Prue's name count S4-S8

[goldeneye049]

Apr 5, 2022 20:51:31 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Everyone on this show has amnesia and tells different variations of the same stories. Kern has said he never invited or wanted Shannen in the final episode, Shannen says she was approached and turned down being in the final episode...these people cant keep it together.

But they were extremely lazy with how they treated Prue in death. There were so many ways to get around the Shannen of it all. Forever Charmed should've had them get child Prue instead of child Piper. They could've used child Prue A LOT throughout 5-8. Hell they even could've given us an old woman Prue from some sort of alternate reality. Could've given us someone possessed by Prue.

So okay with the photos of little Prue or Grams talking with Prue. I always wanted this. They destroyed Prue.

[prudencehalliwell]

As others have suggested. Plenty of ways to use or incorporate Prue and honor her more without even using Shannen period.

- Little Prue in flashbacks, or in Forever Charmed with Grams talking to Prue.
- The spirit board
- Prue writing messages in the book of shadows.
- Someone possessed by Prue, where she has a message for her sisters. (I've seen some shows typically do this when someone wants to contact the dead, it's through possession. Or the dead person, takes possession of someone nearby when the spell is cast.)
- Visiting her grave.
- Old woman Prue from some sort of an alternate reality.
- Have one of Prue's diaries or journals being read. A way Paige could get to know Prue, without actually being able to contact her ghost. 

[BriannaWarren2.0]

Apr 6, 2022 7:02:50 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

As others have suggested. Plenty of ways to use or incorporate Prue and honor her more without even using Shannen period.

- Little Prue in flashbacks, or in Forever Charmed with Grams talking to Prue.
- The spirit board
- Prue writing messages in the book of shadows.
- Someone possessed by Prue, where she has a message for her sisters. (I've seen some shows typically do this when someone wants to contact the dead, it's through possession. Or the dead person, takes possession of someone nearby when the spell is cast.)
- Visiting her grave.
- Old woman Prue from some sort of an alternate reality.
- Have one of Prue's diaries or journals being read. A way Paige could get to know Prue, without actually being able to contact her ghost. 

THIS! ALL OF THIS! 

Man, the writers were incompetent. 

[Esmeralda]

Apr 6, 2022 11:42:47 GMT -5 BriannaWarren2.0 said:

Apr 6, 2022 7:02:50 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

As others have suggested. Plenty of ways to use or incorporate Prue and honor her more without even using Shannen period.

- Little Prue in flashbacks, or in Forever Charmed with Grams talking to Prue.
- The spirit board
- Prue writing messages in the book of shadows.
- Someone possessed by Prue, where she has a message for her sisters. (I've seen some shows typically do this when someone wants to contact the dead, it's through possession. Or the dead person, takes possession of someone nearby when the spell is cast.)
- Visiting her grave.
- Old woman Prue from some sort of an alternate reality.
- Have one of Prue's diaries or journals being read. A way Paige could get to know Prue, without actually being able to contact her ghost. 

THIS! ALL OF THIS! 

Man, the writers were incompetent. 

No. Kern and Aaron Spelling were. They're the ones who obviously wanted us to forget all about Prue and never considered bringing her back in one of these ways.

[Aaeiyn]

Apr 14, 2022 22:37:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

No. Kern and Aaron Spelling were. They're the ones who obviously wanted us to forget all about Prue.

You state this like it's a "fact" rather than opinion.

EDIT: I understand some (not all) feel that specified individuals (depending on who you talk to) may (keyword) have wanted to "erase" Prue, but I don't feel nor ever have felt that way.  And, if some (not all) fans want to spew out their opinions as if they're facts, at the very least provide some source links, to back up these claims.

Apr 5, 2022 20:51:31 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Everyone on this show has amnesia and tells different variations of the same stories. Kern has said he never invited or wanted Shannen in the final episode, Shannen says she was approached and turned down being in the final episode...these people cant keep it together.

I'd like to know what sources where these things occurred, so I can read/see it, for myself.

EDIT 2: Upon my own digging, Shannen says (herself) that she rejected wanting to do the finale because she didn't like the direction that the show took her character and why she said "no", to that. So, it seems like she was asked, but she said "no". And, she re-iterates the same thing that Holly and Kern assumed, when Shannen began talking about the comic books and about her being paid to appear and whatnot. So, it seems like they did try to get her back, but she said "no":


EDIT 3: The only source material I have regarding Kern is the one I linked prior regarding Kern wanting to invite Shannen back but couldn't afford her appearance and whatnot. If somebody can find me an article or video interview of Kern stating he didn't want to invite Shannen back, I'm all ears.

