The Series Finale: Disappointments

[spiritsas]

LisaM: I've always wondered what happened and why SD left the show. Since she was asked to leave 90210 for, supposedly, acting out off camera, it seemed likely she was a "bad" girl again and was fired. The one thing you didn't mention was who fired her? If Kern liked her directing abilities so much that he let her direct "All Hell Breaks Loose" then perhaps he was forced to fire her by either the WB or some other controlling entity. BK has said he didn't bother to ask SD about coming back, probably because he knows there was too much back blood spilled over her leaving. You have to know BK knows exactly what happened, as does HMC and AM. They were there. The only other thing I heard was that HMC and SD were great friends, even to this day. However, I've heard AM and SD did not get along so well. That may or may not be true, but perhaps you've read or talked to those who know.

The only disappointment I have is not having Cole there as he was on the show for a period longer than SD and came back for #150, in what was quite a good episode. I don't know if they will actually kill Billie and Christy off or save them from becoming evil (or in Christy's case, turn her back to good). Perhaps they'll erase her memory of those years in captivity. Either way, after killing their parents off so brutally, I hope they don't wipe them out too. That would be disappointing.

[Lisa M]

spiritkas said:

LisaM: I've always wondered what happened and why SD left the show. Since she was asked to leave 90210 for, supposedly, acting out off camera, it seemed likely she was a "bad" girl again and was fired. The one thing you didn't mention was who fired her? If Kern liked her directing abilities so much that he let her direct "All Hell Breaks Loose" then perhaps he was forced to fire her by either the WB or some other controlling entity. BK has said he didn't bother to ask SD about coming back, probably because he knows there was too much back blood spilled over her leaving. You have to know BK knows exactly what happened, as does HMC and AM. They were there. The only other thing I heard was that HMC and SD were great friends, even to this day. However, I've heard AM and SD did not get along so well. That may or may not be true, but perhaps you've read or talked to those who know.

Kern may have liked Shannen's directing abilities, but he doesn't like strong women. Shannen has said that she has no problem with Aaron Spelling, she has said that a certain producer that works for him does not like strong women, but didn't name who. The only hands on producer for Charmed is Brad Kern, so it isn't a stretch that she was talking about him.
Kern was the one that wanted to fire Shannen. There were problems between her and Alyssa Milano, and instead of forcing them to work it out between them, Kern went to Spelling and asked to fire Shannen. Her lawyer was called while she was out of the country filming a movie and he was told to tell Shannen she was being fired. (It seems Kern doesn't like to fire people to their faces--he called Drew Fuller on the phone to tell him they were killing him off in the finale during the filming of Spin City).
The really nasty thing about this is, Shannen had wanted to leave the show halfway through season 3, but they threatened to sue her if she did. They could have easily just asked her to finish the rest of the season and let her out of her contract at the end of the season. That way, there would have been no bad blood and they could have had her do guest appearances. The way they went about it was pretty mean. Since Shannen had already been fired from one show before, she took the brunt of the blame for this, but the way they went about this wasn't right, and I'm not even a Shannen fan.

[belladonna]

wow, you guys know alot about this situation. I never knew the story before.
I am not a SD / Prue fan, but it would be cool if she could appearing the finale. Like Alias is doing, bringing back characters we thought were dead, as a swan song to the fans.

If its true how she was fired i cannot blame her for not coming back on her own(and why they are so chickened to ask!)

And Brad Kern would have to be labelled a Coward if this is how he cans people. Pretty pathetic.

[piper031074]

mrmilano said:

But yeah. I'm glad Finloa is there NOW, I was angry before. But sad for Dorian Gregory. somehow I thought he would be the one who would save the day. A surprise!

me too it would have been nice to see Darryl again but I was told he's not in the finale not fair he is missed

[charmeddude39]

they should bring prue back and mack the four of them vanquish billie and christy

[MrCharmed]

thekiwicharmed said:

isienna10 said:

Honestly i am getting sick of hearing abt Prue Prue Prue all over!! c'mon ppl there's Piper there's Phoebe there's Leo --- not to mention rest of the family and Brad KErn is making up for watever has happened to the first half of the season --- i think the second half is turning out pretty interesting! enjoy ppl --- i love charmed!

