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Post by ShantaD on Sept 19, 2007 19:43:35 GMT -5
I'm not following you. Just because the stupid cousins exist don't mean they ever have to show their faces again. Most cousins don't hang out together as adults.
Why isn't it possible? Just because Billie was watching Phoebe's kids for a time, doesn't mean she was watching them for the entire two or more days Phoebe would have been in the hospital.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 20, 2007 12:01:29 GMT -5
ROTFLMFAO! Oh, I can't get over you Chris/Wyatt fans who will do ANYTHING to be sure that no female gets into the spinoff! Sorry, Kern has shut the lid on that. You guys can fantasize to your heart's content (especially because I'm convinced that we'll never get a spinoff anyway), but unless you agree with me that Forever Charmed is just a fantasy--either one that Piper has as she burns on the stake or the three sisters' fantasy of what they want their lives to be like (how else could they be writing about what was going to happen in the future?), then you have to include the female cousins somehow or you're not sticking with what Kern showed us. Sorry, but if you want to say that what happened at the end is truly reality, if we get a spinoff, it will be Charmed: The Next Generation, NOT The Charmed Sons! I agree with the bold. It's what they want their lives to be like. Really, when they're writting, it's right after Christy is dead and the family hug. (Or a day later..) Even Phoebe couldn't see all of that. That's why I disregard the last five minutes of Charmed. I don't believe that it's "real". So do you think Piper reading to her granddaughter and then Leo and Piper going up the steps with the !@#$%^&*()(*&^%$#@! wall is a fantasy, too? I can sure accept that! But if it's a fantasy, don't you agree that in her fantasy, Piper would see herself with a daughter, the one she lost in Morality Bites? I sure do. Which might even be why she'd name her Melinda rather than Prue. (although I think in Piper's mind, her daughter's full name would be either Melinda Prudence or Prudence Melinda) Still doesn't explain why she doesn't fantasize said daughter on that !@#$%^&*()+)(*&^%$#@! all, although if she *is* fantasizing, she probably promptly forgot all about the daughter as soon as she got to the grandkids! |
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 20, 2007 12:38:46 GMT -5
And it's not like Melinda would even have to be a series regular in such a hypothetical spinoff. But some people stubbornly insist that the very hypothetical existence of Melinda Halliwell in the Charmedverse would somehow "spoil" the brotherly bond between Wyatt and Chris.  |
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Post by mom2wyattnchris on Sept 20, 2007 12:56:25 GMT -5
Amen to that!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 20, 2007 16:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 20, 2007 18:33:48 GMT -5
Excuse me! Isn't the whole thing a fantasy? You're arguing about a fantastic fantasy. Somehow that's just bizarre!
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Post by pipercharmedphreak on Sept 21, 2007 21:51:49 GMT -5
*if* and *when* a spinoff is created I think that, that would be an appropriate time to debate this idea!
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 3, 2007 12:41:22 GMT -5
Kern definitely knows more about the show than I do, but did a dreadful job of letting us know. Telling us via the magazines don't cut it. If there's ever a spinoff or TV movie and he uses those characters then, then, yes, we'll agree with him. Otherwise, we truly don't have to. Stubborn, sure. But it's true.
