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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 10, 2023 13:29:00 GMT -5
List of Episodes Where Piper Freezes + How OftenQualifications: Anytime the show recognizes the Piper character freezing. This includes Wendigo Piper from S1E12 "The Wendigo" or Wyatt Piper from S8E1 "Still Charmed & Kicking". If Holly Marie Combs is still the stand-in for the Piper character like Terra in S3E9 "Coyote Piper" will still be counted. As long as the freezing power acts and behaves as it normally does including those "fighting through the freeze" like Jeremy from S2E1 "Witch Trial", Vinceres from S3E6 "Primrose Empath", The Aggressor from S5E5 "Witches in Tights", etc. With the exception of those completely immune to being frozen such as the Furies from S4E3 "Hell Hath No Fury" or Chris & Bianca from S6E10 "Chris-Crossed". And not including the altered freezing version like Warlock Piper in S3E13 "Bride & Gloom". No off-screen freezing either such as Piper freezing Leo in bed in S1E10 "Wicca Envy". Will make a slight exception for the already seen frozen people (but, we didn't see Piper actually do it) in S6E18 "Spin City". Hope that makes sense and enjoy! S1 S1E10 x7 S1E4 x3 S1E11 x3 S1E22 x3 S1E1 x2 S1E6 x2 S1E7 x2 S1E8 x2 S1E14 x2 S1E15 x2 S1E16 x2 S1E17 x2 S1E19 x2 S1E2 x1 S1E3 x1 S1E5 x1 S1E9 x1 S1E12 x1 S1E13 x1 S1E18 x1 S1E20 x0 S1E21 x0
Total: 41 | S2 S2E7 x6 S2E2 x5 S2E1 x4 S2E3 x4 S2E9 x4 S2E11 x4 S2E10 x3 S2E20 x3 S2E22 x3 S2E4 x2 S2E5 x2 S2E13 x2 S2E15 x2 S2E17 x2 S2E6 x1 S2E8 x1 S2E14 x1 S2E16 x1 S2E18 x1 S2E19 x1 S2E21 x1 S2E12 x0
Total: 53 | S3 S3E11 x5 S3E2 x3 S3E3 x3 S3E12 x3 S3E17 x3 S3E1 x2 S3E6 x2 S3E7 x2 S3E9 x2 S3E18 x2 S3E19 x2 S3E4 x1 S3E5 x1 S3E8 x1 S3E13 x1 S3E10 x0 S3E14 x0 S3E15 x0 S3E16 x0 S3E20 x0 S3E21 x0 S3E22 x0
Total: 33 | S4 S4E3 x3 S4E8 x3 S4E10 x3 S4E11 x3 S4E2 x2 S4E12 x2 S4E16 x2 S4E19 x2 S4E20 x2 S4E22 x2 S4E4 x1 S4E5 x1 S4E6 x1 S4E7 x1 S4E9 x1 S4E17 x1 S4E21 x1 S4E1 x0 S4E13 x0 S4E14 x0 S4E15 x0 S4E18 x0
Total: 31 | S5 S5E8 x2 S5E18 x2 S5E4 x1 S5E5 x1 S5E10 x1 S5E12 x1 S5E17 x1 S5E1 x0 S5E2 x0 S5E3 x0 S5E6 x0 S5E7 x0 S5E9 x0 S5E11 x0 S5E13 x0 S5E14 x0 S5E15 x0 S5E16 x0 S5E19 x0 S5E20 x0 S5E21 x0 S5E22 x0 S5E23 x0
Total: 8 | S6 S6E10 x2 S6E13 x2 S6E2 x1 S6E4 x1 S6E12 x1 S6E18 x1 S6E20 x1 S6E22 x1 S6E1 x0 S6E3 x0 S6E5 x0 S6E6 x0 S6E7 x0 S6E8 x0 S6E9 x0 S6E11 x0 S6E14 x0 S6E15 x0 S6E16 x0 S6E17 x0 S6E19 x0 S6E21 x0 S6E23 x0
Total: 10 | S7 S7E4 x4 S7E6 x1 S7E16 x1 S7E19 x1 S7E1 x0 S7E2 x0 S7E3 x0 S7E5 x0 S7E7 x0 S7E8 x0 S7E9 x0 S7E10 x0 S7E11 x0 S7E12 x0 S7E13 x0 S7E14 x0 S7E15 x0 S7E17 x0 S7E18 x0 S7E20 x0 S7E21 x0 S7E22 x0
Total: 6 | S8 S8E3 x4 S8E1 x1 S8E9 x1 S8E10 x1 S8E11 x1 S8E16 x1 S8E18 x1 S8E19 x1 S8E2 x0 S8E4 x0 S8E5 x0 S8E6 x0 S8E7 x0 S8E8 x0 S8E12 x0 S8E13 x0 S8E14 x0 S8E15 x0 S8E17 x0 S8E20 x0 S8E21 x0 S8E22 x0
Total: 11 |
List of Episodes Where Piper Only Freezes Post-S3 + How OftenQualifications: Anytime the Piper character freezes and NEVER uses her blow up power. This includes Valkyrie Piper, from S6E1-2 "Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 1 & 2" with extra powers and still chooses to freeze over blowing up. S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" x4 S4E8 "Black as Cole" x3 S4E10 "A Paige from the Past" x3 S4E22 "Witch Way, Now?" x2 S4E17 "Saving Private Leo" x1 S6E2 "Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 2" x1 S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1" x1 S8E10 "Vaya Con Leos" x1 S8E11 "Mr. & Mrs. Witch" x1
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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 10, 2023 15:54:08 GMT -5
Looks like S4 is the most balanced season for both of Piper's powers via freezing and blowing up.
