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Post by Polarity on Feb 1, 2017 17:46:00 GMT -5
They could've brought Sheila more into the picture somehow, making her Darryl's soundboard, so to speak. I think it is why he was suspicious of them, having grown up with them. Remember one of the sisters even said something about it, in That 70's episode, when little Piper freezes little Andy so he can't follow them. "Maybe that's why Andy's so suspicious of us." Although, having typed that out, I remember their Grandmother unfreezing him and saying, "You won't remember a thing." Though we don't know if somehow, someway, he remembered, like a dream that you just can't recall, but it's right on the tip of your thoughts or something. I also wish Andy had found out sooner, too! Ruth Marie, you make a valid point! I never thought about that! Come to think of it, I enjoyed seeing more of the Charmed life, and wished some mystery had remained. Though it may have driven me nuts if I had never found out..lol..plus, one of my favorite episodes is Blinded by the Whitelighter, and that deals with witches and Whitelighters. Though I am glad Brian Krause came back, it would have been interesting to know what they would've done if he hadn't. Would Piper have had kids? What would their powers be? So much to wonder! Bringing in Sheila earlier might have been good. Yeah it wouldn't surprise me at all if Andy did feel something like that. Exactly, so many different paths the show could have taken. I actually liked Natalie in Blinded by the Whitelighter and wished Leo had stayed gone for a couple of episodes than back in the episode after. Just them being assigned a new whitelighter for 2 episodes, than giving back Leo an episode after he was taken away in Magic Hour. Kinda killed the shock of the situation for me. I can see what you mean, sometimes it would drive you crazy not knowing. But I guess if we never knew, and were left wondering. What we thought they really were and looked like, wouldn't be anything like what we ended up seeing. But yes, What ifs can be so much fun to think about. Yes, Ruth, please quit apologizing for stating your opinion. Threads get very short when everyone agrees. This board works at its best when people can disagree about their opinions while still remaining on good terms with fellow members. Those who can't do that don't stick around for long. So as long as you allow others their opinions (which you do), feel absolutely safe in stating your opinion. Thank you for understanding and this place is so much fun. I don't want to suffer the same fate I did at some forums where I felt like I needed to defend everything I said and do, and so glad this place is so good. Having been online and explored different communities, each one is so different from the other., and if you have heard of fan forum, you will understand. That place is much as you said yourself where people just agree and threads can get short, or rather everyone agrees. I always felt like one who had to agree and it got so boring.
Now I can move on.  Sheila could have had an episode all to herself or something. I wonder if they ever thought about that. They did that for other secondary characters. At first I didn't like Natalie, but I grew to admire her and understand her better as the episode went on. I do think it was like Leo said, that she was just trying to protect the sisters. I see what you mean about them giving Leo back so soon. I always liked that, but now that you said what you said, I see how that could spoil the situation for you. It was kind of quick! I do like wondering "what if?" There are so many things about Charmed that you can do that to. (I agree...this place is fun! Everybody's nice, and you can have different views with someone, and they are still able to understand why you think so, or what you mean, etc.. That is a good thing to have on a message board!) |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 6, 2017 16:23:01 GMT -5
Greetings, it's been a spell since I have stopped by for a snack, but my computer wouldn't let me order from the menu. I am dropping in here as it is going to take a bit for me to get up to speed and I still have strong feelings about the relationship between Prue and Andy and his too early departure.
