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Post by Sasha on Sept 15, 2018 22:02:15 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing this across. I see most are still trying to figure it out. I have my own suggestion if that will be of use to you guys. 1) Paige knows that Peyton is inside Andrea, but the pair keeps up appearances with Peyton continuing to be Andrea around the other Warrens and act like regular old Andrea. Although I guess if she uses the Peyton adult shapeshift form, would her family recognize that she looks like an older version of Paige's daughter they think died? Maybe they are too busy to notice or figure out right away. 2) They do find out about Peyton and she does keep appearing as adult Peyton all the time, but just don't know she's taken the possession of Andrea. So Prudence is worried that Andrea isn't returning her calls, and they eventually put the two and two together. Maybe the question of Peyton can't be saved comes into question, but once they learn that she's inside Andrea, does that give Peyton a reason to escape and get out of dodge for a while, they can't bring themselves to kill her because if they did Andrea dies too. I really, *really* like your #2 suggestion, Sasha - it sounds more like Peyton and our Warrens. If anyone wants to try to figure a way of incorporating this idea into our Season Four and Five, go for it! I would guess that before Peyton appears to the Warrens as grownup Peyton (and we need to figure out how she explains THAT one...and we might pick up an idea from the comics by having Peyton say that when she crossed the veil on Halloween she joined with the body of a woman who's brain dead - I can see Paul Ruditis re-using that idea that he used to bring Prue back without having her look like Shannen, and that could indeed be exactly what Peyton does), she would appear as Andrea and tell the family that she's going back to Philadelphia. But it wouldn't make much sense for Andrea *not* to come back to Salem for Piper's trial. So that's when Peyton would have to play *both* roles and eventually one of the Warrens would realize that they never saw Peyton and Andrea in the same room at the same time... How's that?? Anyone like it, feel free to try adapting our Season 4/5 to include that - or use up some of our extra episodes in those seasons! I think that really would explain it well, and yes she would have to come back for the trial. I'm glad you liked my suggestion #2. So it would be perfect for them to be suspicions to occur and learn the truth then when Andrea and Peyton are not in the same room at the same time. Actually, I love this and it would make sense for Paul to pick up that idea since he wrote the comics. I sense another press release on our hands, Pheebs if you like the idea, go for it! One all about Peyton. I feel she's so important, that just doing one with hints about her return in S4, A casting for adult Peyton, of course, we wouldn't say who has been cast, but list it as TBD, or even one that announces it to not reveal it's Peyton, but just a casting call for a very important mysterious character in the second half of S4. |
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Post by Sasha on Sept 15, 2018 22:11:25 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: Oh, man, Sasha, did you ever! I hope this inspires other readers to put their own toe into our pool and give writing a press release a try! Anyone who's a member of the Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe!
This is so great, Sasha - about the only problem is that we set up in our more recently-edited versions of our backstory that Piper and Phoebe always spent Christmas in Warren Manor in Salem, so they would know who their grandmother, mother and aunt were - just not that they were witches. So I edited this to keep that in mind.
But I so love the idea of no magical baddies in a Christmas story!
PHEEBS: Love the way you laid out a reply, so decided to try it on more of my replies and see what others think. I LOVE so much of having no magical baddies, I just feel in a Christmas story, it fits. I'd hate to have some Grimling or Christmas creature getting in the way. The only acceptable thing would be a ghost, but even then I'm happy with what we have now.
ESMERALDA: Here's my edit:
ESMERALDA: So, Sasha, what do you think? I ended up changing it a bit more than I thought I would, but that's what came to mind. Also, if you'd prefer a different Charmed last name (really don't want anyone with just a single name - it's just not how reporters are given credit) like Sasha Charmed or Sasha Trudeau or Sasha Wyatt or Sasha Turner or even Sasha Zankou (I've been Esmeralda Zankou before...) or Sasha Gordon or Sasha Jenkins or some other such last name, let me know!
SASHA: I've seen Halliwell used already. I'm going to pick a different name just so we all have different last names. I pick Trudeau. As for the press release, I see you changed it, but I think you did a good job taking my ideas and turning it into something I can smile at. So good job!
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ESMERALDA: How 'bout the rest of you? Do you like Sasha's version better than this one?
I've gotta admit that I really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones who cause trouble. Since we have five seasons, I wonder if we can use something like this for one of the other Christmases - or is it better to just stick to one - this first one without Victor?
RUTH: Why not two Christmas episodes. One in S1 and one in S5 (we still need to add a few press releases to S5). I like the idea of two spread out. With all the drama that will go down in the final episodes, it could be a great one for our final standalone episode.
PHEEBS: Love the edit Es! I hope we do consider a second Christmas episode, and I like Ruth's suggestion of having it in the last season right before our final few episodes that would follow in January and February.
GRANNY: I *love* those suggestions dear. I also really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones to cause trouble. I think having two Christmases is fine, Especially is we have two Halloweens. Which I believe we now do, one in Season One and one in Season Four.
As for the edit, I think it came out nicely. You took Sasha's ideas and made a few changes, but it still feels like her original vision has come to life.
SASHA: Granny, put it best Es! I love the idea of another Christmas too.
Speaking of special occasions and such, I'd love a Valentines Day special that isn't just about who they are dating now, but who they lost. Something tied back to past loves, e.g Allen, Victor, Sam etc. even one which shows how Victor and Patty meet or something. Patience remembering Victor and Prudence remembering Allen. Unless someone has ideas for plots which includes one of the Warren's with a current love interest?
