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Post by forbuss on Feb 21, 2014 21:43:24 GMT -5
I really love Paige, but I agree her acting is doesn't even touch Shannen's!
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 22, 2014 8:25:56 GMT -5
I love Paige but don't love Rose's acting, the way I love Holly's acting but don't love Piper.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 22, 2014 14:03:32 GMT -5
I blame the writers, directors, and the environment she walked into probably even more so than Rose for the performance of Paige..
Any word on whether Rose fully knew the situation upon filming 4x01?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 14:10:34 GMT -5
What type of environment exactly? Everyone was friendly to Rose when she joined the cast. What happened to Shannon wasn't her fault.
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Post by primroseempath371 on Feb 22, 2014 14:35:03 GMT -5
I blame the writers, directors, and the environment she walked into probably even more so than Rose for the performance of Paige.. Any word on whether Rose fully knew the situation upon filming 4x01? Have to disagree here. Shannon was having all types of drama while filming season 3 of the show yet she was still able to pull some of the best performances for her character. The finger can't be pointed at other people when the actual performance lyes in the actor's ability. This is where Rose failed. Maybe it was because there wasn't really a clear consensus of what they wanted out of the character Paige, who knows? But she still was painful to watch on screen and there just isn't any excuse for that. To answer your second question, I believe Rose did know what transpired upon her arrival but from what i've heard in interviews everyone welcomed her.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 22, 2014 17:58:28 GMT -5
I blame the writers, directors, and the environment she walked into probably even more so than Rose for the performance of Paige.. Any word on whether Rose fully knew the situation upon filming 4x01? Have to disagree here. Shannon was having all types of drama while filming season 3 of the show yet she was still able to pull some of the best performances for her character. The finger can't be pointed at other people when the actual performance lyes in the actor's ability. This is where Rose failed. Maybe it was because there wasn't really a clear consensus of what they wanted out of the character Paige, who knows? But she still was painful to watch on screen and there just isn't any excuse for that. To answer your second question, I believe Rose did know what transpired upon her arrival but from what i've heard in interviews everyone welcomed her. I am not trying to provide an excuse, but I am just saying that there was definitely more at play. Having worked on numerous productions in theatre and film as an actor, I know what it's like walking into an unhealthy work environment. I completely agree - you should be able to put any personal issues or conflicts that may be happening on screen to the side for the sake of art, but the sad truth is not everyone was able to do that. Alyssa was also very poor in 4x01, or really anytime after that in which Prue was mentioned. I don't think Rose is an awful actress, but I think her role in Charmed was very unfamiliar territory for her. Before Charmed, the only roles I saw Rose in were very strong aggressive characters - I think Paige was a bit out of her wheel house. I definitely think that Rose struggled as an actress to find Paige's footing, just like how I think the creative team struggled to find who Paige was as a character. This is what I am saying contributed to poor results. When you walk into a show, you have to deliver exactly what the director wants unless you are a big name like Meryl Streep or something.
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Post by esperanzaa on Feb 22, 2014 18:13:38 GMT -5
I have to agree, Rose's acting wasn't good in S4, but I think she was good in a Paige from the Past.
I haven't seen all episodes of this season in order, so I cannout make a detailed summary about this season
Two thing I'd also like to add about S4: I really like the first half of S4, were Cole was good and worked together with the sisters. Holly is acting was soo incredible in Chamed Again Pt 1 & Hell Hath no Fury
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Post by forbuss on Feb 22, 2014 18:48:01 GMT -5
What type of environment exactly? Everyone was friendly to Rose when she joined the cast. What happened to Shannon wasn't her fault. Hey! I answered this in my last post.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 23:03:24 GMT -5
What type of environment exactly? Everyone was friendly to Rose when she joined the cast. What happened to Shannon wasn't her fault. Hey! I answered this in my last post. I asked you that question before Primrose replied to you!
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Post by forbuss on Feb 23, 2014 2:39:00 GMT -5
Hey! I answered this in my last post. I asked you that question before Primrose replied to you! Yes! Haha oops. To reiterate: The mess that was Roses' performance of Paige was not all Rose's fault in my eyes. It was a combination of her acting and the creative team.