I think Prue handled it wrong with how she told Andy, but I don't have an issue with her delaying it. We must remember that she was new to her powers returning that were shut down in childhood. I would guess that the memory of said powers was also erased. Dealing with Grams death, Phoebe's return, money problems and the stress of her job would be a lot to have on one's plate. Now throw the totally unbelievable into the mix along with the fact that Andy is a cop crossing paths with both the regular criminals and unexpected magical fraction and you have a ten course meal that would fill the plates of a small country. I think maybe we are asking too much of one young inexperienced witch.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 6, 2017 19:46:38 GMT -5
Greetings, it's been a spell since I have stopped by for a snack, but my computer wouldn't let me order from the menu. I am dropping in here as it is going to take a bit for me to get up to speed and I still have strong feelings about the relationship between Prue and Andy and his too early departure. I think Prue handled it wrong with how she told Andy, but I don't have an issue with her delaying it. We must remember that she was new to her powers returning that were shut down in childhood. I would guess that the memory of said powers was also erased. Dealing with Grams death, Phoebe's return, money problems and the stress of her job would be a lot to have on one's plate. Now throw the totally unbelievable into the mix along with the fact that Andy is a cop crossing paths with both the regular criminals and unexpected magical fraction and you have a ten course meal that would fill the plates of a small country. I think maybe we are asking too much of one young inexperienced witch. So great to see you back dear. WELCOME BACK! I would love to see you submit a short story on all your thoughts on Andy in our contest, if he didn't die. But, no pressure dear and not forcing you. Again you have such strong feelings on this, I just know you would have so many idea's. I can see where you are coming from dear, especially with Prue being a new witch. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 6, 2017 19:49:36 GMT -5
Greetings, it's been a spell since I have stopped by for a snack, but my computer wouldn't let me order from the menu. I am dropping in here as it is going to take a bit for me to get up to speed and I still have strong feelings about the relationship between Prue and Andy and his too early departure. I think Prue handled it wrong with how she told Andy, but I don't have an issue with her delaying it. We must remember that she was new to her powers returning that were shut down in childhood. I would guess that the memory of said powers was also erased. Dealing with Grams death, Phoebe's return, money problems and the stress of her job would be a lot to have on one's plate. Now throw the totally unbelievable into the mix along with the fact that Andy is a cop crossing paths with both the regular criminals and unexpected magical fraction and you have a ten course meal that would fill the plates of a small country. I think maybe we are asking too much of one young inexperienced witch. Wow, SC, a completely different way of looking at this, but I must admit I agree with you. With the wonderful way you write and your ideas, I REALLY hope you decide to enter the Andy Fanfic contest! I wish I could...but working at a wholesale florist, these weeks before Valentine's Day are CRAZY and then we have a show at work, not to mention my Gopher baseball season will get going. Between all of that, I won't have a lot of time to work on this, but for those who do, I hope you do! |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 7, 2017 1:10:49 GMT -5
Thank you Es and GC for your comments. I have spoken a lot on this topic but I can't recall if I ever moved in this direction before. I sometimes pass over all of the drama the girls had to deal with the first year failing to take into consideration that they were really baby witches. Perhaps I forgot that though they were born into this, they were not fully raised in the ways of magic. What little was in their lives was deleted for their own safety. I think that short changed them, but that's for another thread.
We can add another shock here, that being they were not ordinary witches. As far as we know there were no others like them anywhere. What was bestowed upon them was not a gift but a dangerous job they had no training for and in a way, couldn't reject.
Prue being the first born, the one with the most responsibilities and given a major power must have been overwhelmed. Then who turns up .... Andy. Whom I suspect was her first love. Lets face it, that's the one you never forget. I would think she must have been very conflicted. Some of us might have considered consulting a shrink, but if she mentioned being a witch they would have put her on drugs and sent her to the loony bin.
In the beginning she really didn't seem to want to take their relationship to the next level. That makes sense to me, but her heart was in charge of this and her better judgement lost the battle. Once that happened all bets were off.
I can say that I have made more mistakes in my life than I would like to confess to, but when it came to those I made in matters of the heart .... there were times when I felt like I wasn't thinking clearly. Now if I had to add to my plate the witch factor along with love, life and obligations .... I would hope my power wasn't one where I could blow things up.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 7, 2017 7:27:07 GMT -5
Bringing in Sheila earlier might have been good. Yeah it wouldn't surprise me at all if Andy did feel something like that. Exactly, so many different paths the show could have taken. I actually liked Natalie in Blinded by the Whitelighter and wished Leo had stayed gone for a couple of episodes than back in the episode after. Just them being assigned a new whitelighter for 2 episodes, than giving back Leo an episode after he was taken away in Magic Hour. Kinda killed the shock of the situation for me. I can see what you mean, sometimes it would drive you crazy not knowing. But I guess if we never knew, and were left wondering. What we thought they really were and looked like, wouldn't be anything like what we ended up seeing. But yes, What ifs can be so much fun to think about. Thank you for understanding and this place is so much fun. I don't want to suffer the same fate I did at some forums where I felt like I needed to defend everything I said and do, and so glad this place is so good. Having been online and explored different communities, each one is so different from the other., and if you have heard of fan forum, you will understand. That place is much as you said yourself where people just agree and threads can get short, or rather everyone agrees. I always felt like one who had to agree and it got so boring.