[Sandra]

They never approched her to return for the finale of S8. Kern made that very clear in interviews. I remember that in 2006.

They entertained the idea of having her back in Season 7. The Charmedones.com site  (they used to have insider sources for spoilers and set news) which I remember reading said asked her back. She likely declined. Chances are everybody is mixing up the seasons.

Longtime fans remember it. I sure do. History has changed. Now all of a sudden she WAS approched for the last episode. Like CharmedFaith said, they can't keep their story straight. 

Here's the archive:

Shannen asked back in S7:

To all of those that have been wondering for a Shannen Doherty return then... well she won't be back any time soon, but I have been told that Shannen was contacted about doing a February (Sweeps Return) Episode and this time she did not decline although she did not accept, she simply said she would get back to them, and by she I mean her agent, I guess we can hope can't we? 

web.archive.org/web/20041207012653/http://www.thecharmedones.com/charmedinsider.htm


Kern never invited Shannen for the finale.

Brad Kern, executive producer of The WB's Charmed, told SCI FI Wire that he didn't ask original cast member Shannen Doherty to join a host of returning actors for the series' upcoming finale and added that he had his reasons. Doherty's character, Prue Halliwell, was killed off in 2001; though the series' magical storylines would have allowed the return of the character, Kern said: "There are a lot of issues, mostly internal and financial, as to why we didn't ask Shannen back." He added in an interview on the show's set on March 28: "Prue's memory will be kept [alive] and be honored, but we didn't ask Shannen to come back. ... The show is more about the sisters who are here, not the one who's not." Indeed, the character of Paige (played by Rose McGowan starting in 2001) has been on the series longer than Doherty's Prue.

www.tivocommunity.com/threads/executive-producer-brad-kern-on-charmed-series-finale-spoilers-casting-info.293959/

Despite Prue’s memory factoring into the series finale, “there was no talk about bringing [Shannen Doherty] back physically,” Kern says. “We just didn’t believe it could ever happen — that she would ever want to do it, or the network would want to do it. And we may have been wrong. She might have jumped at the chance. But there were a lot of internal issues that led up to her leaving … on a lot of different people’s sides. It just felt like that was probably not ever going to be able to happen. That was the prevailing opinion at the time.”

tvline.com/gallery/charmed-anniversary-photos-biggest-moments-prue-death-phoebe-cole/charmed-season-8-finale-001/


So it seems they toyed with the idea of having Prue appear in the 150th episode 'The Seven Year Witch'. Likely the story would have been written differenly once they knew Shannen was down to come back. This is just speculation on my part. 

Anyone here think she may have been asked back for 'Something Wicca This Way Goes' too. Maybe Shannen mixed up that episode as the series finale in that interview. As them contacting her at that point in time, it nearly could have been the last episode.

Just trying to make sense of all the conflicting and changing stories over the years. Revisionist history.

[Aaeiyn]

Apr 15, 2022 5:12:47 GMT -5 Sandra said:

Chances are everybody is mixing up the seasons.

Maybe Shannen mixed up that episode as the series finale in that interview. As them contacting her at that point in time, it nearly could have been the last episode.

This is probably the likely scenario. I don't want to think anyone is a liar. It would make sense why she wasn't asked back in the S8 finale because of S8's poor budget. I mean, they even ditched Brian Krause's character, for half of the season. I do believe the network had issues with Shannen and not Brad Kern, himself 'cause even Krista Vernoff threw the network underneath the bus, as well. I believe the network is what's to blame for all of Charmed's issues. In some ways, I guess the spineless Kern for not speaking up more instead of bending over backwards for the network/studio/whatever, but I digress. Even in your sources, Kern confirms he was afraid Doherty would just say "no", again, (to the S8 finale) just like she did with S7's finale. And, the interview I linked clearly shows her saying "no", and I can imagine the spineless Kern assuming she'll just say "no" again so why bother, right?

Apr 15, 2022 5:12:47 GMT -5 Sandra said:

Just trying to make sense of all the conflicting and changing stories over the years.

Same here.

[BriannaWarren2.0]

Apr 14, 2022 22:37:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Apr 6, 2022 11:42:47 GMT -5 BriannaWarren2.0 said:

THIS! ALL OF THIS! 

Man, the writers were incompetent. 

No. Kern and Aaron Spelling were. They're the ones who obviously wanted us to forget all about Prue and never considered bringing her back in one of these ways.

Agreed! Everyone is to blame. 

