Phoebe being bi

[zachary]

Mar 17, 2024 6:48:12 GMT -5 coophalliwell said:

You know you're gettin' old when you're only off by a DECADE, LOL!
I watched the new Charmed with my daughter, she thought it was good at first, but then it got diluted or something.

At least it was better than the rebooted Roswell.

I agree with your daughter. I've watched the reboot all the way through, twice, and while I admire everything it did on its own, I feel like it was "diluted" so to speak.

[chromaticanmomdasia]

I really wished Phoebe during her Ask Phoebe days had lots of LGBTQ people to have as a supernatural threat against them and innocents to save just imagine all those whacky sub plots they could've had season 5-8

[coophalliwell]

I watched something called Embrace of the Vampire last night, oh my!
It's been called the Sexiest Horror & I would agree, but that's because of Alyssa. There is a scene where she dabbles with another woman.
It's a trashy film to be honest, but I bought the blu-ray.

[sonja]

I agree with you, Phoebe was definitely a bi/queer icon. Actually, whenever I think about her character, I just picture her as bisexual by default, as if it's some sort of unspoken canon. I just think that if they'd actually dared to explore that in the show, they'd (sadly) write it off as a phase or bi-curiosity, she'd flirt with one girl in one episode and all her serious relationships would be with men. So, not much different than it already is. Give her a girlfriend!

Honestly, even Prue and Paige queer rewritings/reinterpretations make a lot of sense to me, maybe it's just my projection though.

[Ravenna]

I'm pretty sure in the time that it was they were too afraid to have a lead character be LGBT+ especially on a not so popular network, they couldn't risk alienating more people. But as hypersexual as they made Phoebe constantly it's hard to believe she never even experimented with other genders.

[West]

I feel that the time wasn't right for a LGBT+ lead character. Also doesn't help with the show being run by Silent Generation men. I get that on the WB Buffy and Dawson's Creek had a LGBT+ character but they were not the lead and face of the show. Which is different. They didn't want to risk another Ellen deal in that period of time.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Yeah that's what I thought as well.

It would've been an interesting area to go with Phoebe's character plus been a person LGBT+ people could relate to but then that subject matter wasn't as much spoken about as it it is now which probably did make the producers scared encase as West said they had another Ellen situation on their hands.

The early 2000s also didn't have as much wokeness as some TV shows and movies have as now then.

[sonja]

Of course, but we can imagine what could've been in different circumstances.
I think realistically speaking the most they would've done is have one of Phoebe's storylines revolve around saving an innocent who's LGBTQ+. Like you said, they wouldn't have the desire nor the courage to make one of the leads LGBTQ+. I think that's why they quickly shut down the jokes about her hanging out with "gays and lesbians" that were thrown around in season 1.