Charmed CW Reboot Ordered to Pilot: Attempt Number 3

[purelywyatt]

Apr 30, 2018 19:42:25 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

Not sure how reliable this is. So take it with a grain of salt.

Fun fact: Valerie Cruz previously appeared in Nip/Tuck, opposite Julian McMahon.

I'll still trust all the information Willow had kindly provided us than this source.

I relayed this information a few days ago in the casting thread. She's listed on the IMBD page so I'll say it's legit.

[Granny Charmed]

I see this actress is 41 years old, and only 8 years older than the actress playing the middle sister. Not that this hasn't happened before dears for television shows or movies with casting for children and parents being so close in real life.

But crazy to think the actress playing the mother in the reboot is younger than Alyssa, Shannen, Holly or Rose dears.

[Esmeralda]

May 1, 2018 21:45:29 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

I see this actress is 41 years old, and only 8 years older than the actress playing the middle sister. Not that this hasn't happened before dears for television shows or movies with casting for children and parents being so close in real life.

But crazy to think the actress playing the mother in the reboot is younger than Alyssa, Shannen, Holly or Rose dears.

It would make sense if she'd died early, like Patty did, but if she dies in the pilot, having the actress be that close in age without looking older is a bit weird. Although they made Jennifer look older in order to play Grams, so they might do the same thing here.

[Esmeralda]

Apr 29, 2018 23:31:03 GMT -5 gzv969 said:

I wasn’t sure this was shared anywhere on this board. But I came across this article link via Twitter by Cecily Grace Morgan, a writer at Warwick university. She had responded to an article that Marie Claire, who I follow, wrote on charmed. Marie Claire’s article was on what we know so far about the new charmed. Written for those who weren’t up to speed. But Cecile’s article was on all the reasons why we don’t need the reboot. And there were lots of interesting and some strong over the top responses to her.

www.marieclaire.com/culture/amp19863201/charmed-reboot-facts-spoilers-rumors-date-cast-news/?__twitter_impression=true

theboar.org/2018/04/dont-need-charmed-reboot/

Of all the comments to the "Don't Need Charmed Reboot" article, this one hit me the strongest:

Yikes, some of the pro reboot fans are insane, especially considering, well, a majority of the fanbase is NOT happy about the reboot and are pretty vocal about it. We didn’t like the previous attempts and don’t like this one either, nothing new. (I have to wonder if CW will ever get it through their heads that what fans actually want is the next generation spin-off.) It’s the minority of fans that want this, guys, did you somehow miss that?

But seriously, the more information is released, the more disgusting this thing gets. The fact that they called the LGBT sister’s sexuality a twist isn’t cool and neither is the fact that they described as literally nothing but the angry, violent lesbian feminist stereotype. Add in Ser’Darius Blain’s disgusting ableist comments and the fact that the pilot’s demon is a sexual harasser disguised as a professor and it was described as being “fun and contemporary with its social observations” by the producer, it’s honestly not something I understand why people want to support. That’s not even getting into how the network treated the original show, only to turn around now and milk it for cash. Or how about the CW’s treatment of LGBT, POC, or women on shows like Supernatural (constantly brutally killing off their LGBT, POC, or female characters to further straight white guy characters’ arcs) or Riverdale (a lot of their sexualizing teenage characters, disturbing characterization of LGBT characters, and a literal conversion camp storyline)? The idea that this reboot will be progressive or feminist at all, and especially in comparison to the original, is odd, considering every piece of information released thus far, the actors’ own comments, and the network itself.

Finding out that the pilot's demon is a sexual harasser disguised as a professor and that our lesbian sister is the typical angry, violent lesbian feminist stereotype very simply makes me shudder and tells me that as we guessed, they're just trying to cash in on the "#MeToo" movement.

Unless our new buddy w1llow can tell us that this person is way off-base, I no longer plan on watching the pilot.

[prudencehalliwell]

May 1, 2018 23:34:46 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

May 1, 2018 21:45:29 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

I see this actress is 41 years old, and only 8 years older than the actress playing the middle sister. Not that this hasn't happened before dears for television shows or movies with casting for children and parents being so close in real life.

But crazy to think the actress playing the mother in the reboot is younger than Alyssa, Shannen, Holly or Rose dears.

It would make sense if she'd died early, like Patty did, but if she dies in the pilot, having the actress be that close in age without looking older is a bit weird. Although they made Jennifer look older in order to play Grams, so they might do the same thing here.

It is a little weird, especially because she dies in the pilot, not when they were kids or younger. So perhaps as you said Es, they will do what they did with Jennifer. 

