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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 30, 2011 1:04:11 GMT -5
Just saw this at another site and decided to bring this here. Just please do *not* mix up the Charmed wikia site with the Charmed Comics wiki site that our own StoryGirl83 is working on. I know she's trying to be accurate and I also know that if someone proves that she is wrong, the way this gal did, she'll change it. Here's the posts from the other site: They provide false information based on the opinion and assumption of the admins while claiming with non-admins that opinion will not be stated as fact. Even if you prove one of their "facts" wrong with multiple pieces of evidence and edit the page yourself, they block the page so you can't edit it after changing it back to the false information. I have spent 2-3 days talking with the admins about a fact they stated and provided evidence for why it was not true and they "protected" the page so I could no longer edit it out. I have a feeling they do this with many pages and much information. Don't trust this site besides the obvious stuff you already know. It's not reliable after all. LATER: And I have now been deleted. Why? Because I could provide proof and Mr. PerryPeverell could not. Here's the convo:
==Book of Shadows==
I noticed it says Piper is the first and last sister to write in the Book of Shadows. I know she's the last sister but what did she write first in the book?
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:She was writing in the Book of Shadows on how she doubled the ingredients for the Charm of Confidence and how the spell backfired on her. You can see her writing in the Book in [[Feats of Clay]]. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 11:19, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
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:Oh, weird. I always thought Phoebe was the first sister to write in the book consiering Prue's line in Is There A Woogy In The House, "Okay, it's time. Every witch before us has added to the Book of Shadows. We need to warn who comes next. It's our turn." That seemed significant to it being the first time any of the sisters wrote in the book and they gave the honor to Phoebe.
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:I think Phoebe was the first sister to write in the book. Piper was probably writing on a piece of paper. How do you know what she wrote about. It was never seen on the show.[[User:Kt111|Kt111]] 14:01, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
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::We never saw a piece of paper, we just saw Piper writing in the Book. The writer of ''"[[Is There a Woogy in the House?]]"'' probably made a mistake. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 15:57, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
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::Where in the episode do we see her writing the doubled ingredients in the book? I just rewatched the scene where she cast the spell and she isn't writing in it then. The only other time we see the book after that in the episode is when Prue, Piper, and Phoebe are looking up the Protector of the Urn. There's the scene where Piper is at Quake when Phoebe mentions she notices Piper reversed the spell and she's writing in a book but that's not the Book of Shadows.
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:::Right before Prue walks in on Phoebe and Clay having sex, or almost having sex. You can see a screencap of her writing in the Book of Shadows in the notes section. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 23:32, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
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:::I hate to say it but there's clearly a little piece of paper on top of the page she's looking at so she's not actually writing in the book itself. I have a picture if you don't want to go back to the episode and look. Here it is: i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n573/SeleneGoddess89/PiperBookofSh adows2.png
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::Of course there would be a piece of paper on it. Holly, Shannen and Alyssa aren't actually aloud to write in the [[Book of Shadows]]. But what she wrote, went into the [[Book of Shadows]] and therefor she was the first one to write in the book of shadows. —[[User:LeonardoWyatt|LeonardoWyatt]] - <small>([[User_talk:LeonardoWyatt|talk]])</small> - <small>([[Special:Contributions/LeonardoWyatt|contributions]])</small> 03:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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::I think that the fact that in the script they made a big deal about who would be the first one to write in the book in Is there a Woogy is actually more relevant than the fact that the actresses werent aloud to write in the book. I thought we were supposed to use the show and comics as reference and in the show it was clearly stated that Phoebe was the first sister to write in the book in the episode Is there a Woogy in the House. We cant assume the piece of paper seen on the episode was used because Holly wasnt aloud to write in the book. I think to avoid problems the note should be changed to: Piper was the last sister to write in the book.[[User:Kt111|Kt111]] 03:52, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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::I don't think it has anything to do with the actresses not actually be allowed to write in the book. If that were the case, they would have had Holly pretend to write in the book, not actually have a piece of paper on the book and have her write on that. It's not like we saw what she was writing anyway.
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::The picture above accompanied by the quote from Prue from "Is There A Woogy in the House" clearly proves that Piper is the not the first sister to write in the Book of Shadows. Piper was writing on a piece of paper. That is what is shown. It's just opinion that she's writing "in the book about the consequences of doubling the ingredients" or that "Holly wasn't allowed to write in the book so of course there would be a piece of paper on it". We never saw Piper physically write in the book nor was anything said afterward. Therefore, the only thing that is fact is that Piper is the last one to write in the book.