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Post by missyc77 on Oct 3, 2007 14:42:38 GMT -5
It showed the other "Charmed Ones" with their respective families, why wouldn't that be the case with Piper? I don't understand why this would be debated.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 3, 2007 15:36:00 GMT -5
*if* and *when* a spinoff is created I think that, that would be an appropriate time to debate this idea! Amen! I will bet my bottom dollar that if there ever is, Piper *won't* have a daughter, because Kern will be told that the only way the spinoff will happen if he attracts all of the Chris/Wyatt fans (of which I am *not* one, but I know how very many there are!) and he'll have a better chance at that if he bows to their wishes and makes the daughter go bye-bye by having her not exist and make her a cousin instead. And he can, because he never had anyone on the show (ESPECIALLY Piper!) say that Piper has a daughter. |
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Post by Elder on Oct 4, 2007 0:41:14 GMT -5
Amen! I will bet my bottom dollar that if there ever is, Piper *won't* have a daughter, because Kern will be told that the only way the spinoff will happen if he attracts all of the Chris/Wyatt fans (of which I am *not* one, but I know how very many there are!) and he'll have a better chance at that if he bows to their wishes and makes the daughter go bye-bye by having her not exist and make her a cousin instead. And he can, because he never had anyone on the show (ESPECIALLY Piper!) say that Piper has a daughter. I may be six pages (or "Paiges" ;D ) late on this topic, but here's how I see it: I think it is totally outrageous for anyone (meaning the Charmed staff) to want to put Piper with another kid just because she was supposed to have one from six years earlier...in a timeline that won't take place. That's nuts! In the "Morality Bites" timeline, we have one daughter with no mention of any sons and Prue still alive. Now we have the one daughter--but everything else changed. I say why not the daughter? Give Piper 3 sons and no daughters to cement the Morality Bites timeline truly is sqaushed to bits and won't take place. I figure as long as there is a "Melinda" walking around, we could still have Phoebe in the slammer but with Paige in Prue's place. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 4, 2007 12:30:48 GMT -5
I think you misunderstood us, Elder. We who think that the little girl with Chris and Wyatt at the end of Forever Charmed is their sister Melinda do *not* think that she is the same as the Melinda of Morality Bites. If someone tells me that's what Kern had in mind, then I'll *KNOW* he's fliipped his lid. She might have been named after that little girl who was lost (although I still think her name would be Prue, after Piper's very best friend and who is still around in the Morality Bites universe, unless Phoebe or Paige already named one of their daughters Prue. And since Kern never had anyone ON THE SHOW say what her name is (even whose daughter she is), then we *CAN* decide if we think it is or isn't, at least until when and/or/if the movie/spinoff comes out, but she is *not* Morality Bites Melinda. That Melinda lives in a totally different universe, one where Prue is alive and Leo is still a whitelighter, but divorced from Pipe, and the sisters do personal-gain spells and Phoebe was burnt at the stake, one that became impossible when Prue died. It might have even became impossible when Prue quit Bucklands and became a photog--she probably wouldn't become the owner of Bucklands if she no longer worked there, and it for sure became impossible when Wyatt was born (not Melinda) and Leo became mortal. That girl at the end of Forever Charmed would be someone completely different--the same way Little Chris would be someone totally different than S6 Chris--same souls, perhaps, but totally different because they would be living totally different lives. It's the fun headachey paradox of time-travel, or at least the version of time-travel used in Charmed. They're saying you can go back and change time, then you must get different dimensions, and both Morality Bites Melinda is stuck in that other dimension where her parents are divorced, her aunt Prue is alive but has nothing to do with her family, she doesn't have brothers, she probably knows nothing about her aunt Paige and her aunt Phoebe was burnt at the stake.. That's definitely not what we saw at the end of Forever Charmed.
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Post by K. Aabye on Oct 16, 2007 5:08:19 GMT -5
I think the little girl we saw at the end is definately Piper's daughter and I also think her name is Melinda as the granddaughter we saw at the end with the old Piper and the granddaughter who closed the manor door for the final time, her name was Prudence as a "final nod to Prue" as Brad Kern put it. It's very possible that the granddaughter is Melinda's little girl as we already saw a lot of grandkids for Piper and Leo in "The Jung and the restless" an earlier episode that had aired. I doubt Melinda would name her daughter Prue if she had that name, not to mention Wyatt and Chris, if it's their girl, I don't think they would name their child after their sister. That's why I think Melinda is named Melinda.
I'm actually surprised that some people still think she's Phoebe's daughter as we all saw the Charmed Ones had three children each.
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Post by whitelightertony on Oct 17, 2007 0:38:17 GMT -5
It's also possible that Melinda (Piper and Leo's daughter) was given the middle name of "Prudence."