Now I can move on. Sheila could have had an episode all to herself or something. I wonder if they ever thought about that. They did that for other secondary characters. At first I didn't like Natalie, but I grew to admire her and understand her better as the episode went on. I do think it was like Leo said, that she was just trying to protect the sisters. I see what you mean about them giving Leo back so soon. I always liked that, but now that you said what you said, I see how that could spoil the situation for you. It was kind of quick! I do like wondering "what if?" There are so many things about Charmed that you can do that to. (I agree...this place is fun! Everybody's nice, and you can have different views with someone, and they are still able to understand why you think so, or what you mean, etc.. That is a good thing to have on a message board!) What if's for Charmed always make places like this so much fun. I always enjoy reading those sort of stories. Greetings, it's been a spell since I have stopped by for a snack, but my computer wouldn't let me order from the menu. I am dropping in here as it is going to take a bit for me to get up to speed and I still have strong feelings about the relationship between Prue and Andy and his too early departure. I think Prue handled it wrong with how she told Andy, but I don't have an issue with her delaying it. We must remember that she was new to her powers returning that were shut down in childhood. I would guess that the memory of said powers was also erased. Dealing with Grams death, Phoebe's return, money problems and the stress of her job would be a lot to have on one's plate. Now throw the totally unbelievable into the mix along with the fact that Andy is a cop crossing paths with both the regular criminals and unexpected magical fraction and you have a ten course meal that would fill the plates of a small country. I think maybe we are asking too much of one young inexperienced witch. I like your point of view. You have a strong case, and I can see what you mean totally. Had Grams raised them and told them about their destiny, but not unbound their powers until they were truly ready. Well things might have turned out differently, but you are right with how Prue handled herself under the circumstances, which had she been told earlier about her powers and destiny. Prue would of reacted differently no doubt. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 7, 2017 8:23:43 GMT -5
Sheila could have had an episode all to herself or something. I wonder if they ever thought about that. They did that for other secondary characters. At first I didn't like Natalie, but I grew to admire her and understand her better as the episode went on. I do think it was like Leo said, that she was just trying to protect the sisters. I see what you mean about them giving Leo back so soon. I always liked that, but now that you said what you said, I see how that could spoil the situation for you. It was kind of quick! I do like wondering "what if?" There are so many things about Charmed that you can do that to. (I agree...this place is fun! Everybody's nice, and you can have different views with someone, and they are still able to understand why you think so, or what you mean, etc.. That is a good thing to have on a message board!) What if's for Charmed always make places like this so much fun. I always enjoy reading those sort of stories. Greetings, it's been a spell since I have stopped by for a snack, but my computer wouldn't let me order from the menu. I am dropping in here as it is going to take a bit for me to get up to speed and I still have strong feelings about the relationship between Prue and Andy and his too early departure. I think Prue handled it wrong with how she told Andy, but I don't have an issue with her delaying it. We must remember that she was new to her powers returning that were shut down in childhood. I would guess that the memory of said powers was also erased. Dealing with Grams death, Phoebe's return, money problems and the stress of her job would be a lot to have on one's plate. Now throw the totally unbelievable into the mix along with the fact that Andy is a cop crossing paths with both the regular criminals and unexpected magical fraction and you have a ten course meal that would fill the plates of a small country. I think maybe we are asking too much of one young inexperienced witch. I like your point of view. You have a strong case, and I can see what you mean totally. Had Grams raised them and told them about their destiny, but not unbound their powers until they were truly ready. Well things might have turned out differently, but you are right with how Prue handled herself under the circumstances, which had she been told earlier about her powers and destiny. Prue would of reacted differently no doubt. I can now admit, exactly so. Perhaps if Andy had come back into her life at the time that Cole came into Phoebe's (and neither Cole or the Source did so there wouldn't have been as much danger), their love story might have been more similar to Paige's and Henry's. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 7, 2017 15:30:18 GMT -5
Greetings Ruth Marie ... I gather you joined the site while I was on a leave of absents, so welcome to The Cafe. It's always a joy when new members come on-board, and speaks volumes for how beloved the show was considering it has been off the air for a decade. Shall we say the program has power?
I appreciated your following comment, as many of us have tossed this one around.
"I like your point of view. You have a strong case, and I can see what you mean totally. Had Grams raised them and told them about their destiny, but not unbound their powers until they were truly ready. Well things might have turned out differently, but you are right with how Prue handled herself under the circumstances, which had she been told earlier about her powers and destiny. Prue would of reacted differently no doubt."
Don't get me wrong as I adored Grams and wished she was part of my life. I also think she was wise for making the decision to bind the girls powers. I think there was no other option there, but to totally ignore the teaching of the craft, especially when the girls would sooner or later receive them was a mistake. I recall there was an episode where she mentions that she knew when she passed the power of three would be bestowed upon them. Therefore she was not ignorant of the future they would face. With that knowledge she should have had enough hind-sight to realize that school should have been in secession. Location ... The Attic.
