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Post by CharmedFan4Ever on Aug 17, 2007 15:45:14 GMT -5
I also was thinking of Prue, not only in Season 7, but Season 8 as well. There were so many opportunties to bring SD back into the fold, but most notable during Season 8 when the Triad returned. If Prue had been watching (or been allowed to in the anti-Kern Charmedverse), she would have come back to help her sisters kick the crap out of Christy and the Triad. Prue was always the mother figure of the others and I can't see her letting something happen to them without stepping in somehow or someway.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 17, 2007 15:59:06 GMT -5
No, I don't think Prue would've kicked the crap out of Christy. She would've seen Christy as the Ultimate Innocent--it was *NOT* her fault that she was kidnapped as a child! Instead Prue would've kicked the crap out of her sisters for judging a fellow witch that way, and then helped them kick crap out of the *true* evil--Dumain and the Triad!
Then Prue would've kicked the crap out of Piper for treating Leo like her own private errand boy! She would've talked Piper into either letting him be who he destined to be--an angel--or sending him back to where he could truly be a mortal--back to his own time--and if Piper wanted to take her sons, bind their powers and go back there with him and have her own normal life with Leo as a doctor and Piper as a normal 50's housewife, that would be fine, otherwise, quit your whining, both of you, and let's go find another innocent to save! (And, if either of those had happened--Leo either got his wings back or went back to the 50's, he wouldn't have been killed in a car accident, so he wouldn't have had to be frozen!)
She also would've kicked the crap out of Piper for foisting her magical sons off on their father--A MORTAL, for Pete's sakes! What if a demon had attacked THEM??
And, oh, would she have kicked the crap out of Piper for using her magic to turn reporters--MORTALS!!--into rats!
She also would've kicked the crap out of Phoebe for treating BILLIE as a sister more than she treated her own sisters, especially Piper! And when Phoebe would go off with Coop when innocents needed the Charmed Ones?? Oh, would Prue have done some a$$-kicking!
And Prue would've kicked the crap out of Billie for exposing magic as badly as she did and for treating Prue's sisters so horribly after the way they had been so wonderful to her.
That's the sort of mother-figure that Prue was for Piper and Phoebe, something they both desperately needed!
And, oh, if Prue could've gotten a hold of Kernus, the Demon of Inconsistency, oh, would she have kicked the crap out of HIM!
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Post by Kura on Aug 17, 2007 17:56:06 GMT -5
I also was thinking of Prue, not only in Season 7, but Season 8 as well. There were so many opportunties to bring SD back into the fold, but most notable during Season 8 when the Triad returned. If Prue had been watching (or been allowed to in the anti-Kern Charmedverse), she would have come back to help her sisters kick the crap out of Christy and the Triad. Prue was always the mother figure of the others and I can't see her letting something happen to them without stepping in somehow or someway. Ehh.. not necessarily true.
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Post by whitelightertony on Aug 18, 2007 0:33:31 GMT -5
Speaking of Prue's astral projection, in AHBL when the reporters were blocking the driveway, why couldn't Prue have astral projected to the hospital with Piper in tow?
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Post by apollo223 on Aug 18, 2007 11:19:51 GMT -5
i think that prue wouldnt turn evil seeing as evil had killed her sister so i think she would just become lik super witch and go on a demon rampage and not giving a *blank* about innocents anymore aswell as resenting paige because she'll see her as an intrusion so yea i can see her just blaming every1 around her aswell as herself for the death
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Post by vandergraafk on Aug 20, 2007 14:30:14 GMT -5
Whoa! Since when was it possible to carry freight when astral projecting? As I understand astral projection, it involves the cloning of oneself. Even if astral Prue had gotten to the hospital, the transport would have been a cloned Piper. The real Piper would have died alone in the manor!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 20, 2007 14:58:21 GMT -5
Can astral projections perform spells? I always thought they couldn't and hence The Charmed Ones *should've* become heroines like Prue by being blown to kingdom come at the end of Season Seven, leaving Mortal Leo and Mortal Victor to raise Magical Wyatt and Magical Chris! Can anyone say "Spinoff" If only...
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Post by whitelightertony on Aug 20, 2007 20:07:21 GMT -5
Well, in "Astral Monkey," it's implied that Dr. Williamson transported items (offscreen) when astral projecting to the hospital as part of his vengeance quest.
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Post by ghost666 on Aug 21, 2007 14:00:44 GMT -5
well he got all mad with power at the end
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 21, 2007 14:17:28 GMT -5
Due to the fact that his body couldn't stand the Warren powers, the way the sisters could.
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Post by whitelightertony on Aug 22, 2007 21:02:16 GMT -5
So Curtis Williamson was suddenly able to use astral projection in a way that Prue couldn't?
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Post by MarAcev on Aug 23, 2007 18:56:33 GMT -5
I thought he was using Piper's freezing power to prevent people from seeing him come in and out. I never heard anything about him using AP.
