Elder
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"I'd still take 'good' that's not always good, over 'bad' that's NEVER good"
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Post by Elder on May 17, 2009 10:41:35 GMT -5
Is it possible the last season of the show was not good because they knew it was the last season and they just wanted to get it over with?
Especially folks like Marnette (only in for 8 episodes).
Why give it your all when you know there won't be any more?
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Post by Astral Echo on May 17, 2009 13:30:37 GMT -5
Why give it your all when you know there won't be any more? Because you owe to the fans to give it your all. I believe Alyssa and Holly did, unfortunately the material just wasn't there. Kaley, even though we criticize her, did put alot of effort in there! |
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Post by abraxas18978 on May 17, 2009 14:33:58 GMT -5
I LOVED Season 8, even with some of the things that I didn't care for.
It was the last season and I was going to enjoy it no matter what, but the thing I hated was what Kern said in one of the commentaries he did for season 8; he said something to the effect of after 8 years, he wanted to give the girls some much needed time-off and that it was the big reason behind the 'new identities.'
Personally, I could have slapped Kern for that comment. I mean, it IS the last season; the girls would not have minded working harder and longer for the fans...it just seemed like an 'f*** you' to the fans.
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Post by roseyc2 on May 18, 2009 12:54:35 GMT -5
They weren't canceled until May of that year. So they were hoping for hope sake that they were going to be coming back. But they didn't. So his comments were misguided and I agree it didn't make sense. But I had a problem with the whole season. I wanted a proper send off but the season 8 ruined whatever attempt at goodbye it accomplished. I just wished they would have come back for a movie finale instead of the whole season considering how they wrote them morphing into their cousins and Billie and Christy and lame attempt at bringing the Triad back and the source and all. It was just a mess.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 18, 2009 13:29:20 GMT -5
Why give it your all when you know there won't be any more? Um..for your career? Professionalism? That's actually quite an ignorant comment to make. If every actor acted like Alyssa and Rose did near the end of Charmed then all series finales would suck. What about if Shannen hadn't put her all into AHBL? She was pretty certain that would be her last at the time (though not confirmed until later when she received her pink slip) and had she just thought "oh skrew it.." then her performance may not have been quite as earth shattering. Same goes for movies..who cares? Last scene of the movie you're shooting..oh who cares..you're done. That's just a piss poor attitude to have in general. |
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Post by Astral Echo on May 18, 2009 16:14:06 GMT -5
Alyssa wasn't poor. Infact she was quite entertaining come the end of the season.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 18, 2009 17:04:22 GMT -5
Alyssa wasn't poor. Infact she was quite entertaining come the end of the season. Near the end possibly, though that is a matter of opinion because nothing she did or said stuck out to me. I felt like I was listening to her read lines off a cue card. But never-the-less, no matter how she was in the end of the season, seasons 7 and 8 total had very lackluster performances on her part. |
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on May 18, 2009 17:36:28 GMT -5
Very true. The only one who gave a consistently great performance through the last two years was Holly. Much as I hated the way her character had changed, there was no doubt that the other two had totally mailed it in. And to think that Holly was pregnant during both Season 6 and Season 8. That just gives me more respect for her as an actress.
The other two just seemed to be going through the motions and not much else. I often wondered if that's why they wanted to give them the break by having them "glamour", in hopes that the break would help the other two to give better performances. I wonder if they'd not been part of the first arc, as was originally rumored, if that would've been the case. Although I somehow doubt it...
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Post by abraxas18978 on May 18, 2009 18:19:17 GMT -5
Despite the fact a lot of you did not enjoy Season 7 and/or Season 8, I must say that I too was impressed with what Holly had created in her character. I am sure that her character had become confusing on the page as the years passed, and Holly brought a real depth to 'Piper.'
Having said that, I also thought Rose did a great job in Season 7. I think she was really great in the 'Charmed Noir' episode since she personally loved that era so much. As for Alyssa, her character became less and less exciting. 'Phoebe' was still sexy, however, Alyssa almost evoked that she was well...kinda bored. Especially in 'Forever Charmed,' Alyssa looked like she was sleeping on the job.
And I will agree with most of you when I say that Season 7 and Season 8 had a lot more 'throwaway' episodes than the other seasons. We all dislike some episodes here and there for past seasons, however, the last two seasons seemed to have a lot more than in previous years.
For instance:
Season 7: A Call to Arms (cringe-worthy for me)
Season 8: Hulkus Pocus (just STUPID)
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Post by dylan345 on May 18, 2009 18:43:47 GMT -5
abraxas: I so agree about "A Call To Arms." I can hardly watch that episode. Just thinking about it hurts. And the premise of "Hulkus Pocus" was embarrassing too, but I did love the one scene when Phoebe is in the kitchen trying to get ice for Billie when she's sick, and when there is none she gets frustrated and throws the bowl she was holding. I remember when I first saw that, and I was struck by the emotion she showed. That was good acting on her part, but there aren't many other times in the later seasons I can think of when I was taken aback by Alyssa's acting like I was then. I don't think she hardly ever matched the crying scene in "Morality Bites." Now that was good acting.