Experimental potions 101, intro lectures on general and family Wiccan history along with memorizing and understanding spell casting would have given them a heads up on things to come. I somehow doubt that these courses would have alerted the dark forces to the girls destiny. After all, anyone of us could do that and we are not Charmed. That being said I have to wonder if Grams misstep might have come about do to her lack of what being Charmed was truly all about.
When the girls took a trip back to the past and Phoebe was in the womb, neither Patty or Penny were thinking along the lines of the prophecy coming about in their time period. Both of them appeared to be surprised but delighted. This I think tells us that they were not very well schooled themselves. Considering that this had never happened before how could they be? Since Penny bound their powers directly after Phoebe's birth she had scant time to do much research. I would think all she was concerned about was protecting them. This I think explains some of her actions, but doesn't totally excuse it.
She could have pondered this dilemma while they were still children, but like Prue reconnecting with Andy, lets see what was on her plate.
Grams was a widow who lost her only child to a demon. She is now faced in her advancing years with the up-brings of three little girls. What she was using as income to run a home and care for them I have no idea. Victor was out of the picture so he was of no help. I don't recall any other family members she could have leaned on. She did have at least three friends that were privy to this situation, but they had lives to live too. For the most part she seems to be alone or maybe unwilling to share all the pitfalls she might dread facing. I know that would be a lot on my plate.
With the chats I have just been having I feel like a bucked of cold water has just been dumped on my head. For all we think they did wrong or handled badly, this is the first time I have put myself in their shoes. I look at what I am dealing with right now and have to ponder ... how would I respond (at any age)to discovering that I am not only a witch by decent, but have to come to terms with being ..... CHARMED?
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 7, 2017 15:47:19 GMT -5
Oh Es your comment opened a door that I never entertained existed. It might have been better if Andy was introduced in season two. This would have given Prue stronger footing on her life and how to juggle magic and the world of reality she was accustomed to. I also ponder if it would have been a better avenue of approach it she learned that he was working as an SF inspector on the QT and had time to digest his return before they came face to face.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 7, 2017 19:03:57 GMT -5
That would've made a lot more sense - let Piper and Leo have the limelight in Season One when they were new and needed a guide; Andy in Season Two after they'd gotten more used to it; Cole to give them perspective in Season Three - the angel, the human and the demon. Yeah, a lot better way of keeping the spotlight on the sisters.
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Post by sol on Feb 8, 2017 1:57:27 GMT -5
Or,over time, they were born trio of sisters who had been good, but simple witches, there was no guarantee that just Prue, Piper and Phoebe were the Charmed One
I often try to look at things from their point of view: you are alone, you lived the worst thing that can happen to a mother, losing your child, I believe that the quandary if your granddaughter would be happier without their powers is rightful and humane
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 8, 2017 15:52:56 GMT -5
Sorry sol, but I can't seem to make the quote button work.
I completely agree with you that even if Patty did have three daughters they might not be the Charmed Ones, but since it was predicted for their blood line and as has been said, Halliwell's have female children not boys, I would think even if all was running smoothly with no visible threats of danger ... once Patty realized she was pregnant a third time they might have pondered the idea that this might be the ticket. I have to wonder how this would have gone down had the girl's not gone back in time.
I am starting to think maybe this needs a thread of it's own, but I don't know where to move this as there might be one out there. Perhaps Assassin Witch could juggle this topic as there might be much more to chat about.