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Post by primroseempath371 on Feb 23, 2014 17:01:19 GMT -5
Have to disagree here. Shannon was having all types of drama while filming season 3 of the show yet she was still able to pull some of the best performances for her character. The finger can't be pointed at other people when the actual performance lyes in the actor's ability. This is where Rose failed. Maybe it was because there wasn't really a clear consensus of what they wanted out of the character Paige, who knows? But she still was painful to watch on screen and there just isn't any excuse for that. To answer your second question, I believe Rose did know what transpired upon her arrival but from what i've heard in interviews everyone welcomed her. you should be able to put any personal issues or conflicts that may be happening on screen to the side for the sake of art, but the sad truth is not everyone was able to do that. And you know this because you were there on the Charmed set back in 2000-2001? I'd rather take the word of people who were actually there like Brian and Holly than fan speculations. The same fans who created that fictitious Brad vs. Shannon crap. There was no animosity or unprofessional environment. Everyone was good to Rose including Holly. Where are you getting this idea from? Alyssa was also very poor in 4x01, or really anytime after that in which Prue was mentioned Alyssa did just fine in Charmed Again and through all of season 4. A lot better than Rose. The only time I felt Alyssa lacked in her performance was the crying scene in Prue's room. Compare that to near every scene Rose was in where I didn't even want to watch. Before Charmed, the only roles I saw Rose in were very strong aggressive characters - I think Paige was a bit out of her wheel house. Now I've seen quite a few Rose films. I saw her in Scream, Jawbreakers, Planet Terror, and a recent film that was straight to dvd thats available on Netflix. She isn't a strong enough actress to carry a movie. If Paige was different territory for her, than that alone tells you that Rose is not a very skilled actress. Other actors go out on a limb to do 110% in their performances. Even in Planet Terror, she was basically playing herself. You're an actor correct, so then you should know this. I'll also use Channing Tatum as an example. The guy for some reason is very popular because of his looks, however, having watched all his films, hes a horrible actor. He basically plays himself in each film with a new name and has no range of depth and diversity in his roles. This is where Rose fits. Beautiful woman, poor actress. I think the creative team struggled to find who Paige was as a character. This is what I am saying contributed to poor results. When you walk into a show, you have to deliver exactly what the director wants unless you are a big name like Meryl Streep or something. I agree with your first statement, however, Rose gets more blame because she didn't convey her acting ability well on screen. Shes easily one of the worst actors to be on Charmed. You can sit and do what the directors tell you to do, but the director doesn't act out your scenes for you, thats the actors job and she failed.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 23, 2014 18:20:30 GMT -5
you should be able to put any personal issues or conflicts that may be happening on screen to the side for the sake of art, but the sad truth is not everyone was able to do that. And you know this because you were there on the Charmed set back in 2000-2001? I'd rather take the word of people who were actually there like Brian and Holly than fan speculations. The same fans who created that fictitious Brad vs. Shannon crap. There was no animosity or unprofessional environment. Everyone was good to Rose including Holly. Where are you getting this idea from? Alyssa was also very poor in 4x01, or really anytime after that in which Prue was mentioned Alyssa did just fine in Charmed Again and through all of season 4. A lot better than Rose. The only time I felt Alyssa lacked in her performance was the crying scene in Prue's room. Compare that to near every scene Rose was in where I didn't even want to watch. Before Charmed, the only roles I saw Rose in were very strong aggressive characters - I think Paige was a bit out of her wheel house. Now I've seen quite a few Rose films. I saw her in Scream, Jawbreakers, Planet Terror, and a recent film that was straight to dvd thats available on Netflix. She isn't a strong enough actress to carry a movie. If Paige was different territory for her, than that alone tells you that Rose is not a very skilled actress. Other actors go out on a limb to do 110% in their performances. Even in Planet Terror, she was basically playing herself. You're an actor correct, so then you should know this. I'll also use Channing Tatum as an example. The guy for some reason is very popular because of his looks, however, having watched all his films, hes a horrible actor. He basically plays himself in each film with a new name and has no range of depth and diversity in his roles. This is where Rose fits. Beautiful woman, poor actress. I think