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Post by Sasha on Sept 15, 2018 22:47:12 GMT -5
I *love* this style of replying. Now I feel like dear, I won't be confused and can catch up easier.  I do like it this way. The quotes-in-quotes, just become a pain. Especially since so many of us are here. Sounds like a WONDERFUL idea, Summer, and I *love* what you came up with!
Since so many other people commented on this episode and I want to bring them all forward to this page before my edit, but I don't want to lose any if someone decides to reply to it (ProBoards and their stupid not allowing quotes-in-quotes), I decided to do this slightly differently. Feel free to do the same if you like the idea: While writing, I didn't even think I'd get a two-hour or two-parter, but when I ended up finishing it, I found I could go on? COLTON: WOW! just WOW! I love this Summer so much! I'm already on the edge of my seat wondering how they get back to the Manor (since we have no whitelighters and Paige is not an option due to the virus) and what happened to Prudence and Phoebe, did they get infected too. So many possibilities.  SUMMER: If you think it doesn't work as a two-parter/two-hour, feel free to change it, if you think it would make a better arc or even for season 2, since didn't we plan this season the time-travel with secrets, it could work as a fun end of season storyline for multiple episodes in S2, make it known? Again feel free to edit, ask questions or re-do? COLTON: Nope, it deserves more than one episode. I really liked it, if you have more to add to expand it beyond two episodes. I actually wonder now, if it should be part of our second season arc? Actually, that would make an even better second season cliffhanger Summer, since I was on the edge of my seat wondering what will happen next or how they get back to the Manor, and what happened to Prudence and Phoebe. That's how I'd love to see Season 2 end, with the plotline possibly resolved in a two-hour opener of Season Three. Of course, It changes the timeline of our series, since that is during or near the end of Summer. But I know we've had Charmed seasons end in August and start in October. So nothing we can't adjust. I hope you keep writing. I'm dying to know what happens next. RUTH: I'm with Colton. Keep writing! I do think that would be a great cliffhanger to Season 2 that resolves in S3 or an arc in S2 or one from S3 into S4. Lot's of choices. Unlike Classic Charmed's door closing. Maybe all seasons have a cliffhanger ending that carried a story into the next MARLENE: Having read it. I completely agree. It makes a great arc for EC. Actually what if Peyton wanted to wipe out all witches forever in the last episode. This could be how a Warren might die in the series finale. But I don't want to take away from other finale plots. This one just has the potential to be longer. I'm enjoying it Summer! PHEEBS: Like others suggested. That might work well as a story-arc. I do like that setup for S2's last episodes and resolving it at the start of S3. We haven't solved S3 yet maybe the threat they are up against in our time travel season of secrets has a third party secretly looking for this virus and finds it that sits a little to our third season finale and a plot that carries and resolves at the start of S4. Letting Season 1 and 2 stay stand-alone seasons. SUMMER: I'm thinking more and more this should be a little longer. Great suggestion Pheebs. I never would of thought of that. Also I agree to make the first season or even second standalone might be good. But if we find we have plenty of story for S3 with the time travel, I might put it into the end of S2/start of S3. I'll have to go back to the drawing board and see if I can work more and re-edit my press releases or just continue where I left off over the weekend. PHEEBS: That's okay.  I look forward to what you come up with next and where that story goes. Everyone here seems to love it. No doubt waiting in anticipation for the next part. ESMERALDA: I agree with everyone. Anyone who knows me knows I LOVE doing cliffhangers at the end of seasons - or the end of chapters when I'm helping someone write a story. So if we have one at the end of each season, that would be fantastic. And I agree that unless someone comes up with a better cliffhanger to come BEFORE this episode, these two should be the episodes that end Season Two - especially because, indeed, it will lead into summer. So I changed the season numbers, episode numbers and airing dates - you'll notice that rather than having air on the same date, I had them be a week apart - I thought Classic Charmed blew it by not doing it that way - but then they did it by adding an extra episode. No need for us to do that PHEEBS: I like it this way, and hope we continue our cliffhangers. What Classic Charmed struggled with always wanting the manor door to close every season, it meant limiting a cliffhanger to fit all around that door needing to close in some manner. Yup, no need for us to do it that way. I like that it is done like this. GRANNY: I *so* hope dears we do our cliffhangers. I don't think we need to worry about a manor door closing, I don't think that is necessary or wanted. If we *did*, then one episode is more than enough as a nod, but leave it at that. SASHA: I do love cliffhangers, especially since in the press releases I read and reviewed, those were the best part. I honestly loved S1 and S4. Now S2 has one, and we need S3 to have one. ------------------------------------------------------- ESMERALDA: I’m not sure whether this will become the Season Two cliffhanger or the Season Three one – I think we’ll have a better idea once we finish both seasons. I like the idea of Season One and Two being standalones while Season Three, Four and Five are story arcs and personally I think this one can easily lead into the time-travel season that we’ve discussed. If Mary Ann and Jenna didn’t keep showing up (and, of course, I want them to…), I’d hope we find out that Peyton is the reincarnation of Jenna (with her father also a warlock and Sam his reincarnation…) and Andrea is the reincarnation of Mary Ann, the reason Peyton decides to possess her. It would mean that if Peyton is around, Jenna couldn’t be and if Andrea is around, Mary Ann couldn’t be (another reason I chose them – easier to do if they’re not reincarnated as one of the Warren family). It probably won’t work with the way we have things set up – it might be something that I have to save for my fantasy version. But if anyone else likes the idea and wants to play with it – go for it! PHEEBS: Those ideas are great Es. Maybe someone can figure it or I can. But I think having it that way is easier to do if they're not reincarnated as one of the Warren family. ESMERALDA: Just one quick correction – unlike Piper Halliwell, Piper Warren would never hire a new head chef – she does all of the cooking at her restaurant herself – instead she needs a new manager who does all the stuff Piper Halliwell did so she couldn’t do any cooking. PHEEBS: Good correction. I just love having an editor to keep us on track guys. I'm sure Summer you just forgot unless you wanted Piper to take a step back for some reason if she is planning on opening up another restaurant somewhere else or went back to take care of San Francisco's location due to some matter needing her aid. GRANNY: Wouldn't that make a good story dears. Someone wants to write it, go for