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Post by West on Jun 22, 2016 5:51:21 GMT -5
Which season do you think is underrated and deserves more appreciation among the charmed fanbase?
Edit: I decided to give two choices as for some it might be hard to vote one season as underrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 6:51:51 GMT -5
Season 2 for me.
Everybody loves the beginning, Season 1. Season 3 is Shannen's last season and the 4th is Rose's first.
Season 5 I guess I feel that this forum doesn't really acknowledge Cole to the recognition I think he deserves. But there are many fans (I feel) on this board that believe that Phoebe/Cole and that storyline/including Season 4th ending arc were responsible for the shows decline and the inevitable deterioration of Phoebe's character. Which is in some ways true but I didn't really mind Cole and thought Julian McMahon played him better than what Kern had expected. I hate how the sister's turned their backs on him when he returned in Season 5. That was their fault as much as his.
Season 6 Definitely doesn't. I didn't mind Chris but I wish every copy of Season 6 was destroyed. It's absolute garbage. I HATE all of the sisters and watch because of the Fashion, the Boobies, and the seriously cool special effects.
Season 7 A lot happens in this Season. I somewhat like it. In some way's it's my 5th favourite Season tied with Season 5.
What's better Season 5 or 7 ?
I liked the beginning of Season 5 from Siren Song, Witch's in Tights, Sam I Am, Centennial Charmed,
-I feel like House Call should have been the series premier. -Both Sand Francisco Dreaming remind me of Season 4's Enter the Demon and Size Matters a little. -The Day the Magic Died is an overrated episode and I hate how Wyatt is a boy. -Cat House is cool Sense and Sensibility is almost like Season 2's Chick Flick or Season 3's Sin Francisco -And Necromancing the Stone is entertaining.
So if you kept these episodes, ended at Necromancing and started back up at: -Someone to Witchover, Charmed Noir, There's Something About Leo, Witness Protection, Ordinary Witches, (Extreme Makoever and Charmageddon are optional), Carpe Demon, Show Ghouls, 7 Year Witch, Scry Hard, (Horrors and Freaky Phoebe optional), Imaginary Friends, Death Becomes Them and Something Wicca This Way Goes...
The we get the best out of Season 5 - 8. Would you do the same? and exclude Season's 6 and 8 and use SWTWGoes as the finale?
Season 8 Somewhat entertaining. I liked seeing Mom, Grams and Victor in Forever Charmed and getting Leo back. I liked Paige the most out of the whole series. Wyatt and Chris seem to grow on me by this point but their nagging Mother, Selfish Aunt and new babysitter annoy the f**k out of me - and so goes Christie.
My Season Ratings: Season 1: 9/10 Season 2 8.5/10 Season 3: 10/10 Season 4: 8/10 Season 5: 6/10 Season 6: 2.5/10 Season 7: 5/10 Season 8: 3/10
Ok - blab over. -Would like to discuss more of Seasons 5 and 7. None of 6 and 8. Like hearing about the early days and I am a fan fave of Season 4.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 12:41:52 GMT -5
Seasons 2 and 7. Season 7 especially as, in my opinion, it is much better than the more frequently praised Season 6.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 13:38:23 GMT -5
Seasons 1 and 2. They often get overshadowed by Seasons 3 and 4 and the Cole/Source era, but I honestly prefer them. I liked the show better when it was about the Power of Three and protecting innocents than their boyfriends and hunting demons. Plus, I think this show did better with the Demon of the Week format than it did with major story arcs, which it frequently botched with bad writing and disregard for continuity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 17:43:25 GMT -5
Seasons 1 and 2 for me. This was Charmed at its best, before Kern seized power.
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Post by Sadrick on Jun 22, 2016 19:24:06 GMT -5
Season 2. Great standalones mixed together with a more experienced witchly sisterhood but with the element of newness and exploration still there. I actually consider it to be my all time favourite season of the show.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jun 24, 2016 7:00:59 GMT -5
For me S4 and S6. S4 with more background of Paige, all would have been better and as for S6, more info of Chris and a bit more future Wyatt, all could have been better as well. And not so much discussion these days!
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jun 25, 2016 19:38:50 GMT -5
S6 needed a full arc of episodes like CC. One was not enough.