the creative team struggled to find who Paige was as a character. This is what I am saying contributed to poor results. When you walk into a show, you have to deliver exactly what the director wants unless you are a big name like Meryl Streep or something. I agree with your first statement, however, Rose gets more blame because she didn't convey her acting ability well on screen. Shes easily one of the worst actors to be on Charmed. You can sit and do what the directors tell you to do, but the director doesn't act out your scenes for you, thats the actors job and she failed. First of all, I hate when people misquote me and come at my angle in an aggressive manner like you just did. You picked apart my original post and responded to certain lines I wrote without the rest of the sentence included in some instances. Of course none of us were on set, and everyone including you are speculating and sharing our views. Who are you to make me feel like your view is correct and mine is wrong? Everyone that knows me on this board knows that I adore Alyssa's portrayal as Phoebe, particularly in season 4. It is my favourite season because of her storyline with Cole, and she has some of the most incredibly acting moments in all of Charmed in my eyes. And yes, I am an actor, so please don't insult what I do by telling me what I should or should not know about it. If you want to make Rose out to be "beautiful woman, poor actress" than you can do that until the cows come home. I was offering a contrary opinion to yours. Overall I thought your response was very rude and offensive.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 23, 2014 18:35:05 GMT -5
Furthermore, I didn't once ever say that Rose was not welcomed or that there was bad blood on set. I explained already that when I said "environment she walked into" I meant the I think Paige was character that was struggled with by the creative team and Rose.
I take everything that is said in interviews with a grain of salt, because things that happen behind closed doors are very different from what people are ALLOWED to say on camera through their contracts. This is also probably why we didn't hear anything from Shannen until she was released from the show. I've always claimed that there is a lot we don't know about the whole Shannen being fired situation, and I don't claim to KNOW anything about what happens. Again, it's my gut feelings that I am sharing.
I don't expect anyone to know about my opinions from past posts I have had, but please ask before you accuse.
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Post by primroseempath371 on Feb 23, 2014 19:25:38 GMT -5
First of all, I hate when people misquote me and come at my angle in an aggressive manner like you just did. You picked apart my original post and responded to certain lines I wrote without the rest of the sentence included in some instances. Its easier for me to response by using this method. Its not picking apart quotes or misquoting you. I can't misquote you since these are your answers anyway. I don't know why you find this aggressive or offensive? Of course none of us were on set, and everyone including you are speculating and sharing our views. Who are you to make me feel like your view is correct and mine is wrong? I'm not speculating though. I've taken the word of both Holly and Brian, both of whom I've met at Comic Con and both of which shut down fan speculations. You know they were actually on set. You keep impying "The type of environment she walked into" and I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. There was no onset drama nor was there any kind of malice with behind the set execs. Holly admitted she was still bitter with the way things were handled with Shannon but she didn't let that pour out onto work. Everyone was welcoming of Rose which is why I'm confused with your responses. I'll take Holly's word over any fan any day. And yes, I am an actor, so please don't insult what I do by telling me what I should or should not know about it. As an actor you should be able to identify the certain types of type casts that I just showed you on my examples of both Rose and Channing Tatum. You have dedicated actors such as you suggested Meryl Streep, than you have those actors who are only famous for looks; Megan Fox, Channing Tatum, and yes Rose McGowan. It isn't to insult you or your intelligence of the craft. Overall I thought your response was very rude and offensive. I don't know why. All I'm doing is making conversation but ok. Furthermore, I didn't once ever say that Rose was not welcomed or that there was bad blood on set. I explained already that when I said "environment she walked into" I meant the I think Paige was character that was struggled with by the creative team and Rose. Which is why I was confused. Creative teams lacking direction for a character has nothing to do with work environment that you keep saying. It was sounding like the type of work environment Rose was in was unhealthy and uncomfortable. You even used your own experience as an example which I found to not make sense with what you're saying. I take everything that is said in interviews with a grain