[Aaeiyn]

As I'm skim watching some S5, there's another Prue mention even though nobody said it. It's in S5E16 "Baby's First Demon", when Piper, Leo and Paige are looking at the same family tree list from S2E14 "Pardon My Past". Unlike, S2E14 "Pardon My Past", S5E16 "Baby's First Demon" actually clearly shows Prue's part, of the tree including her Past Self via P. Bowen: Screenshot. That's from S5E16 "Baby's First Demon" and NOT S2E14 "Pardon My Past".

[Emmett]

Sept 1, 2015 3:11:58 GMT -5 West said:

I did the seasons using scripts, but just looking for the words prue, made life easier to find them using the find key under edit.



Season 4 Episodes

Okay well Charmed Again Part 1 and 2 and Hell Hath No Fury we all know had tones of mentions.


Enter The Demon

An-Ling: But I didn't kill him. I made him stronger. Strong enough to remove my father's magic and wisdom from the world. I don't feel worthy of following in his footsteps.
Piper: I understand. I recently lost my big sister who was… pretty good at just about everything she did. Very tough shoes to fill.
An-Ling: Where did you find the strength?
Piper: I haven't yet, but I'll let you know when I do.

Size Matters

Piper: What’s wrong with P3?

Treat: Well, you know we polled people and most of them thought it was a parking level. I mean I don’t even know what it stands for.

Piper: It stands for Prue, Piper, and Phoebe. We are P3. We were.

A Knight To Remember

Phoebe: I didn't mean are we ready as witches. I meant are we ready as sisters? I mean, what if we don't get along?

Piper: We didn't always get along with Prue either.

Phoebe: Yeah, but that's different. We grew up with her. Eventually we had to get along. I still half expect to see her walk through the door. Maybe it's just too soon.

Piper: Then there's only one way to find out.

Piper: Paige, the Charmed Ones come first!

Phoebe: The Charmed Ones come first?

Piper: It always worked when Prue said it.

Leo: You're not alone anymore. You have sisters now.

Paige: Yeah. Sisters who are pressuring me to move in with them for all the wrong reasons.

Leo: What is that supposed to mean?

Paige: Nothing. Forget about it. Look, it's just sometimes I feel like they want me to Prue, super witch. And I can't. I don't know how.

Prince: But isn't that what true love is? (He sits down next to her.) Falling under someone's spell? Just tell me what you want and I'll give it to you. I swear.

Paige: Can you make me as good as Prue was?

Prince: Uhh...

Paige: Never mind. You wouldn't understand.

Brain Drain

Piper: I know. We will. (She gets up and goes and sits down next to Becca. She sees her smiling.) What?

Becca: Nothing. It's just good to see you out and about again, that's all.

Piper: Yeah, after Prue died it took some time to...

Becca: Yeah, but even before that. It's almost like the last three or four years you've just kinda disappeared.

Piper: Yeah.

Paige: I thought you said I wasn't good enough for your little coven.

Piper: Paige, you are under a spell, you don't know what you're talking about.

Paige: I tried to be your friend, I even tried to play your stupid witchy games, but all you could do was complain about me and my stuff and how we didn't compare to your beloved Prue.

Alaster: You use it to explain things you can't accept. Just like your best friend did before she got well. Prue.

Piper: Don't you dare talk about Prue.

Paige: Here we go again. Say Prue.

Alaster: You've never forgiven her from finally accepting that she wasn't a witch. You've convinced yourself that she's dead.

Piper: She is dead.

Alaster: No, she's not. We released her three months ago. She's recovered, she's free. Just like you could be if you'd stop fighting it. Accept the reality.

Piper: Let me out of these restraints, I'll show you some reality.

Phoebe: We can't give up now. We are so close. We have to take out the Source if we can. And if not just for our sake, then for Prue's.

Piper: Fine. I just hope we don't end up where she did.

Black as Cole

Phoebe: All that would do is keep him from doing future good and put
your life at risk in the process. Emma, please, please, just let it go.

Emma: Let it go? Have you ever lost someone? To evil, I mean.

Phoebe: Yes.

Emma: And did you just let it go?

Muses to My Ears

Piper: What you don't get is that Phoebe is trying to do the exact same thing. She's always been the youngest sister, the eternal child. Care free, fun loving.

Cole: And?

Leo: And in a minute, she lost Prue, discovered Paige, and became the middle sister.

Piper: And to top it all off, you propose. The idea of marriage, being that much of a grownup is terrifying to Phoebe.

A Paige of the Past

First episode of series and season to not mention Prue

Trail by Magic

Leo: Because you don't know what you might be erasing. Doctors appointments, childrens birthdays...

Piper: Leo, this is an emergency. I can not live with these people knowing our secret, knowing that at any minute we could relive the hell we went through with Prue.

Leo: Okay.