May 1, 2018 23:46:23 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Apr 29, 2018 23:31:03 GMT -5 gzv969 said:

I wasn’t sure this was shared anywhere on this board. But I came across this article link via Twitter by Cecily Grace Morgan, a writer at Warwick university. She had responded to an article that Marie Claire, who I follow, wrote on charmed. Marie Claire’s article was on what we know so far about the new charmed. Written for those who weren’t up to speed. But Cecile’s article was on all the reasons why we don’t need the reboot. And there were lots of interesting and some strong over the top responses to her.

www.marieclaire.com/culture/amp19863201/charmed-reboot-facts-spoilers-rumors-date-cast-news/?__twitter_impression=true

theboar.org/2018/04/dont-need-charmed-reboot/

Of all the comments to the "Don't Need Charmed Reboot" article, this one hit me the strongest:

Yikes, some of the pro reboot fans are insane, especially considering, well, a majority of the fanbase is NOT happy about the reboot and are pretty vocal about it. We didn’t like the previous attempts and don’t like this one either, nothing new. (I have to wonder if CW will ever get it through their heads that what fans actually want is the next generation spin-off.) It’s the minority of fans that want this, guys, did you somehow miss that?

But seriously, the more information is released, the more disgusting this thing gets. The fact that they called the LGBT sister’s sexuality a twist isn’t cool and neither is the fact that they described as literally nothing but the angry, violent lesbian feminist stereotype. Add in Ser’Darius Blain’s disgusting ableist comments and the fact that the pilot’s demon is a sexual harasser disguised as a professor and it was described as being “fun and contemporary with its social observations” by the producer, it’s honestly not something I understand why people want to support. That’s not even getting into how the network treated the original show, only to turn around now and milk it for cash. Or how about the CW’s treatment of LGBT, POC, or women on shows like Supernatural (constantly brutally killing off their LGBT, POC, or female characters to further straight white guy characters’ arcs) or Riverdale (a lot of their sexualizing teenage characters, disturbing characterization of LGBT characters, and a literal conversion camp storyline)? The idea that this reboot will be progressive or feminist at all, and especially in comparison to the original, is odd, considering every piece of information released thus far, the actors’ own comments, and the network itself.

Finding out that the pilot's demon is a sexual harasser disguised as a professor and that our lesbian sister is the typical angry, violent lesbian feminist stereotype very simply makes me shudder and tells me that as we guessed, they're just trying to cash in on the "#MeToo" movement.

Unless our new buddy w1llow can tell us that this person is way off-base, I no longer plan on watching the pilot.

Nope, I cannot stand that this is the demon they plan to use in the pilot. I'd much prefer it just be a demon disguised as a professor or a student. That is all you really need out of a pilot, like how they had a warlock disguised and being involved with a sister to get close to them. 

I really think this MeToo movement will have an influence on the reboot. 

[Granny Charmed]

May 1, 2018 23:34:46 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

May 1, 2018 21:45:29 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

I see this actress is 41 years old, and only 8 years older than the actress playing the middle sister. Not that this hasn't happened before dears for television shows or movies with casting for children and parents being so close in real life.

But crazy to think the actress playing the mother in the reboot is younger than Alyssa, Shannen, Holly or Rose dears.

It would make sense if she'd died early, like Patty did, but if she dies in the pilot, having the actress be that close in age without looking older is a bit weird. Although they made Jennifer look older in order to play Grams, so they might do the same thing here.

That's right dear, they certainly might do what they did with Jennifer on the reboot. I just wonder what role they plan on using the mother for later if she'll like Grams and Patty eventually appear as a ghost. I'm sure we'll be treated to flashbacks with the mother. 

Isn't she suppose to be a very powerful witch or something?

[Assassin Witch]

If the eldest is mid to late 20s amd Mom had her as a late teen, the actress isn't that out of age. A 41 year old playing a mid to late 40 year old isn't that bad.

[prudencehalliwell]

May 4, 2018 8:31:38 GMT -5 Assassin Witch said:

If the eldest is mid to late 20s amd Mom had her as a late teen, the actress isn't that out of age. A 41 year old playing a mid to late 40 year old isn't that bad.

That's true, just have to forget that the middle sister and the mother's actresses are eight years apart in real life. 


Finola Hughes
is actually 11 years older than Shannen in real life. But again, Patty died in her late 20s, so that casting isn't that off. But Finola was 39 when she first started Charmed playing someone a decade younger. 