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Post by vandergraafk on Aug 24, 2007 10:41:05 GMT -5
Whether Dr. Williamson could astrally project material objects is beside the point. Suppose Prue could have astrally projected Piper to the hospital, it still wouldn't heal the dying Piper at the manor. Dr. Griffiths might have healed a clone and maybe this clone could have replaced Piper. But ...
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Post by iamthesun on Dec 19, 2013 13:07:51 GMT -5
*Bump* in light of a persistent pest we have on the forum..
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 19, 2013 13:35:41 GMT -5
Hehehe! Good job! But what's *your* reaction to this thread?
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Post by iamthesun on Dec 19, 2013 13:46:48 GMT -5
hmm I cant see her ever turning evil personally. She was strong-willed and tough but not evil.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 19, 2013 16:28:12 GMT -5
It all depends upon the defininition of "evil". I count the S7 Elders as much more evil than any demon we saw. I also count Phoebe and Paige as evil when they set up Rick to be murdered in "Hyde School Reunion" and when the Charmed Ones committed first-degree murder by planning and then excuting the murder of the Jenkinses in "Kill Billie, Vol 2" (the fact that the Jenkinses also wanted to murder them does not justify first-degree murder - the wrong thing done for the right reason is still wrong - and they actually *planned* their murder when they also took in the Hollow - so it was *NOT* done in self-defense.), and when they thought that uptopia meant having their own little paradise even when it took away everyone else's free will. I count Piper as evil when she turned a reporter into a turkey.
All of the sisters were evil at one time or another. And I can see Prue doing some of these given the right motivation (just remembering what she did to those reporters tells you all you need to know about her or what she almost did to Nathaniel Pratt in "Morality Bites" - good motivation or not, using her magic that way was evil), and, OH, can I see her as the fury if she survived and either Piper or Phoebe didn't! And in *that* state, I can see the Source taking her over, the way he should've taken over Piper long before he possessed Cole - Piper should've been the evil one, not Phoebe.
We never really saw someone on the show start off as good and then turn evil and stay evil. I can't see Prue doing that either.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 19, 2013 16:47:15 GMT -5
Thinking about this, what exactly evil did the demons ever do? I mean outside of trying to kill the Charmed Ones, who were trying to kill them? If it was okay for the Charmed Ones to plan how to kill the Jenkinses who were trying to kill them and then actually do it,, isn't it okay for the demons to plan on and actually kill the Charmed Ones who wanted to kill them?
On Charmed, what's truly the difference between Good and Evil? Didn't Season Seven prove that it depends on whose side you're on?
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Post by ljones on Dec 19, 2013 20:34:30 GMT -5
I have a theoretical question concerning Prue. If Piper died or Phoebe even, could you see Prue going evil or insane like Willow did in "Buffy?" Yes. Considering how close she came to giving in to evil "Death Takes a Halliwell", due to her weariness over her loved ones' deaths and her failure to save Inspector Davidson. So . . . yes. I do believe she could have gone evil. I would have to say the same about her sisters. Even Leo proved he was capable of succumbing to evil over the loss of a loved one. Can you imagine Prue going after Cole when he tried to turn Prue's little sister into his Queen of the Underworld??? And I do believe given that scenario, Paige wouldn't have been the only sister who realized that Cole was possessed!Yes, I can. On the other hand, I can also see Prue being the only one intelligent enough to wonder how Cole became the Source. Thinking about this, what exactly evil did the demons ever do? I mean outside of trying to kill the Charmed Ones, who were trying to kill them? If it was okay for the Charmed Ones to plan how to kill the Jenkinses who were trying to kill them and then actually do it,, isn't it okay for the demons to plan on and actually kill the Charmed Ones who wanted to kill them?
On Charmed, what's truly the difference between Good and Evil? Didn't Season Seven prove that it depends on whose side you're on?I get the feeling you've been watching or reading a lot of "STAR WARS". And I applaud you. Whether Dr. Williamson could astrally project material objects is beside the point. Suppose Prue could have astrally projected Piper to the hospital, it still wouldn't heal the dying Piper at the manor. Dr. Griffiths might have healed a clone and maybe this clone could have replaced Piper. But ...Astral projection is not teleportation. An astral projection is not a clone or a solid matter. She also would've kicked the crap out of Piper for foisting her magical sons off on their father--A MORTAL, for Pete's sakes! What if a demon had attacked THEM??I don't understand this comment. Are you saying that as a mortal, Leo shouldn't have the right to raise his own sons?
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Post by forbuss on Dec 19, 2013 22:56:00 GMT -5
I think that there is good and evil in everyone and which one comes out is really circumstantial, and many examples have been given of this in the last few posts. It also depends on your definition of evil.. If we are going by what Phoebe said in Morality Bites, then yes the Charmed ones did commit some evil acts. I personally don't consider some of these things evil, but that is the way I see it.
For example, in AHBL, Prue used her powers to throw reporters and civilians out of her way, as well as the SWAT team - she hurt them, definitely the reporters outside the manor. I don't see this as an evil act, because she was trying to save Piper. Those people on the lawn were committing evil acts, and Prue tried to reason with them and they didn't listen. I don't see that as evil.
What happened in season 8 is a different can of worms though haha.
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