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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 30, 2023 1:24:14 GMT -5
If they're getting paid, they'll deliver. It won't be a good look to half ass it with more money and a company behind them. LOL I really hope they'll make an effort to have less guest stars and more people who worked behind the scenes on. Hopefully Holly will stop trashing the production team enough to allow the writers to share interesting stories on why they wrote episodes and plotlines the way they did. I'll be honest I find the interviews I did listen too in S1 with the guest stars kinda boring. It's the writers and directors who have more say into the characters and writing that I find more interesting to hear about. I don't care enough about hearing all the drama with the cast or how much Holly disliked the writing and such. I did like Tony Denison's (original Victor before James Read) input. Due to his enthusiasm about the show made me like his role in the episode much more than I initially did. |
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Post by greta on Dec 30, 2023 1:58:49 GMT -5
If they're getting paid, they'll deliver. It won't be a good look to half ass it with more money and a company behind them. LOL I really hope they'll make an effort to have less guest stars and more people who worked behind the scenes on. Hopefully Holly will stop trashing the production team enough to allow the writers to share interesting stories on why they wrote episodes and plotlines the way they did. I'll be honest I find the interviews I did listen too in S1 with the guest stars kinda boring. It's the writers and directors who have more say into the characters and writing that I find more interesting to hear about. I don't care enough about hearing all the drama with the cast or how much Holly disliked the writing and such. That depends if they still want to talk about Charmed. Many writers had a terrible toxic time under Kern. Here's hoping. I'd love to hear from Connie, Sheryl or Chris on the podcast. Maybe with more money behind it now, they will be able to get them on. Like are they really going to get the guest stars back AGAIN to re-do those interviews a second time. Better off getting different guests or production people we didn't hear during S1 and S2. I do hope they can get some of those writers on. LOL them having to bring the guests back on again. I wonder if they'll just recycle those interviews, but do some edits to them. Like are all of them going to want to come on again and re-tell the same stories again.  If they're getting paid, they'll deliver. It won't be a good look to half ass it with more money and a company behind them. LOL I really hope they'll make an effort to have less guest stars and more people who worked behind the scenes on. Hopefully Holly will stop trashing the production team enough to allow the writers to share interesting stories on why they wrote episodes and plotlines the way they did. I'll be honest I find the interviews I did listen too in S1 with the guest stars kinda boring. It's the writers and directors who have more say into the characters and writing that I find more interesting to hear about. I don't care enough about hearing all the drama with the cast or how much Holly disliked the writing and such. I did like Tony Denison's (original Victor before James Read) input. Due to his enthusiasm about the show made me like his role in the episode much more than I initially did. I didn't mind Tony's Victor (unpopular opinion). But with the backstory the show set up with Victor, Tony's portrayal fits. Just because he came across as more unlikeable compared to the second portrayal by James, doesn't mean it didn't fit. And we're only comparing one episode. I think it's unfair to judge, we have no idea if Tony stayed in the role, how he would've grown with the role and what his chemistry with Finola and Jennifer would've been like. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Dec 30, 2023 2:31:23 GMT -5
I didn't mind Tony's Victor (unpopular opinion). But with the backstory the show set up with Victor, Tony's portrayal fits. Just because he came across as more unlikeable compared to the second portrayal by James, doesn't mean it didn't fit. And we're only comparing one episode. I think it's unfair to judge, we have no idea if Tony stayed in the role, how he would've grown with the role and what his chemistry with Finola and Jennifer would've been like. While true, he was only in it for one episode, but sometimes one episode is all you need. A LOT of people like Piper & Mark, but they were only one episode. Yet, that one episode has a lot of fans, for it. I didn't hate Tony Denison's version, just didn't like it as much as James Read. Besides Tony Denison's enthusiasm, a small group of my friends and myself have a little inside joke with the Tony Denison episode which helped us view it differently than before. Besides Tony Denison's input, what I like about his version of Victor is not being a complete idiot about magic, like James Read's version is. And, James Read was on longer than Tony Denison's. While, it only took one episode, for Tony Denison's version to have more of an impact on being more knowledgable about magic and even working with demons (or evil beings, like the Shapeshifters) to help protect his daughters. I don't think we ever saw James Read's version work to that extent, despite being on for more episodes than Tony Denison's. |
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Post by elmoretti on Jan 14, 2024 3:41:50 GMT -5
Well, as I understand from twitter news:
a. they officially closed patreon
And I keep wondering - fans who paid for subscription at least save they access for videos? Or hoh'team deleting and cleaning everything?
b. they get new host in podcast.