of salt, because things that happen behind closed doors are very different from what people are ALLOWED to say on camera through their contracts. This is also probably why we didn't hear anything from Shannen until she was released from the show. I've always claimed that there is a lot we don't know about the whole Shannen being fired situation, and I don't claim to KNOW anything about what happens. Again, it's my gut feelings that I am sharing. I take what Holly says over fans anyday. She isn't a liar nor does she care about consequences. Shes even made remarks where she says she'll probably be receiving a phone call but Oh Well. There still is a lot we don't know about what happened to Shannon but Shannon has said enough about it in interviews to put 2 and 2 together. I could careless what happened to her. Its been over 10 years and its time for everyone to move on already. Your gut feelings don't compare to Holly when she was actually there and you weren't. Not to be mean, but its the truth. Just like my opinion doesn't matter because I wasn't there, she was. I don't expect anyone to know about my opinions from past posts I have had, but please ask before you accuse. I never accused you of anything. Just trying to figure out what you were talking about.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 23, 2014 20:24:36 GMT -5
First of all, I hate when people misquote me and come at my angle in an aggressive manner like you just did. You picked apart my original post and responded to certain lines I wrote without the rest of the sentence included in some instances. Its easier for me to response by using this method. Its not picking apart quotes or misquoting you. I can't misquote you since these are your answers anyway. I don't know why you find this aggressive or offensive? You are misquoting me because you took my post out of the context of my entire explanation, and didn't include my explanation of what I meant in other posts. Of course none of us were on set, and everyone including you are speculating and sharing our views. Who are you to make me feel like your view is correct and mine is wrong? I'm not speculating though. I've taken the word of both Holly and Brian, both of whom I've met at Comic Con and both of which shut down fan speculations. You know they were actually on set. You keep impying "The type of environment she walked into" and I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. There was no onset drama nor was there any kind of malice with behind the set execs. Holly admitted she was still bitter with the way things were handled with Shannon but she didn't let that pour out onto work. Everyone was welcoming of Rose which is why I'm confused with your responses. I'll take Holly's word over any fan any day. Taking Holly's and Brian's word doesn't have anything to do with what I am talking about. Holly and Brian (according to you, correct me if I am wrong) shut down fan speculations about circumstances around what happened with Shannen's departure from the show, and any bad blood their might have been from that point on. By saying "you know they were actually on set" is insulting because of course I know they were on set, you don't have to be condescending. I have already explained twice what I meant by the type of environment, but I will again - it was the lack of direction with Paige. I have also said before that I know everyone welcomed Paige, because out of everyone who was there that day, Rose had the least to do with what happened. And yes, I am an actor, so please don't insult what I do by telling me what I should or should not know about it. As an actor you should be able to identify the certain types of type casts that I just showed you on my examples of both Rose and Channing Tatum. You have dedicated actors such as you suggested Meryl Streep, than you have those actors who are only famous for looks; Megan Fox, Channing Tatum, and yes Rose McGowan. It isn't to insult you or your intelligence of the craft. You are telling me once again what I should and should not be able to determine. I agree, Channing Tatum and Megan Fox are famous primarily for their attractiveness, but I really haven't seen to many things either of them have been in. I don't think Rose fits into that category, I think that she is talented and I have enjoyed her in Charmed as well as in Jawbreaker and Scream. Most Scream fans I talk to regard Tatum as one of the best Scream characters of all time, and I personally love most of Rose's acting that I have seen. Just because you think she is one way doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with you, no matter how much you tell people that they should be able to see that she is famous because of her attractiveness. I do not agree. Overall I thought your response was very rude and offensive. I don't know why. All I'm doing is making conversation but ok. I am explaining how now. Furthermore, I didn't once ever say that Rose was not welcomed or that there was bad blood on set. I explained already that when I said "environment she walked into" I meant the I think Paige was character that was struggled with by the creative team and Rose. Which