Not surprised to see S5-S8 utilize the freezing power less, as flashy exploding powers became something they can do more often.
And, it still makes sense that S8 is the season to utilize the freezing power a little bit more with its budget cuts and freezing being an easy power to edit in.
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Post by greta on Dec 10, 2023 15:55:34 GMT -5
Interesting. Go Run Piper Run for giving us lots of freezing in the later seasons.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 10, 2023 15:57:28 GMT -5
Interesting. Go Run Piper Run for giving us lots of freezing in the later seasons. There's a premonition in this episode, too. Nothing to do with the A plot but still interesting lol
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Post by greta on Dec 10, 2023 16:02:35 GMT -5
Interesting. Go Run Piper Run for giving us lots of freezing in the later seasons. There's a premonition in this episode, too. Nothing to do with the A plot but still interesting lol Nice! Old School Charmed. Just need Paige to move something and it'll be OG power usage.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 10, 2023 20:52:14 GMT -5
As a side note, Piper freezing something but only unfreezing their head, to interrogate them:
S3E8 "Sleuthing with the Enemy" S5E12 "Centennial Charmed" S7E6 "Once in a Blue Moon" S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" S8E18 "The Torn Identity"
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 3, 2024 23:56:07 GMT -5
S1 S1E10 x7 S1E4 x3 S1E11 x3 S1E22 x3 S1E1 x2 S1E6 x2 S1E7 x2 S1E8 x2 S1E14 x2 S1E15 x2 S1E16 x2 S1E17 x2 S1E19 x2 S1E2 x1 S1E3 x1 S1E5 x1 S1E9 x1 S1E12 x1 S1E13 x1 S1E18 x1 S1E20 x0 S1E21 x0
Total: 41 | S2 S2E7 x6 S2E2 x5 S2E1 x4 S2E3 x4 S2E9 x4 S2E11 x4 S2E10 x3 S2E20 x3 S2E22 x3 S2E4 x2 S2E5 x2 S2E13 x2 S2E15 x2 S2E17 x2 S2E6 x1 S2E8 x1 S2E14 x1 S2E16 x1 S2E18 x1 S2E19 x1 S2E21 x1 S2E12 x0
Total: 53 | S3 S3E11 x5 S3E2 x3 S3E3 x3 S3E17 x3 S3E1 x2 S2E6 x2 S3E7 x2 S3E9 x2 S3E12 x2 S3E18 x2 S3E19 x2 S3E4 x1 S3E5 x1 S3E8 x1 S3E13 x1 S3E10 x0 S3E14 x0 S3E15 x0 S3E16 x0 S3E20 x0 S3E21 x0 S3E22 x0
Total: 32 | S4 S4E3 x3 S4E8 x3 S4E10 x3 S4E11 x3 S4E2 x2 S4E19 x2 S4E20 x2 S4E22 x2 S4E4 x1 S4E5 x1 S4E6 x1 S4E7 x1 S4E9 x1 S4E12 x1 S4E16 x1 S4E17 x1 S4E21 x1 S4E1 x0 S4E13 x0 S4E14 x0 S4E15 x0 S4E18 x0
Total: 29 | S5 S5E18 x2 S5E5 x1 S5E8 x1 S5E10 x1 S5E12 x1 S5E17 x1 S5E1 x0 S5E2 x0 S5E3 x0 S5E4 x0 S5E6 x0 S5E7 x0 S5E9 x0 S5E11 x0 S5E13 x0 S5E14 x0 S5E15 x0 S5E16 x0 S5E19 x0 S5E20 x0 S5E21 x0 S5E22 x0 S5E23 x0
Total: 7 | S6 S6E13 x2 S6E2 x1 S6E4 x1 S6E10 x1 S6E18 x1 S6E20 x1 S6E22 x1 S6E1 x0 S6E3 x0 S6E5 x0 S6E6 x0 S6E7 x0 S6E8 x0 S6E9 x0 S6E11 x0 S6E12 x0 S6E14 x0 S6E15 x0 S6E16 x0 S6E17 x0 S6E19 x0 S6E21 x0 S6E23 x0
Total: 8 | S7 S7E4 x2 S7E6 x1 S7E16 x1 S7E19 x1 S7E1 x0 S7E2 x0 S7E3 x0 S7E5 x0 S7E7 x0 S7E8 x0 S7E9 x0 S7E10 x0 S7E11 x0 S7E12 x0 S7E13 x0 S7E14 x0 S7E15 x0 S7E17 x0 S7E18 x0 S7E20 x0 S7E21 x0 S7E22 x0