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 8, 2017 16:04:23 GMT -5
Hello Es. As stated my quote button hates me but I had to tell you that I like the flow chart you mentioned. If just makes so much more sense, but of course hind-sight is 20/20. Maybe the powers that be were unsure how long the show would last and were trying to keep it busy in order to interest viewers. No, I am not defending Kern, just trying to be realistic. On the other hand this was a Spelling production and generally from him we could usually count on a show running at least 3 seasons. Oh well, if not for all the changes we the fans think the show should have run with we might not all be chatting right now. In a way their sloppiness is our power.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 9, 2017 6:19:32 GMT -5
Thank you Es and GC for your comments. I have spoken a lot on this topic but I can't recall if I ever moved in this direction before. I sometimes pass over all of the drama the girls had to deal with the first year failing to take into consideration that they were really baby witches. Perhaps I forgot that though they were born into this, they were not fully raised in the ways of magic. What little was in their lives was deleted for their own safety. I think that short changed them, but that's for another thread. We can add another shock here, that being they were not ordinary witches. As far as we know there were no others like them anywhere. What was bestowed upon them was not a gift but a dangerous job they had no training for and in a way, couldn't reject. Prue being the first born, the one with the most responsibilities and given a major power must have been overwhelmed. Then who turns up .... Andy. Whom I suspect was her first love. Lets face it, that's the one you never forget. I would think she must have been very conflicted. Some of us might have considered consulting a shrink, but if she mentioned being a witch they would have put her on drugs and sent her to the loony bin. In the beginning she really didn't seem to want to take their relationship to the next level. That makes sense to me, but her heart was in charge of this and her better judgement lost the battle. Once that happened all bets were off. I can say that I have made more mistakes in my life than I would like to confess to, but when it came to those I made in matters of the heart .... there were times when I felt like I wasn't thinking clearly. Now if I had to add to my plate the witch factor along with love, life and obligations .... I would hope my power wasn't one where I could blow things up. I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. Oh Es your comment opened a door that I never entertained existed. It might have been better if Andy was introduced in season two. This would have given Prue stronger footing on her life and how to juggle magic and the world of reality she was accustomed to. I also ponder if it would have been a better avenue of approach it she learned that he was working as an SF inspector on the QT and had time to digest his return before they came face to face. That would've made a lot more sense - let Piper and Leo have the limelight in Season One when they were new and needed a guide; Andy in Season Two after they'd gotten more used to it; Cole to give them perspective in Season Three - the angel, the human and the demon. Yeah, a lot better way of keeping the spotlight on the sisters. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 9, 2017 6:22:48 GMT -5
Hello Es. As stated my quote button hates me but I had to tell you that I like the flow chart you mentioned. If just makes so much more sense, but of course hind-sight is 20/20. Maybe the powers that be were unsure how long the show would last and were trying to keep it busy in order to interest viewers. No, I am not defending Kern, just trying to be realistic. On the other hand this was a Spelling production and generally from him we could usually count on a show running at least 3 seasons. Oh well, if not for all the changes we the fans think the show should have run with we might not all be chatting right now. In a way their sloppiness is our power. This is exactly right dear, especially since season 4 rushed into the Cole storyarc quickly, assuming it didn't make it past season 4 after Prue was killed off. But that's what makes these forums so much fun, wondering and playing around with ideas. I have to admit, I am *glad* the show wasn't so perfect. Because if it was, we wouldn't be able to generate all these wonderful discussions like this and read and write all the amazing fanfic stories. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 9, 2017 8:43:10 GMT -5
Thank you Es and GC for your comments. I have spoken a lot on this topic but I can't recall if I ever moved in this direction before. I sometimes pass over all of the drama the girls had to deal with the first year failing to take into consideration that they were really baby witches. Perhaps I forgot that though they were born into this, they were not fully raised in the ways of magic. What little was in their lives was deleted for their own safety. I think that short changed them, but that's for another thread. We can add another shock here, that being they were not ordinary witches. As far as we know there were no others like them anywhere. What was bestowed upon them was not a gift but a dangerous job they had no training for and in a way, couldn't reject. Prue being the first born, the one with the most responsibilities and given a major power must have been overwhelmed. Then who turns up .... Andy. Whom I suspect was her first love. Lets face it, that's the one you never forget. I would think she must have been very conflicted. Some of us might have considered consulting a shrink, but if she mentioned being a witch they would have put her on drugs and sent her to the loony bin. In the beginning she really didn't seem to want to take their relationship to the next level. That makes sense to me, but her heart was in charge of this and her better judgement lost the battle. Once that happened all bets were off. I can say that I have made more mistakes in my life than I would like