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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 13, 2016 13:41:15 GMT -5
Cleaner: Because until then miss Halliwell magic hadn't been exposed that way before so there was no need to clean it up till you and your sister Prue stupidly went out into the street and vanquished Shax in broad daylight on tv which any witch of your experience should've known there could've been someone watching which's your own fault really.
Just an example quote of how they might respond back obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 17:38:21 GMT -5
Good answer.
Too bad the writers never thought of it.
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Post by ShadowCat on Aug 13, 2016 18:13:49 GMT -5
We can see mistakes all over the place. All we can do is comment on them, deal with it and move on. Or not.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 14, 2016 2:39:25 GMT -5
Exactly.
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Post by BookShelfy91 on Aug 28, 2016 2:18:46 GMT -5
Assuming Leo knew about the Cleaners existance....why weren't they a suggestion that was made in season 3 when they were exposed using magic on live tv? Why was the first person they went to a demon? Admittedly they had previous interactions with the demon that was used. Why wait that long? Was this not a big enough risk? Or did the Cleaners forsee the Charmed ones contacting the underworld and the Source agreeing under certain consequences?
Shelfy
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Post by Elle Em on Aug 28, 2016 6:50:30 GMT -5
It's a big plot hole, isn't it? And they could have explained all these inconsistencies when the Cleaners were officially introduced in season 6, but they didn't. I just like to pretend they don't exist.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 28, 2016 8:56:43 GMT -5
Ha, ha, ha that's funny. Elle Em.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Sept 1, 2016 8:17:08 GMT -5
Still, the Cleaners knew about the Charmed Ones' history with exposing magic, yet this episode seems to be forgotten. Completely. But there it was mainly about cops and the Charmed Ones.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 2, 2016 4:20:32 GMT -5
The Cleaners are neutral,they act to conceal the magical world, that doesn't mean they can't have some power connection with some Elders or Upper Level Demon The speed record with which they step against Wyatt and not against Shax it's suspect They'ld be neutral but they surely have likes and dislikes, and maybe an own agenda
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Post by BookShelfy91 on Sept 4, 2016 5:10:41 GMT -5
That's a massive plot hole. I didn't even think about it until now....might have to do a rewatch I think..
Shelfy
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 4, 2016 17:50:26 GMT -5
The Cleaners are neutral,they act to conceal the magical world, that doesn't mean they can't have some power connection with some Elders or Upper Level Demon The speed record with which they step against Wyatt and not against Shax it's suspect They'ld be neutral but they surely have likes and dislikes, and maybe an own agenda You know, the cleaners were suppose to be neutral? Well you brought to mind an interesting idea. It might have made a fun episode if the cleaners had to jump in and fix some of the mess that demons set at the table of magic. Maybe my old memory needs to do some research, but I don't recall that happening. Was there something out there about that? To me the cleaners appeared to be very one sided. If that is the case than maybe the cleaners need cleaning. That would be fine with me as I didn't like them anyway.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 5, 2016 3:24:13 GMT -5
I agree, I believe they had their own agenda, maybe they represented a third pole of power, like the Avatars, the Charmed universe was very multifaceted and very populated Surely, they didn't like the sisters and their bloodline
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Post by BookShelfy91 on Sept 6, 2016 4:52:27 GMT -5
I agree that they seemed to have their own agenda and definitely had it in for the Warren line. I wonder why? Did the girls mother maybe cause them some trouble? I mean Grams definitely would have....she just seems the type.
Shelfy
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Post by unakite on Sept 6, 2016 11:17:41 GMT -5
I'ld make a bet on Penny
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 9, 2016 9:34:32 GMT -5
I agree that they seemed to have their own agenda and definitely had it in for the Warren line. I wonder why? Did the girls mother maybe cause them some trouble? I mean Grams definitely would have....she just seems the type. Shelfy I'm not so sure about that. The first time the Cleaners show up is when Wyatt decides he wants a dragon. Magic had been exposed a few times before that and they didn't bother to drop by. Maybe the reasoning is in the numbers. A few people, well fine, the masses not so much. On the other had if they had it in for the Warren line they could have used anything as an excuse to play Homeland Security. I do think that before you are allowed to become a member of the cleaning crew you need to at least take a few classes in human psychology. For the most part witches with or without power are humans. Taking a child away from its mommy is a snap decision that could back fire. Piper, or any other mom might negelect her magical duties and spend the rest of her life tracking down her off-spring. This could end in a drastic shift in good vs. evil. Do we see cause and effect here? One thing that disturbed me about them is their gender. What is this, a good old boy's club. Even the NRA is open to woman. Perhaps the female touch is needed for balance when it comes to dealing with both sexes in the magical realm. Hey you cleaning freaks and geeks, I'm PMS right now ..... bite me why don't you!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 15, 2016 16:35:17 GMT -5
I agree that they seemed to have their own agenda and definitely had it in for the Warren line. I wonder why? Did the girls mother maybe cause them some trouble? I mean Grams definitely would have....she just seems the type. Shelfy That Seventies Episode! The sisters went back in time to change the whole thing with the ring and the Cleaners didn't like it. Penny gave them hell and they backed off. But then they kept taking it out on the sisters... Biggest problem - Kern didn't know the meaning of the word "neutral" if it came up and bit him in the butt! Can you honestly think of any of his groups who didn't have their own agenda and weren't as evil as the demons - the Charmed Ones and Leo included? I sure can't. It's why he's Kernus Braddus, the Demon of Inconsistency, and why I prefer the first two seasons over the last six.
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Post by unakite on Sept 15, 2016 21:32:19 GMT -5
I cannnot: everyone has their own ideas and intentions The neutrality of the Cleaners only means that they not belong neither to the Elders's world or Underworld but there may be other powers groups, a group that is willing to do anything as long as the magic was not exposed Though, in the Chris's future, magic is well known and accepted
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 16, 2016 5:13:13 GMT -5
I cannnot: everyone has their own ideas and intentions The neutrality of the Cleaners only means that they not belong neither to the Elders's world or Underworld but there may be other powers groups, a group that is willing to do anything as long as the magic was not exposed Though, in the Chris's future, magic is well known and accepted Maybe, the Cleaners have power just because they convinced the magical world that magic must be hidden
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 16, 2016 6:31:15 GMT -5
Oh Es, Kern (Kernus Braddus) the Demon of Inconsistency ....... I have heard him called a number of things, but that's at the top of my list. Thank You.
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 11, 2017 2:57:17 GMT -5
I wondered more about the type of proof she could actually gain. I mean how could prove demons existed on charmed
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