Whats up with the way Prue died?

[mikechase15]

Okay...you know the Part where Prue and piper get sent through the wall right? well when shax was attacking them, why did they just go up to him and stand still? Prue could have sent him flying, and piper could have froze him...even when she was on the ground! i mean they have been fighting Demans for about 3 years they should have known better to not stand still in front of a powerful Deman like Shax. Dont you think that they could have done a better ending for Prue? and at least make them put up some sort of a fight? (just so you know im not hating on them)

[Assassin Witch]

They were fighting. They did try to use their powers. But, it's difficult when the big wind assassin is who you're fighting.

When they were on the ground, they were trying to get up and then with Prue, she pushed the Doc out of the way before Shax sent her flying. And Piper...she was sliding and had to get her footing before she could raise her arms, and then she got sent flying. Honestly, there wasn't enough time for them to really do anything, and even so, he was a VERY powerful demon and he might have been immune to some of their powers, like freezing.

[The Original P3]

Actually, Prue's main concern was not to fight but to save the Doctor. Assassin got it right that Prue pushed the doc out of the way. Watch and you see that the wind blast missed the doc only by a fraction and hit Prue instead. She had absolutely no time to fight back with her powers and took the blow herself in the sacrifice of saving an innocent.

I once thought the same about Piper though. That she could have done something except stand there. But a lot was going on, she got up after having seen her sister thrown through the wall, and again didn't actually have time to react. You also have to realize that Piper's powers were way out of wack at this point. She was freezing and blowing up at random, and like Assassin pointed out, it's likely that Shax would have been immune from her freezing power. Blowing him up was only a temporary solution when she was able to do that. She couldn't be sure what would happen so I think that goes along with Piper's hesitation.

[Esmeralda]

There's also the point that she must've been shocked seeing Prue flying through the wall! I think *she* froze, so that's why she didn't use either power.

As TOP3 points out, there was just too much going on in much too short of time. If two sisters saying the spell together couldn't kill him, I doubt if any of their powers could--only three sisters saying the spell (although I still think "The Power of Three Shall Set Us Free" would've also worked) together would take care of him. Once Phoebe was down There with her sweetie rather than helping her sisters, her sisters were doomed. She was lucky she didn't lose both sisters.

[ljones]

Once Phoebe was down There with her sweetie rather than helping her sisters, her sisters were doomed. She was lucky she didn't lose both sisters.

How was Phoebe to know that Shax would attack them again? Or that Tempus would turn back time in order for Shax to attack them?

And the only way that Phoebe could get to the Source's Realm to find Cole . . . was with the help of Prue and Piper. Why did they help her? Why didn't they simply refuse to help Phoebe until they were certain that they had dealt with Shax permanently?

And why did Prue insist upon dragging Piper out of the house to hunt down Shax? Why not simply remain in the manor and set up a defense plan to deal with Shax, in case he decides to return to kill the doctor?

[Esmeralda]

ljones said:

Once Phoebe was down There with her sweetie rather than helping her sisters, her sisters were doomed. She was lucky she didn't lose both sisters.

How was Phoebe to know that Shax would attack them again? Or that Tempus would turn back time in order for Shax to attack them?

And the only way that Phoebe could get to the Source's Realm to find Cole . . . was with the help of Prue and Piper. Why did they help her? Why didn't they simply refuse to help Phoebe until they were certain that they had dealt with Shax permanently?

And why did Prue insist upon dragging Piper out of the house to hunt down Shax? Why not simply remain in the manor and set up a defense plan to deal with Shax, in case he decides to return to kill the doctor?

You're absolutely right about all of that. But seeing what happened at the beginning of All Hell Breaks Loose and what happens at the end shows that even if all of that hadn't happened, Phoebe still could've been on the stairs, saying the spell that prevented Prue's death. She would not have been Down There if she was still concentrating on saving Cole more than saving the doctor. Had she not been Down There, Leo wouldn't have had to go Down There. Had Leo not gone Down There, Piper wouldn't have died, and if Piper hadn't died, neither would Prue. The main fault still lies with Phoebe. She's the one to blame for her sister's death.

[whitelightertony]

She was freezing and blowing up at random, and like Assassin pointed out, it's likely that Shax would have been immune from her freezing power.

I think it's likely that Shax would have been immune to both Piper's temporal stasis and Prue's telekinesis.

[colehellsangel]

xcharmed1x said:

Actually, Prue's main concern was not to fight but to save the Doctor. Assassin got it right that Prue pushed the doc out of the way. Watch and you see that the wind blast missed the doc only by a fraction and hit Prue instead. She had absolutely no time to fight back with her powers and took the blow herself in the sacrifice of saving an innocent.

