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Post by iamthesun on Feb 14, 2014 5:38:14 GMT -5
What happened to the Source though?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 12:08:12 GMT -5
What happened to the Source though? He got vanquished by the sisters. Cole absorbed his powers from the Hollow. Then the Seer lied and said they went into the void but they really went into Cole. Which is something I never understood. The actual Source the goth/half faced guy was killed, yet they said it was the SOURCE in Cole. So it felt to me they were implying the Source's spirit or essence? But that doesn't make sense because when the Source returns hes the goth/half faced guy and not Cole. In my opinion it wasn't the actual Source in Cole just his powers. Then when Phoebe got pregnant they say her baby was the SOURCE. Maybe Phoebe's baby was just the product of the Source's Powers manifestation through a vessel? In season 8 I don't even think the Source had his full powers, if he had I don't think his life would've been tied to that no name demon who brought him back. What do you think? |
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Post by iamthesun on Feb 14, 2014 13:54:56 GMT -5
Hmm yeah the Source came back in S8 so he couldn't have been in Cole because he was sent to purgatory. When Cole went through the vanquish, those powers would have gone and I don't remember Cole having them when he reappeared in S7. It's a solid theory you have, but he kept coming back, didn't he? So he must be powerful to some extent. But nowhere near as much as he used to be, because he was vanquished. Again. lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 14:41:43 GMT -5
Did Cole even have any powers when he returned in Season 7? Or was he just a ghost stuck in limbo?
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Post by Chrisaholic on Feb 14, 2014 17:21:58 GMT -5
I think there were no powers of his. Just stuck in the limbo for his deeds. *shrugs* Can only guess here.  |
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Feb 14, 2014 18:37:50 GMT -5
Well they bungled up the Source mythology, what a surprise. But from what I remember the Source of All Evil is just supposed to be a position. I remember they said the way half-face got his scar or whatever was during his battle to the top to become the Source.
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 15, 2014 11:24:53 GMT -5
The Wizard in We're Off To See The Wizard tells the sisters that "the Source has been reborn". This confusingly implies that it could be more than just the Source's powers inside Cole.
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Post by iamthesun on Feb 15, 2014 13:26:19 GMT -5
Hmm there must have been something more inside Cole, there had to be..that child inside Phoebe was pure evil, that didn't just happen by chance.
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Feb 15, 2014 14:37:38 GMT -5
I always thought that becoming the Source also gave you more powers and the essence corrupted you. Despite all the beings wanting to be the Source they never realize that it comes with a price. The price that the Source takes over part of you. I always felt that is why Zankou never tried to become the new Source.
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 15, 2014 14:54:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but instead Zankou went after the power at the centre of the Nexus in the Halliwell basement. That particular power also takes over part of whoever takes it in.
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Feb 15, 2014 18:21:48 GMT -5
Yep, which way I think it would have made more sense for him to be crowned as the Source rather than take in the Nexus which is just a physical place. I mean honestly it would have killed two birds with one stone explained how the Source worked and saved them from the embarrassment of screwing over continuity yet again.
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Feb 15, 2014 18:22:00 GMT -5
Yep, which way I think it would have made more sense for him to be crowned as the Source rather than take in the Nexus which is just a physical place. I mean honestly it would have killed two birds with one stone explained how the Source worked and saved them from the embarrassment of screwing over continuity yet again.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Feb 15, 2014 20:27:59 GMT -5
I think we can imply that maybe Zankou did try to become the Source—all the way back in the past. Remember, the half-faced Source is the one who imprisoned Zankou (or at least the one who ordered it to be done), and even the demons who freed Zankou debated about it amongst themselves feeling like they knew the Source did it for a viable reason. Methinks he probably made a play for the throne which ended up in an Underworld Smackdown main-event, and the Source was able to overpower Zankou enough to barely incapacitate him somehow but not to kill him.