to confess to, but when it came to those I made in matters of the heart .... there were times when I felt like I wasn't thinking clearly. Now if I had to add to my plate the witch factor along with love, life and obligations .... I would hope my power wasn't one where I could blow things up. I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. Oh Es your comment opened a door that I never entertained existed. It might have been better if Andy was introduced in season two. This would have given Prue stronger footing on her life and how to juggle magic and the world of reality she was accustomed to. I also ponder if it would have been a better avenue of approach it she learned that he was working as an SF inspector on the QT and had time to digest his return before they came face to face. That would've made a lot more sense - let Piper and Leo have the limelight in Season One when they were new and needed a guide; Andy in Season Two after they'd gotten more used to it; Cole to give them perspective in Season Three - the angel, the human and the demon. Yeah, a lot better way of keeping the spotlight on the sisters. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. Oh, yes, I like the idea of Cole being Andy's partner, but, more, I like the idea of Cole being Darryl's partner - with Andy dying at the end of Season Two. That way if Leo leaves at the end of Season One and never comes back and Dan never shows up so Piper never has another boyfriend but continues to mourn Leo; Andy dies at the end of Season Two so Prue mourns him during Season Three; and Cole is vanquished during Season Three, you have each one suffering a loss and understanding what it means so when at the end of Season Three they are offered the chance to give up their powers, we understand why all three decide to do just that - end of series! Hehehehehehe, sounds a bit like my Dream Series except I leave out Piper meeting Henry in Season Two and Phoebe and Andy marrying at the end of the series...but I think I like this one better. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 9, 2017 11:15:31 GMT -5
Hello Es. As stated my quote button hates me but I had to tell you that I like the flow chart you mentioned. If just makes so much more sense, but of course hind-sight is 20/20. Maybe the powers that be were unsure how long the show would last and were trying to keep it busy in order to interest viewers. No, I am not defending Kern, just trying to be realistic. On the other hand this was a Spelling production and generally from him we could usually count on a show running at least 3 seasons. Oh well, if not for all the changes we the fans think the show should have run with we might not all be chatting right now. In a way their sloppiness is our power. This is exactly right dear, especially since season 4 rushed into the Cole storyarc quickly, assuming it didn't make it past season 4 after Prue was killed off. But that's what makes these forums so much fun, wondering and playing around with ideas. I have to admit, I am *glad* the show wasn't so perfect. Because if it was, we wouldn't be able to generate all these wonderful discussions like this and read and write all the amazing fanfic stories. Oh GC your comment made me flash to the episode when the girls ended up in what was suppose to be a perfect world. Use your cell phone in the wrong place at the wrong time and off with your hand. Then it gets even crazier when the person is question is just fine with this because after all they did break the rules. Ouch! So I guess we could ponder the dangers of perfection along with the loss of free will and oh yes, a future as dull as dish water. So long gathered still chatting Charmed fans ... be thrilled, be delighted that those is charge made a mess of things and thus bestowed an amazing power upon us. Like "The Outer Limits" we are now in charge so don't bother to try and adjust the volume. For you youngsters out there check out "The Outer Limits" a mid 60's show that was way ahead of it's time. Sadly after 2 seasons it crashed and burned. Somethings I guess are just to smart and clever to survive. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 9, 2017 12:03:50 GMT -5
I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. Oh, yes, I like the idea of Cole being Andy's partner, but, more, I like the idea of Cole being Darryl's partner - with Andy dying at the end of Season Two. That way if Leo leaves at the end of Season One and never comes back and Dan never shows up so Piper never has another boyfriend but continues to mourn Leo; Andy dies at the end of Season Two so Prue mourns him during Season Three; and Cole is vanquished during Season Three, you have each one suffering a loss and understanding what it means so when at the end of Season Three they are offered the chance to give up their powers, we understand why all three decide to do just that - end of series! Hehehehehehe, sounds a bit like my Dream Series except I leave out Piper meeting Henry in Season Two and Phoebe and Andy marrying at the end of the series...but I think I like this one better. I like the way you put this together Es but I think I would have added a season 4 to wrap things up, at least as far as the girls were concerned. I have to wonder if Melinda's prophecy was really meant to continue as a never ending story. After all it is a big bad world out there and the evil fraction isn't going to go away. Their job therefore should have been to destroy the source and leave the lower level demons in disarray. That situation might not hold forever but let the future deal with itself in say 40 or 50 years. At that point the girls could have added some very powerful words of wisdom to The BOS for the children coming up behind them .... should it ever be needed. After all, fore warned is fore armed. A lesson that should have been learned sooner. That said, yes .... after all they had fought and struggled for, and all that they lost or had to shelve during those years is now over with. They fulfilled the prophecy for their time and now their job is to live their lives and quietly practice their craft in secret as ordinary witches with extraordinary wisdom. Perhaps the