So if Prudence from the flashforward in "Forever Charmed" was indeed the daughter of Melinda and Ezra, then it's possible that little Prudence as seen in the future was given the middle name of "Melinda" after her mother.
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Post by K. Aabye on Oct 17, 2007 3:31:41 GMT -5
I guess that's possible, KI just don't know who Ezra is? That name wasn't in the script was it?
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Post by whitelightertony on Oct 18, 2007 20:03:18 GMT -5
Ezra Voyer is the oracle who Melinda Halliwell marries (he would be the father of little telekinetic Prudence, to whom Elderly Piper is reading the Book of Shadows at the end of "Forever Charmed").
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Post by ShantaD on Oct 18, 2007 20:10:11 GMT -5
Ezra Voyer is the oracle who Melinda Halliwell marries (he would be the father of little telekinetic Prudence, to whom Elderly Piper is reading the Book of Shadows at the end of "Forever Charmed").  Where is this coming from? It's certainly not in the show. |
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Post by whitelightertony on Oct 18, 2007 20:15:57 GMT -5
I know. He's a character whom I've created, in my own incarnation of the Charmedverse (post-"Forever Charmed").  |
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Post by K. Aabye on Oct 20, 2007 2:18:27 GMT -5
Ahhh now I see. I thought this was on the show but then again, I would have noticed if it had been. That's cool btw.
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Post by ArchAngel on Oct 30, 2007 9:36:25 GMT -5
And it's not like Melinda would even have to be a series regular in such a hypothetical spinoff. But some people stubbornly insist that the very hypothetical existence of Melinda Halliwell in the Charmedverse would somehow "spoil" the brotherly bond between Wyatt and Chris. Why? Maybe Melinda was born without Powers and Wyatt and Chris are the "Dynamic Duo" because of it ;D Also I belive Kern Wrote that last Eppisode of Charmed so if he Said that the girl in Pipers Family Scene was her daughter then the debate is over. Also, if they had gone out with the Highnote at the end of Season 4 I could see a Spin off, or even if they didn't come back after Season 3 I could see a Spin off, or if the Show had been suddenly pulled like Star Trek I could see Charmed Spin offs, Charmed Movies, and Charmed COnventions to fill the fan demand. What happened instead was they ran the show into the ground and exhausted every possible twist and turn to the point that just hinting a "spin off" made the writters leave skid marks running...lol Come on, between the Charmed Ones killing all the Ancient and powerful Demons with the 3 incarnations of the Source, with Chris Killing all the dangerous Demons that rose in the dead demons wake, and with all the Demon that the Avatars and Phycho Leo Killed, And Billie working on the Caste/collective demons (goth/MIB/and Leather clad demons) what is there to really do magical destiney wise? Also, the reason why Wyatt is a White lighter instead of a "King" and the Charmed Ones were Sidelined while Super witch Billie and her Fire starter sister fought the "Ultimate Battle" in lieu for the Charmed Ones v.s. the Triad is that, watching them vanquish the Shadow/Zanku/Nexus a "white light" was being sucked out of them to as the "White Nexus" in the Chandler that made the girls "Charmed" and Wyatt "Twice Blessed" was also Destroyed. Lastly, the deal made with the last Caste Leader meant there was no Demon fighting until Wyatt and Chris were Adults and the demons were once again organized enough to start attacking innocents again, and even when there was a demon to face they would be the leather clad or MIB/Goth dressed ones that would be killable with a potion or Wyatt flicking his wrist <Yawn> What else could they base the series on? Personal Relationship issues with Wyatts and Chris Love life and Careers in between a potion throw to kill a Demon not worth flicking a wrist for? That is the main reason why 3+ million Male viewers switched to watching the Girl gone wild infomercials between Season 4-8....lol So sorry, the Charmed Forever ending had a "They lived happily ever after for generations and generations" cap off for it so It is more likely that WB network will come back on air. |
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