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Post by apollo223 on Nov 10, 2007 17:07:36 GMT -5
I've always wondered who would be stronger the charmed ones with Prue or how it is now with Paige. I know that Paige has the most powers than all her sisters added up but shes the youngest meaning magic is the weakest in her. In season one they always explain how Prue because she was the oldest got the most magical DNA or whatever which means she had the best powers plus her spells were stronger than pipers and phoebes and obviously stronger than Paige's so my question is would the ultimate threat...billy and christy been such a threat if Prue was there and how things would have been different magically wise
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Post by Hansemand on Nov 10, 2007 20:53:25 GMT -5
A question that actually can't be answered, since the whole key issue to that one is the discovery of Paige, it was she who found Billie in the first place and thereby making it possible for Billie to be trained into a powerful witch, who then had the power to find Christy, who then abused Billie and her powers to fight Paige, Phoebe & Piper.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 10, 2007 21:29:16 GMT -5
I don't think there is a question of this. To me although Paige and Prue were their own people and thus Paige was NOT a replacement for Prue just merely a new addition to the family; they represent the same thing. In Charmed Again Phoebe states that the prophecy states that the third sister has the power to move things with her mind. Which both Paige and Prue had although in different ways since Paige's whitelighter blood changed the way it worked for her. So Basically Paige is her own person but she is a new version of the third sister, representing the same thing that Prue did which is the third sister who is supposed to have the power of telekinesis.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Nov 10, 2007 23:26:51 GMT -5
It's all a matter of personal opinion.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 10, 2007 23:44:07 GMT -5
Either way, if Prue had lived on, she definitely would have gotten much stronger in her powers and use of magic. And in the current timeline of the Charmedverse, so will Paige.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 11, 2007 1:02:37 GMT -5
Either way, if Prue had lived on, she definitely would have gotten much stronger in her powers and use of magic. And in the current timeline of the Charmedverse, so will Paige. That relates to what I was saying, that they are equals. They have the same ability(regardless of it working differently for each) and they both will/would get stronger with time and experience. So neither of them contributes more or less to the team. Although thats just my view as Assassin Witch said this is the kind of question that can only be answered by matter of opinion.
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Post by Pipuebeaige on Nov 11, 2007 9:23:37 GMT -5
the origional power of three was the best.prue all the way
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 11, 2007 18:20:41 GMT -5
Really? I thought Paige was a "teleporter".... Note: colehellsangel, I'm not directing my sarcasm at you - - the person knows who she is.
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Post by Triad on Nov 11, 2007 21:53:50 GMT -5
Ahh the good old days. Well, each of us have our own opinion. I just so happen to like the way the sister's characters started out at the beginning, yes the ones where Constance created them after her own experiences. I'm going to be honest, I am not that fond of the new Charmed Ones. I loved Piper as the mediator Prue as the leader, and Phoebe as the immature girl I once knew. And think about it, those roles do blend pretty well. Each one had it's own purpose. While now we have Piper being more Prueish but not quite there, Phoebe is baby-crazed and has not been a mediator at all, and Paige, the once stubborn independent woman has transformed herself into a ditz. Yes, how does one forget to vanquish The Source of ALL Evil. Also with the Power of Three deal, Piper sure did a wonderful job of splitting herself and her sisters off. Paige with Richard Piper at home, and Phoebe...in China. You have to admit that those places have huge gaps between them. Where as Prue would probably keep herself and the family together, because she thinks of the future(Like what Piper said in a S4 episode, where Prue made her Will in advance). Plus, it is absolutely important that the original Charmed Ones had childhood memories. That aspect alone made them strong, and with their growing connections as sisters that were Charmed, their connection is even more stronger, because they did overcome obstacles. As for Forever Charmed, the sister do seem close, but it is most likely from there on that they all went their separate lives and thus having a weakened connection. Like Phoebe in her condo, Paige with Henry, and Piper at home with Leo. Their happy but I think their bond as sister would have deteriorated even more since Season 3, where they were at their best(My Opinion). I always thought the bond was weakened...and when season 3 ended I thought it would be strange. But season 4 disproves that. Piper and Paige have their sister moments. Sure Paige can't say "Remember my 1st grade trip to the zoo?", but that doesn't mean the sisterly bond is weak. Piper and Phoebe love Paige, they love her as though they grew up together and Paige loves them the same. She can't recall past memories, but when's seasons 50, she'll be able to recall when Piper blew up her chair. Yes, but take this into consideration. Pure, Piper, and Phoebe have been with each other since they were very young and that went on to their 20's. Where as Paige and the sisters have been together for 5 years and have already found separate lives. Personally I don't think Piper is that close to Paige, but closer with Phoebe. However I think and still think that her connection with Prue is still paramount in all of her relationships with the other sisters. They were best friends and very close. Heck they even lived together in an apartment before they found out their Charmed destinies. My Point is that Prue Piper and Phoebe have had their bonds with each other for more than 5 years, while Piper Phoebe and Paige have had their connections for 5 years and have already moved on in their lives. To me this doesn't hold up to the Original bonds of the sisters. I reword their bond as not weak but not as strong as the previous bond before Paige came, even before their Charmed destinies. This is what I think: Strong sisterly bond first and Strong witch bond second, beats Strong witch bond first and Strong Sister bond second. If you think about it, the only reason that Paige first got in contact with Phoebe and Piper was when they needed her to help them with magical things, then as they got to know her the sister bond came in, which is why I think the bond with Prue is stronger since they focused on their sisterly bonds first rather than witch bonds.
