Personal Rank of the Seasons 5-8 (preferred to least)

[goldeneye049]

Apr 3, 2024 4:57:30 GMT -5 lunchking said:

Apr 3, 2024 4:35:23 GMT -5 goldeneye049 said:

I think it depends on what matters most to each person. In reality 5 and 6 are equal for me I can't decide. I prefer the dark and "despair" side of seasons 7 and 8 even if season 8 has USELESS episodes. Rather than 5 and 6 with the magic and endless love stories. I don't hate Paige and Henri. What I don't like is (I love you, I leave you, I love you, I leave you)
I think that's why our rankings differ from what we personally really like. If I classified my seasons by characters or by power balance. The classification would therefore also be different. For example I can't stand Phoebe in season 3 which I will rank last, she lies, is naive and stubborn. In the end it's a question of tastes and colors 🤣 for example I love science fiction and fantasy but I hate detective series. Reason why "Grimm" didn't appeal to me even though it should have.

It's a difficult thing to answer properly. Each season is different than the next. The show can have more standout episodes than a standout season overall. 

Objectively a season can be bad in general but have better standout episodes. Characters can be more beloved and liked in particular season. The demons and villains can be more interesting in certain seasons.

I love fantasy and Supernatural shows too like you. I get you with Grimm. I'm not much for a detective series myself but strangely Grimm appealed to me because of the Grimm fairytales and different supernatural entities week to week and the concepts.  Though it lost itself along the way. Plus it had that Buffy like feel with a Scooby gang. I seem to be into detective shows if it has a fantasy twist. I still have never watched an NCIS or police drama properly after all these years. I might one day though.

My partner loves Grimm, I looked next to him. I remember enjoying the later seasons where his wife (ex-wife? I don't remember!) dies of possession in the same way as Fred in Angel. It’s that darkness that I love! also a fan of Supernatural and Nos4A2 ! Buffy too of course!

[Aaeiyn]

Apr 3, 2024 5:18:13 GMT -5 goldeneye049 said:

That's probably why 1 and 2 are my favorites. They learn and work together. Piper leaves Dan but doesn't return with him. Prue too, although she probably would have gone back to Andy if he hadn't been killed. Leo is starting to annoy me. After these two seasons the bond of sisters breaks and is no longer the same and I have to fall back on other things that I love, namely darkness and danger. So we understand that I'm less of a fan of seasons 5 and 6 even if I love the episode "the eyes have it" it's incredible for me.

Yes, my data supports the S1-S2 fandom that ALL three sisters are indeed working, TOGETHER, in those seasons.

It does start to trail off in S3, like others suggest. HOWEVER, I still disagree on the whole PERSONALITY of the sisters have "changed", but the use of their basic powers being used TOGETHER definitely shifts. I WILL say S3 still shines, if we're talking about ANY ability being used and NOT just their basic powers. But, OFC, I understand the basic power argument. As the later seasons definitely abuse those other powers mainly Piper's exploding power and Paige's travel orbing.

In fact, if you want their basic powers being used, period (in the same episode), the statistics goes like this (and I'm being harsh and critical with which episodes I'm considering):

S1 = 15
S2 = 13
S3 = 5
S4 = 3
S5 = 1
S6 = 0
S7 = 0
S8 = 2

So, yes, S6 & S7 (despite me loving those seasons for their stories) really don't utilize the basic powers all that often especially ALL three using them, TOGETHER, in the SAME episode. Yes, S3-S5 & S8 will still show signs of secondary powers, but (at least) it recognizes the basic powers.

Whenever S6 & S7 DO utilize the basic powers, it NEVER exceeds passed TWO sisters, unfortunately.

Piper NEVER freezes in the following:
S6E3 "Forget Me, Not"
S6E15 "I Dream of Phoebe"
S7E8 "Charmed Noir"

Phoebe NEVER has a Premonition in the following:
S6E18 "Spin City"
S6E20 "A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right"
S6E22 "It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World, Pt 1"
S7E4 "Charrrmed!"
S7E6 "Once in a Blue Moon"
S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe"

Paige NEVER TK Orbs in the following:
S6E13 "Used Karma"

Yes, as we can see, Phoebe is often being held back from performing any abilities, let alone basic powers which is why I'm CONSTANTLY bringing her up, all the time.