is why I was confused. Creative teams lacking direction for a character has nothing to do with work environment that you keep saying. It was sounding like the type of work environment Rose was in was unhealthy and uncomfortable. You even used your own experience as an example which I found to not make sense with what you're saying. Creative teams lacking direction for a show directly impacts the work environment, because it means they don't know what they want from her as character, which means they didn't have a clear idea how they wanted Rose to portray Paige. I've experienced this before, and it's frustrating when you have that kind of confusion. Again, this is what I think happened, just like how you accredit the bad acting as being purely Roses' fault. I am basing this off the excellent performances I have seen Rose in. I take everything that is said in interviews with a grain of salt, because things that happen behind closed doors are very different from what people are ALLOWED to say on camera through their contracts. This is also probably why we didn't hear anything from Shannen until she was released from the show. I've always claimed that there is a lot we don't know about the whole Shannen being fired situation, and I don't claim to KNOW anything about what happens. Again, it's my gut feelings that I am sharing. I take what Holly says over fans anyday. She isn't a liar nor does she care about consequences. Shes even made remarks where she says she'll probably be receiving a phone call but Oh Well. There still is a lot we don't know about what happened to Shannon but Shannon has said enough about it in interviews to put 2 and 2 together. I could careless what happened to her. Its been over 10 years and its time for everyone to move on already. Your gut feelings don't compare to Holly when she was actually there and you weren't. Not to be mean, but its the truth. Just like my opinion doesn't matter because I wasn't there, she was. If you can provide me with an explicit interview of someone detailing all events surrounding Shannen's departure, then I will believe you. There are two sides to every story. As far as I know, Holly hasn't gone into great detail of what happened, and like I said, the vast majority of things we heard were after the show ended/after Shannen left. She clearly did care about consequences at some point, because if she really didn't she would have let it all lay right there when it happened. But I feel like she did care, because we didn't hear anything publicly from Holly for awhile. To say that she didn't care about consequences when she was on the show is a big statement, because she clearly didn't want to lose her fans or compromise her job. Good things came out of Shannen leaving for Holly - she became the star of the show, and I believe she says in an interview somewhere that it was a great opportunity for her as an actress. Not sure on that one though. I also hate when people say we need to move on from this. Well should we just delete the board and move on from Charmed? If there are certain topics surrounding Charmed that you don't want to discuss, then don't discuss them. Don't bash other people who want to talk about it. Again, please post in your next message Holly detailing the events of exactly what happened (or even her contradicting something I've said in my explanations), I'll be thrilled to give you a public apology on the board. I don't expect anyone to know about my opinions from past posts I have had, but please ask before you accuse. I never accused you of anything. Just trying to figure out what you were talking about. With that statement I just meant that in my previous post I was referring to a lot of my older posts. I do believe you've indirectly accused me of not knowing what I am talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 21:25:39 GMT -5
Its odd reading these comments, I like Paige in season 4 more than any other season. Well season 8 Paige was fab. I liked her weird odd mannerisms in the 4th season, it felt like Paige. Rose's acting may have lacked in certain areas but she wasn't the worst. If anything, Alyssa's acting took a huge decline after the fourth season. Rose might have consistently sucked as an actress on Charmed but what was Alyssa's excuse? Her portrayal of Phoebe especially in season 5-6 was awful.
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Post by forbuss on Feb 23, 2014 22:13:54 GMT -5
Its odd reading these comments, I like Paige in season 4 more than any other season. Well season 8 Paige was fab. I liked her weird odd mannerisms in the 4th season, it felt like Paige. Rose's acting may have lacked in certain areas but she wasn't the worst. If anything, Alyssa's acting took a huge decline after the fourth season. Rose might have consistently sucked as an actress on Charmed but what was Alyssa's excuse? Her portrayal of Phoebe especially in season 5-6 was awful. I don't disagree with you. There are moments in S4 of Paige being great, and some are a bit off. Alyssa definitely was very different in season 5 and 6, and I would lump 8 and certain parts of 7 in it too. Holly was also off in those seasons I think.