Lost and Bound

Piper: I don't know, maybe. All I do know is that when we finally got our powers back, it felt like we were scrambling to catch up. And I can't help but think if we had our powers from day one we would have been more prepared. Things would have turned out different.

Leo: Prue would still be alive?

Piper: And the Source would be dead. And we would be on our way to having a family as apposed to just talking about it.

Leo: Life would be perfect.

Piper: Not perfect, just easier.

Charmed and Dangerous

The Source: Seems almost anti-climatic after all this time, doesn't it? Say hello to Prue for me.

Phoebe: Oh, honey, are you still on that will and testament kick? I gotta tell you, it's very, very morbid.

Piper: No, it's very, very responsible. Prue did it and thank god she did, 'cause if she didn't we'll still be dealing with lawyers. (to Cole) No offence.

Cole: Oh, none taken. I've come to terms with my evil past.

Piper: I don't know. But at least that part of the nightmare's over.

Phoebe: For Prue.

(They clink their beer bottles.)

Piper: For Prue.

The Three Faces of Phoebe

Little Phoebe: Stay away from me or I'll sick Prue on you.

Piper: Oh, yeah, don't go there.

Marry Go Round

Piper: Oh, please, this looks nothing like Death. Prue met him, I know.

Paige: No, you're missing the point. This is a bad omen.

Piper: Well, not necessarily.

Phoebe: And then Prue crashed through the front door on a Harley.
Piper: Yeah, only Prue could make my wedding day all about her. But the point is, I barely remember the ceremony, it's a total blur. And in the end all that matters is that you marry the guy that you love, and if you manage to do that your wedding was perfect.

The Fifth Halliwheel

No Prue mention, second episode of season 4 with nothing

Saving Private Leo

No Prue mention, third episode of season 4 with nothing

Bite Me

No Prue mention, fourth episode of season 4 with nothing

Were off to see the Wizard

No Prue mention, fifth episode of season 4 with nothing

Long Live The Queen

Paige: You could try that.
Leo: It's just when Piper lost Prue, she barely survived and she thinks she's really gonna lose Phoebe and I think she might just...
Paige: Listen, just go talk to her, okay, remind her that we have a demon to fight. Maybe that'll do her some good and take her mind off Phoebe.

Womb Raider

No Prue mention, six episode of season 4 with nothing

Witch Way Now

No Prue mention, seventh episode of season 4 with nothing

Season 4 Count Total
Prue Mentions: 15 Episodes
No Mentions: 7 episodes






Season 5 Episodes

A Witches Tale Part 1
A Witches Tale Part 2
Happily Ever After
Siren Song
Witches in Tights
The Eyes Have It

No mentions in the first 6 episodes of season 5

Sympathy For The Demon

Paige: Well, the attic was feeling a little cramped, you know, I thought a change of scenery might help.

Leo: Hmm. (He walks over to the table.) Prue's animal conjuring spell, huh? That's a tough one.

Paige: Yeah, tell me about it. How long did it take her to get it down.

Leo: A couple of days at least.

Paige: Oh, good, then I don't feel so bad.

Leo: What's going on, Paige?

Paige: Nothing.

Leo: Paige...

Paige: You promise you won't tell Piper and Phoebe?

Leo: Yep.

Paige: Okay, Prue was this awesome witch with a full time job and I quit my job to be a full time witch and I still haven't reached her level yet which makes me feel incredibly frustrated and lame.

Leo: Well, I thought you were done comparing yourself to Prue.

Paige: Yeah, so did I. It's just these last couple of days for some reason I've been feeling a little insecure. And this stupid spell isn't helping any. Come on, now, give me a dove, any dove. (She throws something in the pot and nothing happens.) Nothing.

Phoebe: We've never been able to vanquish him, just neutralise him.

Piper: Actually we didn't, Prue did.

Paige: Well, maybe you can just do whatever Prue did to banish him last time.

Phoebe: It won't work.

Leo: Prue didn't banish him with a spell, she banished him by conquering her fears.

Phoebe: Paige, orb the potion.

Paige: It's in a puddle.

Piper: You can do it. Prue did.

Barbas: Ay, there's the rub. You're no Prue are you?

Paige: Potion!

A Witch in Time
Sam I Am
Y Tu Mummy Tambien
The Importance of Being Phoebe

Again no mentions in these

Centennial Charmed

Paige: Of course. Leo, the club.

Leo: What about it? It's been like this for over a year. Ever since Piper walked away from it, right after Prue died.

Paige: That is not true. The club is kicking behind. Michelle Branch was just playing here and I sneezed and then I or... orbed out. Maybe if I sneeze again. (She sneezes.) Did I orb?




