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Post by esperanzaa on Feb 29, 2016 7:53:41 GMT -5
Hi, thought it'd be good to have a general S1 thread, could not find one, and the sub forum is only about S5. I rewatched this season recently, and I thought, that it'd have been better, if the Rex/Hannah story line was in the second half instead of the first, when the sisters had been more experienced. Though I really like the storyline. What about you? write all your opinions about this season in here.  |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 29, 2016 9:17:22 GMT -5
Good idea, especially since that tends to be a favorite of most of fans so we might bring some positivity to the site. Here's my Season One Summary from my latest re-watch. My opinions haven't changed too much since then. SEASON ONE - Summary
Like I've been saying all along, I've been thoroughly enjoying my first Charmed re-watch in several years, getting to see what the sisters started like, and wishing they could've remained more like them. Yeah, it took them a while to get their footing, but once they did, oh, it was such fun!
As always, I loved it best when they were acting like sisters, with the supernatural part of it a distant second, especially when that part would scare the bejesus out of me, the reason why I don't watch most supernatural shows which are usually all about special effects trying to (and usually succeeding) in giving me nightmares, or teenagers with a lot of teenaged angst, neither of which appeal to me, but since it appears that both do appeal to others, I can see why they like those shows. It's why I've never watched Buffy or Supernatural, but I can see why others have enjoyed those shows.
I loved Prue and Andy's love story, but I wish that Andy had found out Prue's secret much earlier and that she hadn't lied to him, the way I will always wish that Phoebe didn't lie to Prue about vanquishing Cole - turnabout is fair play, Prue! I wish Prue and Andy had been the couple we got to follow throughout the entire series (with them always being lovers but never married and never having kids, at least not until the truce in Season 8) rather than Piper and Leo, whose love story I ADORED during this season, but makes me shudder as I remember what happens to it in latter years.
What I didn't like was the glimpses of what they're going to turn into - Prue's pride; Piper's self-centeredness; Phoebe thinking that sex=love. Had these glimpses been all we would've seen throughout the entire series, that would be perfect since they wouldn't be perfect and boring. But we all know better as Prue's pride will lead to her death; Piper's self-centeredness will turn her into Poor, Poor, Pitiful Piper and Phoebe thinking that sex=love will turn her into PhoeME.
People who love moral ambiguity probably loved those glimpses and what came from them. I who don't no matter how unrealistic that is don't. When I watch a pure fantasy show, which I'm partially watching so I can get lost in a fantasy world and totally forget about the real world and all of its problems, I want my good characters to be good and my evil characters to be evil and never the twain shall meet. This is especially true of Rex and Hannah. I'm so glad they didn't end up being good - Rex is so deliciously evil and I love his version of astral projection. I really wish that only Hannah had died (can't stand that horrible parody of a woman) and Rex had remained the Big Bad of the entire series with the sisters not finding out that their archenemy is Prue's boss until the finale - were he the Source rather than the Source's minion (a pure waste!) he'd make a better archenemy than either the Source or even Zankou just because he's smart and has that wonderfully evil power of being able to control minds. But that's probably why he had to be vanquished and never returned - he was *too* powerful...but I can wish.
EPISODE GRADES
1. Something Wicca This Way Comes - A
2. I've Got You Under My Skin - B
3. Thank You For Not Morphing - A-
4. Dead Man Dating - A+
5. Dream Sorcerer - C-
6. Wedding From Hell - C-
7. The Fourth Sister - A
8. The Truth is Out There and It Hurts - A
9. The Witch is Back - A+
10. Wicca Envy - A+
11. Feats of Clay - B-
12. The Wendigo - C-
13. From Fear to Eternity - A
14. Secrets and Guys - A+
15. Is There a Woogy in the House? - A
16. Which Prue Is It Anyway? - A
17. That Seventies Episode - A++
18. When Bad Warlocks Turn Good - A
19. Out of Sight - A-
20. The Power of Two - A
21. Love Hurts - A+
22. Deja vu All Over Again - A++
Season Overall Grade: A
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 0:45:39 GMT -5
I guess I don't have to say why that Season One is my favourite season. My own spin-off owns its existence to this season.
