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Post by leosgirl on May 17, 2006 14:08:47 GMT -5
when prue was older she obviously helped grams raise piper and phoebe but i hardly think that when she was 7 grams made her raise her sisters prue wanted to help raise her sisters she is the protective one and is the oldest that's the way she was she gave up a lot to help people and she did that with her sisters
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Post by Triad on May 17, 2006 14:31:15 GMT -5
At the age of six or seven? You expect me to believe that Grams just stood back and allowed Prue to rob herself of her own childhood? First of all I did not say anything about Prue taking the responsibilities at such a young age. I just stated that she had a natural protective personality. What I really meant was that she slowly put pressure into herself as she was growing up, when she could comprehend the loss of her mother easier. So by eventually realizing that without a mother and how much that would affect the family, she stepped it up and became what she was. Sure the loss of her mother and Gram's influence helped in make her what she was, I still think that those events just brought her protective personality to the next level.
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Post by p3charm on May 17, 2006 15:00:04 GMT -5
At the age of six or seven? You expect me to believe that Grams just stood back and allowed Prue to rob herself of her own childhood? Of course she did not do it all at once. I'm sure it was a gradual process and then when she was older (probably around 10ish like The Original P3 said) she took on more responsibilities then the average child of her age. What are you trying to argue about anyways? It is a fact that Prue sacrificed so much so that she could look after her sisters. For example, she never wanted to work at the museum or at Bucklands but she did it anyway so that she could support her sisters. Prue always wanted to go into photography but she sacrificed that dream for her sisters.
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Post by jennf10 on May 17, 2006 17:20:41 GMT -5
Prue was protective of her sisters at a young age. Probably came from watching their mother die. Grams knew what the girls would become and should have known that Prue had the strongest power. I'm sure this played a role in the way she raised Prue. How could it have not?
And Triad is right, Prue was just naturally this way. The same way that Piper is a natural mother.
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Post by oldwitch on May 17, 2006 17:45:52 GMT -5
My earlier post has been misquoted. I did not say that Prue took over the role of parent when Patty died. That occured with the death of Grams. Prue then took over as head of the family and tried to keep the family together as Grams wished. If you recall from earlier seasons, Prue had wanted to go away to college, but Grams didn't let her. She took the job at Buckland's to be close to home, when she really wanted to become a photojournalist. Grams was the sole person responsible for raising the girls while they were little, not Prue. Once Prue came into her powers she became the leader and the most powerful. Piper did not receive her stronger power until Season 3. By then, the writers probably were aware that Shannen was leaving and they needed to give a power boost the next eldest sister. Prue was always the voice of reason.
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Post by #1 Nightwish Fan AKA Amy Lee on May 17, 2006 19:53:56 GMT -5
At the age of six or seven? You expect me to believe that Grams just stood back and allowed Prue to rob herself of her own childhood? Many older sisters love taking care of their yuonger siblings, I doubt Prue was any different, she wouldn't have looked after them if she didn't want to.
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Post by prue on May 17, 2006 20:52:37 GMT -5
Prue was always protective of her sisters. Even when she was growing up. I highly doubt that she took over at a young age... there were many references to Prue's wild side as a teenager in Prewitched. Once they received their powers and Prue realized how it related to her mothers death, she instinctively began to protect her sisters, even Andy, from what they had to face as Charmed Ones. She knew a demon killed her mother, and she didn't want to let that happen to Piper or Phoebe. Magic is what helped her to overcome her fears and be able to say "I love you" again to her sisters.
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Post by ljones on May 18, 2006 13:46:14 GMT -5
At the expense of her childhood . . . and her psyche?
C'mon guys! You saw how her she had ended up paying the price for all of those years of being protective . . . she had a breakdown in both "Just Harried" and "Death Takes a Halliwell". And after all that, you still see nothing wrong with her being so protective at such a young age?
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Post by Triad on May 18, 2006 14:19:13 GMT -5
At the expense of her childhood . . . and her psyche? C'mon guys! You saw how her she had ended up paying the price for all of those years of being protective . . . she had a breakdown in both "Just Harried" and "Death Takes a Halliwell". And after all that, you still see nothing wrong with her being so protective at such a young age? Well you know what, it is called stress Lots of people have stress. There is no implication that she was that over protective at such a young age, but if she was, it was her personality. In Just Harried she is still seen as the oldest, and you know what? Grams is gone as with Patty. If anything, she became more protective and more stressed when Grams died, and even more when she found out that she was a witch. From there on she knew she had to protect her sisters, especially after she found out that Patty died from a demon. I cannot stress anymore, that she is like that because it is her personality. If a person is proud and strict it does not have to mean that he or she has a damaged psyche. Sure she has issues, but in the span that Prue was on the show she has overcome them. Did you see her finally mourn for her mother? Yes. Did you ever she her us her astral projection as an escape for responsibilities again? No. Did she start saying I love you to Piper and Phoebe? Yes. Did she get over Andy's death? Yes. It's not the point that her psyche is damaged, but she has an incredibly strong one. This is what Prue is, this is the natural Prue. She is strong, and knows what she wants and very protective of her family. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her acting overprotective with her sisters and the rest of her family.