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:::Piper was writing in the Book of Shadows. She had previously cast a spell on Doug, and doubled the recipe, which made the spell go awry. It's only natural that she would add notes on that. The writer of the Woogy episode just made a simple mistake. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 12:29, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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:::That is also just opinion based on what you assume happened, not anything that was actually shown. I must say, I am disappointed that many things get deleted based on opinion from this site yet this one thing, despite two things evident against it, is being made fact based on opinion. Again, the only thing we know 100% with no doubts to be fact is that she was the last sister to write in the book.
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::::Your opinion is that she didn't write in the book, which you can't prove. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 12:51, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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::::I already did. The picture above as well as the big deal made in the later episode also already mentioned is proof she didn't write anything in the book. Now you're going to "protect" the page from anybody being able to edit it out false information? I'll be sure to spread the word that this site isn't based on facts but the '''opinion''' of the admins. *claps* Way to go.
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:::::First of all, sign your posts. Second, I protected the page because otherwise we'll undo each others edits continuously. Third, the picture proofs nothing. Having a paper under her hand does NOT proof that she was not writing in the book. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 12:57, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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:::::First of all, I don't know how to sign. Sorry. Second, it's false information. That's why it's being deleted. You are providing false information, not fact, despite claiming opinions will not be taken as fact. This is hypocritical. Third, the picture alone doesn't prove it, no, but the picture accomanied by the fact that it was pointed out in a later episode to be the first entry any of the sisters wrote in the book '''does''' prove she wasn't writing in the book. Where is your "proof" she was? There is none. It's your assumption and opinion.
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:Then maybe you should learn or ask someone how to sign. Proof is: We see Piper write in the Book first. So the writer of the Woogy episode made a mistake, or he meant that Phoebe was the first to add an original spell to the Book of Shadows instead of notes. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 13:05, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
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:Nah. Clearly you know who I am and I don't care so much anyway. We see Piper write on a piece paper. Not in the book. If you want to go by logic or assumptions, it makes more sense that Piper was writing on a piece of paper as seen and Phoebe was the first to write in the book because '''that is what the show told us'''. No worries, though. If it's going to be based on false information, I don't want to be a part of it anyway.
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:This discussion is over. Grow up and come back later. --— ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 13:28, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Then, blocked. I've attempted to appeal to the Guardian, who is the leader on the site but alas - you have to NOT be blocked in order to send him a message. So, I've settled for sharing the news. And, now, so have I. Just remember - please do *not* mix up the Charmed wikia site with the Charmed Comics wiki site that our own StoryGirl83 is working on. I know she's trying to be accurate and I also know that if someone proves that she is wrong, the way this gal did, she'll change it. |
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Post by Reality Bites on Aug 30, 2011 4:34:52 GMT -5
That's an unfortunate incident, but I have to say at Charmed Wikia there is a ton of "fanon" information included on there. Before reading this I never took that site seriously or considered it highly accurate to begin with. It contains, in my opinion, too much of what I consider to be fluff.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 30, 2011 8:01:23 GMT -5
I agree totally. The problem is, a lot of people *do* think it's all canon, and it very simply isn't. And when they're not willing to change fanon to canon, especially when the canon is proven (and in Charmed, that's *hard* since canon changes so much during the show!), well, it's really a shame, especially for all the time and effort that was obviously put into putting up the site.
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Post by Reality Bites on Aug 30, 2011 17:43:48 GMT -5
I agree totally. The problem is, a lot of people *do* think it's all canon, and it very simply isn't. And when they're not willing to change fanon to canon, especially when the canon is proven (and in Charmed, that's *hard* since canon changes so much during the show!), well, it's really a shame, especially for all the time and effort that was obviously put into putting up the site. To be honest Es, Charmed Wikia seems like a glorified "fan site" than an online community based encyclopedia looking to supply accurate information on Charmed the TV series and its comic book adaptation. I have to confess that I visited the Charmed Comics wiki once, and from that one viewing I already could tell it was more credible than Charmed Wikia. Some fans are so obsessed with making Charmed make sense and filling up plot holes with their speculations that they are sacrificing most, if not all, of their credibility. Does any one value credibility and accuracy anymore?  |
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 31, 2011 3:36:16 GMT -5
*sigh* I'm afraid not.
