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Post by goldeneye049 on Jul 11, 2022 6:51:56 GMT -5
In the episode Titans, Paige dreams. Do you think this is her original untapped wicca power? I never understood why Phoebe didn't have those dreams in the episode. 🤔
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Post by sonja on Jul 11, 2022 13:10:38 GMT -5
I just watched that episode today and was wondering the same thing. Also, her "instinct" leading her so many times in season 5 and even 4 is something that would suit Phoebe's power way more. I always wondered why they gave Paige that.
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Post by Emmett on Jul 11, 2022 17:21:28 GMT -5
It was so off. I don't understand why Phoebe wouldn't have had those dreams. It would be an advancement of her premonitions if she starting having them in her dreams.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Jul 11, 2022 20:13:01 GMT -5
It made zero reason why they didnt give that plot to Phoebe. It was like they just wanted to make Paige more important to the story.
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Post by Sandra on Jul 11, 2022 22:26:33 GMT -5
That would've been a great story for Phoebe to have not just because it fitted her powers. Paige said in the episode, that she hadn't been sleeping for a while. That was what she'd been preparing for all year. I really wished Phoebe's arc on S5 shifted her back into her love of magic.
I wonder if Paige and Phoebe should've switched storylines. Paige gets the promotion and success with her work, while Phoebe quit or temporarily leaves Bay Mirror to soul search like Paige did in S5. I didn't have a problem with Phoebe working at the newspaper (even though that wasn't even what she studied in college. She didn't take journalism classes). She just got too famous too fast. She should've started out at the bottom and worked her way up. It never sits well with me how she even got the job in the first place.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jul 12, 2022 10:04:57 GMT -5
That would've been a great story for Phoebe to have not just because it fitted her powers. Paige said in the episode, that she hadn't been sleeping for a while. That was what she'd been preparing for all year. I really wished Phoebe's arc on S5 shifted her back into her love of magic. I wonder if Paige and Phoebe should've switched storylines. Paige gets the promotion and success with her work, while Phoebe quit or temporarily leaves Bay Mirror to soul search like Paige did in S5. I didn't have a problem with Phoebe working at the newspaper (even though that wasn't even what she studied in college. She didn't take journalism classes). She just got too famous too fast. She should've started out at the bottom and worked her way up. It never sits well with me how she even got the job in the first place. I would have loved that better than what was written, especially after Prue's death, I could actually see her leaving work and taking temporary jobs as a way to contribute financially to the household.
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Post by Sandra on Jul 13, 2022 2:41:15 GMT -5
That would've been a great story for Phoebe to have not just because it fitted her powers. Paige said in the episode, that she hadn't been sleeping for a while. That was what she'd been preparing for all year. I really wished Phoebe's arc on S5 shifted her back into her love of magic. I wonder if Paige and Phoebe should've switched storylines. Paige gets the promotion and success with her work, while Phoebe quit or temporarily leaves Bay Mirror to soul search like Paige did in S5. I didn't have a problem with Phoebe working at the newspaper (even though that wasn't even what she studied in college. She didn't take journalism classes). She just got too famous too fast. She should've started out at the bottom and worked her way up. It never sits well with me how she even got the job in the first place. I would have loved that better than what was written, especially after Prue's death, I could actually see her leaving work and taking temporary jobs as a way to contribute financially to the household. I can see her doing that. Maybe the temp jobs Paige had in S6 should've been Phoebe's plotlines.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 13, 2022 6:30:37 GMT -5
I just watched that episode today and was wondering the same thing. Also, her "instinct" leading her so many times in season 5 and even 4 is something that would suit Phoebe's power way more. I always wondered why they gave Paige that. I agree that the premonition dream really should've been Phoebe's, but I disagree about her being able to sense evil. That always sounded like a whitelighter power to me, and since I think Paige is a living whitelighter, not a witch, it's one that should indeed be hers. But that's just my opinion. I can see why others might think differently.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jul 13, 2022 8:09:48 GMT -5