I once thought the same about Piper though. That she could have done something except stand there. But a lot was going on, she got up after having seen her sister thrown through the wall, and again didn't actually have time to react. You also have to realize that Piper's powers were way out of wack at this point. She was freezing and blowing up at random, and like Assassin pointed out, it's likely that Shax would have been immune from her freezing power. Blowing him up was only a temporary solution when she was able to do that. She couldn't be sure what would happen so I think that goes along with Piper's hesitation.

Not only is this correct but the writers could not allow Prue to win because Shannon was fired from the show.

[Assassin Witch]

colehellsangel said:

Not only is this correct but the writers could not allow Prue to win because Shannon was fired from the show.

I think this is irrelevant for the sake of discussing how Prue died.

If we used a behind the scenes explaination for everything.....we wouldn't be discussing the show.

[ljones]

You're absolutely right about all of that. But seeing what happened at the beginning of All Hell Breaks Loose and what happens at the end shows that even if all of that hadn't happened, Phoebe still could've been on the stairs, saying the spell that prevented Prue's death.

Are you blaming most of what happened on Phoebe's shoulders?

Because I'm placing most of the blame on Prue. She was the one who started the whole mess by dragging Piper out of the house to hunt down Shax. She forgot an important lesson that they had learned in Season 1's "Which Prue Is It Anyway?" - home was where they were the strongest and it also gave them the opportunity to set up defense. If Prue (and Piper) had remained at the manor, they could have prepared themselves for Shax's next attack. Even more importantly, they would have never been exposed by the media.

She would not have been Down There if she was still concentrating on saving Cole more than saving the doctor.

You blame Phoebe for being in the Source's Realm to find Cole . . . yet, you absolve Prue and Piper of any blame for helping Prue travel down there in the first place. Curious.

[pheobs]

well it wasnt i agree with ljones but then again they had to make it so prue would die since was fired or quit i feget!!


so yeaa


^_^ pheobs

[~B@MeLiSsA30@B~]

I didn't like how Prue died.

[ArchAngel]

colehellsangel said:

Not only is this correct but the writers could not allow Prue to win because Shannon was fired from the show.

I belive the bleeding from the back of the head, Hears, mouth, and nose was the Director's Idea to emphazise that Prue was more critically injured then Piper and would be dead in 30 seconds compared to Piper's 3 minutes...takes 2 minutes and 55 seconds to orb back to the Manor from the Underworld...do the Math

How many people are going to look up if Shannen Directed that Eppisode and made sure it was clear that Prue was DOA?

[ljones]

I belive the bleeding from the back of the head, Hears, mouth, and nose was the Director's Idea to emphazise that Prue was more critically injured then Piper and would be dead in 30 seconds compared to Piper's 3 minutes...takes 2 minutes and 55 seconds to orb back to the Manor from the Underworld...do the Math

Why not simply state that none of us really know the exact details of what happened? For all we know, Piper was bleeding internally. WE DON'T KNOW.

[louislemon]

Feb 2, 2008 21:38:21 GMT -5 The Original P3 said:

Actually, Prue's main concern was not to fight but to save the Doctor. Assassin got it right that Prue pushed the doc out of the way. Watch and you see that the wind blast missed the doc only by a fraction and hit Prue instead. She had absolutely no time to fight back with her powers and took the blow herself in the sacrifice of saving an innocent.

I once thought the same about Piper though. That she could have done something except stand there. But a lot was going on, she got up after having seen her sister thrown through the wall, and again didn't actually have time to react. You also have to realize that Piper's powers were way out of wack at this point. She was freezing and blowing up at random, and like Assassin pointed out, it's likely that Shax would have been immune from her freezing power. Blowing him up was only a temporary solution when she was able to do that. She couldn't be sure what would happen so I think that goes along with Piper's hesitation.

Prue could have used her powers and push the doctor to safety or she could have even astral projected and used herself as a barrier in front of him or anything, really. I like the way Prue does I think it was a cool way to end a character but that’s I wanted something better. Prue died saving an innocent (well, he died but you know) and that’s SO Prue. She would die for an innocent.

Prue deserved a better ending most definitely but that scene of Prue being sent through the wall by Shax has always stayed with me. It’s epic.

Piper could have and should have done more. I love Piper and people are saying she was shocked at seeing her sister and I understand that but she has time to freeze or blow him up. People have fast reactions especially when we’re scared and Piper is used to this sort of life. She could have frozen the wind blast and called for Leo and Phoebe.

I like these discussions.