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Post by sol on Nov 15, 2016 1:22:45 GMT -5
People write to a columnist to talk of problems of love, relationships, family, work, not necessarily problems that require magical intervention, then I think that Phoebe's role in the newspaper was used in the right way
It was a job fit for Phoebe, loved by Phoebe and quite flexible, with the chance to work from home, which allowed the freedom to be witch, while their jobs were a big problem for Prue and Paige
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Post by ljones on Nov 20, 2016 14:52:58 GMT -5
I honest don't care.
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Post by aggiefan12 on Jan 9, 2017 19:32:42 GMT -5
You gotta have degree in journalism or communications in order to give general advice in newspapers but if you are giving advice in one specific area you have to have a degree in that field.
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 20, 2017 23:59:40 GMT -5
Phoebe could've been a counciler as her empathy could really tap into patients problems and helped them cope. Isn't that a skill listed for empaths?
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Post by Granny Charmed on Feb 21, 2017 0:17:01 GMT -5
Phoebe could've been a counciler as her empathy could really tap into patients problems and helped them cope. Isn't that a skill listed for empaths? Yes dear, I agree that would of put her gifts to better use. She studied psychology in college, and I just didn't feel her job was suited for her. Much like how I hated what they did with Paige leaving her social services job. |
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 21, 2017 0:24:12 GMT -5
I agree granny charmed. Social work fit Paige like a glove. Your right that was the degree she went into.
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Post by Alana on Jun 18, 2017 5:34:32 GMT -5
I don't mind her being a columnist but I hated all that plot with turning her in some super-star.
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Post by gzv969 on Jun 18, 2017 14:01:52 GMT -5
I didn't like phoebe as a columnist. I would have preferred she became a psychologist. Having an office where she could listen to clients problems and be able to use her empathy and occasional premonitions from touching to help them would have worked better for her .
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Post by ljones on Jun 18, 2017 17:09:35 GMT -5
I get the feeling that becoming an advice columnist doesn't require any degree in journalism or psychology.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Jun 18, 2017 20:58:00 GMT -5
I didn't like phoebe as a columnist. I would have preferred she became a physiologist. Having an office where she could listen to clients problems and be able to use her empathy and occasional premonitions from touching to help them would have worked better for her . Now that dear is a job *worthy* of Phoebe using her gifts to help others. She after all studied psychology. She could have had been a Counselling psychologist or Educational psychologist at a school helping out young teens. Where she herself has experiences as being Freebie. Much better jobs dear than being a famous advise columnist. Also like Paige, who had a job as a social worker which really was an amazing job any of the sisters had. |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Jun 23, 2017 14:44:48 GMT -5
I get the feeling that becoming an advice columnist doesn't require any degree in journalism or psychology. Most Magazines and Newspaper want someone with a background in english, journalism and social sciences. |
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 24, 2017 10:00:17 GMT -5
Phoebe being a columnist was perfect. It embodied everything she was. She got to give her true advice without all the filter. Being a psychologist wouldn't have fitted Phoebe at all. You can't say what you want, you have to allow the patient to come to their own conclusion about their issues. Phoebe was too straight forward with her advice to do that. Also I doubt she could sit around all day and listen to people problems. As a columnist Phoebe got to the pick the letters she responded to. She had more control in the situation. She had more freedom.
Being a school counselor or Therapist would have been boring for Phoebe. There would be no way she could put in the time and would have been fired. Add in the fact Phoebe has no control what she responds to. A big part of Phoebe is being slightly selfish. Not to mention she couldn't say what she truly felt but rather what was the "Nice" thing to say.
With Paige her perfect job was being the Head Mistress of Magical school. She honestly had the capacity to help way more people. As a social worker there is rules that has to be followed. Some times the bad guys win and since they are Human there was really nothing Paige could do about it.
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Post by Charmed by Piper on Jun 24, 2017 10:12:44 GMT -5
Even then she is only responding to letters to help. Sure Phoebe can pick and choose who to help. But face to face is a much better way of really helping. You can only do so much by just responding to a letter, you get a much better story from patient's if you see them in person. You can't really get to the bottom of a problem in a letter. Using her Empathy powers could really tap into patients problems and help them.
But I don't think the Phoebe of the later seasons of Charmed, could be capable of doing a good job of a psychologist. Maybe the job did fit that Phoebe more.
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Post by peytonhalliwell on Jul 18, 2017 16:43:18 GMT -5
I didn't mind it, I didn't like how big she got because of it but honestly she could have worse jobs.
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Post by ljones on Jul 21, 2017 21:57:01 GMT -5
I get the feeling that becoming an advice columnist doesn't require any degree in journalism or psychology. Most Magazines and Newspaper want someone with a background in english, journalism and social sciences. Is that today? Because two of the most famous advice columinsts don't have degrees in any of these subjects. |
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Post by codebox on Jun 26, 2019 5:40:31 GMT -5
Absolutely not! It was by far my least favorite attribute about Season 5-8 Phoebe. Along with being obnoxiously self involved the advice column thing only served to constantly prolong that problem. Like with Paige should've never quit her job Phoebe should've got a job in psychology. It would've developed from her being a college student and made her Empathy development more natural. Of course considering by the time she got Empathy she was far gone anyway, yet somehow got worse when she had it? Phoebe was just handed the job as well. Phoebe's column subplots were mainly just pure filler in most instances.
It also felt like one final stab at Prue's character saying "Phoebe is now the one with the successful job and work troubles, take that Prue". Not only that it also took away from a lot of the plots going on, being a column about advice could've been a nice way of implementing Phoebe's readers to ask for "literal" advice for the sisters to help them, but instead all we experience is the column staff endlessly praise and worship her, hear about how insightful her advice is and for Phoebe to just have an obnoxious cycle of "guys" she finds that teach her about love, only for her to make the same mistake over again.
