Ruth Marie
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Post by Ruth Marie on Sept 27, 2018 23:09:15 GMT -5
A new source each season, I'm not sure. May as well just not have a Source at all, and just a new big bad every season. I'd find it repetitive for a new Source coming into power every season.
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 28, 2018 7:12:20 GMT -5
The Source wouldn't be scary if it showed up in some form all the time. I liked the buildup in the first few seasons where he was unseen, and I enjoyed the first vanquish in Charmed and Dangerous. After that, it just gets repetitive.
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 2, 2018 19:37:49 GMT -5
I'd prefer if we never saw him as him, but instead he kept possessing different people in different seasons, the way he possessed Shane. Imagine if he had possessed Leo or one of the sisters or Cole? That would've been *so* suspenseful, especially is we knew it when the sisters didn't.
I'd also much prefer if he was indeed the Source of All Evil, so no one else could be that (especially not Cole!) and he'd never be able to be vanquished.
No, what I'd *REALLY* prefer is that Cole was the Source in disguise - and therefore always evil.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 2, 2018 19:42:50 GMT -5
Not only was he shown too soon, he was introduced way too soon. There should've been a different "sorta Big Bad" (like what Rex was in S1) in each season, who would be the sisters' main antagonist that season, but who was always the "lackey" for some big, great REALLY evil person, but ALWAYS called just "Him" (or preferred...HER!), not the Source or Satan or anything else. Then let Him/Her be revealed as the Source of All Evil in the last season...when HE (or SHE) vanquishes the Charmed Ones, leaving Leo (and whoever else) to raise the kids, setting up the spin-off, with the Charmed Ones occasionally showing up as ghosts.
What would really make it fun would be if the sisters always thought that whoever the bad guy was that season WAS the BIG, BIG BAD, and the disappointment the following season when they find out..NOPE!
Had they done that, we might be watching that rather than Supernatural, so no need for a Charmed spin-off.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Oct 2, 2018 19:51:22 GMT -5
Buffy introduced The First (evil) in S3 and it became the big bad in S7. Having The Source as a one off in S3 was needed after talking about him for so long with them facing him at the end of the series.
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Post by pheebs on Oct 2, 2018 20:21:13 GMT -5
Not only was he shown too soon, he was introduced way too soon. There should've been a different "sorta Big Bad" (like what Rex was in S1) in each season, who would be the sisters' main antagonist that season, but who was always the "lackey" for some big, great REALLY evil person, but ALWAYS called just "Him" (or preferred...HER!), not the Source or Satan or anything else. Then let Him/Her be revealed as the Source of All Evil in the last season...when HE (or SHE) vanquishes the Charmed Ones, leaving Leo (and whoever else) to raise the kids, setting up the spin-off, with the Charmed Ones occasionally showing up as ghosts. What would really make it fun would be if the sisters always thought that whoever the bad guy was that season WAS the BIG, BIG BAD, and the disappointment the following season when they find out..NOPE! Had they done that, we might be watching that rather than Supernatural, so no need for a Charmed spin-off. Maybe having him appear later would be better, maybe he cannot physically leave the underworld, and needed to do something in order to allow himself to even get to earth. Maybe this is why he needs to take possession of someone. But the catch, this person has to agree to want him to do it, so he has to manipulate them to allow himself to jump into someone else's body. But The Source taking possession of Leo or Cole would be very interesting. Would feel a little Apocalypse Not, are the sisters willing to let their loved one die if they defeat the Source or not? Even if I'd prefer the Source not being allowed to be killed off for good, but just banished back to the underworld or even something that is like the Tall Man in a cage. How can ALL EVIL be vanquished? That always made no sense to me.
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Post by Miranda Turner on Dec 9, 2018 8:30:16 GMT -5
After seeing how much fun the evil Charmed One's storyline could be if it expanded it to a full arc. I'm now starting to wonder how much better Charmed could have been if the Source wasn't the threat shown at all, and they left the evil Charmed Ones as the villains of S3 and S4, especially if Cole was part of this coven.