[Aaeiyn]

Going back to my original order: 6 > 7 > 8 > 5. Even if Phoebe is utilized more in S5 than S8, I get better enjoyment out of S8 than I do S5 which is ultimately what it boils down to. I can see how S5 would rank a little higher for some. It's just hard for me, to enjoy S5 LOL

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lol this post is tied with

5786 and
7586

Ive been thinking about this a lot lately and I'm torn.

1,2,3,4,5,7,8,6 for me. it feels good having 4 and 5 in the middle as two halves of the series for me. I think Trial By magic/Lost and Bound is the mid-point for me.

I can't foregive bad pirates, werewolf periods and freaky phoebe but I can forgive Witches in Tights and the Titans.

Don't think I could forget Excalibur in season 6 of a Bad Bad Bad World

[Aaeiyn]

Jun 21, 2024 7:41:38 GMT -5 rebooted said:

lol this post is tied with

5786 and
7586

Ive been thinking about this a lot lately and I'm torn.

1,2,3,4,5,7,8,6 for me. it feels good having 4 and 5 in the middle as two halves of the series for me. I think Trial By magic/Lost and Bound is the mid-point for me.

I can't foregive bad pirates, werewolf periods and freaky phoebe but I can forgive Witches in Tights and the Titans.

Don't think I could forget Excalibur in season 6 of a Bad Bad Bad World

IDK why I had voted "8 > 7 > 6 > 5", at one point, but I did xD Probably one of those times I was datamining the show, and S8 was the most Warren Power friendly season compared to the rest of the S5-S8 bracket. IDK still doesn't make sense because S6 wasn't last LOL Anyway...

So, I switched it over to "6 > 7 > 8 > 5" which is equally tied for "first place". Sure, 2/3 rank S6 last, however this is an old poll, and those prior votes putting S6 last may not post around, anymore. I do know of 2 people who rank S6 last that still post around though.

And, those of us who put S6 first are still active and around and had done a full re-watch of it and realized, it's not too bad LOL

So, you're welcome, I guess? LOL

But, yeah "6 > 7 > 8 > 5" is now equally tied, for first place.

[Aaeiyn]

It is an interesting question, though. How Warren Power friendly is the S5-S8 bracket?

Piper freezes in 7 S5 episodes, 9 (2/9 nods to it) S6 episodes, 5 S7 episodes & 8 S8 episodes, making that: S6 > S8 > S5 > S7.

Phoebe has premonitions in 6 (2/6 are non-visual) S5 episodes, 4 (1/4 is off-screen) S6 episodes, 5 (1/5 is faked) S7 episodes & 3 S8 episodes, making that: S5 > S7 > S6 > S8.

Paige ACTUALLY TK-Orbs in 2 (1/2 is Miscellaneous) S5 episodes, 12 (4/12 influenced & 3/12 is Miscellaneous) S6 episodes, 12 (2/12 are Miscellaneous & 3/12 are influenced) & 14 (5/14 influenced & 1/14 is Miscellaneous) S8 episodes, making that: S8 > S7 > S6 > S5.

ALL three sisters using Warren Powers in the same episodes: 2 (1/2 was re-written + Paige only Basic TK-Orbed & 1/2 Phoebe's premonitions were non-visual + Paige's TK-Orb was Miscellaneous) S5 episodes, 0 (though, both Phoebe & Piper use their's in S6E13 "Used Karma", together, that's the only time, too, not counting other combos with Paige) S6 episodes, 0 (nod to it in S7E19 "Freaky Phoebe") S7 episodes & 3 (2/3 us influenced & 1/2 influence was semi-offscreen) S8 episodes, making that: S8 > S5 > S7 > S6 (Option 12 which no one has voted for LOL). You can probably flip S7 & S6 to how you like (option 10 to putting S6 > S7 which no one has voted for either).

So, yeah, IDK why I voted for S8 > S7 > S6 > S5, initially LOL

Probably because Phoebe only has premonitions in S7 & S8, but she has more premonitions in S5 than S6, so...

