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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 17, 2018 9:49:09 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: Oh, man, Sasha, did you ever! I hope this inspires other readers to put their own toe into our pool and give writing a press release a try! Anyone who's a member of the Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe!
This is so great, Sasha - about the only problem is that we set up in our more recently-edited versions of our backstory that Piper and Phoebe always spent Christmas in Warren Manor in Salem, so they would know who their grandmother, mother and aunt were - just not that they were witches. So I edited this to keep that in mind.
But I so love the idea of no magical baddies in a Christmas story!
PHEEBS: Love the way you laid out a reply, so decided to try it on more of my replies and see what others think. I LOVE so much of having no magical baddies, I just feel in a Christmas story, it fits. I'd hate to have some Grimling or Christmas creature getting in the way. The only acceptable thing would be a ghost, but even then I'm happy with what we have now.
PRUDENCE: I don't want any creatures on Halloween, that might work for a show like Supernatural or something, but not EC. What Sasha did with no magical baddies, is totally perfect!
ESMERALDA: Here's my edit:
ESMERALDA: So, Sasha, what do you think? I ended up changing it a bit more than I thought I would, but that's what came to mind. Also, if you'd prefer a different Charmed last name (really don't want anyone with just a single name - it's just not how reporters are given credit) like Sasha Charmed or Sasha Trudeau or Sasha Wyatt or Sasha Turner or even Sasha Zankou (I've been Esmeralda Zankou before...) or Sasha Gordon or Sasha Jenkins or some other such last name, let me know!
SASHA: I've seen Halliwell used already. I'm going to pick a different name just so we all have different last names. I pick Trudeau. As for the press release, I see you changed it, but I think you did a good job taking my ideas and turning it into something I can smile at. So good job!
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ESMERALDA: How 'bout the rest of you? Do you like Sasha's version better than this one?
I've gotta admit that I really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones who cause trouble. Since we have five seasons, I wonder if we can use something like this for one of the other Christmases - or is it better to just stick to one - this first one without Victor?
RUTH: Why not two Christmas episodes. One in S1 and one in S5 (we still need to add a few press releases to S5). I like the idea of two spread out. With all the drama that will go down in the final episodes, it could be a great one for our final standalone episode.
PHEEBS: Love the edit Es! I hope we do consider a second Christmas episode, and I like Ruth's suggestion of having it in the last season right before our final few episodes that would follow in January and February.
GRANNY: I *love* those suggestions dear. I also really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones to cause trouble. I think having two Christmases is fine, Especially is we have two Halloweens. Which I believe we now do, one in Season One and one in Season Four.
As for the edit, I think it came out nicely. You took Sasha's ideas and made a few changes, but it still feels like her original vision has come to life.
SASHA: Granny, put it best Es! I love the idea of another Christmas too.
PRUDENCE: Me too. But no more than two, or that will push it.
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SASHA: Speaking of special occasions and such, I'd love a Valentines Day special that isn't just about who they are dating now, but who they lost. Something tied back to past loves, e.g Allen, Victor, Sam etc. even one which shows how Victor and Patty meet or something. Patience remembering Victor and Prudence remembering Allen. Unless someone has ideas for plots which includes one of the Warren's with a current love interest?
ESMERALDA: Looking at my last update, I really don't think another Thanksgiving or Christmas episode will work for Season Five - December is right in the midst of Piper's trial AND Peyton's story and I just don't think it will fit. Few things I hate more than sticking a standalone in the middle of a very tense, dramatic story arc - one of the problems with story arcs. Depending upon what Summer decides to do with her Wither Pox story arc, either a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode following that may work a lot better.
SUMMER: I'm thinking more and more, it won't fit at all. Too much going on, that it won't work. Now with the Wither Pox story, I do think to do it after that would fit. It just depends on the Wither Pox storyline and how the next parts of the arc play out and what I decide to do, which I'm going to sit on for a day or two, and see what feedback and inspiration I get, before doing part 4/episode 303 next.
With how much plots we have, it might not even work in Season 4. We have the second half been developed so far, but not the first half, apart from a Halloween episode. If we find we have more story to be added to S4 or S5, that might pull some of the missing episodes. That I think at this rate, fitting it in Season 3 might be the only option.
PRUDENCE: I forgot about that and since Season 5 is short, it would be even worse. Maybe if we had 22 episodes, but we have 12. I don't think it will work at all.
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ESMERALDA: Now Valentine's Day - with the Warrens remembering their past loves - could work great for Season Five, since it ends on February 16th, right near Valentine's Day and that final episode has yet to be written. Not sure how we'd combine Valentine's Day with wrapping up the Peyton/Andrea storyline, but possibly ending it with Piper and Matthew's wedding on Valentine's Day sounds wonderfully sappy to me!
SUMMER: That actually isn't a bad idea to end it on Valentine's Day. Nobody says both Piper and Matthew don't just decide to pull their wedding date forward.
PRUDENCE: That sounds so sweet to me. I'd say even having the wedding being Valentine's Day is perfect, with the Peyton/Andrea action being wrapped before it, and since we have a story arc, I imagine it doesn't line up perfectly with February 14, that might even according to a timeline or something be earlier. So we could even have a short one-week time-jump to Valentine's Day a week following the conclusion of the Peyton/Andrea storyline to end the series.
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ESMERALDA: Speaking of, right now Matthew is our only living love interest and I hope it remains that way throughout - I don't want to repeat Classic Charmed's mistake in letting Cole and Phoebe and then Piper and Leo take over the story making the other two as much costars as Darryl - a mistake that it looks like Rip-off Charmed is getting ready to do with giving everyone a love interest. So Prudence remembering Allen and Patience remembering Victor on the day that Piper gets married sounds wonderful.
Now introducing a past love who one of the Warrens gets back together with (prefer Paige...Phoebe's too busy with school, so we don't want her to have one and she's really too young to have a great love - unless she *thinks* she's had one, giving her someone to remember), letting him or her stick around for an episode or two, and then let him or her be the victim of a warlock and letting that Warren continue to mourn her lost love for the rest of the series (unlike Classic Charmed where except for Prue and Andy, she'd forget who's supposed to be her great love two episodes later when she jumps in bed with someone else...) , that would be a good one for her to remember.
SUMMER: That sounds very sweet for them to remember on Piper's wedding day. I like those suggestions Es, and I find it fits Paige for the past love that dies.
Although maybe, the series can end with hints that Paige is willing to try and find love again, we don't see it that would be up to the reader to imagine when the series over, just where we leave her story when the series ends. After all, she has been through, to give her that happy note, unless of course, Peyton doesn't die in the end, or we find a way to bring her back to being a witch again.
Actually wondering, if perhaps Paige could die, she dies in the hopes that her death would motivate her to want to be good again, and what pushes her to save an innocent and become a witch again. Although I'm not sure how that would be possible if she's possessing Andrea.
PRUDENCE: A sad ending, but one I can accept for Paige dying, only if it were to play a part in redeeming Peyton. Again since she is possessing Andrea, I don't know how that is possible.
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ESMERALDA: Actually it's starting to set up where we have one holiday episode each season - Christmas in S1 and S3, Halloween in S1 and S4 and now Valentine's Day in S5, that would be perfect - more than enough holiday episodes - any more and they're no longer special the way these are/could be.
SUMMER: Es I think the setup you have is perfect. I love this so much, let's do this. You have perfectly mapped it all out so well. Not to mention we have birthday episodes, and now everyone but Prudence and Patience has had one. I'm wondering if we don't show Prudence or Patience, or let each Warren have just one devoted to them.
PRUDENCE: I like this too!