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Post by joshingabout on Aug 31, 2011 4:35:33 GMT -5
It's funny that this was brought up. I've been thinking that the Charmed wikia just made stuff up. The argument about the quote about Piper is funny to me, as I recently read the "Piper was the first and last sister to write in the Book of Shadows" and I instantly thought: hmm, that doesn't seem right. I don't remember that! Looks like I'm not the only one who thought that statement was fishy  I remember looking for the names of Mr and Mrs Matthews (as at the time I was trying to name Paige's daughters in my fanfic series, and was hoping to use their names as inspiration) but I found that they were simply called "Mr and Mrs Matthews" and they had no forename in the script at all (which is actually very disappointing). I look again sometime later, and now they're called Mark and Helen Matthews? Seems like wishful thinking. I know there's plenty of Fanon in the site, and I just wish they'd separate the Canon from Fanon. Adding Fanon and speculations is fine, provided that they're in their own section to keep the fact from fiction (I think the Heroes wiki does this at least). And I had no idea that StoryGirl83 was making a Charmed Comics wiki! That seems like such a good idea, as I was never really satisfied with the way the Charmed Wikia presented the comic articles. I'd love to help with the site if help is needed =] |
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Aug 31, 2011 21:05:05 GMT -5
JoshingAbout, if you'd like to help out at the Charmed comic wikia, feel free. I've had to start from scratch after the wikia was deleted at the request of the previous person who ran it, so I'm feeling my way and trying to figure out how I want things organized. While I've tried to be accurate in what I've written a lot of stuff is stubbs or one sentence pages. I do have some idea how I want the pages organized but I welcome people filling in the info. As the wikia is for the comics I am trying to limit the info from the show to what is relevant, introductions to characters, background info that comes into play. Oh, and with the exception of pages for real people, such as the creative team and the actors of those characters who were from the show, no pictures that aren't from the comics. I have actually not yet written a page about the Book of Shadows, so if someone wants to write it before I get to it  go ahead. I won't mind. I would suggest avoiding writing anything about who wrote last in it, though. Unless you specify that you mean on the TV show. And based off this and my memories of the show I'd say that Phoebe wrote first would be accurate. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 1, 2011 19:22:02 GMT -5
Another post from the other site. I'm very happy to say that I know Allen92909 and am proud of her for posting these at the wiki site. I just hope they don't delete her account (yes, she's a she) the way they deleted Selene Goddess' There are now more people bringing up the topic of Piper not being the first one to write in the book:
Just wondered why this specific wiki lists Piper as adding the first and last entry to the bos. The wiki page on the bos itself doesn't list Piper as writing anything in it more than just her final entry. Phoebe was the one who added the first entry in "Is there a Woogy in the House." Prue even tells Phoebe that it's time, every witch before them has added to the bos. Now it was their turn. The sisters seemed to make a big deal out of writing in that first entry. I just thought you might like to correct the page. I know if I had my own website, I would not want inaccurate information. You guys have done a pretty good job with this wiki though. I've been impressed for the most part.