I'll have to dig into that mystery, at another time ;P

[Aaeiyn]

From the S5 vs S7 Thread:

Jul 3, 2024 13:35:18 GMT -5 Aaeiyn said:

I revised my S5-S8 list to see how each season added up the even-ness of "Protect/Save the Innocent(s)", "All Three Sisters Using Their Abilities/Powers (Original/Warren and/or Secondary)" & "Original/Warren Powers Only". Each season's position varies depending on what category you're looking for, and I averaged them all out to read: S5 > S7 > S6 > S8.

S5 > S7 > S6 > S8 is my new answer, right now.

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5786 for now. was 7586

[goldeneye049]

7>8>6>5 now. I didn't hate rewatching season 8. Of course I hate the episodes where they pretend to be dead, the magical community... and the finale of season 8 is way too incoherent. But overall I found the rest of season 8 quite nice. I felt like I had a memory of everything that happened for 7 seasons. Even more so, when Paige confessed to Henry that she was a witch, I felt PRUE'S presence! For what ? because the music used had not been heard since Prue (season 1) when she rides a horse with Brendan or when she takes the elevator (three Prues) I felt a lot of emotions at that moment- there knowing that Andy (police officer too) had not accepted.

[Aaeiyn]

I'm always changing my mind. S6 is never last, though. Though, I have been enjoying S8 more than S6, lately. Along with ALL THREE sisters being present and doing SOMETHING in the final fight/vanquish and not just standing there being useless...or not there, at all...

[rebooted]

Oct 23, 2024 6:28:23 GMT -5 goldeneye049 said:

7>8>6>5 now. I didn't hate rewatching season 8. Of course I hate the episodes where they pretend to be dead, the magical community... and the finale of season 8 is way too incoherent. But overall I found the rest of season 8 quite nice. I felt like I had a memory of everything that happened for 7 seasons. Even more so, when Paige confessed to Henry that she was a witch, I felt PRUE'S presence! For what ? because the music used had not been heard since Prue (season 1) when she rides a horse with Brendan or when she takes the elevator (three Prues) I felt a lot of emotions at that moment- there knowing that Andy (police officer too) had not accepted.

Omg YES!

I do like rewatching clips and scenes of Season 8. 

The finale is passable for me just because the guest stars come back. Grams is still cool. 

Yeah there is a nice Prue-Paige tribute with Paige telling Henry she's a witch and the similarities/differences with Andy and Prue. 

Paige heading towards 'finding enlightenment' and fulfilling her destiny to be a whitelighter and Prue leaving her job at Bucklands to pursue interest in photography parallel storylines as well. 

For me you could tell there was just no spark between the actors/sisters starting around Season 5 (or even during the in the LLtQ storyline) and I think that's where the show lost its sparkle. Maybe Not between Rose and Holly.

I still love rewatching Season 5 up until Baby's First Demon and I do like Sense and Sensibility. I think once it reaches the Nymphs I can't buy it any more (We just had Leprechauns!) . Add in the rip off introduction of Magic School in Season 6 - which could have been SOOO much better - and its become a desperate need for it to exist to keep people employed and make money in advertising spaces etc. 

The show went passed its 'Used By Date' before its 'Expiry Date' or shelf-life vs. fridge-life. It got Worse and Worser after steadily getting better in earlier seasons. 

But I agree its still a guilty pleasure of mine and some of Season 7 and Season 8 make you nostolgic for the earlier seasons. Paige and Henry and Zankou were great as well as the Woogy throwback, the Hollow (even though with poor continuity) and the beginning of the Avatars was ok with Kyra. 

Developing Phoebe's character better would have made the show far more interesting.

[Katie Warren]

Yeah, I think creatively the show had nowhere to go after S4. Yes, we still have good episodes, and I'm not saying everything in S5-S8 is trash.

What I meant creatively is how do you make any villain seem grand when you kill off the Source of ALL EVIL in season 4? That's your ultimate baddie, and it's questionable that he wasn't even written that way by C&D. But Charmed wasn't a great show with a good built-in mythology. It was all made up as it went along with the vibes.