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 17, 2018 9:58:15 GMT -5
PHEEBS: Great job Es with the updates.   Thank you, Pheebs! --------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. PRUDENCE: I can see we all have had this problem here, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I have come across some real press releases like that before, but again not many. First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. ESMERALDA:So? What do you guys think. Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... PRUDENCE: I can see you had fun with it. The part with mentioning Classic Charmed and Elemental Charmed comparisons might be the only part, I think might not work for a press release. But I'm not too fussed either way, its a point where Connie admits what went wrong, but because she wasn't apart of those seasons, I'm not sure. What about the rest? Apart from that great job Es and Pheebs! Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? |
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Post by pheebs on Sept 17, 2018 20:55:57 GMT -5
PHEEBS: Great job Es with the updates. ESMERALDA: Thank you, Pheebs! --------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. PRUDENCE: I can see we all have had this problem here, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I have come across some real press releases like that before, but again not many. PHEEBS: Thanks Es for this. I since edited my own titles from yesterday. Hoping they are better? ESMERALDA: First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. PHEEBS: ESMERALDA:So? What do you guys think. Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... PRUDENCE: I can see you had fun with it. The part with mentioning Classic Charmed and Elemental Charmed comparisons might be the only part, I think might not work for a press release. But I'm not too fussed either way, its a point where Connie admits what went wrong, but because she wasn't apart of those seasons, I'm not sure. What about the rest? Apart from that great job Es and Pheebs! PHEEBS: I actually think it's fine, maybe just a little word change slightly. But it makes sense to admit what they like to not do. I like that she does point out something like that. Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? |
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Post by pheebs on Sept 17, 2018 21:05:27 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: Oh, man, Sasha, did you ever! I hope this inspires other readers to put their own toe into our pool and give writing a press release a try! Anyone who's a member of the Charmed Cafe is more than welcomed to become a member of Team Charmed Cafe! This is so great, Sasha - about the only problem is that we set up in our more recently-edited versions of our backstory that Piper and Phoebe always spent Christmas in Warren Manor in Salem, so they would know who their grandmother, mother and aunt were - just not that they were witches. So I edited this to keep that in mind. But I so love the idea of no magical baddies in a Christmas story! PHEEBS: Love the way you laid out a reply, so decided to try it on more of my replies and see what others think. I LOVE so much of having no magical baddies, I just feel in a Christmas story, it fits. I'd hate to have some Grimling or Christmas creature getting in the way. The only acceptable thing would be a ghost, but even then I'm happy with what we have now. PRUDENCE: I don't want any creatures on Halloween, that might work for a show like Supernatural or something, but not EC. What Sasha did with no magical baddies, is totally perfect! ESMERALDA: Here's my edit: ESMERALDA: So, Sasha, what do you think? I ended up changing it a bit more than I thought I would, but that's what came to mind. Also, if you'd prefer a different Charmed last name (really don't want anyone with just a single name - it's just not how reporters are given credit) like Sasha Charmed or Sasha Trudeau or Sasha Wyatt or Sasha Turner or even Sasha Zankou (I've been Esmeralda Zankou before...) or Sasha Gordon or Sasha Jenkins or some other such last name, let me know! SASHA: I've seen Halliwell used already. I'm going to pick a different name just so we all have different last names. I pick Trudeau. As for the press release, I see you changed it, but I think you did a good job taking my ideas and turning it into something I can smile at. So good job! ------------------------------------
ESMERALDA: How 'bout the rest of you? Do you like Sasha's version better than this one? I've gotta admit that I really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones who cause trouble. Since we have five seasons, I wonder if we can use something like this for one of the other Christmases - or is it better to just stick to one - this first one without Victor? RUTH: Why not two Christmas episodes. One in S1 and one in S5 (we still need to add a few press releases to S5). I like the idea of two spread out. With all the drama that will go down in the final episodes, it could be a great one for our final standalone episode. PHEEBS: Love the edit Es! I hope we do consider a second Christmas episode, and I like Ruth's suggestion of having it in the last season right before our final few episodes that would follow in January and February. GRANNY: I *love* those suggestions dear. I also really like the idea of Piper and Phoebe becoming the ones to cause trouble. I think having two Christmases is fine, Especially is we have two Halloweens. Which I believe we now do, one in Season One and one in Season Four. As for the edit, I think it came out nicely. You took Sasha's ideas and made a few changes, but it still feels like her original vision has come to life. SASHA: Granny, put it best Es! I love the idea of another Christmas too. PRUDENCE: Me too. But no more than two, or that will push it. ------------------------------------ SASHA: Speaking of special occasions and such, I'd love a Valentines Day special that isn't just about who they are dating now, but who they lost. Something tied back to past loves, e.g Allen, Victor, Sam etc. even one which shows how Victor and Patty meet or something. Patience remembering Victor and Prudence remembering Allen. Unless someone has ideas for plots which includes one of the Warren's with a current love interest? ESMERALDA: Looking at my last update, I really don't think another Thanksgiving or Christmas episode will work for Season Five - December is right in the midst of Piper's trial AND Peyton's story and I just don't think it will fit. Few things I hate more than sticking a standalone in the middle of a very tense, dramatic story arc - one of the problems with story arcs. Depending upon what Summer decides to do with her Wither Pox story arc, either a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode following that may work a lot better. SUMMER: I'm thinking more and more, it won't fit at all. Too much going on, that it won't work. Now with the Wither Pox story, I do think to do it after that would fit. It just depends on the Wither Pox storyline and how the next parts of the arc play out and what I decide to do, which I'm going to sit on for a day or two, and see what feedback and inspiration I get, before doing part 4/episode 303 next. With how much plots we have, it might not even work in Season 4. We have the second half been developed so far, but not the first half, apart from a Halloween episode. If we find we have more story to be added to S4 or S5, that might pull some of the missing episodes. That I think at this rate, fitting it in Season 3 might be the only option. PRUDENCE: I forgot about that and since Season 5 is short, it would be even worse. Maybe if we had 22 episodes, but we have 12. I don't think it will work at all. ------------------------------------ ESMERALDA: Now Valentine's Day - with the Warrens remembering their past loves - could work great for Season Five, since it ends on February 16th, right near Valentine's Day and that final episode has yet to be written. Not sure how we'd combine Valentine's Day with wrapping up the Peyton/Andrea storyline, but possibly ending it with Piper and Matthew's wedding on Valentine's Day sounds wonderfully sappy to me! SUMMER: That actually isn't a bad idea to end it on Valentine's Day. Nobody says both Piper and Matthew don't just decide to pull their wedding date forward. PRUDENCE: That sounds so sweet to me. I'd say even having the wedding being Valentine's Day is perfect, with the Peyton/Andrea action being wrapped before it, and since we have a story arc, I imagine it doesn't line up perfectly with February 14, that might even according to a timeline or something be earlier. So we could even have a short one-week time-jump to Valentine's Day a week following the conclusion of the Peyton/Andrea storyline to end the series. PHEEBS: I really like that. I can do that when I get around to doing a timeline and working out dates. But a little time-jump to the wedding is great. ------------------------------------ ESMERALDA: Speaking of, right now Matthew is our only living love interest and I hope it remains that way throughout - I don't want to repeat Classic Charmed's mistake in letting Cole and Phoebe and then Piper and Leo take over the story making the other two as much costars as Darryl - a mistake that it looks like Rip-off Charmed is getting ready to do with giving everyone a love interest. So Prudence remembering Allen and Patience remembering Victor on the day that Piper gets married sounds wonderful. Now introducing a past love who one of the Warrens gets back together with (prefer Paige...Phoebe's too busy with school, so we don't want her to have one and she's really too young to have a great love - unless she *thinks* she's had one, giving her someone to remember), letting him or her stick around for an episode or two, and then let him or her be the victim of a warlock and letting that Warren continue to mourn her lost love for the rest of the series (unlike Classic Charmed where except for Prue and Andy, she'd forget who's supposed to be her great love two episodes later when she jumps in bed with someone else...) , that would be a good one for her to remember. SUMMER: That sounds very sweet for them to remember on Piper's wedding day. I like those suggestions Es, and I find it fits Paige for the past love that dies. Although maybe, the series can end with hints that Paige is willing to try and find love again, we don't see it that would be up to the reader to imagine when the series over, just where we leave her story when the series ends. After all, she has been through, to give her that happy note, unless of course, Peyton doesn't die in the end, or we find a way to bring her back to being a witch again. Actually wondering, if perhaps Paige could die, she dies in the hopes that her death would motivate her to want to be good again, and what pushes her to save an innocent and become a witch again. Although I'm not sure how that would be possible if she's possessing Andrea. PRUDENCE: A sad ending, but one I can accept for Paige dying, only if it were to play a part in redeeming Peyton. Again since she is possessing Andrea, I don't know how that is possible.