Still leaves the question: why not go for it right now? Here's my attempt to answer. He's been aware and conscious of everything going on from his prison ball. No stretch he found out about the Source's vanquish, including the part where no successor appeared afterward for years. Depending on whether he knew about the essence thing or not, I'm guessing he either figured that there wasn't much of an organizational structure to be able to crown a new Source, and/or that the essence was stuck in the wasteland and thus, assuming he didn't know of a way of getting to the Wasteland or actually reviving the Source, the Nexus was an easier target.
As far as the continuity surrounding the Nexus and the Shadow (aka the "Woogyman" to Phoebe), one can weld it together to make some sort of sense, but it's kinda hard to explain, so I'm dodging that topic for now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 22:27:24 GMT -5
The Wizard in We're Off To See The Wizard tells the sisters that "the Source has been reborn". This confusingly implies that it could be more than just the Source's powers inside Cole. Well from my perspective, He just implied that the Source was had been reborn, meaning his powers had moved onto someone else. It doesn't make sense if the actual Source had been in Cole. Phoebe's baby was also called the Source when it took her over. So how could The Source be in both Cole and her baby at the same time? |
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 16, 2014 4:17:42 GMT -5
The Wizard in We're Off To See The Wizard tells the sisters that "the Source has been reborn". This confusingly implies that it could be more than just the Source's powers inside Cole. Well from my perspective, He just implied that the Source was had been reborn, meaning his powers had moved onto someone else. It doesn't make sense if the actual Source had been in Cole. Phoebe's baby was also called the Source when it took her over. So how could The Source be in both Cole and her baby at the same time? I don't think the baby would count as the Source though. It was demonic and had inherited the powers, so was powerful enough to be named the Source, but it was more like the "Source's son" than the actual Source. That's my current interpretation of it, anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 16:43:11 GMT -5
Well from my perspective, He just implied that the Source was had been reborn, meaning his powers had moved onto someone else. It doesn't make sense if the actual Source had been in Cole. Phoebe's baby was also called the Source when it took her over. So how could The Source be in both Cole and her baby at the same time? I don't think the baby would count as the Source though. It was demonic and had inherited the powers, so was powerful enough to be named the Source, but it was more like the "Source's son" than the actual Source. That's my current interpretation of it, anyway. I agree. Its just confusing when they use terms that don't really apply to the situation. Its like in season 8 when they call everything the Ultimate Power. It gets confusing |
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 16, 2014 16:55:09 GMT -5
I don't think the baby would count as the Source though. It was demonic and had inherited the powers, so was powerful enough to be named the Source, but it was more like the "Source's son" than the actual Source. That's my current interpretation of it, anyway. I agree. Its just confusing when they use terms that don't really apply to the situation. Its like in season 8 when they call everything the Ultimate Power. It gets confusing They call everything the Ultimate Power? I thought Billie was supposed to be the Ultimate Power and Christy was some sort of "key" (which just by naming a sister of whoever as a "key" is a total Buffy rip-off, even if the "key" is for something completely different). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 17:03:11 GMT -5
I agree. Its just confusing when they use terms that don't really apply to the situation. Its like in season 8 when they call everything the Ultimate Power. It gets confusing They call everything the Ultimate Power? I thought Billie was supposed to be the Ultimate Power and Christy was some sort of "key" (which just by naming a sister of whoever as a "key" is a total Buffy rip-off, even if the "key" is for something completely different). -Season 4 The Hollow is called the Ultimate Power -Season 5-6 Wyatt is called the Ultimate Power (Can't remember exact season tbh) -Season 8 The Triad is called the Ultimate Power -Season 8 Christy is called the KEY to the Ultimate Power -Season 8 Billy is the Ultimate Power -Season 8 Both Billy and Christy are called the Ultimate Power when they combine their powers together I'm surprised the Nexus was never called the Ultimate Power at some point lol. I still believe the Ultimate Power is the Hollow. Billy, Christy and the Triad wouldn't need aid from the Hollow if that were the case. |
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 17, 2014 3:35:03 GMT -5
Oh I see. I thought you were just on about season eight before. Plus maybe the writers just weren't very articulate in their naming of things and never found out about the "synonyms" button on Word.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Feb 18, 2014 9:31:33 GMT -5
It seems to be this way. A way too many "Ultimate Powers" here. |
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