And unlike others, I don't subscribe to the 1950's black and white morality that Charmed time locked Rex and Hannah into. Of course, since they got so little character development on the show, I had a literal blank state to work with when I took R&H under my wings. Yes, it seems my audience is small, and most are found outside of Charmed fandom (as I have said, one had never even HEARD of Charmed, yet still enjoys my stories). However, that same audience is very loyal.
Anyway, I also like the sisters in Season One. Watching them, you have no idea of the selfish and horrible creatures they would become in the later seasons (well, at least Prue would be spared her character being butchered). Of course, this was when Constance Burge had full control and you could tell she truly cared about the characters.
I enjoyed Quake, the restaurant Piper worked at, and wished they'd kept it. She was a chef, she wanted her own restaurant, not a smegging night club!
If Charmed had been cancelled after Season One, I wouldn't have minded. Perhaps it would be better remembered like other short lived shows like My So Called Life and Freaks and Geeks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 20:30:52 GMT -5
I find myself enjoying Season One more everytime I watch it, as I think it is the season in which everything is more nuanced and so small things are allowed to breath and speak for themselves (i.e. the tenderness of the sisters' relationships; the feeling of being in very "real" danger whilst having to co-exist in the "normal" world; Prue's struggle with her own guarded, closed personality; Phoebe's longing for a sense of accomplishment and responsibility; Piper's hidden dry wit and need for stability).
I liked that the sisters felt as though they were muddling along, desperately clinging onto to each other for support and survival whilst almost rolling their eyes at the ridiculousness of the scenarios they were finding themselves in. Nothing felt too contrived or soap opera-esque, even though I did think the show's mythology got off on a shaky footing. That would be my main criticism of Season One - sometimes the concepts of the demonic foes weren't well executed and could come across either as cheesy or just dull.
Barbas was my favourite Baddie and I wish he'd been involved with Patty instead of Nicholas. Next after him were Rodriguez and Tempus. I liked their pairing and they felt to me to be a legitimate threat, especially their meddling in Andy's career. Unlike Rex and Hannah whose "infiltration" into Prue's life felt pointless at best and boring at worst. I couldn't understand where the writers were trying to take them - they seemed to oscillate between being pantomime-esque "deliciously evilness, dahhling, purr, Hannah, kitten" baddies to just a plain old boring pair of "bitchy co-workers" who couldn't seem able to devise a half decent plan to kill the Charmed Ones, which should've been so simple in those early days. Their short stint dragged and I was not sorry to see the back of them.
Similarly, Hecate, Queen of the Underworld and the Rowe Cowen were silly attempts at making memorable villains - especially for a first season. These felt very contrived and were so badly produced and executed that they are cringeworthy to watch.
I enjoyed individual baddies such as the Grimlocks, Jackson Ward, the Woogyman and Alec the Darklighter. I liked how the sisters powers progressed and how the subplots pulled them away from the monster-of-the-week and onto the "normal people" around them.
Deano's Season One Viewing Order:
1.01 Something Wicca This Way Comes
1.02 I've Got You Under My Skin
1.04 Dead Man Dating
1.07 The Fourth Sister
1.08 The Truth is Out There... And it Hurts
1.09 The Witch is Back
1.10 Wicca Envy
1.13 From Fear to Eternity
1.14 Secrets and Guys
1.15 Is There a Woogy in the House?
1.16 Which Prue Is It, Anyway?
1.17 That 70s Episode
1.19 Out of Sight
1.20 The Power of Two
1.21 Love Hurts
1.22 Deja Vu All Over Again
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Post by sol on Mar 2, 2016 16:15:21 GMT -5
I still remember the first time I saw Charmed on TV, my mom and I were alone, my dadr had brought his class on a field trip to Krakow,it was a random choice
I was immediately fascinated, that storm scared me as Piper, I was admired by Phoebe determination and then they were so common, pretty without excess, dressed without care, witty and quarrelsome: it was right away love
Other than the sisters, my favorite characters were Andy, Melinda and Patty
My favorite bad guys were Tempus, Nicholas and Rodriguez, Rex was too hunk and clerical to make me really scared
My best episodes:
Something Wicca This Way Comes
The Witch is Back
From Fear to Eternity
Is There a Woogy in the House?