PHEEBS: We haven't thought about that. But Paige's happy ending or coming to terms with all her looses, and considering that in the near future. maybe. But it is Piper's special day, maybe let viewers decide what happened after the ending. ------------------------------------ESMERALDA: Actually it's starting to set up where we have one holiday episode each season - Christmas in S1 and S3, Halloween in S1 and S4 and now Valentine's Day in S5, that would be perfect - more than enough holiday episodes - any more and they're no longer special the way these are/could be. SUMMER: Es I think the setup you have is perfect. I love this so much, let's do this. You have perfectly mapped it all out so well. Not to mention we have birthday episodes, and now everyone but Prudence and Patience has had one. I'm wondering if we don't show Prudence or Patience, or let each Warren have just one devoted to them. PRUDENCE: I like this too! PHEEBS: Like this idea. |
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Post by Sasha on Sept 17, 2018 21:35:51 GMT -5
PHEEBS: Great job Es with the updates. ESMERALDA: Thank you, Pheebs! --------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. PRUDENCE: I can see we all have had this problem here, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I have come across some real press releases like that before, but again not many. PHEEBS: Thanks Es for this. I since edited my own titles from yesterday. Hoping they are better? ESMERALDA: First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. PHEEBS: ESMERALDA:So? What do you guys think. Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... PRUDENCE: I can see you had fun with it. The part with mentioning Classic Charmed and Elemental Charmed comparisons might be the only part, I think might not work for a press release. But I'm not too fussed either way, its a point where Connie admits what went wrong, but because she wasn't apart of those seasons, I'm not sure. What about the rest? Apart from that great job Es and Pheebs! PHEEBS: I actually think it's fine, maybe just a little word change slightly. But it makes sense to admit what they like to not do. I like that she does point out something like that. SASHA: I loved this press release. What a way to take make fun of Kern. I got a good laugh with that one. Now if it should be included or would that be considered a fantasy comment? But I really like it. Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? |
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Post by Sasha on Sept 17, 2018 21:42:35 GMT -5
Two new press releases.  EDIT: Made a small edit from when I posted it yesterday. RUTH: I love these Pheebs, great job as always with the deadline articles. SASHA: Great job putting these together. Also cool interview. I hope you do more interview style press releases in the future with Q&A's. Even ones with the writers talking about the episodes they wrote, and not just Connie. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 2:32:33 GMT -5
--------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. PRUDENCE: I can see we all have had this problem here, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I have come across some real press releases like that before, but again not many. PHEEBS: Thanks Es for this. I since edited my own titles from yesterday. Hoping they are better? ESMERALDA: Better, Pheebs, but as you'll see, I still edited both of them. ----------------------------- ESMERALDA: First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. PHEEBS: ESMERALDA: So? What do you guys think? Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... PRUDENCE: I can see you had fun with it. The part with mentioning Classic Charmed and Elemental Charmed comparisons might be the only part, I think might not work for a press release. But I'm not too fussed either way, its a point where Connie admits what went wrong, but because she wasn't apart of those seasons, I'm not sure. What about the rest? Apart from that great job Es and Pheebs! PHEEBS: I actually think it's fine, maybe just a little word change slightly. But it makes sense to admit what they like to not do. I like that she does point out something like that. SASHA: I loved this press release. What a way to take make fun of Kern. I got a good laugh with that one. Now if it should be included or would that be considered a fantasy comment? But I really like it. ESMERALDA: Thanks, guys - I really like it, too, but I do wonder if it's a bit too much of an Es-fantasy line and not truly something Connie would say. After all, she wasn't part of the Cole-Phoebe storyline that took over S3 and S4 or the Piper-Leo-Wyatt-Chris ones that took over S5-7 or the Billie-Christy one that took over S7. Now she *was* part of that horrible S2 triangle, so if someone wants to figure a way for her to comment on that, that would be great. As is, I do think it's better if I take out my fun and return Pheebs' line. It said what we wanted it to say, but, well, sneakier! So here's my new edit: ESMERALDA: So? What do you guys think now? And here's my edit for Pheebs' other Deadline press release: So? How's that? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 3:38:44 GMT -5
PHEEBS: Two new press releases. ESMERALDA" PHEEBS EDIT: Made a small edit from when I posted it yesterday. ESMERALDA: I haven't read the previous one. If the edits are the titles... Here are my edits. ESMERALDA: So, guys, what do you think of the edits? ------------------------- RUTH: I love these Pheebs, great job as always with the deadline articles. SASHA: Great job putting these together. Also cool interview. I hope you do more interview style press releases in the future with Q&A's. Even ones with the writers talking about the episodes they wrote, and not just Connie. ESMERALDA: Oh, yes! I agree totally, although in order to do that, we'd have to start figuring out who wrote which one. I've been having fun having Sheryl and Paul write each series premiere and series finale the way Connie and/or Kern wrote all of the Classic Charmed season premiere/finales. For the other episodes, I think we should let the ones who wrote the original (not edited) press release decide. Perhaps we should set up a thread where we show who wrote which press release and let them have the fun of deciding who they want to write their episode: Sheryl, Paul, or the team of Chris and Zach. I can do that when I work on the next update tonight if you guys think that's a good idea.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 3:46:55 GMT -5
I'd like to apologize for not coming on sooner (got caught up with some things) to post version 2. I already see more press releases and Es' edit. Since Es did an edit to version 1 already, obviously this doesn't reflect a few of her changes. Had I been online sooner, I'd have amended stuff. So is basically my draft. Again, I haven't read properly all the suggestions you guys have made. But I'm so hoping we can come up with a better idea for the cure. That's okay, Summer - I think a lot of us were busy this weekend. I know I didn't get as much done as I wanted. SUMMER: Feel free to edit, change, or change back to version 1, or Es' edits? Ask questions? When I was writing this, I ended up realizing this sounded a lot like Peyton and Coven wanting to steal their powers in a way. But I left it in, just to see what you thought about it. Because I feel I might have complicated it more (I certainly felt that way writing), or possibly found a way of merging Season 5's arc with this. If Peyton and the coven become these warlocks. ESMERALDA: Yeah, unless we figure a way of combining this with our Peyton/Andrea storyline or do something different with that one, I agree that this is too much like that story and could give away as to what is happening during that one. I do like the idea of the potion, since we can have Piper make it (although if she's infected, she'd probably end up throwing the vial against the wall...), but again not what it does to Andrea since we don't want the only way to be able to use the antivirus to be losing your powers - we definitely don't want any of our Elemental Witches to lose *their* powers - not in the third season! Now if this was the series finale, that might be the way we want to end it, but I don't think that's what Summer has in mind... |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 4:29:42 GMT -5
SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received.
I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas.
I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted.
I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2.
Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys.
ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming succeed, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why!
But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT!
GRANNY: Definitely agree on that dears. I think we might need to adjust a few if it is a longer arc now.
EMERALDA: Probably, but I don't think we should do that until we're done with Season Three. Once we are, it will be my job as editor to go back and make it smooth and consistent, and then it will be you guys' job to point out anything I miss.
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SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2:
SUMMER: What do you think?
I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure.
ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches.
COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again!
GRANNY: We might be better saving that for the next. Maybe the power stripping part is only one part to a cure. And we need more than just that.
PRUDENCE: I don't think that is a solution too. Although I really think Andrea taking a power stripping potion is so dramatic, and wonderful.
ESMERALDA: I'm wondering if we should still let her do it, but just not let that be the cure. Let the cure be something else that we discover farther down the road, especially now that we know that this will be a full story arc and not just a two-parter.
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SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton.
ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think?
COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale.
GRANNY: We can just as easily pull S4's stories forward to work these new ones dears maybe. Unless we find it just can't work. Or maybe even adjusting S4 and S5. So we *still* reach 100 episodes, but just make S4 shorter to add a few extra episodes to S5. But if that proves too difficult, let's hear other suggestions, what do others think?
PRUDENCE: That we could guys. Then we'd need to figure out, what to do with what we have now. I'm thinking we could just wrap up the arc, with Andrea/Peyton and the coven where they steal their powers and use the law to get back at them, and then finding a way to lead that into this story.
ESMERALDA: What's this law that everyone is talking about? I've heard it mentioned a number of times but have yet to see it in any of the press releases unless I missed it.
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PRUDENCE: I guess we could go back to Bridget and the coven, but then we'd have Bridget betraying Prudence as an arc, and then we'd not be able to again have Peyton possessing Andrea. Cant see two stories with coven members being the big bad, although in Andrea's case she really isn't. That means also, no Bridget death framed by Peyton. Which I totally loved.