Allen92909 06:30, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
She was writing to the Book in Feats of Clay. In this article is photo from that episode, too. If I should guess, I would say that in Is There a Woogy in the House? Prue meant writing to the Book for the first time in the way adding completely new article. And I can imagine Piper writing to the Book (in Feats of Clay) - to the page with the charm to give someone confidence - something like ,,Do NOT ever use doubled recipe! It turns people into monsters." :-D Fanycharmed 12:49, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
What happened to my last post? Did someone delete it? No where on the feats of clay wiki or the bos wiki does it mention Piper adding anything more than her final entry. In feats of clay you can clearly see a piece of paper in the bos over the page she was on. Prue comes in to talk with her and as Prue walks off, Piper adjusts the page and starts writing again. It seems to be more logical that she was writing down the reversal spell/potion to use on the waiter instead of writing in the book itself. Allen92909 18:20, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
@allen, we were just talking together on the Charmed site. After watching Feats of Clay I too assumed she had been writing the reversal spell or potion to use on the waiter. If she had written anything in the actual book, Prue would have surely said something when she saw Piper writing and thus, would not have made a big deal about it in Is There a Woogy in the House. You can see the paper Piper is writing on and I also noticed her adjusting it. Most fans I know consider Phoebe to be the first to write in the book, myself as well. FurBrendan 18:28, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
You don't know what the purpose of the paper was. And most logical would be that Holly was not allowed to write on the actual paper from the book, and thus got a piece of paper to doodle on. Which the actresses even told us in interviews, is that they got a piece of paper to doodle on when they were film a scene where they had to write in the book. And every page on here is referred to as an "article", not a "wiki". A wiki is what this whole site is, a collection of articles. --— PerryPeverell 20:02, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but if you say I don't know what the purpose of the paper was, than how is it you know and have come to your ill conclusion. If it is unsaid what it is for in the episode, than it should be ignored and the first entry in the book should go to Phoebe. You do not know that she was adding in the book of shadows. It is more logical that she is writing down the resersal spell or potion to use on the waiter. When Phoebe writes her entries in the book and when Leo writes his, they use the script to allow us to see or assume them writing in the book and usually have the person doing so explain what they were writing and or why they were writing it. It was the same way when Piper suggested in season 8 that they add their final entries. There was nothing even remotely said that hinted at Piper writing in the actual book in feats of clay. I know what the sisters have said in interviews and yes, we have seen them writing on many little papers in the book. Their characters were writing little notes and spells to take with when they go after a demon and such, so they would not have to carry the book of shadows with them. They have also been seen writing down potion ingredients so they could take the paper instead of the book to the kitchen. I understand you are strong minded and obviously do't want to give in easily, but we are not the only people who think you are wrong here. We are just the only ones willing to say something here. I lot of fans visit this site and it's important to have accurate information.FurBrendan 20:44, September 1, 2011 (UTC) |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Sept 9, 2011 15:38:45 GMT -5
The admins at that crap site all so full of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 0:22:25 GMT -5
That site is pure rubbish. Why are they lumping stuff from the comics in with that of the show. I'm sorry, but the comics are fanon, not canon. Any information from them should be listed separately, Or, better still, since Marlena has made a Wiki solely devoted to the Charmed Comics, why not just redirect anyone who wants into about the comics there. Would make a heck of a lot more sense.
And when somebody tried to point to them that the comics weren't canon, that person was basically told to shut their pie hole. Nice attitude.
And Betty pointed this out to me:
Are you kidding me!?!?
In WHAT universe does Mystery Girl rate a page nearly as big as Rex's and bigger than Hannah's? Let's do a little comparison here.
Rex and Hannah appeared in six episodes. Mystery Girl appeared in one.
Rex and Hannah had many scenes and dialogue. Mystery Girl *crickets chirping*
Rex and Hannah had a major storyline built around them. Mystery Girl *crickets still chirping*
Rex and Hannah had a huge impact on the sisters. Mystery Girl *boy those crickets are loud*
And the kicker. While Rex and Hannah have names, Mystery Girl has no canon identity!
Nope, Es is right, don't trust the Charmed Wiki.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 12:02:36 GMT -5
What's even worse is that most of that page IS about Mystery Girl, aka. girl from the Lunchbox Scene, and not the Melinda Halliwell that actually EXISTS in canon, the little girl from "Morality Bites." Yes, that girl's from an alternate timeline (where Prue was still alive, Piper and Leo were divorced, and Wyatt and Chris were never born), but she was still part of the actual show and thus, has an actual canon identity.
Mystery Girl, on the other hand, does not. The flash-forward never specifically called her Piper's daughter, let alone gave her a name, so her identity is up in the air. Sure, you could say that Kern intended for her to be Piper's daughter, but his intent is not canon. Only what we see in the show is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 13:43:29 GMT -5
Yeah, just because that time line was wiped out doesn't invalidate her identity.
She could just be a visiting friend that Piper is babysitting, for all we know. There is no logical reason why she got such a big Wiki entry, because she has no identity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 20:36:48 GMT -5
She could just be a visiting friend that Piper is babysitting, for all we know. There is no logical reason why she got such a big Wiki entry, because she has no identity. Exactly. Just because the comics make her Piper's daughter doesn't mean squat, because the comics aren't canon, and last I checked, Charmed Wiki was supposed to be about canon, aka THE SHOW. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 12:00:55 GMT -5
As some of you are already aware, I launched my own Rex and Hannah Chronicles Wikia a few days ago (you'll find a link to it here in the Links section). Anyway, if you go to the Home Page, you'll see the following announcement:
As you can see, I'm pretty upfront here at telling people what to expect. The Wikia is devoted to my canon, the Rex and Hannah Chronicles. It is totally independent of Charmed itself.