it! ------------------------------------------------------------------ ESMERALDA: Although there were a few things that rubbed me the wrong way. I may be thinking this wrong, and if I am, be sure to correct me. For the first time, I really don't like the title, but that’s not your fault, Summer – when you first came up with it, you didn’t know it would be two parts, and especially the season finale and not a new season premiere. But it totally gives away what’s going to happen, and even more important, what the decision talked about at the end of the first part is going to be – and ditto for the second part, letting “viewers” know what that choice is. That takes all the fun out of the cliffhanger. So I hope you like my change. If someone can come up with a better one – go for it! PHEEBS: That's true, no fault Summer. It does take the fun out of the cliffhanger. GRANNY: I like the title change. Maybe Summers title could work as the season three opener, but calling it "How Will We Survive Our Summer Vacation with a Virus, a Demoness of Destruction, Warlocks, and a Missing Warren". Might that title work to open up our third season? SASHA: That could work well for season 3's first episode. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ESMERALDA: Also, with what happens in the second part, I really don’t like Andrea being part of it. It would take time for Andrea to get to Salem and both the Warrens and the warlocks want to find a cure before either they get infected or Patience or Paige kills one of them. So since you only sent one warlock, I only sent one Warren...it just puts her in more danger. PHEEBS: I'll let Summer answer or comment here. ESMERALDA: Something else bothers me about the episodes. In our Charmedverse, unlike the real one which was a combination of both, depending upon what was needed in the episode, warlocks are *not* a race, just like witches aren’t. In ours, a warlock is what Connie Burge originally said they were - a witch who has killed. In ours, a warlock can become a witch by saving someone who is innocent of the existence of magic. Warlocks are multiple races, just like witches, hence why Wither Pox affects both. But obviously, there must be something different between the two that would allow the warlocks to destroy all witches without destroying all warlocks. I hope you like my explanation. PHEEBS: I'll let Summer answer or comment here. SASHA: I'm guessing something different about them to make it be different. I look forward to seeing what Es did! ------------------------------------------------------------------ ESMERALDA: By the way, I absolutely LOVE the idea of Wither Pox spreading through powers, but I’ve discovered that if you switch it so it’s when someone uses their powers against someone already infected that their own power becomes infected, it fits your plot better. So when the warlock used her power against Patience and Paige, that’s when her power became infected. In the same way, Patience and Paige used their power against the source – who I’ve named the Demoness of Destruction, since this sounds too big for a witch or a warlock to do – and that’s how they became infected. If anyone thinks I’m thinking wrong, be sure to tell me – this is too wonderful of a plot for some reader not to say, “Well, if the warlock used her powers against Prudence, Piper and Phoebe, why aren’t they sick?” I also took out the word "thrilling" - usually when an ad says something is going to be thrilling, it isn't. Let the press release speak for itself... PHEEBS: That is the best edit Es, that makes so much sense. Here are my edits: ESMERALDA: So? Especially you, Summer, what do you think? By the way, Summer, I haven't read any more past these comments, but I REALLY hope you continue your story so we can use your next story as the Season Three premiere. PHEEBS: I'm going to say I loved your edits, but one problem Es. Exactly the same thing you mentioned not wanting to reveal the cliffhanger in the title to Summer. The press release already gives away how they discovered how the disease is transmitted. Something Summer got right, mentioning it in the second part and not in part 1. I think mentioning it in part two is better. Viewers would find that about that until the conclusion of part 1, but a press release wouldn't want to give that away until after it is revealed in the next press release. SASHA: I have to agree with Pheebs here. I think Summer did do it better by mentioning that in Part 2. I liked reading it and guessing and wondering just what was the cause, and find out in part 2 how the disease is transmitted. ------------------------- PHEEBS: The part with the DNA is the best explanation Es. The Demoness of Destruction I love that SO much. So I guess Andrea can show up in Season Three's opener when she arrives since it will take time for her to do so unless Summer has other ideas for her. But I'd imagine she would be contacted to be warned. One of our earlier drafts for episodes gave Andrea having the power of Astral Projection, in an early outline for the Bridget story, in it when they got worried and wanted to warn the others of stealing powers (I'll have to find it), Andrea astral projected to the manor and found it empty and realized they were kidnapped. But I'm not so sure we want too many powers with getting places. Again typing this out, I don't like that idea at all, and don't like the idea of Andrea having that power and why it never came up again. Makes it too easy for our Warren's to contact her to astral and look for her? GRANNY: We didn't give Andrea her own power didn't we?; I'm not sure about Astral Projection though dear? It might take the fun out of it, and *no way* do I want Andrea astral projecting to the manor whenever she feels like it. I love her living away, and having to come by normal means, and since Paige is sick with 'Wither Pox', it's up to Andrea to come on her own. Actually, maybe she is taking care of her own situation where she lives, making sure to warn other witches about 'Wither Pox' before she arrives, or just plays phone-girl for updates and mentioned. I much prefer Andrea arriving in our Third Season opener in Salem, and then possibly being apart of the Phoebe rescue mission once she's arrived in Salem on finding her or whatever Summer decides happened to her. That works better for her to be included this way, so someone can mind Paige and Patience, while others go try and find Phoebe in the third season premiere. Again, just suggestions. I cannot wait to see what Summer decides in the follow-up storylines for this arc dears. SASHA: I didn't mind Andrea being around, but I agree with Es in that she is still trying to get to Salem. Her being busy trying to contain the 'Wither Pox' in Philadelphia, makes it even better. That the virus has spread across not just Salem but into other cities. I just wonder what you had in mind Summer, or if Andrea being included was just because she's family and concerned. I'd put her into S3's first episode. We can certainly hear her mentioned as the virus has started coming up in Philadelphia as well. I just don't like the idea of her having Astral Projection, again that means she'd be able to jump between cities, and that just doesn't appeal to me and takes all the excitement out of Phoebe's fate. We already have Paige. Now if you wanted to give Andrea a power, I'd hope it's pretty less big. Actually now here's another suggestion I just thought about right now. Didn't we have a plot where Andrea was sick in S2, and Prudence went to visit her with Patience? Now we certainly can have her being sick tied to the 'Wither Pox', and one coven member murdering another and blaming Patience, could be tied to them being in an advanced stage, and harming a loved one. But that would mean all the wonderful plots with Paige, Piper, and Phoebe in Salem might change, depending on how long it takes for the effects to come into play. So forget this idea. ------------------------ ESMERALDA: And Pheebs, if you want to do a Deadline press release for this - go for it! PHEEBS: That looks so much fun. A Deadline press release, possibly at a Paleyfeat panel which they do to promote the end of season storylines. I can't wait to reveal these. GRANNY: You're doing a great job dear, go for it! I always love your Deadline press releases. SASHA: It totally needs another of those lovely Deadline press releases you do Pheebs! 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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 16, 2018 0:02:53 GMT -5