Unless the whole possession arc is just pulled forward a season, and Peyton gets out of dodge for a while, and returns during the Wither Pox arc.
ESMERALDA: Guys, Peyton doesn't get out of dodge - she gets out of Dodge. In the classic western series, "Gunsmoke",
the sheriff would tell the villain to get out of Dodge when he wanted them out of Dodge City, Kansas, which is where it takes place. That's how the saying "Get out of Dodge" came to be.
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PRUDENCE: What do you all think? Maybe we should let Summer play out the rest of this arc where we have it, and once she finishes the arc with press releases, then go from here?
ESMERALDA: I agree totally!
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SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it.
ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately, I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help?
COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks ends in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of an infected witch and warlock, blood of a nonaffected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens.
Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough?
Any other ideas everyone?
GRANNY: That might work. I'm not sure what else dear, Unfortunately, I can't think of anything right now.
PRUDENCE: Well that could be another mission for the Warrens, but with how the story has progressed. Going to find an ancestor, would mean Phoebe is dead already and the others will be so affected. Time is running out so much, that I'd imagine this whole arc, would be only a few days covered across 4 episodes. Which I like because it makes the suspense greater.
ESMERALDA: I saw an idea somewhere in this thread and it got me thinking. What if the reason why Wither Pox is just now doing this to witches isn't that the Demoness just invented it but that it was irridicated a long time ago (like polio) sso witches and warlocks no longer need to be vaccinated? But what if when Jenna comes forward with Mary Ann and the beginning of Season Two, she has the virus - hence the reason why she changed and betrayed her sister Mary Ann - and when one of the warlocks uses her powers against Mary Ann, she becomes infected and that's what starts the whole thing? What if the Demoness that I invented is actually possessed by Jenna? Hence the reason for the time travel that we've discussed... If they use a potion to strip Jenna's powers and then use the potion they used on Andrea on Jenna, that prevent Jenna from bringing the virus forward.
How's that? Would that work?
Along this idea, I had another one that goes with it. What if Peyton in our Season Four/Five isn't really Peyton Warren at all? What if she's Jenna Warren possessing Andrea and "Peyton"? What if she's the actual Big Bad of the series? Since she's constantly possessing people, it wouldn't mean that Shannen would appear in every episode Jenna appears. Then what if in our series finale, Paige finds out that "Peyton" isn't really her daughter - her daughter has been reincarnated as the Warren who has the same power she had - Phoebe! Same soul, just totally different father - Victor rather than Sam - meaning a totally different person. This could also be why Phoebe is Paige's favorite niece; her soul recognizes her daughter...
If those are too wild and you guys don't want to use them, that's fine - it's what brainstorming is all about. But the ideas hit me, so I had to throw them into the pot.
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SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure.
ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers!
COLTON: What an idea!
GRANNY: I love that dear.
PRUDENCE: WOW! We may have found a way for her to get all of them if she wanted. Also being a Warren, wouldn't her body be able to handle the powers, unlike any other normal witch where it wouldn't work. After all, Peyton was originally an Elemental.
ESMERALDA: No, because Andrea is a Halliwell, not a Warren. In order to do that, Peyton would have to possess an Elemental Witch. And if you use my earlier idea, I can see Jenna possessing Phoebe. Remember that this is Jenna from the past coming forward, so the same reason that Prue could touch Little Prue's freckle is why the soul of Jenna could possess Phoebe, who is the reincarnation of Jenna.
Again, that might be too wild, but it's an idea...
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SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it!
ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode.
COLTON: Me too for the other version.
PRUDENCE: I see Summer posted it now. But I don't have time right now to read it, since updating with these earlier replies.
ESMERALDA: I have and it's too much like our Peyton/Andrea story. We'd almost have to get rid of that one to use this one, and I don't want to do that.
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SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely.
ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits.
Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'?
Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic!
COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be at least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode.
GRANNY: I totally love this as an arc for at least 5 or 6 episodes too.
PRUDENCE: Me too! I think with what we have, let us go an extra episode or two.
ESMERALDA: I think we should just let it go as far as the characters (and Summer) wants to take it. We have lots of room in both Season 3 and early Season 4. In fact, I'm wondering if we should move this from S2/3 to S3/4 and let it blend into the other storyline. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by summerreading on Sept 18, 2018 7:14:59 GMT -5
SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received. I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas. I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted. I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2. Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys. ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming succeed, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why! But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT! GRANNY: Definitely agree on that dears. I think we might need to adjust a few if it is a longer arc now. EMERALDA: Probably, but I don't think we should do that until we're done with Season Three. Once we are, it will be my job as editor to go back and make it smooth and consistent, and then it will be you guys' job to point out anything I miss. SUMMER: ------------------------------ SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2: SUMMER: What do you think? I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure. ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches. COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again! GRANNY: We might be better saving that for the next. Maybe the power stripping part is only one part to a cure. And we need more than just that. PRUDENCE: I don't think that is a solution too. Although I really think Andrea taking a power stripping potion is so dramatic, and wonderful. ESMERALDA: I'm wondering if we should still let her do it, but just not let that be the cure. Let the cure be something else that we discover farther down the road, especially now that we know that this will be a full story arc and not just a two-parter. SUMMER: I think it could be great for a cliffhanger, that's for sure. But not the cure. Thanks for all the suggestions guys. ------------------------- SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton. ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think? COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale. GRANNY: We can just as easily pull S4's stories forward to work these new ones dears maybe. Unless we find it just can't work. Or maybe even adjusting S4 and S5. So we *still* reach 100 episodes, but just make S4 shorter to add a few extra episodes to S5. But if that proves too difficult, let's hear other suggestions, what do others think? PRUDENCE: That we could guys. Then we'd need to figure out, what to do with what we have now. I'm thinking we could just wrap up the arc, with Andrea/Peyton and the coven where they steal their powers and use the law to get back at them, and then finding a way to lead that into this story. ESMERALDA: What's this law that everyone is talking about? I've heard it mentioned a number of times but have yet to see it in any of the press releases unless I missed it. Summer: Is it this, that's the first thing that came to mind. -------------------------- PRUDENCE: I guess we could go back to Bridget and the coven, but then we'd have Bridget betraying Prudence as an arc, and then we'd not be able to again have Peyton possessing Andrea. Cant see two stories with coven members being the big bad, although in Andrea's case she really isn't. That means also, no Bridget death framed by Peyton. Which I totally loved. Unless the whole possession arc is just pulled forward a season, and Peyton gets out of dodge for a while, and returns during the Wither Pox arc. ESMERALDA: Guys, Peyton doesn't get out of dodge - she gets out of Dodge. In the classic western series, "Gunsmoke", the sheriff would tell the villain to get out of Dodge when he wanted them out of Dodge City, Kansas, which is where it takes place. That's how the saying "Get out of Dodge" came to be. SUMMER: Thanks for pointing that out here Es. Most here wouldn't have seen Gunsmoke, and know what it meant, and may have heard it before, but didn't get it. -------------------------------- PRUDENCE: What do you all think? Maybe we should let Summer play out the rest of this arc where we have it, and once she finishes the arc with press releases, then go from here? ESMERALDA: I agree totally! SUMMER: Thanks, everyone. I have to admit, I know you all want to see the next chapter in the arc, but I've been so burnt out for plotting it all weekend, starting Friday. I just want a little break to recharge, which is why I'm loving hearing all these suggestions. They help fuel some inspiration. Then I'll be able to start plotting close to the weekend or weekend. -------------------------- SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it. ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately, I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help? COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks ends in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of an infected witch and warlock, blood of a nonaffected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens. Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough? Any other ideas everyone? GRANNY: That might work. I'm not sure what else dear, Unfortunately, I can't think of anything right now. PRUDENCE: Well that could be another mission for the Warrens, but with how the story has progressed. Going to find an ancestor, would mean Phoebe is dead already and the others will be so affected. Time is running out so much, that I'd imagine this whole arc, would be only a few days covered across 4 episodes. Which I like because it makes the suspense greater. ESMERALDA: I saw an idea somewhere in this thread and it got me thinking. What if the reason why Wither Pox is just now doing this to witches isn't that the Demoness just invented it but that it was irridicated a long time ago (like polio) sso witches and warlocks no longer need to be vaccinated? But what if when Jenna comes forward with Mary Ann and the beginning of Season Two, she has the virus - hence the reason why she changed and betrayed her sister Mary Ann - and when one of the warlocks uses her powers against Mary Ann, she becomes infected and that's what starts the whole thing? What if the Demoness that I invented is actually possessed by Jenna? Hence the reason for the time travel that we've discussed... If they use a potion to strip Jenna's powers and then use the potion they used on Andrea on Jenna, that prevent Jenna from bringing the virus forward. How's that? Would that work? Along this idea, I had another one that goes with it. What if Peyton in our Season Four/Five isn't really Peyton Warren at all? What if she's Jenna Warren possessing Andrea and "Peyton"? What if she's the actual Big Bad of the series? Since she's constantly possessing people, it wouldn't mean that Shannen would appear in every episode Jenna appears. Then what if in our series finale, Paige finds out that "Peyton" isn't really her daughter - her daughter has been reincarnated as the Warren who has the same power she had - Phoebe! Same soul, just totally different father - Victor rather than Sam - meaning a totally different person. This could also be why Phoebe is Paige's favorite niece; her soul recognizes her daughter... If those are too wild and you guys don't want to use them, that's fine - it's what brainstorming is all about. But the ideas hit me, so I had to throw them into the pot. SUMMER: That is some very bold ideas Es. I think the first one definitely would fit, and one that will allow us to include Jenna and Mary Ann as part of S3. Although, I keep forgetting where we have them at in all their appearances. I know we had one in S4. So that's five now. It also fits in with our time travel ideas. Now we're getting somewhere. What do you all think? If we do this idea, then we might need to make adjustments so this is the end of S3/start of S4 story. As for the second idea and crazy idea, one I wouldn't even have a clue how to plot. What do others think? ------------------------ SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure. ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers! COLTON: What an idea! GRANNY: I love that dear. PRUDENCE: WOW! We may have found a way for her to get all of them if she wanted. Also being a Warren, wouldn't her body be able to handle the powers, unlike any other normal witch where it wouldn't work. After all, Peyton was originally an Elemental. ESMERALDA: No, because Andrea is a Halliwell, not a Warren. In order to do that, Peyton would have to possess an Elemental Witch. And if you use my earlier idea, I can see Jenna possessing Phoebe. Remember that this is Jenna from the past coming forward, so the same reason that Prue could touch Little Prue's freckle is why the soul of Jenna could possess Phoebe, who is the reincarnation of Jenna. Again, that might be too wild, but it's an idea... SUMMER: That's a pretty neat idea, but I'm not sure. Just don't want to lose anything we've had before. What do you all think? ------------------------ SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it! ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode. COLTON: Me too for the other version. PRUDENCE: I see Summer posted it now. But I don't have time right now to read it, since updating with these earlier replies. ESMERALDA: I have and it's too much like our Peyton/Andrea story. We'd almost have to get rid of that one to use this one, and I don't want to do that. SUMMER: Exactly what I thought writing, but I left it in to see what you guys thought. I don't want to lose anything, so let's ignore it. Again, the fun of brainstorming. We can have several ideas thrown into the pot, some might work, and others might not after discussions. ---------------------------- SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely. ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits. Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'? Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic! COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be at least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode. GRANNY: I totally love this as an arc for at least 5 or 6 episodes too. PRUDENCE: Me too! I think with what we have, let us go an extra episode or two. ESMERALDA: I think we should just let it go as far as the characters (and Summer) wants to take it. We have lots of room in both Season 3 and early Season 4. In fact, I'm wondering if we should move this from S2/3 to S3/4 and let it blend into the other storyline. We'll see how it goes. SUMMER: I said a similar thing above. I think more and more, this would work well in S3/4. But for now, I'll let it play out as I have it in S2/3, and wait until I complete the arc before deciding. Hows that guys?
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Post by summerreading on Sept 18, 2018 7:24:42 GMT -5
I'd like to apologize for not coming on sooner (got caught up with some things) to post version 2. I already see more press releases and Es' edit. Since Es did an edit to version 1 already, obviously this doesn't reflect a few of her changes. Had I been online sooner, I'd have amended stuff. So is basically my draft. Again, I haven't read properly all the suggestions you guys have made. But I'm so hoping we can come up with a better idea for the cure. That's okay, Summer - I think a lot of us were busy this weekend. I know I didn't get as much done as I wanted.
SUMMER: I've been pretty burnt out with plotting so much on the weekend with my stories, I'm going to take a break for a few days to re-charge, but already all the feedback and brainstorming has helped fuel some inspiration for when I get back at it later this week or the weekend to finish the Wither Pox arc. SUMMER: Feel free to edit, change, or change back to version 1, or Es' edits? Ask questions? When I was writing this, I ended up realizing this sounded a lot like Peyton and Coven wanting to steal their powers in a way. But I left it in, just to see what you thought about it. Because I feel I might have complicated it more (I certainly felt that way writing), or possibly found a way of merging Season 5's arc with this. If Peyton and the coven become these warlocks. ESMERALDA: Yeah, unless we figure a way of combining this with our Peyton/Andrea storyline or do something different with that one, I agree that this is too much like that story and could give away as to what is happening during that one. I do like the idea of the potion, since we can have Piper make it (although if she's infected, she'd probably end up throwing the vial against the wall...), but again not what it does to Andrea since we don't want the only way to be able to use the antivirus to be losing your powers - we definitely don't want any of our Elemental Witches to lose *their* powers - not in the third season! Now if this was the series finale, that might be the way we want to end it, but I don't think that's what Summer has in mind... SUMMER: Thanks for the feedback. Let's discard this idea. Not what I had in mind. It was just a suggestion. Why I love the brainstorming and hearing all the opinions, and us finding out a solution together or being inspired to find one. |
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Post by summerreading on Sept 18, 2018 7:29:48 GMT -5
--------------------------------- PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. ESMERALDA: YAY! And here's my edit: First - guys, please stop with the extra-long titles. If this was real, the real editor would never let them go through - they turn readers off. Figure out your press release is mainly about and use that as a title, okay? Try to keep them under one line. PRUDENCE: I can see we all have had this problem here, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention. I have come across some real press releases like that before, but again not many. PHEEBS: Thanks Es for this. I since edited my own titles from yesterday. Hoping they are better? ESMERALDA: Better, Pheebs, but as you'll see, I still edited both of them. ----------------------------- ESMERALDA: First to admit I'm having some Es-type fun again. We'll see what you think. PHEEBS: ESMERALDA: So? What do you guys think? Unfortunately I'm already late getting ready for work, so I'll have to edit the other one tonight... PRUDENCE: I can see you had fun with it. The part with mentioning Classic Charmed and Elemental Charmed comparisons might be the only part, I think might not work for a press release. But I'm not too fussed either way, its a point where Connie admits what went wrong, but because she wasn't apart of those seasons, I'm not sure. What about the rest? Apart from that great job Es and Pheebs! PHEEBS: I actually think it's fine, maybe just a little word change slightly. But it makes sense to admit what they like to not do. I like that she does point out something like that. SASHA: I loved this press release. What a way to take make fun of Kern. I got a good laugh with that one. Now if it should be included or would that be considered a fantasy comment? But I really like it. ESMERALDA: Thanks, guys - I really like it, too, but I do wonder if it's a bit too much of an Es-fantasy line and not truly something Connie would say. After all, she wasn't part of the Cole-Phoebe storyline that took over S3 and S4 or the Piper-Leo-Wyatt-Chris ones that took over S5-7 or the Billie-Christy one that took over S7. Now she *was* part of that horrible S2 triangle, so if someone wants to figure a way for her to comment on that, that would be great. As is, I do think it's better if I take out my fun and return Pheebs' line. It said what we wanted it to say, but, well, sneakier! SUMMER: That's a good point. I think if she were apart of those seasons, she could say it. But I'll read the new edit now. So here's my new edit: ESMERALDA: So? What do you guys think now? SUMMER: That is perfect! And here's my edit for Pheebs' other Deadline press release: So? How's that? SUMMER: Again great editing and Pheebs love the press release. Again, loving all the press releases, because It makes me get to live in our amazing alternate universe (where rip-off doesn't exist) and be apart of this series. So more Deadline press releases Pheebs. |
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Post by summerreading on Sept 18, 2018 7:47:07 GMT -5
ESMERALDA"  PHEEBS EDIT: Made a small edit from when I posted it yesterday. ESMERALDA: I haven't read the previous one. If the edits are the titles... Here are my edits. ESMERALDA: So, guys, what do you think of the edits? ------------------------- RUTH: I love these Pheebs, great job as always with the deadline articles. SASHA: Great job putting these together. Also cool interview. I hope you do more interview style press releases in the future with Q&A's. Even ones with the writers talking about the episodes they wrote, and not just Connie. ESMERALDA: Oh, yes! I agree totally, although in order to do that, we'd have to start figuring out who wrote which one. I've been having fun having Sheryl and Paul write each series premiere and series finale the way Connie and/or Kern wrote all of the Classic Charmed season premiere/finales. For the other episodes, I think we should let the ones who wrote the original (not edited) press release decide. Perhaps we should set up a thread where we show who wrote which press release and let them have the fun of deciding who they want to write their episode: Sheryl, Paul, or the team of Chris and Zach. I can do that when I work on the next update tonight if you guys think that's a good idea. SUMMER: I love this idea SO much. That would be so much fun. I like that we fewer writers. We all know shows have many many more and would hire other writers as a show progresses. But if none of the writing team exits, and stay on for all five seasons. We won't have to worry about that. I'm perfectly happy with these four (really three different sets of writers rotating episodes since Chris and Zach count as one for an episode). But maybe to make it feel more real, we could add another non-Classic Charmed writer, so it doesn't feel too fantasy with just all people who already worked on Charmed previously like we found when we did the casting former stars in roles. But I'm not sure who we'd bring on-board, that's the issue I have with adding more people. But I'm not too fussed either way guys?