Storygirl has done the same thing with her Charmed Comics Wikia. Said Wikia relates to the comics only.
So, those interested in the Rex and Hannah Chronicles can go to my Wikia. Those interested in the comics can go to Storygirl's. Both treat their respective canons as something totally separate from Charmed itself, and rightfully so.
I can't see why the Charmed Wikia can't do the same. Get rid of the comic stuff, leave that to Storygirl.
Of course, the Charmed Wikia seems to suffer from a "clubhouse" mentality. The longtime members get the special treatment and anyone else is just told to shut up and tow the line (like regarding the comics as canon, when they are clearly not).
Sadly, the only way things are gonna change at Charmed Wikia is through a complete staff house cleaning. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 11:56:15 GMT -5
An example of the arrogance at the Charmed Wikia:
One of the staff called Charmdozo posted this:
Lyssa (I remember her from the Charmed Sons board) replied:
Lyssa is right here. CBS/Paramount has never taken a position on the comics.
Charmdozo (henceforth to be referred to as CharmedBozo):
Translation: We have spoken, you shut your pie hole.
Lyssa:
Once again, Lyssa is correct. The Buffy comics are canon because of Joss Whedon's involvement with them.
CharmedBozo:
Because I'm too lazy and arrogant to answer you.
Lyssa:
She pretty much calls CharmedBozo out here. He has power, therefore, he is always right.
CharmedBozo:
No, that only means that they are licensed to write Charmed comics. That has nothing to do with them being canon or not.
Lyssa:
Nice shout out to Storygirl's site. However, Lyssa, do you think this prick is listening to you?
She goes on to say:
So the Wikia says its about the show only? Then that comics stuff should NOT be there.
However, CharmedBozo ain't listening:
Dude, that is so beside the point. Lyssa wasn't talking about who created what show, she was talking about the comics being canon or not.
Lyssa:
I couldn't have said it better myself.
CharmedBozo:
Once again, I have spoken. Shut up, you silly woman!
Lyssa:
Lyssa keeps asking for proof, but CharmedBozo ain't giving it. Reason, it doesn't exist.
CharmBozo:
Talk about arrogance. Lyssa will be blocked if she says the comics aren't canon. No wonder that site has such a bad reputation.
Lyssa:
Yes, Lyssa, they're going t block you because you won't tow the line.
At this point, P3Nathan tries to step in:
Nice try, P3Nathan.
Lyssa:
Exactly, this wikia should be for the show. Lyssa once again points out Storygirl's comics wikia.
She goes on to say:
Paul Ruditis himself said it was up to the readers to accept or reject the comics as canon. I don't see why CharmedBozo is making such a big stink here.
But...
CharmedBozo:
Shut up and tow the line, you stupid woman, or we'll block you. We're right, no matter what you say.
By now, Lyssa has almost had enough:
She's right in that CharmeBozo has been arrogant and rude to her throughout because she dared to question their stupid policy.
CharmedBozo:
You were rude, CharmdBozo, by telling Lyssa to shut up and accept the comics as canon, and threatening to block her if she didn't.
Lyssa:
And that was pretty much it. Poor Lyssa was raked over the coals because she dared to question the Charmed Wikia's policy of considering the comics canon.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Sept 24, 2015 5:15:51 GMT -5
Yeah most Wikipedia sites out there are fan based usually and not considered canon as some people state unless they own the franchise like Joss Whedon does with Angel and Buffy which you would believe whatever was on there because he created them outright.
Myself personally I treat Wikipedia's as alternate universes mostly and whatever pertains to the person's ideas there like some of the next generation Charmed Wiki sites I've seen that feature characters not done so on the show originally which they've written at the top explaining the non canon variety of that so there's no arguments there ascertaining whether the information's real or not because you know it isn't like what you've done with your Rex and Hannah Chronicles Tim.