Paige: Shax? What's she talking about? We vanquished him already.

Leo: Nobody's vanquished Shax. Ever since he killed Prue, Piper's been obsessed with getting revenge on him.




Paige: A hospital. Yeah, yeah, you keep saying the same thing in any reality. Hey, who else but a sister would know that?

Piper: We must be pretty close then, the three of us? (Paige nods.) Like Phoebe and I were with Prue.

Paige: Yeah, close enough to have avenged Prue's death together.




Piper: Did you guys try to vanquish Belthazor ever?

Paige: No, but you and Prue almost tried. You guys had a vanquishing potion, right?

Piper: How do you know that?

Paige: Book of Shadows. Also says that it needs a piece of his flesh to make it work.


Phoebe: Look, the only one getting anything out of this is you. And I have no idea what that is. The only reason I'm still here is to make sure that what happened to Prue does not happen to Piper, and you know it.

Cole: What happened to us, Phoebe? How'd we get here? We used to be so in love. Even without your sisters, it's not working. Why?

House Call
San Franisco Dreamin
The Day the Magic Died

No mentions at all

Babys First Demon

Piper: Well, when I went to the future I had a little girl and obviously that has changed, as has a lot of things but, um, I'm still having trouble letting go of the name we settled on.

Phoebe: Yeah, well, Prudence Melinda might get him in trouble at school too.

Lucky Charmed

No Mentions

Cat House

Phoebe: Yeah, but sweetie, what do you expect? You didn't know her back then. It doesn't mean you're any less apart of us though, you know that, right?

Paige: Yeah, I know. It would've been cool though. Hang out with you, see what you guys were like, maybe meet Prue.



Phoebe: I-I don't know what you're talking about.

Katrina: Where's the disinfectant? Didn't it used to be kept in Prue's bathroom?

Phoebe: No, it's in the kitchen.

Paige: What is going on?


Past Piper: So what are we supposed to do now?

Past Phoebe: I don't know, kill innocents?

Past Piper: No, I mean about Prue.


Paige: I can't believe Prue ruined Piper's wedding.


(A white dog runs past them, following Kit.)

Phoebe: You said you always wanted to meet Prue, right? That's another little spell gone awry.

[Scene from episode 3.21 "Look Who's Barking". Kit runs up the stairs and Piper, Phoebe and Leo come down the stairs. They stop Prue.]

Nymphs Just Want To Have Fun
Sense & Sense Ability

No mentions

Necromancing The Stone

Grams: You saw it yourself when you went to the future.

Piper: That was also the future where Prue was still alive and witches were burned at the stake. Things change.

Grams: Not this. Oh, it's just that I'm worried about the family, you know. We don't know what to expect.

Oh My Goddess, Pt 1

No Mentions

Oh My Goddess, Pt 2

Leo: The Elders were wrong about us. They didn't think our love could survive but it did. Our love blessed us in ways they couldn't even imagine. It gave you the strength that you needed to take over from Prue, it produced a baby with a greater future than any of us, and it made me...

Piper: An Elder.

Leo: Our love it transcendent, Piper. It lifted me up so high that this was the only possible result. Being an Elder wasn't my destiny, but yet here I am because of you.

Season 5 Count
Total Prue Mentions: 6 Episodes
No Mentions: 16 episodes


Season 6 episodes


Valhalley of the Dolls, Pt 2

Leo: You'll get the handle of it, just be patient.

Phoebe: Are you sure? Because I remember Prue almost being destroyed that time she was an empath.

Leo: Well, she wasn't supposed to become one, you are. Maybe all this with Piper has made it happen a little sooner but you can handle it, I know you can.

Chris Crossed

Phoebe: Well, we can't leave you alone, we have to stick together.

Piper: No, I know, believe me, I know. But you can't keep sacrificing your lives forever and neither can I. Mom did that, Grams did it and even Prue. And look what happened to them. It's not a legacy I want us to inherit.

Paige: What if it doesn't work out, us going our separate ways?

Piper: Well, we'll worry about it then.

Prince Charmed

Darryl: Hey, do these go?

Paige: Ah, no, grab those two.

Phoebe: The charm bracelet that mum gave Piper and Piper loved it but then Prue lost it.

Paige: Why don't we just cast a...

Hyde School Reunion

Piper: Not the drive by kind, but he was kind of the type. If he is at the reunion I'd stay away from him.

Paige: This is so weird. It's a whole different side of Miss Phoebe.

Piper:
Yeah, I think she missed mum in her life more than Prue or I did. And
the more Grams tried to control her, the more she became rebellious.

Crimes and Witch Demeanors

Barbas: Truly tragic. That was their sister Prue's first true love. I wonder whatever happened to her.

