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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 3, 2024 18:34:33 GMT -5
So is this an ego problem? Always. |
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Post by aggiefan12 on Feb 3, 2024 18:44:05 GMT -5
So is this an ego problem? Always. Figures. |
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Post by zack on Feb 3, 2024 18:59:15 GMT -5
 This is getting messy. Holly coming at Alyssa's claim for why they are not speaking. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 3, 2024 19:03:38 GMT -5
This is getting messy. Holly coming at Alyssa's claim for why they are not speaking. I don't have Twitter...or "X". Anyone got the full convo?  |
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Post by zack on Feb 3, 2024 19:15:25 GMT -5
This is getting messy. Holly coming at Alyssa's claim for why they are not speaking. I don't have Twitter...or "X". Anyone got the full convo? This is what Holly is calling bullsh** For you and anyone else that are confused as to what Holly is responding to this is what Alyssa said that got Holly mad.  |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 3, 2024 19:30:17 GMT -5
Honestly, Holly needs to hop off Twitter. Not worth wasting time on this silliness. I agree with rebooted , now. Holly be a little instigator. |
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Post by lunchking on Feb 3, 2024 19:33:45 GMT -5
Honestly, Holly needs to hop off Twitter. Not worth wasting time on this silliness. I agree with rebooted , now. Holly be a little instigator. She's going off on everyone. And it only fuels the fans to take sides with the stars and keep this on-going. It's getting so toxic online. It's so childish.
Isn't Holly currently at a convention as we speak (I know Alyssa was yesterday, but her, Shannen and Rose are there today). Shannen and Rose need to get her off twitter and go out and take a breather and have a nice dinner.
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Post by rebooted on Feb 3, 2024 19:55:29 GMT -5
Honestly, Holly needs to hop off Twitter. Not worth wasting time on this silliness. I agree with rebooted , now. Holly be a little instigator. I think HMC has her own trauma that she's dealing with. Perhaps she is close to empty nest syndrome and potentially she's headed for a 3rd divorce? I'm just speculating. Alyssa maybe should take the road that Kate Middleton does and not react. Holly Marie Combs is actually who I blame for the relationship breakdowns. She's that type of friend that goes between friends who are going through feuds or difficult times and capitalises off it or doesn't do anything to make the situation better. The execs were right - Holly didn't have any 'star power' in a professional sense and Doherty and herself obviously lacked the same strategic legal leadership and representation that Alyssa was accustomed to from being well protected in Who's the Boss and thereafter. |
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Post by West on Feb 3, 2024 20:30:51 GMT -5
Honestly, Holly needs to hop off Twitter. Not worth wasting time on this silliness. I agree with rebooted , now. Holly be a little instigator. I think HMC has her own trauma that she's dealing with. Perhaps she is close to empty nest syndrome and potentially she's headed for a 3rd divorce? I'm just speculating. Alyssa maybe should take the road that Kate Middleton does and not react. Holly Marie Combs is actually who I blame for the relationship breakdowns. She's that type of friend that goes between friends who are going through feuds or difficult times and capitalises off it or doesn't do anything to make the situation better. The execs were right - Holly didn't have any 'star power' in a professional sense and Doherty and herself obviously lacked the same strategic legal leadership and representation that Alyssa was accustomed to from being well protected in Who's the Boss and thereafter. Alyssa said she's had the same representative since she was 19. Plus her mother was pretty involved and really helped her to know how to protect her brand and back herself from what we've seen. Alyssa's husband is part of the CAA, too. Alyssa is well protected. She has a good PR team. |
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Post by goldeneye049 on Feb 4, 2024 1:57:29 GMT -5
 Holly is very weird... I think my two favorite actresses on the show will be Shannen and Rose, just like they are my two favorite characters. Shannen was dragged through the mud, Rose was broken. Rose bared her fangs and broke free. She even said she was ready to work with “the other”. Holly is so weird...I wouldn't want to have a friend like that. Alyssa's answers don't add anything, but that's normal. She can't say that the girls are lying and she can't say that everything is true otherwise she would contradict her mother. It's a polite response that serves no purpose other than to point out that Holly and Shannen made a mess. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 4, 2024 3:57:50 GMT -5