So the reboot can just as easily cast the 41-year old actress as the mother playing someone who is in her mid to late 40s.  I'm convinced that the mother had her eldest daughter as a late teen or even 20 or 21 and add on about 25 years and that would make her about the mid-40s roughly. 

[Granny Charmed]

Wayward Sisters, Charmed, Roswell, In the Dark & The End of the World - Ordered to Series by CW?

www.spoilertv.com/2018/05/wayward-sisters-charmed-roswell-in-dark.html

Thanks to the detective work of our readers, we might now know which shows CW has ordered to series before they make the official announcement sometime this week.



When a network orders a pilot, they usually create a Twitter account to "book" the handle in case it does get ordered to series. Earlier today, CW updated a few of these accounts with the CW banner and bio. Twitter accounts for Wayward Sisters, Charmed, Roswell New Mexico, In the Dark, The End of the World As We Know it have all been updated, so we think those might have been ordered to series.



The Twitter accounts for Skinny Dip, Dead Inside and Playing Dead are still blank, so looks like those did not get ordered and were likely passed by CW.



Untitled April Blair (AKA Spencer) and the Hope Spinoff were untitled during pilot stage, so we are not sure of their Twitter handles, so those might or might not have been ordered too.

And according to my own detective work dears, CW ordered pilots this time last year. I'm convinced we'll get it by Friday officially. 

[cyma]

May 10, 2018 22:54:58 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

Wayward Sisters, Charmed, Roswell, In the Dark & The End of the World - Ordered to Series by CW?

www.spoilertv.com/2018/05/wayward-sisters-charmed-roswell-in-dark.html

Thanks to the detective work of our readers, we might now know which shows CW has ordered to series before they make the official announcement sometime this week.



When a network orders a pilot, they usually create a Twitter account to "book" the handle in case it does get ordered to series. Earlier today, CW updated a few of these accounts with the CW banner and bio. Twitter accounts for Wayward Sisters, Charmed, Roswell New Mexico, In the Dark, The End of the World As We Know it have all been updated, so we think those might have been ordered to series.



The Twitter accounts for Skinny Dip, Dead Inside and Playing Dead are still blank, so looks like those did not get ordered and were likely passed by CW.



Untitled April Blair (AKA Spencer) and the Hope Spinoff were untitled during pilot stage, so we are not sure of their Twitter handles, so those might or might not have been ordered too.

And according to my own detective work dears, CW ordered pilots this time last year. I'm convinced we'll get it by Friday officially. 

So does that mean few selected people might've watched the Charmed pilot and liked it? When can we expect trailers, reviews and the pilot itself?

[Assassin Witch]

Yeah, there is a tendency to pick up shows right before Upfronts.

Trailer will probably be around May 17 with the Upfront. They will announce their Fall schedule during Upfronts, which will tell us when the show will premiere. That's when you can watch the pilot.

[West]

tvline.com/2018/05/11/charmed-reboot-series-order-the-cw/

Here’s the official logline:

After the tragic death of their mother, three sisters in a college town are stunned to discover they are witches. Soon this powerful threesome must stand together to fight the everyday and supernatural battles that all modern witches must face: from vanquishing powerful demons to toppling the patriarchy.

–
Giving new meaning to “third time’s a charm,” this reboot has been attempted twice before — first for CBS in 2013, then again for The CW in 2017. That second attempt was to be set in the 1970s, centered around three women of no blood relation, an idea that was eventually tweaked to become the pilot that earned this series order.

The original Charmed ran for eight seasons (1998–2006) on The WB and starred the likes of Holly Marie Combs (Pretty Little Liars), Alyssa Milano (Mistresses), Rose McGowan (Citizen Rose) and Shannen Doherty (Beverly Hills, 90210).

I'm sorry for the Supernatural fans with Wayward Sisters being not picked up over Vampire Diaries getting a third spinoff.

But not that I expected it wouldn't be picked up. I wonder what day it airs. Find out next week at Upfronts.

[Assassin Witch]

They added a Sunday to their schedule. I would be shocked if Charmed doesn't return to its Sunday timeslot.

[gzv969]

There must be something awesome that CW sees in this that original fans aren’t seeing yet. For it to be picked up amidst all the negative reviews from former fans. Probably they are banking on a phenomenal premier rating from all the former fans that will tune in with all the buzz both out of curiosity and out of loyalty plus any new ones from this younger generation. CW probably is hoping many will stick with it and their won’t be as much of a steep decline after the first 2 or 3 episodes

[CharmedFaith]

CW is powered by seeing all these revivals and banking on nostalgia. The backlash is very minor when you look at the overall view of things. But here's to hoping that it's good and upfronts should be interesting since we should be getting a trailer.