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Post by p3charm on May 18, 2006 18:51:15 GMT -5
At the expense of her childhood . . . and her psyche? C'mon guys! You saw how her she had ended up paying the price for all of those years of being protective . . . she had a breakdown in both "Just Harried" and "Death Takes a Halliwell". And after all that, you still see nothing wrong with her being so protective at such a young age? Who has ever said that she was that protective and everything when she was 6 or 7 as you say? There is proof that she helped take care of her sisters. Helping and actually doing are two completely different things. She was incredibly stressed out in Just Harried because she was trying to get ready for Piper's wedding and make sure she was ok with Patty not being there along with doing everything else. This is called stress and everyone gets stressed out from time to time. Tell me one person who does not ever get stressed out now and then...I would love to meet them and see how they do it. Stress is something that just happens once you get older. Of course she broke down in Death Takes A Halliwell!! She was reminded of when her mother died and she finally accepted her mothers death and actually grieved. That is a natural thing to do when you lose someone close to you, especially a parent. Trust me I know all about that because I lost my dad a bit more then a year ago. If you are actually blaming her for breaking down in that episode then you couldn't have ever lost someone you were so close to like that. It is natural and since she was so little when it actually happened she didn't handle it so it came back to bite her in the butt later. Kind of like when Piper became a fury.
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Post by misskitty66 on May 20, 2006 18:16:23 GMT -5
unfortunately it's always been the eldest's job to look after the younger siblings... least it was in my family and my son is more responsibly for his sisters cause he's the eldest. however, on prue yeah i think she was a glue for the sisters. kept them on track. at all times. and out of all of the girls she was the one with the least boyfriends cause she was so worried that it would distract her from the craft. that's my opinion. she was bossy, but in a good way... i think it was bad that she died. would of been quite a thrill to see all 4 girls together. her and paige i think would of been great friends/sisters. just an opinion really.
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Post by violetprue on May 23, 2006 7:06:04 GMT -5
Grams wanted that bond to form between the three of them because she knew they would become the Charmed Ones. That statements bothers me. (only a very little, don't worry) In "Charmed Again" and "Pre Witched" it's implied Penny and Patty knew, but in "That 70's Episode" and "Forever Charmed" both Patty and Penny were surprised that the girls were the Charmed Ones. So we can't be sure Penny or Patty knew.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 23, 2006 7:11:00 GMT -5
They find out in That 70's Episode that Prue, Piper and Phoebe are the Charmed Ones. So that they knew in Charmed Again and Prewitched isn't surprising since that's clearly afterwards.
In Forever Charmed, I understand Patty being surprised because this timeline was before That 70's Episode since Patty and Victor were still together. Grams is the one that doesn't make any sense. But I can overlook it since Charmed's middle name is inconsistancy.
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Post by violetprue on May 23, 2006 7:37:46 GMT -5
Yeah, but in "That 70's Episode", both Grams and Patty are surprised the girls are the Charmed Ones. Last Sunday's episode messed up a lot of previous episodes! Like in "Forever Charmed", Penny didn't know who Piper was. But if she had seen her in "That 70's Episode", she would have remembered. And, why did Penny not recognize Leo? He was a Whitelighter in the 60's (Witchstock) who hung around the Manor, but she didn't say anything. And another thing, didn't Prue tell Phoebe in "Animal Pragmatism" that Phoebe was conceived on the back seat of a car? Yet Sunday we saw it happened in the Manor. And if Piper and Leo had shimmered in when Phoebe had just been conceived, wouldn't Patty already had known she was pregnant in "that 70's Episode"? "That 70's Episode" took place after Piper and Leo came to see Patty and Victor. Piper told Patty she was pregnant in the finale, but in "That 70's Episode", she also told Patty she was pregnant. LOL They messed a whole lot up with Sunday's eppi!
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Post by The Original P3 on May 23, 2006 14:14:40 GMT -5
The most messed up was Grams'. She should have known who Piper was yes. But honestly, regarding Witchstock, that entire episode should be renamed inconsistancy. I mean..Alan? A VERY young Grams in 1969 when apparently Prue was born in '70. I don't take anything that happened in that episode as real. That's more of an illusion.
And yes Penny and Grams found out at the same time that the girls were the Charmed Ones which was set after Forever Charmed. However, Coop brought Patty back to right before she was taken so that she wouldn't remember any of that and skrew up the timeline.
Phoebe may have still been concieved in the backseat of a car because when Piper and Leo arrived, it doesn't mean that THAT was when she was concieved. She was simply already pregnant and didn't know it. And like I said about Patty being pregnant, Coop's ring returned her to before any of that happened so since Piper was the one who told Patty in Forever Charmed, returning her to before would mean that she didn't know Piper had come from the future to tell her.
So the only inconsistancy..is Grams.
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Post by Triad on May 23, 2006 14:41:47 GMT -5
I think Grams was surprised int he Series Finale, is because she saw Piper as a real Charmed One. Remember Grams did intend to keep the girl's powers bond, because they needed to be protected from evil. So it is not surprising that Grams would be shocked to see her grand daughter use magic and have already accepted her Charmed duties. As for witchstock....that episode should have not been made. It is that kind of inconsistency that frustrates me to no end! So I just put it out of my mind
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Post by #1 Nightwish Fan AKA Amy Lee on May 26, 2006 7:41:01 GMT -5
Pity the shout out to Prue wasn't good enough in the finale...or so I have heard.
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Post by rebeccamatthews on May 26, 2006 10:25:35 GMT -5
I musta missed the shout out. I heard her name maybe three times and it wasn't much of a shout out.
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Post by prue on May 27, 2006 22:42:15 GMT -5
no kidding. and i feel that it was a slap in the face of the character (and shannen) that they didn't show a picture of Prue during the wall photo montage. that was really bad.
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Post by Triad on May 27, 2006 22:56:14 GMT -5
Yea there wasn't much of a shout out for her. How does Kern think that this lack of Prue would be okay for the Series Finale ? Well there's always fan fics.
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