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 14:42:19 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: WOW! I can’t believe we’re up to TWENTY pages after only a little over a month!
Not that many press releases announcing new episodes to add to this batch, although we have a nice bunch of Deadline press releases courtesy of Pheebs Halliwell.
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ESMERALDA: Of course a lot of this is thanks to all of the discussions regarding the Wither Pox virus storyline – about the only problem with introducing the skyscraper method of replying to posts. But that’s okay, since this thread is mainly for brainstorming and the skyscraper method is the best way to do that!
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ESMERALDA: I’ve kept the most recent versions of that story arc here, although there’s always possibilities that thanks to all of the discussions, it could change. I did edit my edits of the Season Two cliffies to reflect what others have said. Although the warlocks still tell the Warrens about the how and why the virus and the antivirus potion affect both witches and warlocks (that gives the Warrens a reason to agree to work with them), how the virus is spread is held off until Season Three.
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ESMERALDA: Also, everyone, keep in mind – even though Summer Reading started this storyline, nothing says that others can’t do press releases for episodes that are part of the storyline. But that’s why I’m glad we had standalones in Season One and Two and am hoping we end up moving this storyline to S3/S4 and continue to use standalones in Season Three – it just gives more members more chances to use their own ideas to write their own episodes for ‘Elemental Charmed’ – the reason why we got 50 episodes in a little over a month, halfway to our goal of 100. But, of course, that’s up to everyone else.
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ESMERALDA: Also as discussed, while I’m working on this, I’m also going to start a new thread that will let the authors of the episode press releases decide who they want to have as writers for their episode. I’m hoping we stick to the ones we’ve chosen so far: Sheryl J. Anderson, the team of Chris Levinson & Zach Estrin and Paul Ruditis, the ones who most fans agree did the best job writing the sisters as sisters. I like to think that if Connie Burge truly got to be the executive producer of a Charmed reboot – not just the creator – that she would choose the ones who wrote the sisters the most like Connie and her own sisters, and from what I’ve read, these are the ones who did – especially in our alternate universe where she no longer has to answer to male chauvinists Brad Kern, Aaron Spelling and E. Duke Vincent, who cared more about how much tit and ass the actresses could reveal over their characters.
BUT that’s just my reaction. Many TV shows have just one writer for the entire show; many have many. I think too many is what caused all of the infamous inconsistencies in Classic Charmed with each writer seeing the sisters differently. BUT if you’ve written one or more of press releases for the episodes and think a different TV writer (no Buffy ones or Hercules/Xena ones or Supernatural ones, please – Classic Charmed fans are given enough problems from fans of those shows!) would do a better job, feel free. Just please, don’t use any of the names of Charmed Café members – that’s for a fantasy series, not this one, which we’re trying to keep as real as possible, despite me trying to sneak fantasy stuff into some of Pheebs Halliwell’s Deadline press releases!
Just be sure that the ones you choose truly have real TV-writing credits (not movies!) – I’ll be checking and if they don’t have those credits via IMDb, they won’t make it to the next update.
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ESMERALDA: In each case, it’s the person who wrote the original press release who will get to choose – if I post something here with two names, that’s the first name.
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ESMERALDA: You’ll notice one more addition. I’ve added all of the missing episodes with their Season Number, Episode Number and Airing Date. These dates are a combination of the dates Classic Charmed episodes ran (although unlike them, our two-parters are ran in consecutive weeks rather than the same day) and future calendars. Go ahead and use these to add press releases for new episodes!
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ESMERALDA: Since all of this will probably bring up a lot of discussion, I’m going to go ahead and put it in its own post and then start working on the update and the writers thread. Feel free to add your reaction – just be sure you put your reaction above the line – that will make it clear to others what opinions are mine and what are others. Thanks much!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 14:59:37 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: OOPS! Me again. We have a problem, Houston! We already have a Season 3, Episode 2 episode entitled 'Past Imperfect' and a Season 3, Episode 3 episode entitled "The Roaring 20s Over and Over and Over Again' and neither fit ere we're at with the Wither Pox virus storyline.
Since they're the only current Season Three episodes, I'm going to make them Season Four episodes so I don't have to change all the mentions of Season 2 and 3 in Pheebs Halliwell's Deadline press releases.
Hope that's okay with the ones who wrote these previous Season 3, Episode 2 and 3 press releases.
Of course if we later decide to switch the Wither Pox storyline to Season 3/4 in order to try to combine it with the Andrea/Peyton storyline in S4/5, we can always switch these around.
All part of the fun of brainstorming and working together to make the best Elemental Charmed possible!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2018 15:06:34 GMT -5
LOL! Those episodes won't fit there either because Season 4, Episode 3 is one of our wonderful Halloween episodes - the one that lands directly ON Halloween. That might be our best reason for figuring a way to let the Wither Pox virus storyline stay as S2/S3 because the Halloween episode also won't fit that storyline.
So I made these two episodes Season 4, Episode 4 and 5. Again I hope that will be okay with the authors of those press releases.
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Post by coltoncharmed on Sept 18, 2018 15:34:53 GMT -5
PHEEBS: I'm back with a few new Deadline Press Releases. COLTON: I got the tag in my notifications, Pheebs!