Total: 5 | S8 S8E3 x4 S8E1 x1 S8E9 x1 S8E10 x1 S8E11 x1 S8E16 x1 S8E18 x1 S8E19 x1 S8E2 x0 S8E4 x0 S8E5 x0 S8E6 x0 S8E7 x0 S8E8 x0 S8E12 x0 S8E13 x0 S8E14 x0 S8E15 x0 S8E17 x0 S8E20 x0 S8E21 x0 S8E22 x0
Total: 11 |
I added in totals for each season, and it looks like S7 is the worst season for Piper freezes, interesting enough. BUT, S2 is actually Piper's BEST season for freezes OVER S1, so that surprised me, even though it shouldn't if you look at how many times she actually freezes throughout S2 without having the totals, before. Essentially, here's a little chart of Piper freezes from best to worst season: S2 > S1 > S3 > S4 > S8 > S6 > S5 > S7.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Mar 4, 2024 5:13:07 GMT -5
It goes to show how redundant Piper's first power became once she got the exploding one which then was her go-to thing instead of that and her freezing power being balanced out obviously.
The same is said when potions were used quite a lot over P03 spells which I regularly missed seeing.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Mar 4, 2024 5:51:20 GMT -5
It goes to show how redundant Piper's first power became once she got the exploding one which then was her go-to thing instead of that and her freezing power being balanced out obviously. The same is said when potions were used quite a lot over P03 spells which I regularly missed seeing. I'm going to push back on this, a little bit and say S4 still manages to balance out BOTH of Piper's freezing and exploding powers. Sure, she explodes more than she freezes, in S4 but not as big of a gap we see in the S5-S8 section, of the show. I would say once we reach the S5-S8 section, of the show, is when her freezing power was underutilized the most. I don't mind the potions, I just wished it wasn't a generic exploding potion. But, I suppose we can blame S4E13 "Charmed & Dangerous" for this because Piper's powers get taken away, and the whole episode explains how they're making a potion to replicate her exploding power. So, this explains the use of this potion more. I agree, I wish it wasn't JUST to replicate her exploding power but specified vanquishing potions for specific demons. Like the ones to vanquish the Grimlocks, in S1E19 "Out of Sight"/S3E4 "All Halliwell's Eve", the Spider-Demon (though, it didn't truly get used, but I digress) in S6E18 "Spin City", the Avatars in S7E9 "There's Something About Leo"/S7E10 "Witchness Protection"/S7E11 "Ordinary Witches"/S7E12 "Extreme Makeover: World Edition"/S7E13 "Charmageddon", etc. The whole "PO3 Spell" concept just seems like a cop-out, most of the time instead of thinking of something else to solve the situation. Which is why I don't mind a potion solution, as long as it's not the replication of Piper's exploding power seen in S4E19 "We're off to See the Wizard", S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe", S8E21 "Kill Billie: Vol I", etc.