(Phoebe goes to stand up.)

Gideon: Don't. It's not worth it.

Season 6 Count Total
Prue Mentions: 5 Episodes
No Mentions: 17 episodes


Season 7 Episodes




Cheaper By the Coven

Grams: That my being a witch was such an important part of my life and
what it meant to me, and what it might mean to you someday.

Piper:
Did you tell us that Prue and mum were gonna die? That Leo was gonna
lose his marbles. Or that demons were gonna be chasing after us all the
time everywhere.

Grams: Piper, I didn't know any of those things
were going to happen. But if I did, I would've done everything in my
power to stop it. (They hug.) I'd like to think that being a witch gave
you the inner strength you needed to deal with all those sadness's in
your life. Did you ever think about that?

Styx Feet Under

Angel of Death: I'm the Angel of Death. (Arthur faints onto the couch.) I
knew your sister, your mother, of course, and your grandmother.

Seven Year Witch

Cole: Why? (He stands up.) Because I know you so well? Remember, I
go all the way back to Prue. I was actually at your wedding. The fact
is, Leo and I are a lot alike. We both tried to change the world to save
our marriages.

Piper: You are nothing alike and just because we have history doesn’t mean you know anything about me or love.

Scry Hard

Zankou: Listen to this. "Prue was always the strong one. Now that she's gone, I don't know if we'll have the strength to keep fighting for good.
Or if it's even worth it."
Craven: Yes, well, if only...
Zankou:Humans are slaves to their own emotions. And the strongest emotion is love. That's why Piper didn't leave her husband's side to fight. That was my miscalculation. They would go through hell to stay together. (Craven clears his throat.) What is it?

Something Wicca This Way Goes?

Sheridan: He disappeared, and I think I know who knows why ... the same people who probably know what happened to three other cops who were either killed or mysteriously disappeared in the past seven years: Inspectors Trudeau, Rodriguez, and Davidson. Then there are all the civilian cases, including one of their own sisters -- Prue Halliwell.
Agent Keyes: (unimpressed) That's it?




Paige: Well, I kinda wish we'd learned how to do it earlier. Would've come in handy.
Phoebe: Well, Prue was really protective of it. I'm just glad she showed Leo how to do it.



(The girls are passed out on the couch when they return to their bodies.)

(They gasp and sit up.)

Paige: Ah, astral projecting worked.
Piper: Thank you, Prue.
Phoebe: The Book.

Season 7 Count Total
Prue Mentions: 5 Episodes
No Mentions: 17 episodes



Season 8 Episodes

Kill Billie Vol. 1

PIPER: Really? 'Cause something happened to Prue. We die to have normal lives. We come back from the dead to get our old lives back, and,
somehow, we end up living in a fishbowl. (Piper points the knife at Paige.) You know, Agent

Forever Charmed

Piper: No dad. Sorry, all girls.
Patty: Oh, you mean it's just you and Prue, huh?
Leo: Maybe we shouldn't tell them too much. You know, changing the past might change the future.


Past Victor: Almost three.
Piper: So Prue would be five, and Phoebe…
Patty: Phoebe? Wait, who's Phoebe?


Little Piper: Not as special as Prue, or even Phoebe. Everyone likes Phoebe.



Patty: Right, but where's Prue?
Piper: Oh, mom. Not now.



Patty: There's just as much I don't ever want to know. (She sighs.) Like what happened to Prue. Victor told me.
Piper: Oh, mom.
Patty: That's all right. I know everything happens for a reason. I believe that. I also know that when one door closes another one opens.

Season 8 Count Total
Prue Mentions: 2 Episodes (worst ever)
No Mentions: 20 episodes




Total Prue mentions during seasons 4 through 8: 32 Episodes Total

*sigh* I knew the Prue mentions got less as the series progressed, but it breaks my heart to see how non-existent she becomes the more the show went on.

What's worse for me. The only time Prue seems to be be mostly mentioned is whenever they need to address or reinforce that she died. I get they can't mention her every episode and all the time. But, I'm very disappointed they didn't make an effort to reflect on Prue without having to mostly reinforce her death.

The show writers had so many opportunities to honor or have Prue be included in an episode without needing Shannen. Like using the spirit board or writing messages in the book of shadows or like Patty did magically in 'A Witches Tail'. I'd even have loved to have seen Paige get to know Prue by reading her diaries.

[Emmett]

Apr 6, 2022 11:42:47 GMT -5 BriannaWarren2.0 said:

Apr 6, 2022 7:02:50 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

As others have suggested. Plenty of ways to use or incorporate Prue and honor her more without even using Shannen period.