But the Source was revealed way too soon, that should be in the final season. But the idea that someone brought in this thread, with instead he kept possessing different people in different seasons, would be very scary. Especially, if the sisters didn't learn he was doing it until much later. That really would very be suspenseful, if the viewers knew and not the sisters.
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Post by summerreading on Dec 9, 2018 8:33:27 GMT -5
I never cared for the Source. So him not appearing at all would be perfect.
If he was to appear. I'd rather it be a her. Would allow the show to be more female centric when it never really was. Apart from the sisters surrounded by the men and male demons. Apart from The Seer, Kyra and the Crone. We had none or too few.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 9, 2018 11:30:50 GMT -5
The S4 Seer would've made a fantastic female Source, but I actually preferred her being the power behind the throne. The Crone would also make an interesting one.
Although I really like Peyton's idea of having Hecate being a rival of the Source - except I'd want her to *be* the Source...just not introduce so soon.
Either having the Source possess someone different each season or have him not show up until the last season (if you HAVE to have Billie & Christy, put them in a different season!) or preferred, not have him at all. Even the Triad would make a better Source than the one we got stuck with.
Or my favorite solution, what I use in my Dream Charmed - PRUDENCE and BELTHAZOR as the leaders of the Underworld, with Prue agreeing to turn evil if Piper and Phoebe are allowed to live during All Hell Breaks Loose when *they're* the ones thrown through the wall during Phoebe and Andy's wedding!
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Post by pheebs on Dec 9, 2018 19:38:22 GMT -5
Interesting you brought up Hecate Es when Charmed was the first to portray her as a demon when she was always the Goddess of witchcraft and magic in Greek Mythology.
If Charmed was more focused on warlocks, with demons as minor/one-offs. Hecate being a warlock would be much closer to the real mythology. But when hasn't Charmed not stuck to real mythology before. Maybe she produced the first half-warlock/half-demon child, an idea you brought up Es in another thread.
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Post by ryang on Feb 16, 2019 15:51:37 GMT -5
I do wish that the evil Charmed Ones storyline were developed in a multi-episode arc, or the horseman... so many opportunities for some great big bads that never came to be...
I agree that involving the Source as a character was necessary at some point after talking about him so much, though it did create a lot of suspense.
I recall the Source first being mentioned in 2.15 and again in 2.21. Season 3 was really the season of all the mentions...
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Apr 4, 2019 16:35:35 GMT -5
Did Leo tell the sisters about the Source off screen. In Apocalypse Not, they know lots about him but first heard his name in Give Me a Sign.
He was only known as The Source. When did they start adding the 'of All Evil' part into the story.
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Post by ryang on Apr 5, 2019 12:09:51 GMT -5
Did Leo tell the sisters about the Source off screen. In Apocalypse Not, they know lots about him but first heard his name in Give Me a Sign. He was only known as The Source. When did they start adding the 'of All Evil' part into the story. Was that when Paige asked in Charmed again: "The source of what....?" And Piper or Phoebe answered, "...of all evil."?
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Post by pheebs on Apr 6, 2019 21:36:07 GMT -5
Did Leo tell the sisters about the Source off screen. In Apocalypse Not, they know lots about him but first heard his name in Give Me a Sign. He was only known as The Source. When did they start adding the 'of All Evil' part into the story. Was that when Paige asked in Charmed again: "The source of what....?" And Piper or Phoebe answered, "...of all evil."? I think your right. So much about his backstory kept changing, and like Prudence said, the sisters learned about who he was off-screen. If he was the Source of ALL evil, then having 'All Evil' being able to be vanquished made no sense.
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Post by ryang on May 9, 2019 21:31:10 GMT -5
I suppose he kills the Power of 3, he gets the power of 3 -- not just their individual powers. With 4 seasons of building up to the source, it really was not well thought through, so I'd vote for just any coherent, sustained, structured storyline with the source. The new Charmed is doing a good job with this.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 22, 2021 12:51:28 GMT -5
I'm gonna say "No and should've been shown earlier in S3". His story was such an integral part of Prue's death, that I wanted to see more of his planning instead of "just because".
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Post by angelap on Nov 20, 2024 21:08:53 GMT -5
I found all the build-up led to a pretty crappy ending. He's built up way too much only to be such a waste of a character.
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