WOW! You guys have really gone to town since I started our monthday anniversary thread – already up to NINETEEN pages! I’ve finally gotten a chance to post an update – first one since our first monthday anniversary and the first in this thread since Page 13!
If you haven’t had a chance to check out the update in the anniversary thread, you might notice that I had to change some of the episode numbers while I also matched up the numbers with their proper date. That’s because a number of the press releases used the same number for different episodes. I also based breaks on the dates for Classic Charmed’s breaks.
As always, feel free to ask questions, make suggestions or add new press releases of your own! Anyone who is a member of Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe! It's definitely the case of the more the merrier!
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Post by summerreading on Sept 16, 2018 1:19:35 GMT -5
WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast.
Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the 'Wither Pox' arc guys.
Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witches powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely?
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Post by Ruth Marie on Sept 16, 2018 5:05:09 GMT -5
Glad I re-read those updates Es. Things I noticed edited didn't recognize before. Like one episode Patience had a friend who knows the family secret tell her something important. I do like they have friends. Not wanting them to take over the show obviously but be nice if they appeared once or twice a season when needed for story. Than random people we never see again.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Sept 16, 2018 5:19:50 GMT -5
WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast. Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received. I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas. I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted. I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2. I'm curious about version 2 now. Summer. Yes we have really been getting along and done so much today. Here it is, the conclusion to the 'Wither Pox' arc guys.
RUTH: Wow what a season premiere. I'm glad it wasn't a 2-hour. Because then we'd lose that great cliffhanger. Loved it Summer. Wow! What a risk. Paige could be in big trouble teleporting. She'd be so weak or no powers soon. Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2: SUMMER: What do you think? I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure. Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton. RUTH: Well it is pretty major. I'm just in shock if it didn't work. I'd hate to think what happens with Phoebe and the others. No doubt they must be having it out, the affects really could drive Phoebe to be killed by Paige not Patience I feel. After all she's at the point of losing her powers now. ------------------ SUMMER:But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witches powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it. I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure. I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it! Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely? RUTH: I'm sure someone here can help more. I don't mind it. Maybe a little more insight into what happened in the leadup to when Phoebe would die? |
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Post by pheebs on Sept 16, 2018 10:05:48 GMT -5
Great job Es with the updates. I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 16, 2018 10:33:51 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: I also like what my friends and I call the skyscraper method of posting, which I think is the reason why ProBoards doesn't allow quotes-in-quotes - because the posts get so long - but when doing this much discussion with this many members, it makes a whole lot of sense to do it this way! As you can see, I put a line under each of my responses, so if anyone wants to reply to me, just put your reply above that line and each bit of conversation will stay together.
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SUMMER: WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast.
ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, you are so right about that one - but all of this discussion is just SO MUCH FUN! It's the fun of brainstorming, which is what this thread is all about. I just enjoy doing this so much more than just writing a story or an Episode Guide on my own. What I like best is we've yet to see anyone give someone a bad time because they don't agree with the other's ideas. This is all just brainstorming - sometimes the craziest idea will inspire the best storylines!
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SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys.
ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming work, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why!
But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT!
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ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, I love it! I absolutely LOVE it! I hope you like my edit, too. It means changing the previous one so that the fact that using your power against someone whose infected is the reason why you become infected isn't revealed until this episode, but that's no problem, since you guys are so right - it makes so much more sense to wait until this moment.
SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
SUMMER: What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches.
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SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think?
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SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help?
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SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers!
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SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode.
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SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely.
ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits.
Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'?
Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic!
