tapes from Phoebe, who, once she started having these premonitions of the reboot universe, copied the premonitions to VHS to help save the future of their universe. (The VHS tape thing was meant to be a nod to Phoebe’s love of old classic movies, though I do question why she wouldn’t have copied her premonitions over to DVD as a bit more of reliable technology if this was coming down to saving the world, but that’s a different conversation ;P) So that is my general understanding of some important details that happened prior to the series finale. But to any reboot fans that are on here and may see this post, please correct me if I’m wrong here with any of this, as this is just what I’ve gathered from Twitter! I also want to say, there were talks all of S4 (prior and during) that the reboot was going to venture into opening up a multiverse with OG Charmed. So this was not a random throw in at the end here. As another member explained in an earlier post in this thread, the writers designed this finale as both an ending to the show and a possible lead into a S5, where they wanted to explore more of this multiverse idea with bringing in more of the OG Charmed universe into the reboot, as they had no idea whether or not they would get renewed. Especially with the state of The CW at the moment. Now with a little more context, let me explain why I actually don’t mind the ending. Whether we liked it or not, OG Charmed was coming into the reboot universe in some way, shape, or form. (Which I know there were nods to it in earlier seasons, but for me, I always worried how specific they’d get.) So the open to interpretation ending, of what happens next after Mel, Maggie, and Kaela go into the Halliwell Manor? I like this. Because it’s not super specific. It leaves the audience imagining what could have been, and I’d rather that kind of ending than something really, really concrete that ties the two shows together. And yes, I do hope it stays like that, with no S5 being picked up at a different network, simply because I think of how confusing it would get later with any way of continuing Charmed (not necessarily in a show, but like books and such). I already don’t like accepting the Charmed comics as canon (which I don’t, only what happened on my TV screen is what I accept as “true” canon), so the idea of bringing in any OG characters into the reboot in a S5, would just really mess with me. Not to say I wished for their show to end, I’m not one of those people, but I just really didn’t want the two shows to get too intertwined. Knowing the part about Phoebe and the premonitions on VHS tapes that essentially helped the Vera-Danso Charmed Ones save their world, I feel like them going through the portal and coming into the Halliwell world was probably something that Phoebe also saw happening—and wanted to ensure that it did. Hence why Diana wanted them to go through the portal. I also think that Phoebe may have known they were coming that day, hence why that door was unlocked. So for me, I don’t feel like they were intruding, just walking in like that. But rather, I see it as a sign from Phoebe to them, to say that yes, we know you’re coming, and yes, we want you to come inside. Also, having just watched “Thank You For Not Morphing” last weekend with some of the Café members, I actually kind of found this “unlocked” door thing and them just letting themselves in a little humorous. Because when I watch “Thank You For Not Morphing”, I think of it as the episode of “Hey, the door was unlocked, so I let myself in!” with all the jokes how the front door was always open. And, of course, I couldn’t help thinking of Prue in the afterlife saying to Andy as the door closes behind Mel, Maggie, and Kaela (because yes, I do think it’s Prue who closed the door via her telekinesis from above): “It’s been 21 years since I passed, and Phoebe still can’t remember to lock the front door!” Just simply because Prue assumes it was Phoebe in “Thank You For Not Morphing” who forgot to lock the door before they went to the party and then her words to her before Phoebe ends up locking her in the laundry room, LOL:  So for me, the ending actually put a smile on my face. I’m not an avid follower of the reboot and don’t really consider myself a fan of it since I know so little about it, but I still enjoyed that last little piece. I think considering they only had 13 episodes to work with this season and how it was wrapped up with the uncertainty of what the future held, it was done well. And yes, I’ve gotten some laughs and giggles over the suggestions of what would happen next after Mel, Maggie, and Kaela walk into the Manor via here, Reddit, and Twitter, but rather than be so negative towards their ending, I wanted to provide a more positive view on it, of how I saw it, especially knowing how Phoebe was tied into it leading up to the end. |
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Post by Prue's Feather on Jun 13, 2022 12:12:18 GMT -5
What a great way to pay homage to Classic Charmed, and the best way to end it on a very good note. Justice for Classic Charmed fans. Way to bring it full circle, for how much we were angry when they first came out with it. I'd likely still watch it, but I'd certainly look at the gifs online just for that shot to laugh at. It would be a very regularly used GIF or meme in the community. LOL I'm with him below: He seems childish and it's not a cute look. I also want to express my thoughts on this. This was completely uncalled for. I personally don’t find this funny at all. For starters, yes, I agree with all the discussion that his wording as “an original Charmed writer” was bad, because he’s making it sound like he was there since its inception, which is not true. So he should have phrased it differently, but maybe he ran out of Twitter characters and had to phrase it like that to get the whole message to fit, LOL. I know too well that’s a problem for me, in the rare occasion that I post something on Twitter. Also, technically, wouldn’t Piper NOT be able to blow them up, as they’re good witches and they’d be immune to her powers? Though, I suppose this is inconsistent in our Charmed, so who the hell knows ;P But in all seriousness, he shouldn’t have tweeted this. It’s one thing for the fans do to this and make cracks about “let’s have Piper blow them up once they walk into the Manor!”, but as a representative of the original Charmed, no matter when he started on the show and what seasons he was a part of, I think this was bad on his part, especially with adding the whole #CharmedReunionMovie. For one, that is not how you get a movie going. But the biggest takeaway from this, is that this is NOT at all a way to represent a show you were a part of. I agree with CharmedFaith here, when they say he sounds childish. Very immature on his part, especially knowing he’s currently writing for another show. Because not only does he look bad saying this, but what does this say about the original Charmed fanbase as a whole? I know there are many OG fans that don’t like the reboot. That’s okay. But there are plenty who like both shows. So when things like this continue to persist, it just creates more animosity and divide between the OG and reboot fans, especially so among those who like both shows. It’s sad to see. It even reminds me of seeing the divide between Prue era and Paige era fans, with the later seasons getting dragged through the mud so much because they have a different tone than the earlier seasons, and fans of the later seasons feeling alienated for simply liking those seasons more. Which is also upsetting to see. In the end, I found Kheel’s tweet disrespectful. I understand how many of the original actresses weren’t necessarily happy with how this reboot was approached. And I know there were some BTS things that were done/said by both the original Charmed cast and the reboot cast towards one another that I feel spiraled a little out of control. But by now, I think we can all do better. Was this reboot the one I would have imagined and wanted? No. But I’m not going to tear it apart, especially when I haven’t seen enough of it to fairly judge it, and disrespect the fans just because I’m not necessarily happy we didn’t see something different with a Charmed revival. By this point, if you don’t like it, just leave it alone and let it be. (And just to note, I’m not directing this at anybody on here. I’m more so frustrated with what I have seen elsewhere, namely Twitter, with the divide between OG and reboot fans.) I think Shannen has said it best, whenever fans bring up the topic of the reboot at conventions: “It may not be your Charmed, but it may be someone else’s Charmed.” I really think this is the best way to look at it. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jun 13, 2022 12:27:46 GMT -5
Yeah, apparently he tweeted out something else, and Reddit is blindly soaking it all in. I just find it odd that they want to praise him for trashing the writing of the Reboot, when (as I said before and have been saying) his own writing didn't do much to satisfy the fans, either. So, he's not really one to talk.
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