I just watched that episode today and was wondering the same thing. Also, her "instinct" leading her so many times in season 5 and even 4 is something that would suit Phoebe's power way more. I always wondered why they gave Paige that. I agree that the premonition dream really should've been Phoebe's, but I disagree about her being able to sense evil. That always sounded like a whitelighter power to me, and since I think Paige is a living whitelighter, not a witch, it's one that should indeed be hers. But that's just my opinion. I can see why others might think differently. I like that, it also would be great to see the first witch-whitelighter hybrid actually have powers that other witches and whitelighters don't have.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 13, 2022 19:48:31 GMT -5
I agree that the premonition dream really should've been Phoebe's, but I disagree about her being able to sense evil. That always sounded like a whitelighter power to me, and since I think Paige is a living whitelighter, not a witch, it's one that should indeed be hers. But that's just my opinion. I can see why others might think differently. I like that, it also would be great to see the first witch-whitelighter hybrid actually have powers that other witches and whitelighters don't have. But I don't think she's the first witch-whitelighter hybrid - I think that's Wyatt. If she WAS a witch/whitelighter her power would be the same as Chris', who, like Wyatt, is definitely a witch/whitelighter because he has both a witch power (TK, just like Prue's...) and a whitelighter (orbin). Paige only has whitelighter powers. Her so-called hybrid power is just a whitelighter version of TK. She's Charmed and can cast spells because she's a Warren. But she's not a witch.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Jul 13, 2022 19:55:51 GMT -5
Paiges mother is a witch. Her father is a whitelighter. She's a witch/whitelighter hybrid.
It's very clear that it was meant for her TKO to be something that only she could do and make her special. They later decided against that route of course. But not every Witchlighter is going to be manifesting powers the same. Some would have a power blended with the two, some would have one or the other.
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Post by goldeneye049 on Jul 14, 2022 0:41:18 GMT -5
The most annoying thing is that in her second episode. Under the Source's influence, Paige uses her telekinesis like Prue and shatters the mirror. Never after that
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jul 14, 2022 2:04:14 GMT -5
The most annoying thing is that in her second episode. Under the Source's influence, Paige uses her telekinesis like Prue and shatters the mirror. Never after that It (actually) looked like a replica of Piper's exploding power (IMO), but IK what you mean. My theory is, the writers probably felt they were making her too OP, so they toned her down.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jul 14, 2022 3:44:36 GMT -5
I like that, it also would be great to see the first witch-whitelighter hybrid actually have powers that other witches and whitelighters don't have. But I don't think she's the first witch-whitelighter hybrid - I think that's Wyatt. If she WAS a witch/whitelighter her power would be the same as Chris', who, like Wyatt, is definitely a witch/whitelighter because he has both a witch power (TK, just like Prue's...) and a whitelighter (orbin). Paige only has whitelighter powers. Her so-called hybrid power is just a whitelighter version of TK. She's Charmed and can cast spells because she's a Warren. But she's not a witch. Understandable. I wish Paige was shown to be a witch-whitelighter hybrid.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 14, 2022 6:32:52 GMT -5
But I don't think she's the first witch-whitelighter hybrid - I think that's Wyatt. If she WAS a witch/whitelighter her power would be the same as Chris', who, like Wyatt, is definitely a witch/whitelighter because he has both a witch power (TK, just like Prue's...) and a whitelighter (orbing). Paige only has whitelighter powers. Her so-called hybrid power is just a whitelighter version of TK. She's Charmed and can cast spells because she's a Warren. But she's not a witch. Understandable. I wish Paige was shown to be a witch-whitelighter hybrid. I'm glad she wasn't. I prefer people not having whitelighter powers until they're a full whitelighter after they're dead. I'd prefer she (and Wyatt and Chris) was just a witch with only TK exactly like Prue's. I hate S4-8 making having a whitelighter for a father be more important than having a Warren for a mother. But again, that's just me.