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Post by primroseempath371 on Feb 23, 2014 23:17:26 GMT -5
You are misquoting me because you took my post out of the context of my entire explanation, and didn't include my explanation of what I meant in other posts. I read your post and had questions. Thats it. There was no taking out of context. Your explanation didn't make sense to me and I was confused until you finally explained yourself better. Now I get it. Taking Holly's and Brian's word doesn't have anything to do with what I am talking about. Holly and Brian (according to you, correct me if I am wrong) shut down fan speculations about circumstances around what happened with Shannen's departure from the show, and any bad blood their might have been from that point on. By saying "you know they were actually on set" is insulting because of course I know they were on set, you don't have to be condescending. I have already explained twice what I meant by the type of environment, but I will again - it was the lack of direction with Paige. I have also said before that I know everyone welcomed Paige, because out of everyone who was there that day, Rose had the least to do with what happened. Lack of direction for a character has nothing to do with someones work environment. learn the differences. You kept repeating "type of environment she walked into" which heavily implied there were problems on set. There certainly isn't anything condescending with what I'm saying to you. I was confused by your statement that is all. You're being way to over dramatic about this. You are telling me once again what I should and should not be able to determine. Well, I guess so. You are an actor, you should be able to talk about these things without getting so upset. It isn't as if I'm insulting your acting ability because I don't know you from Adam. What I'm saying is that in the field of theatre and acting, theres type casts. You should know these things if you're extensive in this field. I think that she is talented and I have enjoyed her in Charmed as well as in Jawbreaker and Scream. Most Scream fans I talk to regard Tatum as one of the best Scream characters of all time, and I personally love most of Rose's acting that I have seen. Just because you think she is one way doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with you, no matter how much you tell people that they should be able to see that she is famous because of her attractiveness. I do not agree. . this is great you feel that way about her. I'm not attacking you for it and I never said once people have to share my opinion. You're the one whos attacking me saying I'm rude and aggressive simply because I'm stating my opinion. You seem to get very defensive and drama filled when someone doesn't agree with you. Relax. Creative teams lacking direction for a show directly impacts the work environment, because it means they don't know what they want from her as character, which means they didn't have a clear idea how they wanted Rose to portray Paige. I've experienced this before, and it's frustrating when you have that kind of confusion. Again, this is what I think happened, just like how you accredit the bad acting as being purely Roses' fault. I am basing this off the excellent performances I have seen Rose in. No it doesn't. Lack of direction for a specific character can affect someones personal work ethic, but not the entire working environment. Lack Of Direction for a show that you just claimed is an entirely different issue. She had other actors she could've worked off of but didn't. Actors that were all well established on the show. All her performances were bad. Its one of the pleasures of working on a set as an actor, you have amazing talent surrounding you, there was absolutely no reason why Rose had to be the worse out of the bunch. I am basing this off of all the projects I've seen Rose included in also. If you can provide me with an explicit interview of someone detailing all events surrounding Shannen's departure, then I will believe you. There is no such interview, however, I advise you to take time when you can and go looking for interviews with Shannon Doherty where she gives a lot of hints as to what happened and with who. Nothing she says ever suggests Brad Kern which is the infamous accusation fans made up for some reason. As far as I know, Holly hasn't gone into great detail of what happened, and like I said, the vast majority of things we heard were after the show ended/after Shannen left. She clearly did care about consequences at some point, because if she really didn't she would have let it all lay right there when it happened. But I feel like she did care, because we didn't hear anything publicly from Holly for awhile. It isn't Holly's or anyone else's responsibility to go into detail about what happened with Shannon. Fans should be thankful that both Holly and Brian even address these issues at Comic Cons and give off very simple answers that shun down speculation. The truth is, if anyone should lay it all out on the table its Shannon. But thats never going to happen out of respect for her work. I also hate when people say we need to move on from this. Well should we just delete the board and move on from Charmed? If there are certain topics surrounding Charmed that you don't want to discuss, then don't discuss them. Don't bash other people who want to talk about it. Again, please post in your next message Holly detailing the events of exactly what happened (or even her contradicting something I've said in my explanations), I'll be thrilled to give you a public apology on the board. When did I ever bash or directly insult anyone who talked about those issues? I said people should move on myself included. How is that bashing? Drama at its finest ladies and gentlemen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 2:33:05 GMT -5
Please Read...