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Post by Chris on Jun 26, 2016 1:53:55 GMT -5
S6 needed a full arc of episodes like CC. One was not enough. I wanted more flashbacks of Bianca and Chris... it wasn't fair that they introduced her to us and then killed her future self off like that.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jun 26, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5
At the very least, they needed to explore the Phoenix. Maybe learned more after CC and tried to keep an eye out on Bianca. Come on, Piper. Your future son is engaged to this woman, who is helping your other son take over. KEEP AN EYE OUT! Hello!
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Post by West on Jun 27, 2016 1:41:32 GMT -5
At the very least, they needed to explore the Phoenix. Maybe learned more after CC and tried to keep an eye out on Bianca. Come on, Piper. Your future son is engaged to this woman, who is helping your other son take over. KEEP AN EYE OUT! Hello! Maybe the 2-part final should of explored deeper flashbacks on Chris' future instead of the bad world counterparts. We never got any Phoenix story ever again. That needed more than 1 episode.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 1:56:43 GMT -5
At the very least, they needed to explore the Phoenix. Maybe learned more after CC and tried to keep an eye out on Bianca. Come on, Piper. Your future son is engaged to this woman, who is helping your other son take over. KEEP AN EYE OUT! Hello! Maybe the 2-part final should of explored deeper flashbacks on Chris' future instead of the bad world counterparts. We never got any Phoenix story ever again. That needed more than 1 episode. I agree. I think that the premier should have been a future flash forward too. It would have been great it Witchstock was somehow connected to Chris's future as that was the return from winter break episode. But definately, A Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad (Episode) World should have been about Chris' restored future. How could the writers have got it so wrong?
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jun 27, 2016 1:59:39 GMT -5
God knows, I have no idea how we went from Chris Crossed to Witchstock. There is no connection/continuity there.
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Post by erikamarie on Jun 27, 2016 2:39:31 GMT -5
At the very least, they needed to explore the Phoenix. Maybe learned more after CC and tried to keep an eye out on Bianca. Come on, Piper. Your future son is engaged to this woman, who is helping your other son take over. KEEP AN EYE OUT! Hello! After the emotions brought on Chris Crossed I hoped that the next episode would give room for investigations into the Phoenix Witches Although Piper didn't suspect that Chris was her son, a little curiosity about it would be normal I think season six is underratedd: it is a moment of calm in the sisters's lives, the great enemies have been defeated, the innocent are safe, few bad things happen, it'ld be a time of peace and serenity for them, if the fear of the future wasn0t so worrisome
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Post by West on Jun 27, 2016 2:55:44 GMT -5
Maybe the 2-part final should of explored deeper flashbacks on Chris' future instead of the bad world counterparts. We never got any Phoenix story ever again. That needed more than 1 episode. I agree. I think that the premier should have been a future flash forward too. It would have been great it Witchstock was somehow connected to Chris's future as that was the return from winter break episode. But definately, A Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad (Episode) World should have been about Chris' restored future. How could the writers have got it so wrong? Very good points. Season 6 opens with Bianca in a future flashforward then revealing Wyatt in the future. A great setup for season 6 moving forward. I quite like shows opening a season in a unfamiliar setting. Way better than Valhallas boring opening teaser with celebrity Phoebe. Then viewers have that future on their minds until Chris Crossed. Then close the season with a 2-parter going deeper in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 6:10:26 GMT -5
Looking back, while I'm still not sure if I would've voted for Season 6, it sometimes feels like the season's positives aren't appreciated enough.
Yes, the sisters were horribly written, and there was a ton of filler trash like "Witchstock" and "Used Karma." The season also foisted Not!warts onto the show.
But, this season also brought Chris into the the show, and while his story was poorly handled, it was still a great idea with a ton of potential, enough to inspire a large number of fans into starting a spinoff campaign. Many forget that Season 6 was the only season past Season 3 that actually brought viewers into the show. There's A LOT of people who first got into Charmed because of Chris, as well as got back into the show after losing interest in Seasons 4 and 5.
Several people here have wished that Season 6 never existed, and while they have a right to that opinion, think of all the people who would literally not be here if Season 6 never happened. Or, all of the people you would literally not know. If you ever supported the TCS campaign and were a member of the TCS board, you owe at least a part of your Charmed fandom to Season 6.