View AttachmentHolly is very weird... I think my two favorite actresses on the show will be Shannen and Rose, just like they are my two favorite characters. Shannen was dragged through the mud, Rose was broken. Rose bared her fangs and broke free. She even said she was ready to work with “the other”. Holly is so weird...I wouldn't want to have a friend like that. Alyssa's answers don't add anything, but that's normal. She can't say that the girls are lying and she can't say that everything is true otherwise she would contradict her mother. It's a polite response that serves no purpose other than to point out that Holly and Shannen made a mess. I only like Shannen and Rose, now. But, I still like Phoebe & Paige LOL I just couldn't get into Shannen's character, as Prue, on the show. I felt like the direction was very unclear on where it wanted to go with the Prue character, that it frustrates me. Despite not liking Alyssa Milano, I still like her character, Phoebe, on the show. Regarding Holly's character Piper...I used to like her but not anymore. There's still some remnants about her that I like but not a lot. And, Paige is on par in development with Phoebe, I just relate to the Phoebe character more. |
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Post by rebooted on Feb 4, 2024 4:47:41 GMT -5
View AttachmentHolly is very weird... I think my two favorite actresses on the show will be Shannen and Rose, just like they are my two favorite characters. Shannen was dragged through the mud, Rose was broken. Rose bared her fangs and broke free. She even said she was ready to work with “the other”. Holly is so weird...I wouldn't want to have a friend like that. Alyssa's answers don't add anything, but that's normal. She can't say that the girls are lying and she can't say that everything is true otherwise she would contradict her mother. It's a polite response that serves no purpose other than to point out that Holly and Shannen made a mess. Wait so who is Vernoff replying to a post. And is she referring to Alyssa not being a bully or Shannen? And what the heck is up with Holly. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 4, 2024 4:51:25 GMT -5
Wait so who is Vernoff replying to a post. And is she referring to Alyssa not being a bully or Shannen? And what the heck is up with Holly. I thought Vernoff was responding to Milano as not being the bully. And, it's like you said, Holly is a little instigator LOL Holly probably relies on all this drama to remain relevant, I guess LOL |
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Post by rebooted on Feb 4, 2024 4:56:15 GMT -5
Wait so who is Vernoff replying to a post. And is she referring to Alyssa not being a bully or Shannen? And what the heck is up with Holly. I thought Vernoff was responding to Milano as not being the bully. And, it's like you said, Holly is a little instigator LOL Holly probably relies on all this drama to remain relevant, I guess LOL People are so strange - referring to Holly. There def must be something going on with her personally. Mid life crisis? I saw a clip of HMC being interviewed and her being upset at Brian for having a romantic relationship with Alyssa, and then going on about how she would tell brian to Listerine, Shower etc. before their romantic scenes. Why does anyone want to say that stuff lol |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Feb 4, 2024 5:00:27 GMT -5
I saw a clip of HMC being interviewed and her being upset at Brian for having a romantic relationship with Alyssa, and then going on about how she would tell brian to Listerine, Shower etc. before their romantic scenes. Why does anyone want to say that stuff lol Haha, we're on the same wave length, then 'cause I watched that exact same thing LOL I can somewhat understand, though. Exchanging of fluids between person to person can be gross. I don't like sharing my drinking cup, why would I try to kiss someone who kissed someone else? There are some behavioral things Holly does that are meant to be jokes, I'm pretty sure that was one of them. Holly is very sarcastic and so am I which is why I gravitated towards her, to begin with. But, lately, she's being unnecessarily aggressive with this nonsense. |
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Post by lunchking on Feb 4, 2024 5:01:05 GMT -5
I thought Vernoff was responding to Milano as not being the bully. And, it's like you said, Holly is a little instigator LOL Holly probably relies on all this drama to remain relevant, I guess LOL People are so strange - referring to Holly. There def must be something going on with her personally. Mid life crisis? I saw a clip of HMC being interviewed and her being upset at Brian for having a romantic relationship with Alyssa, and then going on about how she would tell brian to Listerine, Shower etc. before their romantic scenes. Why does anyone want to say that stuff lol I don't know much about her personal life but she no longer lives in LA and relocated with her third husband and family. Holly must think it's cute and funny to say things like that in interviews. But her ranting on social media often just comes across as childish. Yeah lots of her remarks on the podcast can be annoying and repetitive. I hope she can calm down and take it seriously the second time. Drew seemed to be the only one who took is seriously with notes. |