That 70s Episode
Out of Sight
and the best, Deja Vu All Over Again
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Post by West on Mar 4, 2016 10:12:12 GMT -5
I love season 1, it is where it all starts. The show lost something after this season, the background score gets a makeover and the demon of the week/good vs. evil stories start changing, which from the favourite writer thread, I notice we lost alot of writers who were great at writing that.
I love Prue/Andy's story, it was so good and yes it was sad Andy died. How i wish he stayed over Leo, but at least he never got destroyed by Kern later.
I love the mystery in this season on the demons, gosh to think who the source really was by the time season 4 happened.
I love the Rex arc, he should of stayed as the main villain all season. Perhaps Hannah dies in Wicca Envy taking the fall, and Rex disappears and returns later in season 1. Heck making him the Source would of been far better.
The whole first season has a great run from start to finish, I enjoy all the episodes (okay some were bad) but the journey was fantastic. Last year I revisited season 1, and it brought back such fond memories and I loved how the sisters are here.
Piper/Leo has a great story-arc, if only it ended here. I was such a big fan of them back in the day, as I got older I Began to dislike them. My beloved Piper already begins her downward spiral to terrible beginning next season and way more from season 3 onwards.
Deja Vu All Over Again is my favourite season final, it just ended the season with a big bang.
I'd grade this season a 5/5.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 17:15:52 GMT -5
Just out of interest, was Rodriguez the first demon to ever use an energy ball on Charmed? Energy Balls were one of my favourite powers on the show because they seemed so distinctly Charmed, but they weren't really used much until Belthazor/Cole came onto the scene, right?
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Post by West on Mar 4, 2016 20:12:49 GMT -5
Just out of interest, was Rodriguez the first demon to ever use an energy ball on Charmed? Energy Balls were one of my favourite powers on the show because they seemed so distinctly Charmed, but they weren't really used much until Belthazor/Cole came onto the scene, right? Yes it was. I liked when it was rare, later seasons all demons used it. So it lost its appeal to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 11:41:59 GMT -5
Just out of interest, was Rodriguez the first demon to ever use an energy ball on Charmed? Energy Balls were one of my favourite powers on the show because they seemed so distinctly Charmed, but they weren't really used much until Belthazor/Cole came onto the scene, right? Yes it was. I liked when it was rare, later seasons all demons used it. So it lost its appeal to me. Yeah, I would have to agree. I liked it when Rodriguez used it, and then in Season 3 it almost became a weapon of the Brotherhood, which was cool. After that, it did become a bit generic, right? |
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Post by West on Mar 5, 2016 20:56:12 GMT -5
Yes it was. I liked when it was rare, later seasons all demons used it. So it lost its appeal to me. Yeah, I would have to agree. I liked it when Rodriguez used it, and then in Season 3 it almost became a weapon of the Brotherhood, which was cool. After that, it did become a bit generic, right? I so agree. I was hoping only upper level demons did it, but after season 4 it became a common demon power. All demons should of had a special power exclusive for them only. Make things more original. It just got old fast seeing all demons having fire or energy balls. Slightly off topic but I quite loved Rex's power in Wicca envy, it reminded me of Jessica Jones with kilgrave. That power is so awesome and it could of been great if they went further with it as a storyline. |
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Post by esperanzaa on Mar 5, 2016 22:59:52 GMT -5
Yes it was. I liked when it was rare, later seasons all demons used it. So it lost its appeal to me. Yeah, I would have to agree. I liked it when Rodriguez used it, and then in Season 3 it almost became a weapon of the Brotherhood, which was cool. After that, it did become a bit generic, right? Yes, mainly because the writers were too lazy to think of an adequate power for each demon who showed up. |
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Post by esperanzaa on Mar 5, 2016 23:06:25 GMT -5
I love season 1, it is where it all starts. The show lost something after this season, the background score gets a makeover and the demon of the week/good vs. evil stories start changing, which from the favourite writer thread, I notice we lost alot of writers who were great at writing that. I love Prue/Andy's story, it was so good and yes it was sad Andy died. How i wish he stayed over Leo, but at least he never got destroyed by Kern later. I love the mystery in this season on the demons, gosh to think who the source really was by the time season 4 happened. I love the Rex arc, he should of stayed as the main villain all season. Perhaps Hannah dies in Wicca Envy taking the fall, and Rex disappears and returns later in season 1. Heck making him the Source would of been far better. The whole first season has a great run from start to finish, I enjoy all the episodes (okay some were bad) but the journey was fantastic. Last year I revisited season 1, and it brought back such fond memories and