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ESMERALDA: I also like what my friends and I call the skyscraper method of posting, which I think is the reason why ProBoards doesn't allow quotes-in-quotes - because the posts get so long - but when doing this much discussion with this many members, it makes a whole lot of sense to do it this way! As you can see, I put a line under each of my responses, so if anyone wants to reply to me, just put your reply above that line and each bit of conversation will stay together.
COLTON: Let's see if I can get the hang of it. It looks pretty straight forward.
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SUMMER: WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast.
ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, you are so right about that one - but all of this discussion is just SO MUCH FUN! It's the fun of brainstorming, which is what this thread is all about. I just enjoy doing this so much more than just writing a story or an Episode Guide on my own. What I like best is we've yet to see anyone give someone a bad time because they don't agree with the other's ideas. This is all just brainstorming - sometimes the craziest idea will inspire the best storylines!
COLTON: I love this. The more pages the funner it is. Glad this is still going strong.
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SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys.
ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming work, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why!
But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT!
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ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, I love it! I absolutely LOVE it! I hope you like my edit, too. It means changing the previous one so that the fact that using your power against someone whose infected is the reason why you become infected isn't revealed until this episode, but that's no problem, since you guys are so right - it makes so much more sense to wait until this moment.
COLTON: I LOVE THIS! Again I'm so very excited and that's one heck of a cliffhanger. This makes it more intense.
SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
SUMMER: What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches.
COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again!
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SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think?
COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale.
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SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help?
COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks end in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of a infected witch and warlock, blood of a non affected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens.
Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough?
Any other ideas everyone?
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SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers!
COLTON: What an idea!
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SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode.
COLTON: Me too for the other version.
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SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely.
ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits.
Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'?
Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic!
COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be ar least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode.
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Great job Es with the updates. I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? : Great job Pheebs! Although are you also doing a third press release for the Witcher Pox arc closer to it's airing in May 2020 or even one for S3's preview for the continued and story-arc? I'd even like one of those post season interviews with the writers talking about what lies ahead next season or even an episode? I'm sure you'll do great with those as always. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Sept 16, 2018 18:04:31 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: I also like what my friends and I call the skyscraper method of posting, which I think is the reason why ProBoards doesn't allow quotes-in-quotes - because the posts get so long - but when doing this much discussion with this many members, it makes a whole lot of sense to do it this way! As you can see, I put a line under each of my responses, so if anyone wants to reply to me, just put your reply above that line and each bit of conversation will stay together.
COLTON: Let's see if I can get the hang of it. It looks pretty straight forward.
GRANNY: I've used this before dears and it works so well.
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SUMMER: WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast.
ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, you are so right about that one - but all of this discussion is just SO MUCH FUN! It's the fun of brainstorming, which is what this thread is all about. I just enjoy doing this so much more than just writing a story or an Episode Guide on my own. What I like best is we've yet to see anyone give someone a bad time because they don't agree with the other's ideas. This is all just brainstorming - sometimes the craziest idea will inspire the best storylines!
COLTON: I love this. The more pages the funner it is. Glad this is still going strong.
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SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys.
ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming work, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why!
But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT!
GRANNY: Definitely agree dears. I think we might need to adjust a few if it is a longer arc now.
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ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, I love it! I absolutely LOVE it! I hope you like my edit, too. It means changing the previous one so that the fact that using your power against someone whose infected is the reason why you become infected isn't revealed until this episode, but that's no problem, since you guys are so right - it makes so much more sense to wait until this moment.
COLTON: I LOVE THIS! Again I'm so very excited and that's one heck of a cliffhanger. This makes it more intense.
GRANNY: I absolutely love this. Great job!
SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
SUMMER: What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches.
COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again!
GRANNY: We might be better saving that for the next. Maybe the power stripping part is only one part to a cure. And we need more than just that.
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SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think?
COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale.
GRANNY: We can just as easily pull S4's stories forward to accomodate these new ones dears maybe. Unless we find it just can't work. Or maybe even adjusting S4 and S5. So we *still* reach 100 episodes, but just make S4 shorter to add a few extra episodes to S5. But if that proves too difficult, let's hear other suggestions, what do others think?
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SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help?
COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks end in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of a infected witch and warlock, blood of a non affected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens.
Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough?
Any other ideas everyone?
GRANNY: That might work. I'm not sure what else dear, Unfortunately I can't think of anything right now.
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SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers!
COLTON: What an idea!
GRANNY: I love that dear.
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SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode.
COLTON: Me too for the other version.
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SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely.
ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits.
Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'?
Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic!
COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be ar least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode.
GRANNY: I totally love this as an arc for at least 5 or 6 episodes too.
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Post by pheebs on Sept 16, 2018 20:30:42 GMT -5
PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases.
PHEEBS: Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? COLTON: Great job Pheebs! Although are you also doing a third press release for the Witcher Pox arc closer to it's airing in May 2020 or even one for S3's preview for the continued and story-arc? I'd even like one of those postseason interviews with the writers talking about what lies ahead next season or even an episode? I'm sure you'll do great with those as always. PHEEBS: Your wish is my command Colton, those are exactly the type of press release I'm currently working on now. So they should be up fairly soon, or whenever I finish them for sharing.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Sept 17, 2018 4:17:04 GMT -5
Two new press releases. : YAY! RUTH: I love these Pheebs, great job as always with the deadline articles. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 17, 2018 7:40:29 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: Oh, man, Sasha, did you ever! I hope this inspires other readers to put their own toe into our pool and give writing a press release a try! Anyone who's a member of the Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe!