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Post by zachary on Jul 14, 2022 19:17:54 GMT -5
I would have loved that better than what was written, especially after Prue's death, I could actually see her leaving work and taking temporary jobs as a way to contribute financially to the household. I can see her doing that. Maybe the temp jobs Paige had in S6 should've been Phoebe's plotlines. This. This this this this this this this.
That would've spun the ENTIRE show around and would've provided an amazing emotional shift. Phoebe leaving the Bay Mirror and focusing on her craft and the whole Goddess storyline, and Paige receiving a promotion at her social work job, which I hate that she left by the way, so her returning/being promoted would've been the cherry on top of a perfect season.
Paiges mother is a witch. Her father is a whitelighter. She's a witch/whitelighter hybrid. It's very clear that it was meant for her TKO to be something that only she could do and make her special. They later decided against that route of course. But not every Witchlighter is going to be manifesting powers the same. Some would have a power blended with the two, some would have one or the other. Also heavily agree to this. It's very clear that Paige is half and half, they even clarify that in the first episode of season 4. Yes, it's only "theorized" by Phoebe and Piper that the whitelighter in her makes the telekinesis work differently, but everyone should know that the dialogue was the writer's way of explaining her genetics and such. In regards to half-breeds, Paige should've been the only one. I think Wyatt should've been just a witch, because half and halves really muddied the lore of the show. If anything, I can see Wyatt just having the healing power he exhibited during the mermaid episode while Piper was still pregnant, that would've been great if it was just that; a witch who can heal. But I don't think she's the first witch-whitelighter hybrid - I think that's Wyatt. If she WAS a witch/whitelighter her power would be the same as Chris', who, like Wyatt, is definitely a witch/whitelighter because he has both a witch power (TK, just like Prue's...) and a whitelighter (orbin). Paige only has whitelighter powers. Her so-called hybrid power is just a whitelighter version of TK. She's Charmed and can cast spells because she's a Warren. But she's not a witch. I can see where you're coming from. I think it would've been best if Paige was simply what Grams called her in the 60's episode; a witch who can orb. Wyatt should've been just a witch who can heal, at least in my opinion!
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 14, 2022 20:14:50 GMT -5
I LOVE Grams' idea that she was a witch who could orb. If orbing was her only power, that would be perfect! I'd want Chris to be a witch who could orb, too. And Wyatt, a witch who could heal but not orb? Oh, yes! Just witches who inherited one of their father's power? Oh, yes, perfect!
If only...
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jul 14, 2022 22:15:52 GMT -5
Understandable. I wish Paige was shown to be a witch-whitelighter hybrid. I'm glad she wasn't. I prefer people not having whitelighter powers until they're a full whitelighter after they're dead. I'd prefer she (and Wyatt and Chris) was just a witch with only TK exactly like Prue's. I hate S4-8 making having a whitelighter for a father be more important than having a Warren for a mother. But again, that's just me. I agree with you about that, The Warren Line should have been more important than what was represented.
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Post by Katie Warren on Jul 14, 2022 22:33:15 GMT -5
I'm glad she wasn't. I prefer people not having whitelighter powers until they're a full whitelighter after they're dead. I'd prefer she (and Wyatt and Chris) was just a witch with only TK exactly like Prue's. I hate S4-8 making having a whitelighter for a father be more important than having a Warren for a mother. But again, that's just me. I agree with you about that, The Warren Line should have been more important than what was represented. Completely agree. They became less important as time went on.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jul 14, 2022 23:08:55 GMT -5
I agree with you about that, The Warren Line should have been more important than what was represented. Completely agree. They became less important as time went on. Like how cool would it have been if Piper, Paige and Phoebe called upon the Warren Line in the finale battle? Prue would be the one who says the spell to get rid of the Hollow from the fight, the sisters call upon their ancestors and they help fight the Triad, Ultimate Power and Dumian.
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