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Post by goldeneye049 on Feb 4, 2024 5:31:02 GMT -5
View AttachmentHolly is very weird... I think my two favorite actresses on the show will be Shannen and Rose, just like they are my two favorite characters. Shannen was dragged through the mud, Rose was broken. Rose bared her fangs and broke free. She even said she was ready to work with “the other”. Holly is so weird...I wouldn't want to have a friend like that. Alyssa's answers don't add anything, but that's normal. She can't say that the girls are lying and she can't say that everything is true otherwise she would contradict her mother. It's a polite response that serves no purpose other than to point out that Holly and Shannen made a mess. Wait so who is Vernoff replying to a post. And is she referring to Alyssa not being a bully or Shannen? And what the heck is up with Holly. Cf wikipedia : "She has worked on a number of American television shows, including the program Charmed, from 2000 to 2004. She began as a story editor and became a co-producer of the show." 🤔 Weird |
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Post by rebooted on Feb 4, 2024 6:47:59 GMT -5
Wait so who is Vernoff replying to a post. And is she referring to Alyssa not being a bully or Shannen? And what the heck is up with Holly. Cf wikipedia : "She has worked on a number of American television shows, including the program Charmed, from 2000 to 2004. She began as a story editor and became a co-producer of the show." 🤔 Weird lol - sorry I know who Vernoff is. I was wondering who she was replying to on X- because it only had a reply with Holly But its been clarified that Vernoff was replying to Alyssa saying she wasn't the bully |
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Post by shay321 on Feb 4, 2024 12:55:29 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6N59NeOuxQcan somebody explain to me what was she referring to? i mean this just turned into a ''my trauma experience is more important'' i saw it twice and didnt understand what was she talking about, what was the question
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Post by elmoretti on Feb 4, 2024 13:09:10 GMT -5
After two months and 9 pages in the topic, I finally decided to speak out.😁
First of all, I immediately apologize for the mistakes - English is not my native language.
Now on to the podcast.
It's funny, but I was waiting for him. I'm not a Doherty fan at all, but I was interested to hear her version of all the "gossip" about her.
And the first podcast gave me a lot of hope. Especially against the backdrop of in what trash HOH had turned into by that time and how impossible it was to listen to it anymore.
Besides, the part about “invited colleagues with whom the conversation will be hard” was promising.
Yes, I hoped (then) that she would invite Alyssa and they (like adults) would discuss everything, agree that there were problems on both sides, apologize and close this issue forever.
But the episode with Holly came out. AND....
Honestly, I expected them to talk about their friendship and themselves. How they met, how they maintained a relationship for 30+ years, how they dealt with problems (as far as I remember from "off the map" they even went to therapy together), how their friendship and how they survived Covid, how Holly reacted to Doherty's cancer news. And they will tell about their travels, funny stories, etc. But I never expected that out of two hours they hour and half would discuss Milano and how “toxic” she is.
It was really hard to listen to.
Regarding the others, I skip the cancer episode for personal reasons.
Mom - it wasn't interesting.
Chris (friend) - interesting in places.
Kevin - most of hour it was only facepalm.
And with Priestley - honestly, I skip most part since I’m not a fan of BH90210.
Regarding the whole situation with the third season of "Charmed".
If we take into account everything that has been said over the past two days (on Twitter and Instagram) - then yes, there were problems on the set. And there was bullying. But judging by the comments of the writers/crew members, the initiators of the bullying were not Milano.
And I honestly hold the same opinion. Although I do not deny that her ego (at that time) could lead to disagreements and misunderstandings that could have been resolved. But no one was interested in this.
And about "how toxic was Milano":
I have a problem with McGowan's "truth" and honesty.
Shannen (judging by the podcast) has a million reasons to justify her problems and not take any responsibility - “my father was sick”, “there were problems in my marriage”, “it’s all a colleague and not me”, “the film failed at the box office".
For a long time, Holly seemed to be one of the most adequate (although for me there were moments which left questions), but since the year 2019/2020 everything has gone downhill. And the last year, it seems, has shown her true face. Brr.
So with all these (plus the fact that throughout his entire Milano's career before, during Charmed and after, no one (beside Doherty/McGowan) never complained about problems with her on the set) I have a very big question about who is there was really toxic.
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