This is so great, Sasha - about the only problem is that we set up in our more recently-edited versions of our backstory that Piper and Phoebe always spent Christmas in Warren Manor in Salem, so they would know who their grandmother, mother and aunt were - just not that they were witches. So I edited this to keep that in mind.
But I so love the idea of no magical baddies in a Christmas story!
PHEEBS: Love the way you laid out a reply, so decided to try it on more of my replies and see what others think. I LOVE so much of having no magical baddies, I just feel in a Christmas story, it fits. I'd hate to have some Grimling or Christmas creature getting in the way. The only acceptable thing would be a ghost, but even then I'm happy with what we have now.
ESMERALDA: Here's my edit:
ESMERALDA: So, Sasha, what do you think? I ended up changing it a bit more than I thought I would, but that's what came to mind. Also, if you'd prefer a different Charmed last name (really don't want anyone with just a single name - it's just not how reporters are given credit) like Sasha Charmed or Sasha Trudeau or Sasha Wyatt or Sasha Turner or even Sasha Zankou (I've been Esmeralda Zankou before...) or Sasha Gordon or Sasha Jenkins or some other such last name, let me know!
SASHA: I've seen Halliwell used already. I'm going to pick a different name just so we all have different last names. I pick Trudeau. As for the press release, I see you changed it, but I think you did a good job taking my ideas and turning it into something I can smile at. So good job!
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ESMERALDA: How 'bout the rest of you? Do you like Sasha's version better than this one?
I've gotta admit that I really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones who cause trouble. Since we have five seasons, I wonder if we can use something like this for one of the other Christmases - or is it better to just stick to one - this first one without Victor?
RUTH: Why not two Christmas episodes. One in S1 and one in S5 (we still need to add a few press releases to S5). I like the idea of two spread out. With all the drama that will go down in the final episodes, it could be a great one for our final standalone episode.
PHEEBS: Love the edit Es! I hope we do consider a second Christmas episode, and I like Ruth's suggestion of having it in the last season right before our final few episodes that would follow in January and February.
GRANNY: I *love* those suggestions dear. I also really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones to cause trouble. I think having two Christmases is fine, Especially is we have two Halloweens. Which I believe we now do, one in Season One and one in Season Four.
As for the edit, I think it came out nicely. You took Sasha's ideas and made a few changes, but it still feels like her original vision has come to life.
SASHA: Granny, put it best Es! I love the idea of another Christmas too.
Speaking of special occasions and such, I'd love a Valentines Day special that isn't just about who they are dating now, but who they lost. Something tied back to past loves, e.g Allen, Victor, Sam etc. even one which shows how Victor and Patty meet or something. Patience remembering Victor and Prudence remembering Allen. Unless someone has ideas for plots which includes one of the Warren's with a current love interest?
ESMERALDA: Looking at my last update, I really don't think another Thanksgiving or Christmas episode will work for Season Five - December is right in the midst of Piper's trial AND Peyton's story and I just don't think it will fit. Few things I hate more than sticking a standalone in the middle of a very tense, dramatic story arc - one of the problems with story arcs. Depending upon what Summer decides to do with her Wither Pox story arc, either a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode following that may work a lot better.
Now Valentine's Day - with the Warrens remembering their past loves - could work great for Season Five, since it ends on February 16th, right near Valentine's Day and that final episode has yet to be written. Not sure how we'd combine Valentine's Day with wrapping up the Peyton/Andrea storyline, but possibly ending it with Piper and Matthew's wedding on Valentine's Day sounds wonderfully sappy to me!
Speaking of, right now Matthew is our only living love interest and I hope it remains that way throughout - I don't want to repeat Classic Charmed's mistake in letting Cole and Phoebe and then Piper and Leo take over the story making the other two as much costars as Darryl - a mistake that it looks like Rip-off Charmed is getting ready to do with giving everyone a love interest. So Prudence remembering Allen and Patience remembering Victor on the day that Piper gets married sounds wonderful.
Now introducing a past love who one of the Warrens gets back together with (prefer Paige...Phoebe's too busy with school, so we don't want her to have one and she's really too young to have a great love - unless she *thinks* she's had one, giving her someone to remember), letting him or her stick around for an episode or two, and then let him or her be the victim of a warlock and letting that Warren continue to mourn her lost love for the rest of the series (unlike Classic Charmed where except for Prue and Andy, she'd forget who's supposed to be her great love two episodes later when she jumps in bed with someone else...) , that would be a good one for her to remember.
Actually it's starting to set up where we have one holiday episode each season - Christmas in S1 and S3, Halloween in S1 and S4 and now Valentine's Day in S5, that would be perfect - more than enough holiday episodes - any more and they're no longer special the way these are/could be.
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Post by summerreading on Sept 17, 2018 7:50:36 GMT -5
I'd like to apologize for not coming on sooner (got caught up with some things) to post version 2. I already see more press releases and Es' edit.
Since Es did an edit to version 1 already, obviously this doesn't reflect a few of her changes. Had I been online sooner, I'd have amended stuff. So is basically my draft. Again, I haven't read properly all the suggestions you guys have made. But I'm so hoping we can come up with a better idea for the cure.
Feel free to edit, change, or change back to version 1, or Es' edits? Ask questions?
When I was writing this, I ended up realizing this sounded a lot like Peyton and Coven wanting to steal their powers in a way. But I left it in, just to see what you thought about it.
Because I feel I might have complicated it more (I certainly felt that way writing), or possibly found a way of merging Season 5's arc with this. If Peyton and the coven become these warlocks.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 17, 2018 8:11:40 GMT -5
PHEEBS: Great job Es with the updates. ESMERALDA: Thank you, Pheebs! --------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. ESMERALDA:So? What do you guys think. Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? [/quote]
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Post by summerreading on Sept 17, 2018 8:41:14 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: Oh, man, Sasha, did you ever! I hope this inspires other readers to put their own toe into our pool and give writing a press release a try! Anyone who's a member of the Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe!