It's a shame that Season 6 had too many episodes like "Witchstock" and not nearly enough like "Chris-Crossed," and it's also a shame that Chris' story was never properly planned out and was constantly getting shoved aside for boring nonsense like the sisters' love lives. But, even with all of those flaws, the season still brought a large number of fans together and managed to inspire a lot of good things from the fandom, which is far more than you can say for the likes of Seasons 5 and 8.
You could erase Seasons 5 and 8 from existence and not much would be missed, but there's just no way you can do the same with Season 6. The season had way too much of an impact on the fandom, and it's sad that more fans don't appreciate that.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jun 27, 2016 9:34:07 GMT -5
I totally agree with you, Betty. S6 was my returning back to Charmed and since I was onto mystery at this time, the character Chris showed a lot of potential in that direction. Needless to say that I was disappointed how his character was developed in S6 and the following seasons. I'd have expected more. Definitely!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 10:27:07 GMT -5
As I have said, like him or hate him, Chris saved Season Six. It was his story that the fans kept coming back to see.
Remove Chris and the season would have been a complete and total failure and might have resulted in the show being cancelled.
Does anyone really think that the fans wanted to see more of Phoebe's beefcakes, or see her become a second rate Deanna Troi? Does anything think that the fans wanted to see more of Piper moaning about not having a normal life, or hear her increasingly shrill voice as she berates poor Leo for everything under the sun? Does anyone think that the fans wanted to see a once college educated Paige devolve more and more into a ditzy valley girl, who forgot she could orbs things?
Rubbish.
It was Chris that the fans wanted to see in Season Six? Who was he? Where did he come from? Why did he come and what was his game plan? That was what drove Seasons Six and gave it the high ratings it enjoyed. Season Six was Chris's season, period.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 11:10:34 GMT -5
I totally agree with you, Betty. S6 was my returning back to Charmed and since I was onto mystery at this time, the character Chris showed a lot of potential in that direction. Needless to say that I was disappointed how his character was developed in S6 and the following seasons. I'd have expected more. Definitely! As I said, Season 6 was the lone season after Season 3 that actually saw the show's ratings increase, with "Chris-Crossed" being the first non-premiere episode to bring in 6 million viewers since "Primrose Empath." There's no question that Chris generated the most interest and enthusiasm for the show since Season 3, and he could've easily pulled the show out of the rut it had fallen into after Shannen's firing. As much as people here praise Season 4 and Season 7 as the only "good" Paige seasons, did either of those seasons inspire a movement within the fandom? Did we see people campaigning for a Cole or Avatar spinoff? People are allowed to think what they want, but to wish that Season 6 never happened is to essentially wish that a fairly large chunk of Charmed fans had never been a part of the fandom, which is terribly wrong. As much as I want to see a Charmed that lacks "Witchstock" and Not!warts, no way if it comes at the expense of TCS and the great community I came to know because of it. As I have said, like him or hate him, Chris saved Season Six. It was his story that the fans kept coming back to see. Remove Chris and the season would have been a complete and total failure and might have resulted in the show being cancelled. Does anyone really think that the fans wanted to see more of Phoebe's beefcakes, or see her become a second rate Deanna Troi? Does anything think that the fans wanted to see more of Piper moaning about not having a normal life, or hear her increasingly shrill voice as she berates poor Leo for everything under the sun? Does anyone think that the fans wanted to see a once college educated Paige devolve more and more into a ditzy valley girl, who forgot she could orbs things? Rubbish. It was Chris that the fans wanted to see in Season Six? Who was he? Where did he come from? Why did he come and what was his game plan? That was what drove Seasons Six and gave it the high ratings it enjoyed. Season Six was Chris's season, period. It might've been one great idea among a bunch of crap, but said idea just happened to be the best one the show had come up with in years. Way too many people want to focus on the crap and throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 17:18:58 GMT -5
That's why they should have kept him. Jana's AU series shows just how Chris's story could have continued into the final two seasons.
Not that I know of. Of course, I could see people wanting a Cole spin-off, a la Angel. However, a huge campaign was never built around a Cole spin off like there was with TCS.
Indeed, Betty, that is where you and I met for the first time. I also met Jana and Storygirl there as well.
Yeah, they do. If we could only keep Chris and lose rubbish like Witchstock...
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