Brad Kern isn't making up for anything Isi.

He lies and deciets everyone and puts a positive spin on everything just for PR purposes. He would make a great politician. It's because of him, not Alyssa, that Shannen was fired and it's because of him that we haven't seen her in any flashbacks (not Shannen) and because of him that there will never be any way for her to return.

Prue was a very, very important character for three years, spanning 66 episodes of the show. She was the drive and when she died, the catalyst that kept the sisters fighting to avenge the source and all she gets in the last episode is a POSSIBLE SHOUT OUT?.

If a shout out is the best they can do, then Charmed and Brad Kern can shove it, because I don't couldn't care less. Fans like me have kept him in business these eight years, without us he wouldn't have the "longest female leads in the history of television" title under his belt.

I presume your comments are based upon facts about Brad being the reason Prue left, yeah i thought not. Blame whoever you like, shes gone - nothing will change that... can obviously see that most people on this board are still stuck in season 3 lol.

I don't doubt the Prue was probably the driving force behind charmed for the 3 years she was there, but just think what we'd have missed if she remained there - Pipers emotional range that gets ever more powerful each season, the cole storyline developing the way it did, heck if Prue was still alive Phoebe woulda died cos she woulda vanquished her when she was evil - but mostly importantly the character of Paige who i thinks great for the show!

Okay the season after Prue left changed compared to the first 3, but things can stay in the same pattern forever - that would just become tedious.

The thing you've got to remember is charmed will end the way its going to end, your moaning and criticsing of the show wont change that. You can either enjoy whats left of a great show, or continue to moan to no avail. Take it for what it is, not what you think it should be.

[Lisa M]

This is starting to get off topic. If you want to discuss why Shannen left or how the show would be different if she stayed, go to the Prue/Shannen forum. This thread is for discussing disappointments in the series finale, which brings me to this:

The thing you've got to remember is charmed will end the way its going to end, your moaning and criticsing of the show wont change that. You can either enjoy whats left of a great show, or continue to moan to no avail. Take it for what it is, not what you think it should be.

Again, This thread is for discussing disappointments in the series finale. Do not come in here and criticize people for voicing theirs. If you have a problem with people's disappointments, then don't read this thread.

[MrCharmed]

Again, This thread is for discussing disappointments in the series finale. Do not come in here and criticize people for voicing theirs. If you have a problem with people's disappointments, then don't read this thread.

Techincally my thread was a disappointment, that poeple cant accept it - but whatever, i get it. Really your doing what you told me not to do on this thread, criticisng my opinion lol - which really doesn't connect with the topic. I guess because your posts count is higher than mine, your better than me and sos your opinions - i can accept that, lol.

[impath]

I dont think the last scene if Phoebe's wedding. But i heard it was the last scene they shot. How are Coop and Phoebe getting married so fast anyway. I know they love each other but isnt it rushing a lil.

But anyway as for the prue thing why couldnt they jus get somone to play prue instead of Shannen. They did it for Victor(the father). Cause at 1st in season 1 it was some other guy in that episode with the shape shifters.

I dont think cole needs to be in it. The show always used to be focused on him and pheobe and he has been Vanquished numerous times.

[impath]

Oh and I wasnt saying cole is going to be in the final episodes I was jus commenting on what someone else said

[oldfan]

Woe....everyone! The above posts are really getting too intense!!!! Everyone has a right to their opinions and most often a reply/comments is based on what others have posted. I don't think telling posters to move on and don't read is really "over the edge".

[shax82]

Ciao. I am Italian. Who thinks that Brad Kern has lied respect to the return of Prue? Perhaps wants to make a surprise! Is this, according to you, possible? Or am I a crazy person? I have another question. Will her sisters say the motive for which they cannot evoke Prue? However it is not correct that Prue there won't be. I am very disappointed! Brad Kern had told us that would have called her!