The thing I hated most about Phoebe's advice column more than the general wish fulfillment behind it and her sudden celeberity status which was unrealistic and shouldn't have happened is how it literally only served as a way to make Phoebe increasingly more self obsessed with her priorities and distant from her Charmed One duties.
She would use the column as an excuse to skip out demon hunting, go on about how her column deadlines/meetings are so important that the sisters current situation just seems to inconvenience that (In the Importance of being Phoebe she literally states "My career is the most important thing to me") it would get so bad she'd often neglect innocents or obsess over it to the point where even her sister's need took second fiddle in comparison. Like in Scry Hard where after Zankou throws Phoebe and Paige and locks them out of the manor with a shrunken Piper and Leo (who is presumed missed by Phoebe and Paige) Phoebe just decides its a good idea to go write her column deadline and when Paige tries conveniencing her Piper is missing Phoebe just cared more about the column than Piper and Leo lives.
She would even use it to take calls in the Underworld and served as a way to find her baby daddies. Bottomline Phoebe's advice column was one of the worst things about the show and only served to doom Phoebe to her self centered behavior.
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Post by Elle Em on Jun 26, 2019 8:52:31 GMT -5
I didn't think it was bad necessarily that Phoebe cared so much about her work, but more of how she prioritized it. When someone says that their career is the most important thing to them, you can usually get the sense that while that may be mostly true, obviously their family is more important, even if they don't say so. It's just implied. But Phoebe got to the point where that wasn't obvious. Unless she outright stated that her family was more important, it was hard to believe she cared more about anything than her job.
Besides that, I don't think I would have minded her column as much if it didn't get so big, and it was also about other things besides love. It's been a while, but I can't recall a single instance other than her very first letter about the woman being afraid to live alone where she dealt with an issue other than one pertaining to sex and/or romance.
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Post by Katie Warren on Jun 26, 2019 19:54:38 GMT -5
I'm curious that if Paige was never introduced, and Shannen stayed if the intention was for Phoebe to be a social worker in S4, and when they got rid of Shannen and created Paige, they used that job for her character.
Too bad, Phoebe didn't become a psychologist to help people. But, I can see the Phoebe of S1 and S2 doing a fantastic job with it, but not Kern and Alyssa's Phoebe.
I never cared for her advise column at all. Phoebe should have quit her job in S5, not Paige and spent the rest of S5 healing from what she went through in S3 and S4 and just being an aunt to her soon to be born niece or nephew. We may even have gotten to see Phoebe go back to her roots, loving magic again.
She even wanted to take a break from her job in S7 and go back to school, this should have been what she did in S5, not S7.
It seemed she used her job as a distraction from her problems and really after everything she went through prior to S5, she got so big between S4 and S5 too soon. And Paige's character completely did a 180, and quitting her job was the worst thing they ever did to her character.
I'd have rather Phoebe spent S5 looking out for her family, being excited about being an aunt, healing from Cole and losing a baby, caring about innocents again and getting in touch with the part of her that was lost before she met Cole. Let Paige be the one to get so big in her job, she earned it, and was a part of identity before she met her sisters. Paige getting the promotion and bigger in her career over Phoebe made much more sense.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jun 27, 2019 2:27:12 GMT -5
I'm curious that if Paige was never introduced, and Shannen stayed if the intention was for Phoebe to be a social worker in S4, and when they got rid of Shannen and created Paige, they used that job for her character. Too bad, Phoebe didn't become a psychologist to help people. But, I can see the Phoebe of S1 and S2 doing a fantastic job with it, but not Kern and Alyssa's Phoebe. I never cared for her advise column at all. Phoebe should have quit her job in S5, not Paige and spent the rest of S5 healing from what she went through in S3 and S4 and just being an aunt to her soon to be born niece or nephew. We may even have gotten to see Phoebe go back to her roots, loving magic again. She even wanted to take a break from her job in S7 and go back to school, this should have been what she did in S5, not S7. It seemed she used her job as a distraction from her problems and really after everything she went through prior to S5, she got so big between S4 and S5 too soon. And Paige's character completely did a 180, and quitting her job was the worst thing they ever did to her character. I'd have rather Phoebe spent S5 looking out for her family, being excited about being an aunt, healing from Cole and losing a baby, caring about innocents again and getting in touch with the part of her that was lost before she met Cole. Let Paige be the one to get so big in her job, she earned it, and was a part of identity before she met her sisters. Paige getting the promotion and bigger in her career over Phoebe made much more sense. I agree with you Katie. Phoebe needed to get back being the fun loving carefree spirited girl we knew seasons 1 & 2 then. Your right in her quitting her job instead of Paige because as you said the things which happened to Phoebe 2 years prior and the one before were good reasons for her to do so but not Paige who loved her job which fitted her character and I assume went to or was perhaps in her final year of college getting trained which wasn't referenced or seen. Although Phoebe not working would've hit the households income with a new baby coming in it didn't affect the original P03 when Prue and Piper worked then and Piper essentially had have got free childcare allowing her still to run P3. |
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Post by Elle Em on Jun 27, 2019 8:03:11 GMT -5
I like the idea that if Prue had stayed, Phoebe would have become the social worker. Maybe after the Source was vanquished, if they hadn't done the whole evil Phoebe thing, she would have had more time to focus on a career. And perhaps if they didn't have as many innocents to save, it would have felt natural for her to help people at her new job.
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