A good run for a show is about 5 seasons. It is really hard for any series to keep things fresh and new for so many years. I'm relieved in some way the show ended when it did, I don't think the show getting an S9, 10, etc. would've done nothing but drag the quality down even more. It would've rebranded into the Piper and Leo show.

Now the good parts of the show are I do like Zankou as a villain and wish he was the Source. Lots of good standalone episodes and I do think the sisters have good chemistry in all the seasons. Now some episodes certain ones drive me up the wall, but there are highlights. When looking at each season, the last four just feel flat when it comes to building toward a great finish. Lots of good ideas but the execution could've been better.

[Aaeiyn]

It really does depend on what you're looking for. I remember a time, when I ranked S6 as my "second favorite" season right after S1 xD

TBH, I've never really been THAT into S2 nor S4. Even still, to this day. The only reason I rank them "higher" than the S5-S8 bracket, at all, is because of statistics. But, that just goes to show, statistics (boxes that get check marked) aren't everything. I do think S6 & S7 are pretty strong, when it comes to storytelling, and why they resonate with me more than S2 & S4. Despite, S6 & S7 not fulfilling the statistic quotas via original warren powers, all three being present (and actually contributing) in the final fight/vanquish, "protect the innocent", etc. S2 & S4 definitely have those, in the bag, I can tell you that much.  But, just because the "stats" are there, doesn't mean the storytelling is all that great which is VERY subjective and not as objective, as the stats.

With S5 not really being all the great in either scenario (story & stats), though it does beat out S7, by a little bit, in stats. The only thing I can give S5 credit for is I've ALWAYS loved Phoebe & Paige looks, in S5 (Phoebe's FH S5A hair, Paige's red hair). That's about it.

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Oct 23, 2024 20:53:42 GMT -5 Katie Warren said:

Yeah, I think creatively the show had nowhere to go after S4. Yes, we still have good episodes, and I'm not saying everything in S5-S8 is trash.

What I meant creatively is how do you make any villain seem grand when you kill off the Source of ALL EVIL in season 4? That's your ultimate baddie, and it's questionable that he wasn't even written that way by C&D. But Charmed wasn't a great show with a good built-in mythology. It was all made up as it went along with the vibes.

A good run for a show is about 5 seasons. It is really hard for any series to keep things fresh and new for so many years. I'm relieved in some way the show ended when it did, I don't think the show getting an S9, 10, etc. would've done nothing but drag the quality down even more. It would've rebranded into the Piper and Leo show.

Now the good parts of the show are I do like Zankou as a villain and wish he was the Source. Lots of good standalone episodes and I do think the sisters have good chemistry in all the seasons. Now some episodes certain ones drive me up the wall, but there are highlights. When looking at each season, the last four just feel flat when it comes to building toward a great finish. Lots of good ideas but the execution could've been better.

Yeah you are right - the actors do have good chemistry throughout. 

And yes, so many good ideas. the Chris storyline could have been phenomenal. It was ok I guess. 

[goldeneye049]

Oct 23, 2024 19:55:27 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Oct 23, 2024 6:28:23 GMT -5 goldeneye049 said:

7>8>6>5 now. I didn't hate rewatching season 8. Of course I hate the episodes where they pretend to be dead, the magical community... and the finale of season 8 is way too incoherent. But overall I found the rest of season 8 quite nice. I felt like I had a memory of everything that happened for 7 seasons. Even more so, when Paige confessed to Henry that she was a witch, I felt PRUE'S presence! For what ? because the music used had not been heard since Prue (season 1) when she rides a horse with Brendan or when she takes the elevator (three Prues) I felt a lot of emotions at that moment- there knowing that Andy (police officer too) had not accepted.

Omg YES!

I do like rewatching clips and scenes of Season 8. 

The finale is passable for me just because the guest stars come back. Grams is still cool. 

Yeah there is a nice Prue-Paige tribute with Paige telling Henry she's a witch and the similarities/differences with Andy and Prue. 

Paige heading towards 'finding enlightenment' and fulfilling her destiny to be a whitelighter and Prue leaving her job at Bucklands to pursue interest in photography parallel storylines as well. 