This is so great, Sasha - about the only problem is that we set up in our more recently-edited versions of our backstory that Piper and Phoebe always spent Christmas in Warren Manor in Salem, so they would know who their grandmother, mother and aunt were - just not that they were witches. So I edited this to keep that in mind.
But I so love the idea of no magical baddies in a Christmas story!
PHEEBS: Love the way you laid out a reply, so decided to try it on more of my replies and see what others think. I LOVE so much of having no magical baddies, I just feel in a Christmas story, it fits. I'd hate to have some Grimling or Christmas creature getting in the way. The only acceptable thing would be a ghost, but even then I'm happy with what we have now.
ESMERALDA: Here's my edit:
ESMERALDA: So, Sasha, what do you think? I ended up changing it a bit more than I thought I would, but that's what came to mind. Also, if you'd prefer a different Charmed last name (really don't want anyone with just a single name - it's just not how reporters are given credit) like Sasha Charmed or Sasha Trudeau or Sasha Wyatt or Sasha Turner or even Sasha Zankou (I've been Esmeralda Zankou before...) or Sasha Gordon or Sasha Jenkins or some other such last name, let me know!
SASHA: I've seen Halliwell used already. I'm going to pick a different name just so we all have different last names. I pick Trudeau. As for the press release, I see you changed it, but I think you did a good job taking my ideas and turning it into something I can smile at. So good job!
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ESMERALDA: How 'bout the rest of you? Do you like Sasha's version better than this one?
I've gotta admit that I really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones who cause trouble. Since we have five seasons, I wonder if we can use something like this for one of the other Christmases - or is it better to just stick to one - this first one without Victor?
RUTH: Why not two Christmas episodes. One in S1 and one in S5 (we still need to add a few press releases to S5). I like the idea of two spread out. With all the drama that will go down in the final episodes, it could be a great one for our final standalone episode.
PHEEBS: Love the edit Es! I hope we do consider a second Christmas episode, and I like Ruth's suggestion of having it in the last season right before our final few episodes that would follow in January and February.
GRANNY: I *love* those suggestions dear. I also really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones to cause trouble. I think having two Christmases is fine, Especially is we have two Halloweens. Which I believe we now do, one in Season One and one in Season Four.
As for the edit, I think it came out nicely. You took Sasha's ideas and made a few changes, but it still feels like her original vision has come to life.
SASHA: Granny, put it best Es! I love the idea of another Christmas too.
Speaking of special occasions and such, I'd love a Valentines Day special that isn't just about who they are dating now, but who they lost. Something tied back to past loves, e.g Allen, Victor, Sam etc. even one which shows how Victor and Patty meet or something. Patience remembering Victor and Prudence remembering Allen. Unless someone has ideas for plots which includes one of the Warren's with a current love interest?
ESMERALDA: Looking at my last update, I really don't think another Thanksgiving or Christmas episode will work for Season Five - December is right in the midst of Piper's trial AND Peyton's story and I just don't think it will fit. Few things I hate more than sticking a standalone in the middle of a very tense, dramatic story arc - one of the problems with story arcs. Depending upon what Summer decides to do with her Wither Pox story arc, either a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode following that may work a lot better.
SUMMER: I'm thinking more and more, it won't fit at all. Too much going on, that it won't work. Now with the Wither Pox story, I do think to do it after that would fit. It just depends on the Wither Pox storyline and how the next parts of the arc play out and what I decide to do, which I'm going to sit on for a day or two, and see what feedback and inspiration I get, before doing part 4/episode 303 next.
With how much plots we have, it might not even work in Season 4. We have the second half been developed so far, but not the first half, apart from a Halloween episode. If we find we have more story to be added to S4 or S5, that might pull some of the missing episodes. That I think at this rate, fitting it in Season 3 might be the only option.
ESMERALDA: Now Valentine's Day - with the Warrens remembering their past loves - could work great for Season Five, since it ends on February 16th, right near Valentine's Day and that final episode has yet to be written. Not sure how we'd combine Valentine's Day with wrapping up the Peyton/Andrea storyline, but possibly ending it with Piper and Matthew's wedding on Valentine's Day sounds wonderfully sappy to me!
SUMMER: That actually isn't a bad idea to end it on Valentine's Day. Nobody says both Piper and Matthew don't just decide to pull their wedding date forward.
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ESMERALDA: Speaking of, right now Matthew is our only living love interest and I hope it remains that way throughout - I don't want to repeat Classic Charmed's mistake in letting Cole and Phoebe and then Piper and Leo take over the story making the other two as much costars as Darryl - a mistake that it looks like Rip-off Charmed is getting ready to do with giving everyone a love interest. So Prudence remembering Allen and Patience remembering Victor on the day that Piper gets married sounds wonderful.
Now introducing a past love who one of the Warrens gets back together with (prefer Paige...Phoebe's too busy with school, so we don't want her to have one and she's really too young to have a great love - unless she *thinks* she's had one, giving her someone to remember), letting him or her stick around for an episode or two, and then let him or her be the victim of a warlock and letting that Warren continue to mourn her lost love for the rest of the series (unlike Classic Charmed where except for Prue and Andy, she'd forget who's supposed to be her great love two episodes later when she jumps in bed with someone else...) , that would be a good one for her to remember.