I loved how the sisters are here. Piper/Leo has a great story-arc, if only it ended here. I was such a big fan of them back in the day, as I got older I Began to dislike them. My beloved Piper already begins her downward spiral to terrible beginning next season and way more from season 3 onwards. Deja Vu All Over Again is my favourite season final, it just ended the season with a big bang. I'd grade this season a 5/5. Your version of S1 sounds great! That would have been perfect if Rex hadn't been vanquished in Wicca Envy, but just Hannah, and Rex had been destroyed in the season finale. It was just weird that the strongest demon they faced in S1 got vanquished (thanks to Leo) in the middle of S1, when they were still new to their powers. It would have been way better, if the had saved the vanquish for the finale, when the sisters got stronger and could execute a plan by themselves without a Deus Ex machina. |
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Post by West on Mar 6, 2016 5:39:27 GMT -5
I love season 1, it is where it all starts. The show lost something after this season, the background score gets a makeover and the demon of the week/good vs. evil stories start changing, which from the favourite writer thread, I notice we lost alot of writers who were great at writing that. I love Prue/Andy's story, it was so good and yes it was sad Andy died. How i wish he stayed over Leo, but at least he never got destroyed by Kern later. I love the mystery in this season on the demons, gosh to think who the source really was by the time season 4 happened. I love the Rex arc, he should of stayed as the main villain all season. Perhaps Hannah dies in Wicca Envy taking the fall, and Rex disappears and returns later in season 1. Heck making him the Source would of been far better. The whole first season has a great run from start to finish, I enjoy all the episodes (okay some were bad) but the journey was fantastic. Last year I revisited season 1, and it brought back such fond memories and I loved how the sisters are here. Piper/Leo has a great story-arc, if only it ended here. I was such a big fan of them back in the day, as I got older I Began to dislike them. My beloved Piper already begins her downward spiral to terrible beginning next season and way more from season 3 onwards. Deja Vu All Over Again is my favourite season final, it just ended the season with a big bang. I'd grade this season a 5/5. Your version of S1 sounds great! That would have been perfect if Rex hadn't been vanquished in Wicca Envy, but just Hannah, and Rex had been destroyed in the season finale. It was just weird that the strongest demon they faced in S1 got vanquished (thanks to Leo) in the middle of S1, when they were still new to their powers. It would have been way better, if the had saved the vanquish for the finale, when the sisters got stronger and could execute a plan by themselves without a Deus Ex machina. Thank-you. I agree it would of been a great way to do it, instead of the wicca envy ending. I figured it was in the middle of season 1, because the show wasn't picked up for a full season, and they thought the series would be canceled, as Wicca Envy ended nicely for a season final complete with a door closing at the end. Exactly so, and it sucks. They really needed a better mythology expert with demons and witches. I'm guessing the one they made left after the first two seasons. Doesn't surprise me, considering they lost so many good writers by the time season 4 started. Some I was surprised left after season 1 and 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 12:48:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I would have to agree. I liked it when Rodriguez used it, and then in Season 3 it almost became a weapon of the Brotherhood, which was cool. After that, it did become a bit generic, right? I so agree. I was hoping only upper level demons did it, but after season 4 it became a common demon power. All demons should of had a special power exclusive for them only. Make things more original. It just got old fast seeing all demons having fire or energy balls. Slightly off topic but I quite loved Rex's power in Wicca envy, it reminded me of Jessica Jones with kilgrave. That power is so awesome and it could of been great if they went further with it as a storyline. Agreed. Rex's version of AP was the best to be seen on the show. |
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Post by West on Mar 6, 2016 23:35:43 GMT -5
I so agree. I was hoping only upper level demons did it, but after season 4 it became a common demon power. All demons should of had a special power exclusive for them only. Make things more original. It just got old fast seeing all demons having fire or energy balls. Slightly off topic but I quite loved Rex's power in Wicca envy, it reminded me of Jessica Jones with kilgrave. That power is so awesome and it could of been great if they went further with it as a storyline. Agreed. Rex's version of AP was the best to be seen on the show. It was, I loved it. It had so much potential than just one episode. They could of done way more alone with that power for a good storyline for many episodes. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Aug 10, 2016 18:43:28 GMT -5
I'm a little confused here. I am doing a re-watch and some of what I want to comment on does not fit in with Charmed Psych so I am looking for other threads to post. This looked right but now I am not so sure. I going to do it anyway.