It's upsetting when people argue over whether things are real or not as forums and Wiki's are meant to be places where fan's come together and talk about what they like there not bitch amongst one another constantly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 7:38:28 GMT -5
Exactly, I'm pretty upfront with what you expect at my Wikia. The Rex and Hannah Chronicles do not acknowledge the existence of the comics, therefore, my Wikia doesn't either. If someone wants to know about the comics and such, I refer them to Storygirl's Wikia, which deals exclusively with the comics.
Unfortunately, the Charmed Wikia has a clubhouse mentality in which only a selected few, like CharmedBozo, get preferential treatment.
There was no excuse for the way Lyssa was treated. She quite correctly pointed out that the comics were not canon, and, CharmedBozo basically told her to shut up, or he would block her. The message was quite clear, tow the line and accept what we say, no matter if it's correct or not, or we'll block you from posting. That's no way to run a Wikia.
Remember when Betty pointed out an error I made in my Wikia. Did I throw a hissy fit? No, I went in and fixed said error. Unlike CharmedBozo, I'm willing to listen to others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 15:32:36 GMT -5
Exactly, I'm pretty upfront with what you expect at my Wikia. The Rex and Hannah Chronicles do not acknowledge the existence of the comics, therefore, my Wikia doesn't either. If someone wants to know about the comics and such, I refer them to Storygirl's Wikia, which deals exclusively with the comics. That's one of Charmed Wikia's biggest problems. Since they treat the comics as an extension of canon Charmed an not a separate entity, their site is almost completely redundant with Storygirl's. Instead of having a good Wikia each for the show and the comics, we basically have two comic Wikias, one that's good and well-researched (Storygirl's site) and one that's useless and full of inaccuracies (Charmed Wikia). The fandom lacks a good reference guide for the show. Unfortunately, the Charmed Wikia has a clubhouse mentality in which only a selected few, like CharmedBozo, get preferential treatment. There was no excuse for the way Lyssa was treated. She quite correctly pointed out that the comics were not canon, and, CharmedBozo basically told her to shut up, or he would block her. The message was quite clear, tow the line and accept what we say, no matter if it's correct or not, or we'll block you from posting. That's no way to run a Wikia. Remember when Betty pointed out an error I made in my Wikia. Did I throw a hissy fit? No, I went in and fixed said error. Unlike CharmedBozo, I'm willing to listen to others. Yeah, even worse than the site itself are the people who run it. Point out any inaccuracies, and risk getting banned. There's absolutely ZERO quality control over there, whatsoever.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 0:11:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Storygirl's site is the place to go if you want to know about the comics. It's well researched, and everything you need is there. And like me with the Rex and Hannah Chronicles, Storygirl is upfront with what to expect at her Wikia. It's about the comics only, if a Charmed character hasn't appeared in the comics, they don't get a page, case closed.
The Charmed Wikia doesn't need to cover the comics, Storygirl is doing a good job at that.
And nothing is going to change at Charmed Wikia. Unless there is a complete housecleaning and new staff are brought in, new staff who don't adopt the "clubhouse" mentality that CharmedBozo and the current staff have.
It's a wonder that place has any credibility left at all. I mean if you keep telling people, who don't agree with you, to shut up, or you'll block them, that's just going to drive people away.
It's interesting to note that Lyssa's current status on the Charmed Wikia is "Inactive". Can't say I blame her. If I had been treated the way she was, I wouldn't go near that place again for all the gold in Fort Knox.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 9:10:38 GMT -5
More idiocy from this site: Since WHEN did Prue's death weaken Piper and Phoebe's powers? Oh, and speaking of Prue, this is from her page: WTF is this?!!? Of course, it's from the comics (surprise), but they present it in a way that makes zero note of that fact and act like it's something that happened on the TV show. Unless you're super-familiar with the comics, this page will confuse the hell out of you. Great going, Charmed Wiki! Of course, hilariously, the discussion on Prue's page includes this bit: As if the pages aren't already unrecognizable enough with that comic info tossed in. Here's a couple of other pages that need SERIOUS work. Have at it, Tim! charmed.wikia.com/wiki/Rex_Bucklandcharmed.wikia.com/wiki/Hannah_Webster |
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go ahead. I won't mind. I would suggest avoiding writing anything about who wrote last in it, though. Unless you specify that you mean on the TV show. And based off this and my memories of the show I'd say that Phoebe wrote first would be accurate.
92.8.150.147 02:41, July 10, 2013 (UTC)