SUMMER: That sounds very sweet for them to remember on Piper's wedding day. I like those suggestions Es, and I find it fits Paige for the past love that dies.
Although maybe, the series can end with hints that Paige is willing to try and find love again, we don't see it that would be up to the reader to imagine when the series over, just where we leave her story when the series ends. After all, she has been through, to give her that happy note, unless of course, Peyton doesn't die in the end, or we find a way to bring her back to being a witch again.
Actually wondering, if perhaps Paige could die, she dies in the hopes that her death would motivate her to want to be good again, and what pushes her to save an innocent and become a witch again. Although I'm not sure how that would be possible if she's possessing Andrea.
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ESMERALDA: Actually it's starting to set up where we have one holiday episode each season - Christmas in S1 and S3, Halloween in S1 and S4 and now Valentine's Day in S5, that would be perfect - more than enough holiday episodes - any more and they're no longer special the way these are/could be.
SUMMER: Es I think the setup you have is perfect. I love this so much, let's do this. You have perfectly mapped it all out so well. Not to mention we have birthday episodes, and now everyone but Prudence and Patience has had one. I'm wondering if we don't show Prudence or Patience, or let each Warren have just one devoted to them.
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 17, 2018 9:47:23 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: I also like what my friends and I call the skyscraper method of posting, which I think is the reason why ProBoards doesn't allow quotes-in-quotes - because the posts get so long - but when doing this much discussion with this many members, it makes a whole lot of sense to do it this way! As you can see, I put a line under each of my responses, so if anyone wants to reply to me, just put your reply above that line and each bit of conversation will stay together.
COLTON: Let's see if I can get the hang of it. It looks pretty straightforward.
GRANNY: I've used this before dears and it works so well.
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SUMMER: WOW! Already on page 19, and I last replied was when we were on page 17. Now it's 19, in under 24 hours. You guys move so fast.
ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, you are so right about that one - but all of this discussion is just SO MUCH FUN! It's the fun of brainstorming, which is what this thread is all about. I just enjoy doing this so much more than just writing a story or an Episode Guide on my own. What I like best is we've yet to see anyone give someone a bad time because they don't agree with the other's ideas. This is all just brainstorming - sometimes the craziest idea will inspire the best storylines!
COLTON: I love this. The more pages the more fun it is. Glad this is still going strong.
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SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys.
ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming work, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why!
But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT!
GRANNY: Definitely agree on that dears. I think we might need to adjust a few if it is a longer arc now.
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ESMERALDA: Oh, Summer, I love it! I absolutely LOVE it! I hope you like my edit, too. It means changing the previous one so that the fact that using your power against someone whose infected is the reason why you become infected isn't revealed until this episode, but that's no problem, since you guys are so right - it makes so much more sense to wait until this moment.
COLTON: I LOVE THIS! Again I'm so very excited and that's one heck of a cliffhanger. This makes it more intense.
GRANNY: I absolutely love this. Great job!
SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
SUMMER: What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches.
COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again!
GRANNY: We might be better saving that for the next. Maybe the power stripping part is only one part to a cure. And we need more than just that.
PRUDENCE: I don't think that is a solution too. Although I really think Andrea taking a power stripping potion is so dramatic, and wonderful.
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SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think?
COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale.
GRANNY: We can just as easily pull S4's stories forward to work these new ones dears maybe. Unless we find it just can't work. Or maybe even adjusting S4 and S5. So we *still* reach 100 episodes, but just make S4 shorter to add a few extra episodes to S5. But if that proves too difficult, let's hear other suggestions, what do others think?
PRUDENCE: That we could guys. Then we'd need to figure out, what to do with what we have now. I'm thinking we could just wrap up the arc, with Andrea/Peyton and the coven where they steal their powers and use the law to get back at them, and then finding a way to lead that into this story.
I guess we could go back to Bridget and the coven, but then we'd have Bridget betraying Prudence as an arc, and then we'd not be able to again have Peyton possessing Andrea. Cant see two stories with coven members being the big bad, although in Andreas case she really isn't. That means also, no Bridget death framed by Peyton. Which I totally loved.
Unless the whole possession arc is just pulled forward a season, and Peyton gets out of dodge for a while, and returns during the Wither Pox arc.
What do you all think? Maybe we should let Summer play out the rest of this arc where we have it, and once she finishes the arc with press releases, then go from here?
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SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately, I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help?
COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks ends in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of an infected witch and warlock, blood of a nonaffected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens.
Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough?
Any other ideas everyone?
GRANNY: That might work. I'm not sure what else dear, Unfortunately, I can't think of anything right now.
PRUDENCE: Well that could be another mission for the Warren's, but with how the story has progressed. Going to find an ancestor, would mean Phoebe is dead already and the others will be so affected. Time is running out so much, that I'd imagine this whole arc, would be only a few days covered across 4 episodes. Which I like because it makes the suspense greater.
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SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers!
COLTON: What an idea!
GRANNY: I love that dear.
PRUDENCE: WOW! We may have found a way for her to get all of them if she wanted. Also being a Warren, wouldn't her body be able to handle the powers, unlike any other normal witch where it wouldn't work. After all, Peyton was originally an Elemental.
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SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode.
COLTON: Me too for the other version.
PRUDENCE: I see Summer posted it now. But I don't have time right now to read it, since updating with these earlier replies.
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SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely.
ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits.
Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'?
Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic!
COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be at least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode.
GRANNY: I totally love this as an arc for at least 5 or 6 episodes too.
PRUDENCE: Me too! I think with what we have, let us go an extra episode or two.
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