I don't think I'm going to be a member of this site much longer. This place just isn't what I expected it to be. My 3rd day here as a member, I was insulted by veteran member ESMERALDA. We had great discussions on the forum but couldn't deal with my constant opposing views. She insults me on a thread, then without allowing me to have the dignity to defend myself, ignores me completely and sends me a private message about how she discovered the BLOCK feature and I should use it. I've done nothing to this woman. Now I get she must be respected here but that was rude. Which brings me to why I'm posting this.
-This place is very 1 sided. You're not allowed to have opposing viewpoints without being called out as rude, or as ESMERALDA says pitiful.
-You're not allowed to be a fan in peace of a particular character because you'll have someone who'll reticule that person on purpose. This is something I've experienced from ESMERALDA also. Every thread I commented in she'd derail topics with her anti Piper rants. Its annoying and shows that there isn't any respect here on a so called fan site. Especially since she knew I was a Piper fan.
-This place is very negative! I'm not even sure why this is a fan site. Theres countless threads dissecting every aspect of this show. I'm not even sure why certain members are here either with their bias viewpoints. Theres a difference in discussion of topics and being flat out bias and negative.
-You're not allowed to be a fan of later Charmed seasons. Yes they lack in quality compared to the earlier seasons, but I've visited threads where people were attacked just for saying they like season 8. Again no respect.
-This place just isn't very active.... AND NOW I SEE WHY!
If you want new members here, be more accepting of opposite opinions. Allow members to enjoy ALL of Charmed instead of your personal idealogies of YOUR PERFECT CHARMED.
-ESMERALDA stop pushing your fan fictions on new members, no one cares for it other than established members here. -ESMERALDA stop bullying people (new members) because they don't agree with your version of Charmed. -ESMERALDA stop posting threads that do nothing but add to the negativity of these forums. Try posting something positive for once.
ASTRALVISION CHRISAHOLIC IAMTHESUN
*Thank you 3 for being flawless welcoming members. I wish other people here can be as nice, open minded, and great discussion makers as you guys are. You guys lead by example and its a shame I no longer want to be a part of these forums because of the biasness of other people on these forums.
-After reading the conversation above, I cannot deal with more of these type of individuals. There just isn't any need for rude and arrogance especially for Charmed. Name calling is just uneccessary. I'm not taking any sides in that conversation but its ridiculous and took away my enjoyment of the forums.
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forbuss
Witch
currently watching season seven
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Post by forbuss on Feb 24, 2014 2:49:35 GMT -5
Honestly Primose, you are not getting what I am saying and you are saying the same things over and over again.
A) Lack of direction from all parts will affect work environment from my experience.
B) I am not upset, I am passionate about acting. In this post once again you are saying that I should know certain things about acting just because you say that they are so - just because you think so doesn't mean everyone does or should.
C) You are not stating your opinion about Rose, you are stating your opinion as though it's truth. You literally just posted that I should be able to tell "different types of casts" apart, implying that (from your last post) I should be able to tell that Rose is an awful actress and only got anywhere from her looks. I know about type casting, so don't you dare try to say that you aren't telling me that I "should" know something about acting without knowing what I know. Once again, this is exactly what you are doing. The purpose of message boards isn't to be so combative - it's a friendly environment.
D) I have seen all Charmed interviews pertaining to the circumstances surrounding Shannen. You are proving my point by saying no such interview exists - in your previous posts you are sounding as though you know what happened because of the tidbits that you see from the interviews, and even say that you have put 2+2 together. Just because you have put 2 and 2 together doesn't make it the gospel truth.
In closing, I will not respond to any more posts regarding this. These posts that you keep continuing on and telling me to "calm down" are making a negative space for the boards. I have been an advocate of making this board a positive space from day 1, so I am not going to participate in this discussion with you any longer. This is why I took the initiative to private message you to clear things up, but it clearly didn't do any good. You can message me again if you wish.
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