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Post by Aaeiyn on May 19, 2024 13:46:51 GMT -5
Doing this thing where I'll "half count" (or, even "quarter count") episodes including freezes, to get a more accurate representation, of how often Piper (not only the number of the times she) freezes, along with across the number of episodes. Here are my findings:
S1E1 "Something Wicca This Way Comes" x2 S1E2 "I've Got You Under My Skin" x1 S1E3 "Thank You for Not Morphing" x1 S1E4 "Dead Man Dating" x3 S1E5 "Dream Sorcerer" x1 S1E6 "The Wedding from Hell" x2 S1E7 "The Fourth Sister" x2 S1E8 "The Truth is Out There...and it Hurts" x2 S1E9 "The Witch is Back" x1 S1E10 "Wicca Envy" x7 S1E11 "Feats of Clay" x3 S1E12 "The Wendigo" x0.5 (counting this as a "half", since she was in Wendigo form) S1E13 "From Fear to Eternity" x1 S1E14 "Secrets & Guys" x2 S1E15 "Is There a Woogy, in the House?" x2 S1E16 "Which Prue is it, Anyway?" x2 S1E17 "That 70s Episode" x2 S1E18 "When Bad Warlocks Go Good" x1 S1E19 "Out of Sight" x2 S1E22 "Deja Vu, all Over, Again" x2 (counting this as another "0.5" added due to time reversing itself, when she froze the first two times) Sub-Total: 19.5 Episodes (counting the Wendigo episode as "half") & 39.5 Freezes (counting Wendigo Piper freezing as "half")
S2E1 "Witch Trial" x4 S2E2 "Morality Bites" x4 S2E3 "The Painted World" x2.5 (since, Piper was in the Painting, when she was freezing a lot of things in there, I count all of those times as "0.5" times each, she did it three times) S2E4 "The Devil's Music" x2 S2E5 "She's a Man, Baby, a Man!" x2 S2E6 "That Old Black Magic" x1 S2E7 "They're Everywhere" x6 S2E8 "P3 H20" x1 S2E9 "Ms. Hellfire" x4 S2E10 "Heartbreak City" x3 S2E11 "Reckless Abandon" x4 S2E13 "Animal Pragmatism" x2 S2E14 "Pardon My Past" x1 S2E15 "Give Me a Sign" x2 S2E16 "Murphy's Luck" x1 S2E17 "How to Make a Quilt Out of Americans" x2 S2E18 "Chick Flick" x1 S2E19 "Ex Libris" x1 S2E20 "Astral Monkey" x2.5 (since, Dr. Williamson was able to fight through one of her freezes, I'll count that as a "half") S2E21 "Apocalypse, Not" x1 S2E22 "Be Careful What You Witch For" x3 Sub-Total: 21 Episodes & 50 Freezes
S3E1 "The Honeymoon's Over" x2 S3E2 "Magic Hour" x3 S3E3 "Once Upon a Time" x3 S3E4 "All Halliwell's Eve" x1 S3E5 "Sight Unseen" x1 S3E6 "Primrose Empath" x1.5 (Since, Vinceres fought through her freeze, I'll count that as a "half") S3E7 "Power Outage" x1.5 (the "half" is when Piper was influenced by Andras) S3E8 "Sleuthing with the Enemy" x1 S3E9 "Coyote Piper" x0.5 (may seem like Piper froze here, but she didn't, Terra did, but I'm only counting Terra as a "quarter", and she did it twice) S3E11 "Blinded by the Whitelighter" x5 S3E12 "Wrestling with Demons" x2 S3E13 "Bride & Gloom" x1.5 (counting the times Warlock Piper froze things as a "quarter" 'cause 1. she wasn't herself & 2. the power worked differently than normal) S3E17 "Prewitched" x2 (counting the first two times Piper froze Shadow, and he fought through it as "half") S3E18 "Sin Francisco" x1.25 (counting a quarter of one of Piper's freezes 'cause 1. she was influenced under a sin ball & 2. the person fought through her freeze) S3E19 "The Demon who Came in from the Cold" x2 Sub-Total: 14.25 Episodes ('cause of the Terra Piper episode) & 28.25 Freezes ('cause of the Terra Piper freezes)
S4E2 "Charmed Again, Pt 2" x2 S4E3 "Hell Hath No Fury" x1.5 (the two times Piper accidentally froze Cole & Piper freezing Paige's co-workers will be counted as "half") S4E4 "Enter the Demon" x1 S4E5 "Size Matters" x0.5 (since, Piper was tiny, when she froze Gamil, it'll be counted as "half") S4E6 "A Knight to Remember" x1 S4E7 "Brain Drain" x1 S4E8 "Black as Cole" x2 (counting the times people fought through her freezes as "half", and it happened twice) S4E9 "Muse to My Ears" x1 S4E10 "A Paige from the Past" x3 S4E11 "Trial by Magic" x3 S4E16 "The Fifth Halliwheel" x2 S4E17 "Saving Private Leo" x1 S4E19 "We're off to See the Wizard" x2 S4E20 "Long Live the Queen" x1.5 (counting drunk Piper freezing Leo as "half") S4E22 "Witch Way, Now?" x2 Sub-Total: 14 Episodes & 24.5 Freezes ('cause of Tiny Piper's freeze)