power of 3 or even 4 would be reconstituted in the years to come when it was truly needed to break down the dark-side that we all know would be regrouping at some point. Note: I don't see this as a trio of sisters, but cousins all with different last names. This I would hope would make it harder for a powerful evil to track them down. So in season 4 we see the different directions the girls move in as they are still witches, just not Charmed. I don't think the Angle of Destiny should have the ability to strip them of being witches as that is in there blood-line and you can't undo that. As for having powers, others of the craft that they encountered did have a power so that wouldn't be unusual for them to retain at least something. Since it was the power of three that set them free if they each moved on that connection is no more. That doesn't mean they can't chat on the phone, visit each other via computer or even get together in secret. |
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Post by ShadowCat on Feb 9, 2017 12:21:48 GMT -5
Thank you Es and GC for your comments. I have spoken a lot on this topic but I can't recall if I ever moved in this direction before. I sometimes pass over all of the drama the girls had to deal with the first year failing to take into consideration that they were really baby witches. Perhaps I forgot that though they were born into this, they were not fully raised in the ways of magic. What little was in their lives was deleted for their own safety. I think that short changed them, but that's for another thread. We can add another shock here, that being they were not ordinary witches. As far as we know there were no others like them anywhere. What was bestowed upon them was not a gift but a dangerous job they had no training for and in a way, couldn't reject. Prue being the first born, the one with the most responsibilities and given a major power must have been overwhelmed. Then who turns up .... Andy. Whom I suspect was her first love. Lets face it, that's the one you never forget. I would think she must have been very conflicted. Some of us might have considered consulting a shrink, but if she mentioned being a witch they would have put her on drugs and sent her to the loony bin. In the beginning she really didn't seem to want to take their relationship to the next level. That makes sense to me, but her heart was in charge of this and her better judgement lost the battle. Once that happened all bets were off. I can say that I have made more mistakes in my life than I would like to confess to, but when it came to those I made in matters of the heart .... there were times when I felt like I wasn't thinking clearly. Now if I had to add to my plate the witch factor along with love, life and obligations .... I would hope my power wasn't one where I could blow things up. I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. Oh Es your comment opened a door that I never entertained existed. It might have been better if Andy was introduced in season two. This would have given Prue stronger footing on her life and how to juggle magic and the world of reality she was accustomed to. I also ponder if it would have been a better avenue of approach it she learned that he was working as an SF inspector on the QT and had time to digest his return before they came face to face. That would've made a lot more sense - let Piper and Leo have the limelight in Season One when they were new and needed a guide; Andy in Season Two after they'd gotten more used to it; Cole to give them perspective in Season Three - the angel, the human and the demon. Yeah, a lot better way of keeping the spotlight on the sisters. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. You know, I never considered Cole being paired with either Andy or Darryl, but after some personal critical thinking that might have been a splendid idea. If we run with the 3 or 4 season deal, to move this along Andy figures it out. Cole kills him. Darryl makes the discovery and almost looses his life while trying to convince the girls who Cole really is. Piper witness this and saves Darryl. Prue snaps out of the grief stage and is in a rage. Phoebe is conflicted but when Cole attempts to kill Prue she snaps. She says something like, "Power of three or not, I will destroy you." Cole's human half that truly loves Phoebe surrenders to his fate. End of Cole. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 9, 2017 22:39:23 GMT -5
I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. Oh, yes, I like the idea of Cole being Andy's partner, but, more, I like the idea of Cole being Darryl's partner - with Andy dying at the end of Season Two. That way if Leo leaves at the end of Season One and never comes back and Dan never shows up so Piper never has another boyfriend but continues to mourn Leo; Andy dies at the end of Season Two so Prue mourns him during Season Three; and Cole is vanquished during Season Three, you have each one suffering a loss and understanding what it means so when at the end of Season Three they are offered the chance to give up their powers, we understand why all three decide to do just that - end of series! Hehehehehehe, sounds a bit like my Dream Series except I leave out Piper meeting Henry in Season Two and Phoebe and Andy marrying at the end of the series...but I think I like this one better. Oh I love that idea too, with Andy dying at the end of season 2. At least this way, we could play around the idea that Cole might be a good guy at the begining and just a new partner for Darryl. Better yet, I would *love* the idea of Andy or Darryl being the one worried about Cole instead of Prue. What a good series. This is exactly right dear, especially since season 4 rushed into the Cole storyarc quickly, assuming it didn't make it past season 4 after Prue was killed off. But that's what makes these forums so much fun, wondering and playing around with ideas. I have to admit, I am *glad* the show wasn't so perfect. Because if it was, we wouldn't be able to generate all these wonderful discussions like this and read and write all the amazing fanfic stories. Oh GC your comment made me flash to the episode when the girls