- Little Prue in flashbacks, or in Forever Charmed with Grams talking to Prue.
- The spirit board
- Prue writing messages in the book of shadows.
- Someone possessed by Prue, where she has a message for her sisters. (I've seen some shows typically do this when someone wants to contact the dead, it's through possession. Or the dead person, takes possession of someone nearby when the spell is cast.)
- Visiting her grave.
- Old woman Prue from some sort of an alternate reality.
- Have one of Prue's diaries or journals being read. A way Paige could get to know Prue, without actually being able to contact her ghost. 

THIS! ALL OF THIS! 

Man, the writers were incompetent. 

I couldn't agree more. I just said below I wished they had Prue use the spirit board or write messages in the book.

All of this would have been wonderful to see.

[Aaeiyn]

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

*sigh* I knew the Prue mentions got less as the series progressed

I've slowly been adding more Prue mentions to the list, as what you quoted doesn't have it all and only what was said through dialogue versus things we see. I've added 4, already. Just when I think I've spotted them all more keep coming up.

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

it breaks my heart to see how non-existent she becomes the more the show went on

I feel the same way about Andy. There's some floating reminisce of his time on the show, but he's more forgotten about than Prue. I don't see as much effort to remember Andy as much effort as there is for Prue.

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

What's worse for me. The only time Prue seems to be be mostly mentioned is whenever they need to address or reinforce that she died. I get they can't mention her every episode and all the time. But, I'm very disappointed they didn't make an effort to reflect on Prue without having to mostly reinforce her death.

I don't mean to repeat myself, but that's exactly how I feel about Andy. Anytime he's mentioned, it's to reinforce his death. S1-S2 did the same thing regarding Patty especially in S1E17 "That 70s Episode". Phoebe was upset that Patty died. Prue kept reinforcing Patty's death, in her head via S2E8 "P3 H20". S5E1-2 "A Witch's Tail, Pt 1 & 2" did this as well. The show kept reinforcing everybody who died...died, this includes Grams. OFC, the difference being we can see the faces of these individuals including Andy. So, that's probably why they don't feel as "forgotten about" due to their images still being able to be used.

I'm quite impressed with the name droppings but definitely agree they could have done more.

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

I'd even have loved to have seen Paige get to know Prue by reading her diaries

Wouldn't that just be reinforcing the fact that Prue is dead?

That being said, I think S5E7 "Sympathy for the Demon" had Paige see Prue's (alleged) animal spell, in the BOS, and she wanted to perfect it. Along with Piper & Phoebe stating that Prue was the only one to ever truly defeat Barbas. And, they even mentioned Prue's talent in TKing a liquid puddle potion.

Again, the show could've done a little bit more, but I don't agree that the show was trying to erase her.

I certainly don't talk nor reminisce over every family member I've lost. I believe the show naturally progressed into talking about her less but bringing her up enough to say we still remember her.

EDIT: If the show really wanted us to forget about her, they wouldn't put in so much effort to name drop her.

[CharmedFaith]

I think the entire point of this topic is about Prue mentions...her name being on a family tree isnt exactly anything special.

[Aaeiyn]

Jul 5, 2022 20:03:36 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

I think the entire point of this topic is about Prue mentions...her name being on a family tree isnt exactly anything special.

I agree it's about Prue mentions. Whether those mentions hold any value or not is not really relevant.

I took noticed how much effort was put in to show Prue's name, on the tree (in S5E16 Baby's First Demon) vs when the family tree was first mentioned in S2E14 "Pardon My Past" cut out her name, entirely. Believe me, I looked.

That being said, I don't feel a lot of these Prue mentions are all that special, TBH. Especially the one in S4E8 "Black as Cole" and the other "Prudence" mention in S5E16 "Baby's First Demon" talking about Pruedence Melinda and not Prue, herself.

[BriannaWarren2.0]

Jul 5, 2022 18:07:31 GMT -5 Emmett said:

Apr 6, 2022 11:42:47 GMT -5 BriannaWarren2.0 said:

THIS! ALL OF THIS! 

Man, the writers were incompetent. 

I couldn't agree more. I just said below I wished they had Prue use the spirit board or write messages in the book.

All of this would have been wonderful to see.

The episode where Paige is trying to master Prue's Animal Conjuring Spell would have been the perfect episode where the Spirit Board or a message in the Book could have been used, imagine after she was able to conjure doves, the spirit board said "great job Paige, love Prue." or Prue gave Paige a message in the Book giving her some sisterly advice on being herself because she will excel at being a witch.

I would have loved that, especially because Prue would have loved how hardworking Paige is. 

