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Post by gzv969 on Mar 24, 2017 16:16:08 GMT -5
Was piper right to treat Phoebe the way she was in this episode? Instead of trying to give her a chance and try to win her back and talk to her more nicely, piper went into an all out offensive mode. She was seemingly ready to vanquish her if necessary. Throwing a potion at Phoebe when she came to them in the manor and making all those potions for attack. Sort of like Piper did with Billy and Christy in Season 8 once she realized they were evil. It became an all out war for her.
The three episodes. "Were off to see the Wizard". "Long Live the Queen" and "Womb Raider" as still three of my best episodes to rewatch. That scene in "Long Live the Queen" in the ally when Piper and Phoebe argued and piper was telling Phoebe to leave her husband was one of the most epic and emotional confrontations between the sisters, apart from that one in "Power Outage". More because Piper and Phoebe hardly went at it before.
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Post by magena on Mar 26, 2017 12:42:46 GMT -5
Piper had the reaction that Prue'ld have, many fans suspect that the part was written for Prue character
Instead, Paige, who barely knew Phoebe, had the tolerance tipical of Piper
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 26, 2017 15:24:47 GMT -5
Piper had the reaction that Prue'ld have, many fans suspect that the part was written for Prue character Instead, Paige, who barely knew Phoebe, had the tolerance tipical of Piper That's pretty cool, this explains her behavior a little more since I know she became more outspoken but that was a little excessive even for Piper(at least in my eyes) |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 26, 2017 16:23:53 GMT -5
Piper had the reaction that Prue'ld have, many fans suspect that the part was written for Prue character Instead, Paige, who barely knew Phoebe, had the tolerance tipical of Piper That's pretty cool, this explains her behavior a little more since I know she became more outspoken but that was a little excessive even for Piper(at least in my eyes) Yes, but not for Prue. Great explanation, Magena. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 26, 2017 16:46:36 GMT -5
That's pretty cool, this explains her behavior a little more since I know she became more outspoken but that was a little excessive even for Piper(at least in my eyes) Yes, but not for Prue. Great explanation, Magena. Exactly which is why I was a little confused because it seemed out of character for Piper but seeing this made more sense. |
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Post by sol on Mar 27, 2017 0:42:18 GMT -5
It'ld be an usual Halliwell situation:Prue, plagued with guilt for not having hindered from the start the story between Cole and Phoeb, would react harshly
Piper with the same feelings of guilt for having almost encouraged their love story, would try in every way to mediate between her sisters
Piper's reaction doen't belong to Piper
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Post by adzpower on Mar 27, 2017 4:09:47 GMT -5
I think that she reacted that way BECAUSE of losing Prue. She experienced such pain and grief when Prue died, that even the thought of losing Phoebe as well so soon after sent her into drinking and "fight" mode. Where it was easier to see Phoebe as the enemy who was meant to be vanquished than as her lost sister.
Think about it, Piper was already hardening up from losing Prue, but losing Phoebe as well tipped her over the edge, she lost it, hence the reaction she had. I think it makes sense.
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 27, 2017 13:33:56 GMT -5
I think that she reacted that way BECAUSE of losing Prue. She experienced such pain and grief when Prue died, that even the thought of losing Phoebe as well so soon after sent her into drinking and "fight" mode. Where it was easier to see Phoebe as the enemy who was meant to be vanquished than as her lost sister. Think about it, Piper was already hardening up from losing Prue, but losing Phoebe as well tipped her over the edge, she lost it, hence the reaction she had. I think it makes sense. I get where your coming from. Just as Prue was piper's source of anger when she left them and Piper turned into a fury, same with Phoebe. Piper was now really mad with her that she was essentially giving into evil by choice and leaving her again. |
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 27, 2017 13:38:56 GMT -5
Yes, but not for Prue. Great explanation, Magena. Exactly which is why I was a little confused because it seemed out of character for Piper but seeing this made more sense. Same sort of scenario in "Which Way Now" when the Angel of Destiny offered them a clean slate. Paige was the one to quickly say "no" and Phoebe was the one wanting to think about it. You would think it would have been Phoebe to be the one to quickly say "No Thanks" and Paige and Piper to be the ones to consider the offer. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 27, 2017 13:47:44 GMT -5
Exactly which is why I was a little confused because it seemed out of character for Piper but seeing this made more sense. Same sort of scenario in "Which Way Now" when the Angel of Destiny offered them a clean slate. Paige was the one to quickly say "no" and Phoebe was the one wanting to think about it. You would think it would have been Phoebe to be the one to quickly say "No Thanks" and Paige and Piper to be the ones to consider the offer. See I felt that it fit as Paige was new to witchcraft and everything was still exciting and she didn't deal with the loss that Phoebe and Piper did. Of course Paige lost her parents but that wasn't due to demons,Phoebe and Piper were probably worried of losing more people they love and if it was worth is just like when Prue questioned herself when Andy died. I think it was unfair though because they went back to saving an innocent and that reminded them of how it used to be but then after they decided to keep their powers it was just fighting off demons again from stealing the book or trying to kill them. |
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 27, 2017 15:16:08 GMT -5
Same sort of scenario in "Which Way Now" when the Angel of Destiny offered them a clean slate. Paige was the one to quickly say "no" and Phoebe was the one wanting to think about it. You would think it would have been Phoebe to be the one to quickly say "No Thanks" and Paige and Piper to be the ones to consider the offer. See I felt that it fit as Paige was new to witchcraft and everything was still exciting and she didn't deal with the loss that Phoebe and Piper did. Of course Paige lost her parents but that wasn't due to demons,Phoebe and Piper were probably worried of losing more people they love and if it was worth is just like when Prue questioned herself when Andy died. I think it was unfair though because they went back to saving an innocent and that reminded them of how it used to be but then after they decided to keep their powers it was just fighting off demons again from stealing the book or trying to kill them. True. I just felt phoebe was the one who used to loved the craft so much but I guess by now with the loss of Prue, her new job and Cole issues she was now a different person. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 27, 2017 16:26:47 GMT -5