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Post by roseyc2 on May 20, 2009 11:24:30 GMT -5
Somehow I think that Kern was planning on spinning off the Charmed with the Sons with Leo and Piper staying on and Paige and Phoebe going away and cameo throughout the season. Rose was ready to leave before that anyways looked like the end of season 6. Alyssa thought her movie career or she thought she would get a show of her own and was about to take off. But they were still under contract. The then WB didn't won't that. Kern was spent. He'd ran out of ideas for the sisters. Season 7 showed that. So he let his writers basically run the show. That's when the rules were laxed and all sorts of stuff went haywire. The Pirate show and the Blue Moon show and Call to Arms and Brody and the Avatars were not good ideas
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Post by The Original P3 on May 20, 2009 12:01:38 GMT -5
Somehow I think that Kern was planning on spinning off the Charmed with the Sons with Leo and Piper staying on and Paige and Phoebe going away and cameo throughout the season. Rose was ready to leave before that anyways looked like the end of season 6. Alyssa thought her movie career or she thought she would get a show of her own and was about to take off. But they were still under contract. The then WB didn't won't that. Kern was spent. He'd ran out of ideas for the sisters. Season 7 showed that. So he let his writers basically run the show. That's when the rules were laxed and all sorts of stuff went haywire. The Pirate show and the Blue Moon show and Call to Arms and Brody and the Avatars were not good ideas The spin-off with Chris and Wyatt was a fan-fabrication. The network never once showed any interest in actually pursuing a series with this idea. The only thought of a spin-off was about Billie and Christy and that idea failed miserably since Billie and Christy did not sit well with the fans to begin with, much less starting a whole new show about them. Kern may have let the writers take the wheel, but that doesn't excuse his behavior and attitude towards the series. You don't sit back in your office drinking lattes while your show becomes the laughing stock of the network. Because now everytime a show turns to utter disgust (as One Tree Hill has just accomplished on The CW), I compare it to the complete downfall that was Charmed. Unfortunately, it's turning into a regular statement for me, "Charmed pt 2" or "Pulling a Charmed" |
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Post by sweetprincess on May 20, 2009 12:13:27 GMT -5
i love season 8 because you so the girls fall in love and kick ass i loved the end one it was ace i love all the seasons but if i had an fave it would be season 8
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Post by pppiper on May 20, 2009 12:40:03 GMT -5
i liked season 8 the only thing i would not have done is marry all the girls off becuse i always thought that phoebe would marry and have kids but we didnt need to meet coop we could have just seen a guy like we saw the girls in the last episode. Then i thought paige would have married henry but not so soon and not have any kids.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 20, 2009 12:51:45 GMT -5
me to pppiper with you i would love it if there brought a season 9 out Please god no. Seasons 7 and 8 were unbearable enough as is.. Season 9...*shudders*.. They shouldn't have married off all the sisters anyways. That move was idiotic (as was pretty much every move and decision made in seasons 7 and 8). I *may* have been able to buy Paige getting married to Henry..had they brought him in during season 7 instead of Brody who was just a waste of space. Then have her relationship with Henry develop to an engagement in season 8 but we don't see the wedding. Coop I didn't buy in the slightest. He was thrown in there to be Phoebe's baby daddy because of her ridiculous obsession with finding her baby daddy. The two had no chemistry. |
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Post by sweetprincess on May 20, 2009 12:57:59 GMT -5
i think there should of just keep it were there just kick butt to save leo of course and save the would then keep the ending then same so fans would be like wo there wow there get with  |
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Reality Bites
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Post by Reality Bites on May 20, 2009 13:20:25 GMT -5
You don't sit back in your office drinking lattes while your show becomes the laughing stock of the network. Because now everytime a show turns to utter disgust (as One Tree Hill has just accomplished on The CW), I compare it to the complete downfall that was Charmed. Unfortunately, it's turning into a regular statement for me, "Charmed pt 2" or "Pulling a Charmed" OMG! I thought I was the only one! (Not really, but didn't expect anyone to ever admit to it). I say the same thing about ONE TREE HILL, that show became RIDICULOUS around its own season five as well, if not some time before that (not that I actually watched the show past its first season). I know they make fun of it on the E channel's THE SOUP. I think its sad that one of my favorite shows is now the example of a television series becoming a running a joke in the industry... CHARMED is definitely a guilty pleasure. |
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Post by sweetprincess on May 20, 2009 13:24:30 GMT -5
i guess your not the only one now i wish when there do ends there should do them were there make there fans go wow not or i now that x
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Post by The Original P3 on May 20, 2009 13:41:54 GMT -5
You don't sit back in your office drinking lattes while your show becomes the laughing stock of the network. Because now everytime a show turns to utter disgust (as One Tree Hill has just accomplished on The CW), I compare it to the complete downfall that was Charmed. Unfortunately, it's turning into a regular statement for me, "Charmed pt 2" or "Pulling a Charmed" OMG! I thought I was the only one! (Not really, but didn't expect anyone to ever admit to it). I say the same thing about ONE TREE HILL, that show became RIDICULOUS around its own season five as well, if not some time before that (not that I actually watched the show past its first season). I know they make fun of it on the E channel's THE SOUP. I think its sad that one of my favorite shows is now the example of a television series becoming a running a joke in the industry... CHARMED is definitely a guilty pleasure. OT: OTH is completely laughable now. It's first three seasons were the best..4 was alright, 5 was everywhere and 6 was downright disgusting. By some miracle it was renewed for a 7th season and I'm PRAYING it ends there. If not for the shows sake then for the sake of humanity/sanity everywhere. But I agree it's very sad that Charmed has become the example to follow on how NOT to run your show. There have been shows before that decline in the later seasons but that's not surprising. But to see it take the nose dive that Charmed did..it set a new low. |
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Post by sweetprincess on May 20, 2009 13:54:21 GMT -5
i just hope one there think of doing a season 9 charmed it would be ace |
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