For me you could tell there was just no spark between the actors/sisters starting around Season 5 (or even during the in the LLtQ storyline) and I think that's where the show lost its sparkle. Maybe Not between Rose and Holly.

I still love rewatching Season 5 up until Baby's First Demon and I do like Sense and Sensibility. I think once it reaches the Nymphs I can't buy it any more (We just had Leprechauns!) . Add in the rip off introduction of Magic School in Season 6 - which could have been SOOO much better - and its become a desperate need for it to exist to keep people employed and make money in advertising spaces etc. 

The show went passed its 'Used By Date' before its 'Expiry Date' or shelf-life vs. fridge-life. It got Worse and Worser after steadily getting better in earlier seasons. 

But I agree its still a guilty pleasure of mine and some of Season 7 and Season 8 make you nostolgic for the earlier seasons. Paige and Henry and Zankou were great as well as the Woogy throwback, the Hollow (even though with poor continuity) and the beginning of the Avatars was ok with Kyra. 

Developing Phoebe's character better would have made the show far more interesting.

Yes, I can very easily imagine Prue sitting next to her little sister being emotional. In the end, it's mainly the inconsistencies in the show that pose a problem to me. They are really very big. I agree that the finale is passable and I even find it comforting to see the whole family again (except Prue, even as a child..). I agree with Aaaein, the mythology was built little by little and it's the worst thing to do. It seems that they never wrote the mythology that they invented as they went along in “a book of shadows” so as not to violate it. Damage. But I liked seeing 5-8 again, I hadn't done that in a long time. I was too harsh.

[Aaeiyn]

I've been disliking S7 more & more which is pretty sad because I used to really love that season. I must've like an episode or two and called it "liking S7" xD Though, after my stat sheet in the Magical Witches vs Practicing Witches thread, S7 redeemed itself, a little bit but not by much xD

[Katie Warren]

Oct 24, 2024 18:58:35 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Oct 23, 2024 20:53:42 GMT -5 Katie Warren said:

Yeah, I think creatively the show had nowhere to go after S4. Yes, we still have good episodes, and I'm not saying everything in S5-S8 is trash.

What I meant creatively is how do you make any villain seem grand when you kill off the Source of ALL EVIL in season 4? That's your ultimate baddie, and it's questionable that he wasn't even written that way by C&D. But Charmed wasn't a great show with a good built-in mythology. It was all made up as it went along with the vibes.

A good run for a show is about 5 seasons. It is really hard for any series to keep things fresh and new for so many years. I'm relieved in some way the show ended when it did, I don't think the show getting an S9, 10, etc. would've done nothing but drag the quality down even more. It would've rebranded into the Piper and Leo show.

Now the good parts of the show are I do like Zankou as a villain and wish he was the Source. Lots of good standalone episodes and I do think the sisters have good chemistry in all the seasons. Now some episodes certain ones drive me up the wall, but there are highlights. When looking at each season, the last four just feel flat when it comes to building toward a great finish. Lots of good ideas but the execution could've been better.

Yeah you are right - the actors do have good chemistry throughout. 

And yes, so many good ideas. the Chris storyline could have been phenomenal. It was ok I guess. 

Yeah so many good ideas just poorly done or wasted.

[Aaeiyn]

Bumping for prueislove , I'm always changing my mind LOL I think my new order is S8 > S6 > S5 > S7, though it really saddens me to put S7 last because if I'm not worried about statistics, it would win over S5. But, I'm trying to faithful to the statistics.

[prueislove]

Oh gosh I don't know lol, I can't rank them to be honest but maybe something like this.

1. Season 8
2. Season 7
3. Season 5
4. Season 6 (I don't like Chris lol he's too weird)

[Aaeiyn]

Nov 15, 2024 5:51:51 GMT -5 prueislove said:

Oh gosh I don't know lol, I can't rank them to be honest but maybe something like this.

1. Season 8
2. Season 7
3. Season 5
4. Season 6 (I don't like Chris lol he's too weird)

I have started to dislike Chris, lately. However, I just ignore him and enjoy the rest of the season for the rest of story building aspect. All good, though

I think IK how you'll rank S1-S4: S1 > S3 > S2 > S4. There is that thread here.