ended up in what was suppose to be a perfect world. Use your cell phone in the wrong place at the wrong time and off with your hand. Then it gets even crazier when the person is question is just fine with this because after all they did break the rules. Ouch! So I guess we could ponder the dangers of perfection along with the loss of free will and oh yes, a future as dull as dish water. So long gathered still chatting Charmed fans ... be thrilled, be delighted that those is charge made a mess of things and thus bestowed an amazing power upon us. Like "The Outer Limits" we are now in charge so don't bother to try and adjust the volume. For you youngsters out there check out "The Outer Limits" a mid 60's show that was way ahead of it's time. Sadly after 2 seasons it crashed and burned. Somethings I guess are just to smart and clever to survive. HAHA great points! It reminds me I haven't seen that show in *SO* long. Oh, yes, I like the idea of Cole being Andy's partner, but, more, I like the idea of Cole being Darryl's partner - with Andy dying at the end of Season Two. That way if Leo leaves at the end of Season One and never comes back and Dan never shows up so Piper never has another boyfriend but continues to mourn Leo; Andy dies at the end of Season Two so Prue mourns him during Season Three; and Cole is vanquished during Season Three, you have each one suffering a loss and understanding what it means so when at the end of Season Three they are offered the chance to give up their powers, we understand why all three decide to do just that - end of series! Hehehehehehe, sounds a bit like my Dream Series except I leave out Piper meeting Henry in Season Two and Phoebe and Andy marrying at the end of the series...but I think I like this one better. I like the way you put this together Es but I think I would have added a season 4 to wrap things up, at least as far as the girls were concerned. I have to wonder if Melinda's prophecy was really meant to continue as a never ending story. After all it is a big bad world out there and the evil fraction isn't going to go away. Their job therefore should have been to destroy the source and leave the lower level demons in disarray. That situation might not hold forever but let the future deal with itself in say 40 or 50 years. At that point the girls could have added some very powerful words of wisdom to The BOS for the children coming up behind them .... should it ever be needed. After all, fore warned is fore armed. A lesson that should have been learned sooner. That said, yes .... after all they had fought and struggled for, and all that they lost or had to shelve during those years is now over with. They fulfilled the prophecy for their time and now their job is to live their lives and quietly practice their craft in secret as ordinary witches with extraordinary wisdom. Perhaps the power of 3 or even 4 would be reconstituted in the years to come when it was truly needed to break down the dark-side that we all know would be regrouping at some point. Note: I don't see this as a trio of sisters, but cousins all with different last names. This I would hope would make it harder for a powerful evil to track them down. So in season 4 we see the different directions the girls move in as they are still witches, just not Charmed. I don't think the Angle of Destiny should have the ability to strip them of being witches as that is in there blood-line and you can't undo that. As for having powers, others of the craft that they encountered did have a power so that wouldn't be unusual for them to retain at least something. Since it was the power of three that set them free if they each moved on that connection is no more. That doesn't mean they can't chat on the phone, visit each other via computer or even get together in secret. Love seeing your mind at work dear. You honestly have to do your own Dream Charmed or How you would construct your perfect 4 season series of Charmed. Just summaries of each season. But I never considered them just being not the Charmed Ones, but just being witches. Which brings me to a point dear, the Charmed Ones finished their destiny and vanquished the Source. So any demons afterwards would be lower, and more like loose ends and not needing the power of three or Charmed Ones, that all the upper level demons are gone. That *now* it's back to basics with lower level demons and innocents to save. That would allow the next generation to continue the legacy, but neither of the children can become the Charmed Ones. Just regular witches. Because the Charmed Ones ended when they finished their destiny, and the Charmed Prophecy has ran its course. I agree with you dear, so much of this has opened my eyes. Keep this coming SC. I am loving all your comments on this topic. I never considered this dears. Now this might have worked much better. However I am not too sure if all three sisters being paired with a major love interest in season 3 would work, maybe it could dears? Actually on second thought, forget what I just said. Andy and Prue wouldn't be a couple. So it wouldn't be all three after all. In this instance, would we even have Darryl? They could easily just have Cole being Andy's partner instead of him being a DA in season 3. You know, I never considered Cole being paired with either Andy or Darryl, but after some personal critical thinking that might have been a splendid idea. If we run with the 3 or 4 season deal, to move this along Andy figures it out. Cole kills him. Darryl makes the discovery and almost looses his life while trying to convince the girls who Cole really is. Piper witness this and saves Darryl. Prue snaps out of the grief stage and is in a rage. Phoebe is conflicted but when Cole attempts to kill Prue she snaps. She says something like, "Power of three or not, I will destroy you." Cole's human half that truly loves Phoebe surrenders to his fate. End of Cole.  Oh dear you have to do your own rundown of how you would do Charmed. All these idea's are *just* too good to not use. Even if your Charmed is a 4 season series with just the original sisters. I am loving all your ideas dear. |
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