[ltcolcarter]

From what I've read Shannen wasn't asked to be in the finale. However, I'm hoping they use their magic and get her in the finale somehow.

[weenbeans]

ditto lt.

I don't think it will happen,butI hope. Maybe even a dream sequence?

And what about Phobe? She was supposed to have a girl. She saw itin an episode where she gets to see her future self.

After they kill off billie and Kristy, maybe she will find out she is pregnant for the finale!

[weenbeans]

dana1969 said:

spiritkas said:

LisaM: I've always wondered what happened and why SD left the show. Since she was asked to leave 90210 for, supposedly, acting out off camera, it seemed likely she was a "bad" girl again and was fired. The one thing you didn't mention was who fired her? If Kern liked her directing abilities so much that he let her direct "All Hell Breaks Loose" then perhaps he was forced to fire her by either the WB or some other controlling entity. BK has said he didn't bother to ask SD about coming back, probably because he knows there was too much back blood spilled over her leaving. You have to know BK knows exactly what happened, as does HMC and AM. They were there. The only other thing I heard was that HMC and SD were great friends, even to this day. However, I've heard AM and SD did not get along so well. That may or may not be true, but perhaps you've read or talked to those who know.

Kern may have liked Shannen's directing abilities, but he doesn't like strong women. Shannen has said that she has no problem with Aaron Spelling, she has said that a certain producer that works for him does not like strong women, but didn't name who. The only hands on producer for Charmed is Brad Kern, so it isn't a stretch that she was talking about him.
Kern was the one that wanted to fire Shannen. There were problems between her and Alyssa Milano, and instead of forcing them to work it out between them, Kern went to Spelling and asked to fire Shannen. Her lawyer was called while she was out of the country filming a movie and he was told to tell Shannen she was being fired. (It seems Kern doesn't like to fire people to their faces--he called Drew Fuller on the phone to tell him they were killing him off in the finale during the filming of Spin City).
The really nasty thing about this is, Shannen had wanted to leave the show halfway through season 3, but they threatened to sue her if she did. They could have easily just asked her to finish the rest of the season and let her out of her contract at the end of the season. That way, there would have been no bad blood and they could have had her do guest appearances. The way they went about it was pretty mean. Since Shannen had already been fired from one show before, she took the brunt of the blame for this, but the way they went about this wasn't right, and I'm not even a Shannen fan.

Thanks for this info Lisa. It's cleared up a lot for me.

[Halliwellchild3]

Prue may not be able to age, but in the future why can't they bring her back as a whitelighter, to repay her for all the good she did and the innocents she saved. Or what they could do is bring T.W King back as the future whitelighter to the charmed one's grand children.

[phil]

i Really think they should bring Cole back. Cole was such a big person in charmed. It would be good to see him one last time. I see wat u all are saying about Prue. I agree with the guy above though. He was right if prue wouldnt have died we would have missed out on a lot. But i really wanna see cole AND believe it or not....BARABUS i believe he was the tightest demon on the show. But i will be upset if coles not there

[charmedfan4evr]

I don't like the fact that it's not a two hour finale. It should be on from 8-10.! There have been premiers/finales like that!Forget the whole two part finale (being Kill Billie Vol. 2 and Forever Charmed) They are on two different weeks and I don't like the wait because I know it will prob. say "to be continued" it will most prob. end on a huge cliff hanger!....It should just be Kill Billie Vol 2 the usual way .... then Forever Charmed should be two hours long-it deserves it!!!!

[Deleted]

that jus stupid because if it did run for 2 hrs ... it wud be up against desperate housewives and the last episode of charmed will get 2 million views - if that

[charmedfan4evr]

mrmilano said:

that jus stupid because if it did run for 2 hrs ... it wud be up against desperate housewives and the last episode of charmed will get 2 million views - if that

very true we wouldn't want that to happen....that sunday at 9 is the season finale of desperate housewives.