Jeremy was a strange demon problem. He was working for the Chronical, for how long we do not know. He is suppose to be on a story at the hospital where he runs into Piper. Okay, so that could be a set up. He romances her and from what I just read elsewhere, at least one other witch, the girl we see get killed. He wants the witches powers, but he seems to have inside information. He says to Piper when he attacks her that he was waiting for grams to cork off and the three of them came together to receive their powers. (That is not really correct as they had all used their powers when young even if Phoebe just did so from the womb. Okay, he's smart but not a genius.) So Phoebe returns and Piper says something odd to him in the cab about strange things happening and he strikes. Fine, so do we have a very well informed demon here that knows about the power of three and that only when grams dies will their powers be available. Wouldn't that mean he must have done some homework? Or did he think with them just getting used to who they were they would be easy picking? To me Jeremy was nobody. Yes, I know he shows up again but I am not there yet. Following the Big Bang Theory. I see him as a "Needy baby, Greedy baby" demon. I want witches powers and I will collect them at any cost. I will be the first semi-big bad to attack The Charmed Ones, regardless if I have done my homework or not. All said with tongue in cheek. LOL
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Post by BookShelfy91 on Aug 28, 2016 1:36:35 GMT -5
Jeremy is more explained in the later episodes. He began dating Piper pretty far back waiting for Grams to die and for them to come into their powers, so he clearly had inside knowledge from somewhere. He doesn't appear to be working for anyone though. Being as the Source wasn't even introduced as a teaser until Rex and Hannah, maybe he was just in it for himself.
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Post by Elle Em on Aug 28, 2016 6:48:32 GMT -5
To me, it seemed like there was a demonic hierarchy in the underworld that began at less powerful demons and went up to the Source, and then there were more human-like evil beings that had nothing to do with that. For instance, despite what Jeremy could physically turn into, I can only see him as living among humans and blending in with them. Yet other evil beings give the impression that they've hardly left the underworld. I like the idea that some evil comes from another realm entirely, and some exists right alongside them. It gives the sisters more of a challenge when having to fight.
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 4, 2016 19:19:10 GMT -5
Jeremy is more explained in the later episodes. He began dating Piper pretty far back waiting for Grams to die and for them to come into their powers, so he clearly had inside knowledge from somewhere. He doesn't appear to be working for anyone though. Being as the Source wasn't even introduced as a teaser until Rex and Hannah, maybe he was just in it for himself. Shelfy You know, I totally agree. Jeremy was in it for him and only him. What ..... he was scouting witches to gain powers? Someone should have told him that absolute power, corrupts absolutely. He surly could not have been savvy to what he was going up against when he attacked The Charmed Ones. Even upper level bad guys had to debate their actions towards the powerful three. This was a foolish demonic entity that tracked but didn't plan. Even his real world profession screamed power and a desire to be in the thick of things. Lets face it, a lot of reporters are not well loved. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 4, 2016 19:32:49 GMT -5
To me, it seemed like there was a demonic hierarchy in the underworld that began at less powerful demons and went up to the Source, and then there were more human-like evil beings that had nothing to do with that. For instance, despite what Jeremy could physically turn into, I can only see him as living among humans and blending in with them. Yet other evil beings give the impression that they've hardly left the underworld. I like the idea that some evil comes from another realm entirely, and some exists right alongside them. It gives the sisters more of a challenge when having to fight. I like this. It reminds me of the pyramidical power that we humans have to put up with regardless if we like it or not. I take some pleasure that the under-world and if you think about the supreme ones have to deal with the same annoying ladder of life that is foisted upon us. Good!! |
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