[evegenia]

May 11, 2018 19:17:18 GMT -5 gzv969 said:

There must be something awesome that CW sees in this that original fans aren’t seeing yet. For it to be picked up amidst all the negative reviews from former fans. Probably they are banking on a phenomenal premier rating from all the former fans that will tune in with all the buzz both out of curiosity and out of loyalty plus any new ones from this younger generation. CW probably is hoping many will stick with it and their won’t be as much of a steep decline after the first 2 or 3 episodes

It's the power of the branding. When you say Charmed there's a chance that a normal casual viewer might've heard of it before hence they might check it. When you say Wayward Sisters to a casual viewer without SPN knowledge they'd say what's that?. Wayward SIsters will be titled as Wayward Sisters on blog and other sites and not as "SPN spin-off". What I'm saying is Charmed branding has that much of a draw that even a straight male who haven't watch the show would have a vague idea of it unlike when you say Wayward Sisters. You say Wayward Sisters? Are they sisters? No but the Charmed ones are.

Also if an old CBS IP like Dynasty is give a chance especially on CW then there's no way that Charmed won't given the same treatment. Unlike Dynasty, Charmed is right up CW" alley of genre fare with SPN,TVD Flash and etc. Dynasty fits more with the Ostroff years with Gossip Girls and 90210. Riverdale though might be too melodramatic for Ostroff's taste so I don't know if she would've be okay with that. She prefers rich teen white girl shows which Veronica doesn't fit into since she's Latina.

[Granny Charmed]

Well looks like we get our first look at the reboot next week with videos and a preview and finding out what day the reboot will air.

I have this feeling dears it might be Sunday or Thursday. Hoping it's Thursday or any other day, so the reboot can't begin Oct 7th for the big 20th of Classic Charmed.

My granddaughter pointed it to me that Dynasty a CBS show got a Netflix deal that already kept this show alive despite horrible ratings and got a second season. I'm assuming that because WB and CBS are part of CW, that CW needs more CBS shows to stick around. So I feel that the reboot will already most likely have a 22 episode commitment and CW is likely going to keep this show around, regardless if it gets bad ratings. Especially if this Dynasty series got bad ratings as I heard but stayed alive. I guess it depends if they get a Netflix deal in place too.

[CharmedFaith]

Very few shows on TheCW have 22 episodes. Out of 10, only 5 have 22/23 episodes. Since they have more shows then they have slots, Charmed will probably get 13-18.

[evegenia]

May 12, 2018 23:57:45 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Very few shows on TheCW have 22 episodes. Out of 10, only 5 have 22/23 episodes. Since they have more shows then they have slots, Charmed will probably get 13-18.

Both Jane and Dynasty got 22 in their 1st Season. It's not impossible considering this is a bigger brand than either of those 2. Not mention strong CBS politics on CW.

[SimplyAretha]

Jan 28, 2018 13:21:38 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Just saw something at a different site and it made me wonder.


The same site also mentioned how very *UNfeminist" Charmed was, especially once Kern took over. Could this be another reason our actresses can't get along - is Holly sticking up for Kern and his way of doing the alternate universe spin-off of Charmed where Holly starred (aka known as S4-8)? I think we all agree that there's no way we'd want that man anywhere near anything new that has something to do with Charmed! Maybe Holly thinks otherwise...

Agreed!!!

Feb 9, 2018 20:51:24 GMT -5 @deano said:

Feb 9, 2018 17:57:22 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Bring on the next (non-Halliwell) generation. 

I grew up watching Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige so they'll always be special to me but, quite frankly, I'm much more excited by the possibility of a new generation, MY generation, doing a better job of portraying female solidarity. Fingers crossed.

I hope so too. Female solidarity looked much different back then, and from the comments flung around between the original actresses, it looks like they really were great actresses; they pretended to get along.

I've seen the trailer and I'm not excited yet but I will reserve any final judgements until I watch the pilot.

I'll be happy enough if they stick to the original theme of Charmed, sisters that happen to be witches, and build from there.

And I disagree with the comments on marketing. If you agree or disagree with keeping the title, people are talking about it. And if I hadn't seen a post about dislike for the Charmed reboot. I wouldn't have even known that this reboot made it to actually premiering in the fall. Charmed as an audience, and here we are talking about it. Keeping the name was a good idea if only to get people talking about it - and we're all here participating int he discussion. And now here I am reading 20+ pages of conversations to be informed before I jump into the conversation.