See I felt that it fit as Paige was new to witchcraft and everything was still exciting and she didn't deal with the loss that Phoebe and Piper did. Of course Paige lost her parents but that wasn't due to demons,Phoebe and Piper were probably worried of losing more people they love and if it was worth is just like when Prue questioned herself when Andy died. I think it was unfair though because they went back to saving an innocent and that reminded them of how it used to be but then after they decided to keep their powers it was just fighting off demons again from stealing the book or trying to kill them. True. I just felt phoebe was the one who used to loved the craft so much but I guess by now with the loss of Prue, her new job and Cole issues she was now a different person. I agree I think with the loss of Prue and Cole it sent her over the edge which is why so many people liked the episodes with Drake because for a glimpse we got to see old Phoebe back. |
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 27, 2017 16:53:40 GMT -5
True. I just felt phoebe was the one who used to loved the craft so much but I guess by now with the loss of Prue, her new job and Cole issues she was now a different person. I agree I think with the loss of Prue and Cole it sent her over the edge which is why so many people liked the episodes with Drake because for a glimpse we got to see old Phoebe back. What surprised me in "Witch Way Now" was that when Phoebe first did say "No" and that she would think about the offer, Piper seemed to just go along with phoebe. Then at the end when Phoebe said she no longer wanted to consider it, that she had a taste of her life without powers and she didn't like it, piper also went along with her decision. It almost felt like piper couldn't make up her own mind on what she really wanted. You would think after jumping over the burning stake and saving the other witch and nearly hurting herself she would have had a stronger resolve to get out. |
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 27, 2017 17:23:30 GMT -5
I agree I think with the loss of Prue and Cole it sent her over the edge which is why so many people liked the episodes with Drake because for a glimpse we got to see old Phoebe back. What surprised me in "Witch Way Now" was that when Phoebe first did say "No" and that she would think about the offer, Piper seemed to just go along with phoebe. Then at the end when Phoebe said she no longer wanted to consider it, that she had a taste of her life without powers and she didn't like it, piper also went along with her decision. It almost felt like piper couldn't make up her own mind on what she really wanted. You would think after jumping over the burning stake and saving the other witch and nearly hurting herself she would have had a stronger resolve to get out. It might have been because she didn't want to be the decision maker because if she didn't like her life without powers she would have no one to blame but herself but if someone else took control on the decision making she could complain about how she wanted to but went along with the majority. I think it also was she felt good about saving a witch and not just defending herself and her family from demon attacks. As the show went on it shifted away from saving innocents to fighting off demons. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 27, 2017 18:47:56 GMT -5
What surprised me in "Witch Way Now" was that when Phoebe first did say "No" and that she would think about the offer, Piper seemed to just go along with phoebe. Then at the end when Phoebe said she no longer wanted to consider it, that she had a taste of her life without powers and she didn't like it, piper also went along with her decision. It almost felt like piper couldn't make up her own mind on what she really wanted. You would think after jumping over the burning stake and saving the other witch and nearly hurting herself she would have had a stronger resolve to get out. It might have been because she didn't want to be the decision maker because if she didn't like her life without powers she would have no one to blame but herself but if someone else took control on the decision making she could complain about how she wanted to but went along with the majority. I think it also was she felt good about saving a witch and not just defending herself and her family from demon attacks. As the show went on it shifted away from saving innocents to fighting off demons. LOL, that sounds very much like the one who one of my friends always called, "Little Miss Itsnevermyfault." |
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Post by sol on Mar 28, 2017 3:05:32 GMT -5
I think that Piper really wanted a life without powers but, as always, she put her sisters'wishes at the first place
And if Phoebe and Paige wanted carry on with magic, the Power of Three was the best shelter for them
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Post by charmedforlife28 on Mar 28, 2017 11:39:32 GMT -5
I think that Piper really wanted a life without powers but, as always, she put her sisters'wishes at the first place And if Phoebe and Paige wanted carry on with magic, the Power of Three was the best shelter for them Piper started having doubts about magic as early as season 2 so I am not all that surprised that she began to hate magic especially when so many people she lost was due to magic |
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Post by magena on Apr 10, 2017 5:17:25 GMT -5
I don't think that Piper hated magic, she surely hated the demons and all those who hunted them
She wished more safety for her children and those she loved, a graspable wish
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 25, 2018 0:20:12 GMT -5
I think Piper didn't hate magic...she thought it was a gift in like season 4 when Leo wanted to strip their future child's powers but Piper didn't. I think she just didn't like the loss that was attached to it.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 25, 2018 1:50:07 GMT -5
And Piper wanting her child to have magic and thinking of it as a gift sounded more like Holly than Piper. I think Piper would want her child to have as normal of a childhood as she had. Each time she'd say otherwise, I'd wonder if Piper was under some sort of spell.
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