S5E4 "Siren Song" x0.5 (Piper's powers were being effected by Wyatt, she's lucky she got a freeze off, in this episode, so I count this as "half") S5E5 "Witches in Tights" x0.5 (The Aggressor fought through Piper's freeze, so it'll be counted as a "half") S5E8 "Witch in Time" x0.5 (Time got reversed and erased her freezing moment that she did do, here, so that's why it's "half") S5E10 "Y Tu Mummy Tambien" x1 S5E11 "The Importance of Being Phoebe" x0.5 ('cause the Charmed ones reversed the damage Cole did in this episode, so it'll be counted as a "half") S5E12 "Centennial Charmed" x0.5 (different world Piper but still Holly Marie Combs, so it'll be counted as "half") S5E17 "Lucky Charmed" x1 S5E18 "Cat House" x2 Sub-Total: 5.5 Episodes & 6.5 Freezes (both of these have "half" points due to a plethora of "halves" going on)
S6E2 "Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 2" x0.5 ("half" due to Valkyrie Piper freezing) S6E4 "The Power of Three Blondes" x0.5 ("half" due to Piper's identity being stolen, but she still had her power) S6E10 "Chris-Crossed" x1 S6E12 "Prince Charmed" x0.5 ("half" due to Piper being influenced) S6E13 "Used Karma" x2 S6E14 "The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell" x0.25 ("quarter" 'cause Zackary telepathized Piper's power) S6E16 "The Courtship of Wyatt's Father" x0.5 ("half" 'cause it was off-screen) S6E18 "Spin City" x1 S6E20 "A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right" x1 S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1" Sub-Total: 7.25 Episodes & 8.25 Freezes ("quarter" 'cause of Zackary)
S7E4 "Charrrmed!" x4 S7E6 "Once in a Blue Moon" x1 S7E11 "Ordinary Witches" x0.5 ('cause of Denise having Piper's freezing power, it only counts as a "quarter", and she froze twice) S7E16 "The Seven Year Witch" x1 S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe" x1 Sub-Total: 4.25 Episodes & 7.5 Freezes (both 'cause of S7E11 "Ordinary Witches")
S8E1 "Still Charmed & Kicking" x0.5 ("half" 'cause like S6E4 "The Power of Three Blondes", their identities are different) S8E3 "Run, Piper, Run" x2 (lowered this episodes freeze counts by "half" 'cause of their identities being different, here) S8E9 "Hulkus Pocus" x0.75 (counting this as "0.75" due to the fact Piper froze Billie who's a witch and not supposed to freeze but I digress) S8E10 "Vaya Con Leos" x1 S8E11 "Mr. & Mrs. Witch" x1 S8E16 "Engaged & Confused" x0.5 ("half" due to the Triad fighting through the freeze, though they were more slow mode than actually froze / successfully fought through Piper's freeze, but I digress) S8E18 "The Torn Identity" x0.5 ('cause S4E16 "The Fifth Halliwheel" says their powers don't work too well, in the Underworld, and I will continue that narrative, since she froze in the Underworld) S8E19 "The Jung & the Restless" x1 Sub-Total: 5.75 Episodes & 7.25 Freezes (both may seem mathematically incorrect, at face value, but it is accurate due to the "halves" and "0.75" going on)
With these more accurate calculations in getting the best of Piper freezes, here are the season rankings for best to worst in Piper freezes:
S2 > S1 > S3 > S4 > S6 > S8 > S5 > S7
Even though, S7 has more total freezes than S5, S5 has more episodes in seeing Piper freeze, at least, once. So, S5 is over S7 because of that.
S3 & S4 were fairly neck in neck with Piper freezes which is surprising considering Piper gets a new power in late S3 and has it throughout ALL of S4, yet S4 Piper still is freezing as often as she did in S3, so something to think about. Too bad S5-S8 couldn't be on the same level as S4 in evening out Piper's freezing power with her exploding power, but I digress.
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