PHEEBS: Feel free to edit, change, ask questions? COLTON: Great job Pheebs! Although are you also doing a third press release for the Witcher Pox arc closer to it's airing in May 2020 or even one for S3's preview for the continued and story-arc? I'd even like one of those postseason interviews with the writers talking about what lies ahead next season or even an episode? I'm sure you'll do great with those as always. PHEEBS: Your wish is my command Colton, those are exactly the type of press release I'm currently working on now. So they should be up fairly soon, or whenever I finish them for sharing. COLTON:
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Post by coltoncharmed on Sept 18, 2018 16:18:59 GMT -5
ESMERALDA: WOW! I can’t believe we’re up to TWENTY pages after only a little over a month! Not that many press releases announcing new episodes to add to this batch, although we have a nice bunch of Deadline press releases courtesy of Pheebs Halliwell. COLTON: I've loved the Deadline press releases. I'm not sure if I missed any new ones, but I might wait until your another of those great update posts you do to see. ----------------------------- ESMERALDA: Of course a lot of this is thanks to all of the discussions regarding the Wither Pox virus storyline – about the only problem with introducing the skyscraper method of replying to posts. But that’s okay, since this thread is mainly for brainstorming and the skyscraper method is the best way to do that! COLTON: We have been busy with the discussions on that. But that skyscraper method that was done here, helped make life easier for all to reply. ------------------------- ESMERALDA: I’ve kept the most recent versions of that story arc here, although there’s always possibilities that thanks to all of the discussions, it could change. I did edit my edits of the Season Two cliffies to reflect what others have said. Although the warlocks still tell the Warrens about the how and why the virus and the antivirus potion affect both witches and warlocks (that gives the Warrens a reason to agree to work with them), how the virus is spread is held off until Season Three. COLTON: ------------------------------- ESMERALDA: Also, everyone, keep in mind – even though Summer Reading started this storyline, nothing says that others can’t do press releases for episodes that are part of the storyline. But that’s why I’m glad we had standalones in Season One and Two and am hoping we end up moving this storyline to S3/S4 and continue to use standalones in Season Three – it just gives more members more chances to use their own ideas to write their own episodes for ‘Elemental Charmed’ – the reason why we got 50 episodes in a little over a month, halfway to our goal of 100. But, of course, that’s up to everyone else. COLTON: I think many of us, I know Marlene has admitted she likes standalone episodes to write. Summer and Pheebs seem to do so great at story-arcs. But I actually think that is a great idea because it does allow new people to join if they want and I think they'll feel more comfortable doing a standalone for a first press release try, not a whole story-arc or adding to one. But in saying that, we did plan to do a time travel story in S3, that might be a story arc that is just done in the final episodes of S3. Then it would carry the story-arcs standard into 4 and 5. ----------------------------- ESMERALDA: Also as discussed, while I’m working on this, I’m also going to start a new thread that will let the authors of the episode press releases decide who they want to have as writers for their episode. I’m hoping we stick to the ones we’ve chosen so far: Sheryl J. Anderson, the team of Chris Levinson & Zach Estrin and Paul Ruditis, the ones who most fans agree did the best job writing the sisters as sisters. I like to think that if Connie Burge truly got to be the executive producer of a Charmed reboot – not just the creator – that she would choose the ones who wrote the sisters the most like Connie and her own sisters, and from what I’ve read, these are the ones who did – especially in our alternate universe where she no longer has to answer to male chauvinists Brad Kern, Aaron Spelling and E. Duke Vincent, who cared more about how much tit and ass the actresses could reveal over their characters. BUT that’s just my reaction. Many TV shows have just one writer for the entire show; many have many. I think too many is what caused all of the infamous inconsistencies in Classic Charmed with each writer seeing the sisters differently. BUT if you’ve written one or more of press releases for the episodes and think a different TV writer (no Buffy ones or Hercules/Xena ones or Supernatural ones, please – Classic Charmed fans are given enough problems from fans of those shows!) would do a better job, feel free. Just please, don’t use any of the names of Charmed Café members – that’s for a fantasy series, not this one, which we’re trying to keep as real as possible, despite me trying to sneak fantasy stuff into some of Pheebs Halliwell’s Deadline press releases! Just be sure that the ones you choose truly have real TV-writing credits (not movies!) – I’ll be checking and if they don’t have those credits via IMDb, they won’t make it to the next update. COLTON: Good idea. I think not using any writers from those shows is the best idea possible. I look forward to this new thread. --------------------------------- ESMERALDA: In each case, it’s the person who wrote the original press release who will get to choose – if I post something here with two names, that’s the first name. COLTON: That makes sense. ---------------------------- ESMERALDA: You’ll notice one more addition. I’ve added all of the missing episodes with their Season Number, Episode Number and Airing Date. These dates are a combination of the dates Classic Charmed episodes ran (although unlike them, our two-parters are ran in consecutive weeks rather than the same day) and future calendars. Go ahead and use these to add press releases for new episodes! --------------------------- ESMERALDA: Since all of this will probably bring up a lot of discussion, I’m going to go ahead and put it in its own post and then start working on the update and the writers thread. Feel free to add your reaction – just be sure you put your reaction above the line – that will make it clear to others what opinions are mine and what are others. Thanks much!
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Sept 18, 2018 17:09:31 GMT -5
SUMMER: Right now, I adjusted my press releases and did the best I could given all the feedback I received. I'll dive back into comments later (so much to catch up, I couldn't help but notice a new way of replying), but took all that I read, and did the best I could to combine ideas. I actually went and did two versions of the second episode. A First for me, since I've never done two versions of a press release before, especially not after a rewrite when it was first posted. I'm not going to share Version 2 of Season 3, Episode 2 right away. I'll let you read version 1 first, and decide if this was a good idea or not, before sharing Version 2. Here it is, the conclusion to the Wither Pox arc guys. ESMERALDA: You definitely have me curious to read what you've written. And as always, as I read, I'll do my edit - I just can't help doing that! But like before (and I love the fact that you guys aren't afraid to say, "Sorry, Es, but that doesn't work!" - it's SO what makes brainstorming succeed, especially because this is OUR project; we're helping each other - you guys aren't just helping me!), if anyone doesn't like my edits, don't be afraid to say so, but especially be sure to say why! But right off the bat, you guys were SO right - saving Summer's original title (modified) for this episode - and remember that she originally wanted hers to be the season premiere, not the season finale) is absolutely PERFECT! GRANNY: Definitely agree on that dears. I think we might need to adjust a few if it is a longer arc now. EMERALDA: Probably, but I don't think we should do that until we're done with Season Three. Once we are, it will be my job as editor to go back and make it smooth and consistent, and then it will be you guys' job to point out anything I miss. SUMMER: PRUDENCE: I'm sure you'll do a good job making it smooth and consistent with your great editing skills. ------------------------------ SUMMER: Version 1 of Season 3, Episode 2: SUMMER: What do you think? I'm not sure if my solution works, or if this could be just a possible idea they come up with, before coming closer to a cure. ESMERALDA: I'm sorry, Summer, but your solution really isn't a solution - it might prevent Andrea from being infected, but I can't see how it would stop Wither Pox from destroying all witches. COLTON: It may not be a solution but still very shocking as a cliffhanger yet again! GRANNY: We might be better saving that for the next. Maybe the power stripping part is only one part to a cure. And we need more than just that. PRUDENCE: I don't think that is a solution too. Although I really think Andrea taking a power stripping potion is so dramatic, and wonderful. ESMERALDA: I'm wondering if we should still let her do it, but just not let that be the cure. Let the cure be something else that we discover farther down the road, especially now that we know that this will be a full story arc and not just a two-parter. SUMMER: I think it could be great for a cliffhanger, that's for sure. But not the cure. Thanks for all the suggestions guys. PRUDENCE: I still like her doing it too. It's a great ending as a cliffhanger to end just as she opens the vial and takes it. ------------------------- SUMMER: Now if this were to happen to Andrea, she'll just be without whatever power she had, but she can still do spells and all as usual, and can still be possessed by Peyton. ESMERALDA: And that's the only thing I like about your cure. Although I must admit - this is just so exciting and so dramatic, I'm beginning to wonder if THIS should be our SERIES finale, not the whole possessing one. I find this would make a much better one. What do the rest of you think? COLTON: YES PLEASE! It really feels so big. Maybe if it were. We'd go back to Bridget and the coven plot for S2 with them stealing powers and using the law. While saving this as the goal Peyton wants to do for the finale. GRANNY: We can just as easily pull S4's stories forward to work these new ones dears maybe. Unless we find it just can't work. Or maybe even adjusting S4 and S5. So we *still* reach 100 episodes, but just make S4 shorter to add a few extra episodes to S5. But if that proves too difficult, let's hear other suggestions, what do others think? PRUDENCE: That we could guys. Then we'd need to figure out, what to do with what we have now. I'm thinking we could just wrap up the arc, with Andrea/Peyton and the coven where they steal their