 

[Aaeiyn]

Adding more to this:

Sept 1, 2015 3:11:58 GMT -5 West said:

A Knight To Remember

Phoebe: I didn't mean are we ready as witches. I meant are we ready as sisters? I mean, what if we don't get along?

Piper: We didn't always get along with Prue either.

Phoebe: Yeah, but that's different. We grew up with her. Eventually we had to get along. I still half expect to see her walk through the door. Maybe it's just too soon.

Piper: Then there's only one way to find out.

Piper: Paige, the Charmed Ones come first!

Phoebe: The Charmed Ones come first?

Piper: It always worked when Prue said it.

Leo: You're not alone anymore. You have sisters now.

Paige: Yeah. Sisters who are pressuring me to move in with them for all the wrong reasons.

Leo: What is that supposed to mean?

Paige: Nothing. Forget about it. Look, it's just sometimes I feel like they want me to Prue, super witch. And I can't. I don't know how.

Prince: But isn't that what true love is? (He sits down next to her.) Falling under someone's spell? Just tell me what you want and I'll give it to you. I swear.

Paige: Can you make me as good as Prue was?

Prince: Uhh...

Paige: Never mind. You wouldn't understand.

While this episode, itself, says Prue's name, a lot what's not mentioned (and can't believe none of us have really mentioned it, yet, but have in the re-watch) is the necklace that Piper picks up (while reminiscing in Prue's room) that says "Prue" on it. It's not said in the script, but we (the audience) see it.

I'm just trying to expand the list a little bit ;P

[sonja]

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

*sigh* I knew the Prue mentions got less as the series progressed, but it breaks my heart to see how non-existent she becomes the more the show went on.

What's worse for me. The only time Prue seems to be be mostly mentioned is whenever they need to address or reinforce that she died. I get they can't mention her every episode and all the time. But, I'm very disappointed they didn't make an effort to reflect on Prue without having to mostly reinforce her death.

The show writers had so many opportunities to honor or have Prue be included in an episode without needing Shannen. Like using the spirit board or writing messages in the book of shadows or like Patty did magically in 'A Witches Tail'. I'd even have loved to have seen Paige get to know Prue by reading her diaries.

I agree! It would've been so much better if there were more scenes with Piper and Phoebe talking about their memories with Prue that didn't just relate to her dying young. It's like they regret ever creating her character, they wanted to erase her completely.

I also agree with Aaeiyn about Andy. He was Piper and Phoebe's childhood friend too, and it's like he never existed.

[Sandra]

Jul 7, 2022 9:26:56 GMT -5 sonja said:

Jul 5, 2022 18:02:58 GMT -5 Emmett said:

*sigh* I knew the Prue mentions got less as the series progressed, but it breaks my heart to see how non-existent she becomes the more the show went on.

What's worse for me. The only time Prue seems to be be mostly mentioned is whenever they need to address or reinforce that she died. I get they can't mention her every episode and all the time. But, I'm very disappointed they didn't make an effort to reflect on Prue without having to mostly reinforce her death.

The show writers had so many opportunities to honor or have Prue be included in an episode without needing Shannen. Like using the spirit board or writing messages in the book of shadows or like Patty did magically in 'A Witches Tail'. I'd even have loved to have seen Paige get to know Prue by reading her diaries.

I agree! It would've been so much better if there were more scenes with Piper and Phoebe talking about their memories with Prue that didn't just relate to her dying young. It's like they regret ever creating her character, they wanted to erase her completely.

I also agree with Aaeiyn about Andy. He was Piper and Phoebe's childhood friend too, and it's like he never existed.

It sure felt that way.

In regards to Andy. They really forgot that he was Piper and Phoebe's childhood friend too. It's what I hated about Kern's 'Witch Trial'. He wrote it as if Andy was just Prue's love interest who died. There's not a single part of the episode that has Piper and Phoebe mourning their childhood friend too.

[Aaeiyn]

Jul 7, 2022 19:35:06 GMT -5 Sandra said:

In regards to Andy. They really forgot that he was Piper and Phoebe's childhood friend too. It's what I hated about Kern's 'Witch Trial'. He wrote it as if Andy was just Prue's love interest who died. There's not a single part of the episode that has Piper and Phoebe mourning their childhood friend too.

It's another reason I'm not big on the S1 finale (though, I prefer it over all the other ones). Only Prue seemed to care about his death. While Darryl was present at the funeral, I felt like even he didn't seem to care all that much, for the loss of his partner.

That being said, I can't be too nitpicky about Witch Trial. At least, Kern tried to not have us forget about about Andy, that quickly.

[Aaeiyn]

Since, it was mentioned in the Shoutbox, I thought I'd bump this up.