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Post by ljones on Nov 11, 2007 22:07:15 GMT -5
Thank you , Whitelightertony. It's about time you used your brains and realize it.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 12, 2007 0:06:17 GMT -5
Triad, this is a very very good point when looking at in terms of the sister's bonds. Prue and Piper were definitely best friends as well as sisters. Phoebe too of course, but Prue had issues with her for a while because she moved to New York. Prue and Piper were on their own for a while in their apartment as you stated so they had some time to themselves before Phoebe came along and stumbled upon their Charmed destiny.
Piper in turn had issues with Paige for a short time. Although most of her issues were not with Paige directly more of her still grieving over Prue, but Paige was still a threat because she felt Prue was being replaced. Well thats not suggested directly but that's how I see it because she was very unwelcoming until the end of Hell hath No Fury Which in the Charmed world was like what at least a week time period from Charmed Again? Paige in turn did not really give a reason for Piper to be welcoming once she stole the book and started playing with spells. But thats beside the point. The original Charmed Ones definitely were strongest when it came to their sisterly bond because as you said they grew up together.
But as far as their battling strength and what each third sister brings to the team which is what I read the question to be meant as, I still say they are equals in their powers and thus bring just as much kiss behind to the team although Piper now has the dominant powers with the after AHBL Charmed ones while Prue had the dominant powers among the original Charmed ones. Just since Paige's version of the moving things with the mind power is more as Tony said teleportation of items. Thanx by the way I knew there was a name for it, I just couldn't put my finger on it.
BTW, that was another thing about Paige that made me not take to her at first. I thought we were going to be introduced to this cool new kind of power but its like Oh she just orbs things to her ok. hehe. But I am cool with it now.
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Post by ljones on Nov 12, 2007 0:38:13 GMT -5
Piper continued to be unwelcoming toward Paige . . . even after "Hell Hath No Fury". I can remember a good number of fans commenting about this when Season 4 first aired. And Phoebe was sometimes unwelcoming . . . in a back-handed way.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 12, 2007 0:51:29 GMT -5
Uh, huh -- and you're really one to talk...
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Post by ljones on Nov 12, 2007 2:53:11 GMT -5
Uh, huh -- and you're really one to talk... Oh, I know what exactly I'm talking about.
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 12, 2007 3:10:16 GMT -5
Piper continued to be unwelcoming toward Paige . . . even after "Hell Hath No Fury". I can remember a good number of fans commenting about this when Season 4 first aired. And Phoebe was sometimes unwelcoming . . . in a back-handed way. Well at the end of Hell Hath No Fury she goes to Paige at work and brings her a fruit basket so she started trying at least. What are the other instances are you recalling because I am not. I agree about Phoebe though. Although she was very caring towards her when she was just an innocent, she did get tones with her sometimes. Like in Hell Hath No Fury she although much gentler than Piper also got an urrged reaction to her stealing the book when a welcoming version of phoebe would have understood more than Paige is new to the Charmed world and not have been so stern, because really all Paige's spells were mostly harmless the only one to have some bad effects was the Karma spell. In turn in was her fault that Paige had no idea about the book because she did not make time to sit down with her and discuss it. Piper has a justifiable excuse for that seeing as she was still grieving really hard. But Phoebe could very well have done it yet she did not, she made an excuse not to and then made the mistake of leaving Paige alone with the book as Piper actually managed to point out. So I agree while Phoebe was much better with her than Piper she could have done better herself.
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Post by apollo223 on Nov 15, 2007 18:03:36 GMT -5
ok i dont mean who was better popularity-wise i mean who is magically stronger and theres no way that paige is as strong as prue because of the fact that prue was the first born meaning she had the most magic in her blood u noe?
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Post by colehellsangel on Nov 15, 2007 19:18:02 GMT -5
ok i dont mean who was better popularity-wise i mean who is magically stronger and theres no way that paige is as strong as prue because of the fact that prue was the first born meaning she had the most magic in her blood u noe? And that's exactly the question we are all answering.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 17, 2007 22:57:12 GMT -5
Oh, if only...
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Post by ljones on Nov 18, 2007 7:04:12 GMT -5
Oh, if only... If only what?
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 18, 2007 17:31:19 GMT -5
If only you reasoned out your responses to others.
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