powers and use the law to get back at them, and then finding a way to lead that into this story. ESMERALDA: What's this law that everyone is talking about? I've heard it mentioned a number of times but have yet to see it in any of the press releases unless I missed it. Summer: Is it this, that's the first thing that came to mind. PRUDENCE: That's exactly what I was thinking about. Thanks, Summer. -------------------------- PRUDENCE: I guess we could go back to Bridget and the coven, but then we'd have Bridget betraying Prudence as an arc, and then we'd not be able to again have Peyton possessing Andrea. Can't see two stories with coven members being the big bad, although in Andrea's case she really isn't. That means also, no Bridget death framed by Peyton. Which I totally loved. Unless the whole possession arc is just pulled forward a season, and Peyton gets out of dodge for a while, and returns during the Wither Pox arc. ESMERALDA: Guys, Peyton doesn't get out of dodge - she gets out of Dodge. In the classic western series, "Gunsmoke", the sheriff would tell the villain to get out of Dodge when he wanted them out of Dodge City, Kansas, which is where it takes place. That's how the saying "Get out of Dodge" came to be. SUMMER: Thanks for pointing that out here Es. Most here wouldn't have seen Gunsmoke, and know what it meant, and may have heard it before, but didn't get it. PRUDENCE: Never seen Gunsmoke before. But heard that saying mentioned so many times. Thanks for clearing that up. -------------------------------- PRUDENCE: What do you all think? Maybe we should let Summer play out the rest of this arc where we have it, and once she finishes the arc with press releases, then go from here? ESMERALDA: I agree totally! SUMMER: Thanks, everyone. I have to admit, I know you all want to see the next chapter in the arc, but I've been so burnt out for plotting it all weekend, starting Friday. I just want a little break to recharge, which is why I'm loving hearing all these suggestions. They help fuel some inspiration. Then I'll be able to start plotting close to the weekend or weekend. PRUDENCE: You did such a good job Summer. I don't blame you for needing a break after creating that amazing arc for a few days. -------------------------- SUMMER: But I'm worried and I'm not the best when it comes to all the science, DNA and such, and what happens when a witch's powers are stripped if that DNA should be gone forever too, and I admit, I think I may have made it worse. So If anyone can word this better, I'd appreciate it. ESMERALDA: What you're doing with the DNA is absolutely correct - that's not a problem at all. It's how doing that to only one witch would save all of the others without stripping all of *their* powers that's bothering me. And unfortunately, I can't come up with a better solution myself. Can anyone help? COLTON: Maybe it requires the blood from a Warlocks ends in addition to a Witch who has to strip powers too. Blood of an infected witch and warlock, blood of a nonaffected, and something else maybe some special plant or herb. Maybe also requires blood from the first wither pox carrier which requires finding the ancestors instead. So the villains hunt down ancestors to kill too to stop the Warrens. Just suggestions. I'm not sure if it's good enough? Any other ideas everyone? GRANNY: That might work. I'm not sure what else dear, Unfortunately, I can't think of anything right now. PRUDENCE: Well that could be another mission for the Warrens, but with how the story has progressed. Going to find an ancestor, would mean Phoebe is dead already and the others will be so affected. Time is running out so much, that I'd imagine this whole arc, would be only a few days covered across 4 episodes. Which I like because it makes the suspense greater. ESMERALDA: I saw an idea somewhere in this thread and it got me thinking. What if the reason why Wither Pox is just now doing this to witches isn't that the Demoness just invented it but that it was irridicated a long time ago (like polio) sso witches and warlocks no longer need to be vaccinated? But what if when Jenna comes forward with Mary Ann and the beginning of Season Two, she has the virus - hence the reason why she changed and betrayed her sister Mary Ann - and when one of the warlocks uses her powers against Mary Ann, she becomes infected and that's what starts the whole thing? What if the Demoness that I invented is actually possessed by Jenna? Hence the reason for the time travel that we've discussed... If they use a potion to strip Jenna's powers and then use the potion they used on Andrea on Jenna, that prevent Jenna from bringing the virus forward. How's that? Would that work? Along this idea, I had another one that goes with it. What if Peyton in our Season Four/Five isn't really Peyton Warren at all? What if she's Jenna Warren possessing Andrea and "Peyton"? What if she's the actual Big Bad of the series? Since she's constantly possessing people, it wouldn't mean that Shannen would appear in every episode Jenna appears. Then what if in our series finale, Paige finds out that "Peyton" isn't really her daughter - her daughter has been reincarnated as the Warren who has the same power she had - Phoebe! Same soul, just totally different father - Victor rather than Sam - meaning a totally different person. This could also be why Phoebe is Paige's favorite niece; her soul recognizes her daughter... If those are too wild and you guys don't want to use them, that's fine - it's what brainstorming is all about. But the ideas hit me, so I had to throw them into the pot. SUMMER: That is some very bold ideas Es. I think the first one definitely would fit, and one that will allow us to include Jenna and Mary Ann as part of S3. Although, I keep forgetting where we have them at in all their appearances. I know we had one in S4. So that's five now. It also fits in with our time travel ideas. Now we're getting somewhere. What do you all think? If we do this idea, then we might need to make adjustments so this is the end of S3/start of S4 story. As for the second idea and crazy idea, one I wouldn't even have a clue how to plot. What do others think? PRUDENCE: The first idea looks great, I just hope we'll be able to fit it in with the stories we're telling. The second one sounds very interesting, but will it work for ours. I like all the twist it has with it. Great idea of throwing it into the pot Es. ------------------------ SUMMER: I couldn't help but think of Prue in the comics when she stripped her powers, and then when she got all their powers due to the crisis that happened and thought of Andrea being the one to do it for the cure. ESMERALDA: What *that* makes me think (and this would be putting this back to being the premiere for Season Three and not Five) is that this is another reason PEYTON would possess Andrea - she'd be able to use the fact that Andrea is now a witch with no powers to be able to soak up all of the Warren powers! COLTON: What an idea! GRANNY: I love that dear. PRUDENCE: WOW! We may have found a way for her to get all of them if she wanted. Also being a Warren, wouldn't her body be able to handle the powers, unlike any other normal witch where it wouldn't work. After all, Peyton was originally an Elemental. ESMERALDA: No, because Andrea is a Halliwell, not a Warren. In order to do that, Peyton would have to possess an Elemental Witch. And if you use my earlier idea, I can see Jenna possessing Phoebe. Remember that this is Jenna from the past coming forward, so the same reason that Prue could touch Little Prue's freckle is why the soul of Jenna could possess Phoebe, who is the reincarnation of Jenna. Again, that might be too wild, but it's an idea... SUMMER: That's a pretty neat idea, but I'm not sure. Just don't want to lose anything we've had before. What do you all think? PRUDENCE: Jenna possessing Phoebe is interesting. But a very wild idea. I'm not sure? It might muddle up all the stories we have planned for S4 and S5. But I'll go with the majority. ------------------------ SUMMER: I just came up with this idea, unless someone wants to take this story in another direction, or wants to edit or has another cure idea? Go for it! ESMERALDA: I'd also like to see what anyone else comes up with. I'd also like to read your other version of this episode. COLTON: Me too for the other version. PRUDENCE: I see Summer posted it now. But I don't have time right now to read it, since updating with these earlier replies. ESMERALDA: I have and it's too much like our Peyton/Andrea story. We'd almost have to get rid of that one to use this one, and I don't want to do that. SUMMER: Exactly what I thought writing, but I left it in to see what you guys thought. I don't want to lose anything, so let's ignore it. Again, the fun of brainstorming. We can have several ideas thrown into the pot, some might work, and others might not after discussions. PRUDENCE: I don't think we want to do that. But that's right, throw as many ideas into the pot as possible, and we'll see what can work. Keep throwing them in everyone! ---------------------------- SUMMER: Feel free, to re-edit, ask questions, or change it completely. ESMERALDA: Of course, I also want to know what others think of my edits. Something else to consider - if this story arc continues, this truly is *NOT* a two-parter, since this last part doesn't solve the problem set up in the first part, nor does it end a season. I think we need a different title for this episode, and thinking of "The Hunt for Red October", how about 'The Hunt For Phoebe Warren'? Because this is definitely NOT the conclusion of the Wither Pox story arc - not when it ends with a question! Nor do I want it to be. If this ends up being a full story arc of 5 or 6 episodes like our Peyton/Andrea arc, that would be fantastic! COLTON: I think if it's an arc. All different titles. I think this story really can and should be at least 5 or 6 episodes. It's too VERY good to stop here. I'm loving it too much. I can only imagine the intensity with Phoebe being higher next episode. GRANNY: I totally love this as an arc for at least 5 or 6 episodes too. PRUDENCE: Me too! I think with what we have, let us go an extra episode or two. ESMERALDA: I think we should just let it go as far as the characters (and Summer) wants to take it. We have lots of room in both Season 3 and early Season 4. In fact, I'm wondering if we should move this from S2/3 to S3/4 and let it blend into the other storyline. We'll see how it goes. SUMMER: I said a similar thing above. I think more and more, this would work well in S3/4. But for now, I'll let it play out as I have it in S2/3, and wait until I complete the arc before deciding. Hows that guys? PRUDENCE: I think just keep doing what you have started Summer, and take it as far as the character (and you) want to take it, as Es said.
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