I hope this is not Doherty or McGowan.
Because Phoebe's fans deserve finally start hear talking about their favorite in posdcast that dedicated to the show. And with those two it will be non stop story about "how good i'm and bad everyone around me". Brrr.
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Post by lunchking on Jan 14, 2024 3:46:15 GMT -5
Well, as I understand from twitter news: a. they officially closed patreon And I keep wondering - fans who paid for subscription at least save they access for videos? Or hoh'team deleting and cleaning everything? b. they get new host in podcast. I hope this is not Doherty or McGowan. Because Phoebe's fans deserve finally start hear talking about their favorite in posdcast that dedicated to the show. And with those two it will be non stop story about "how good i'm and bad everyone around me". Brrr. Which is why I'm starting to think it shouldn’t be an actor at all as the fourth, It should be someone who worked behind the scenes like a write, director or producer. We need a perspective from the making of the show from that POV. But I won't be mad if it's Shannen or Rose. It'll be more moderated I'm sure. I doubt they'll be off topic like HOA. It'll be more professional with a bigger named podcast company behind them. I don't think they'll bash them if they have bigger sponsors and money behind it. It'll be more like the other ones around that really talk about the episodes and follow a structure every episode. |
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Post by elmoretti on Jan 14, 2024 5:35:20 GMT -5
Which is why I'm starting to think it shouldn’t be an actor at all as the fourth, It should be someone who worked behind the scenes like a write, director or producer. We need a perspective from the making of the show from that POV. Heh. I understand that this will be never happens but imagine if there new host will be Connie. Stories, note and perspective from the show creator. Ah, dreams 😊 |
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Post by rebooted on Jan 14, 2024 6:13:07 GMT -5
<insert a Holly Marie Combs rant in 25 years about falling out with/having work difficulties with Drew or Brain in the original HoH podcast here>
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Post by elmoretti on Jan 14, 2024 6:24:00 GMT -5
<insert a Holly Marie Combs rant in 25 years about falling out with/having work difficulties with Drew or Brain in the original HoH podcast here> Thank you for this. I don't think I laughed so hard on whole week 😂 |
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Post by Olga Halliwell on Jan 14, 2024 16:09:40 GMT -5
<insert a Holly Marie Combs rant in 25 years about falling out with/having work difficulties with Drew or Brain in the original HoH podcast here> Honestly I'm somewhat bored with Holly. I've heard her enough, that she has nothing really left to offer, we've heard ALL her stories. She's attends the conventions like 50 times a year. What has she said that we haven't already heard a million times before. LOL I really feel hearing from someone like Connie is way more interesting, because we've never heard from her before. To get a real understanding of the creation of Charmed. Like elmoretti and lunchking stated, new perspectives.
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Post by Emmett on Jan 14, 2024 16:16:02 GMT -5
<insert a Holly Marie Combs rant in 25 years about falling out with/having work difficulties with Drew or Brain in the original HoH podcast here> If she's so miserable, she should quit ahead, and not come back for this new revamped podcast. She's going to have to sit through S1 and S2 again recapping those, and she really doesn't like S1 I believe. She's going to have to contain herself with her rants and be more professional if this new revamped podcast is being more mainstream with a bigger platform. Like Holly herself often says herself "I wish her well". LOL |
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Post by missjessica on Jan 14, 2024 16:26:07 GMT -5
I wonder what they'll do this time around. Are they really going to call back all those guest stars to retell their stories again or just go seek out other people we didn't hear from the first time.
It may never happen, like the others above, It'll be so cool to see Connie part of it. I suppose they have other writers and producers to pick from. We shall see.
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Post by rebooted on Jan 15, 2024 4:16:50 GMT -5
I wonder what they'll do this time around. Are they really going to call back all those guest stars to retell their stories again or just go seek out other people we didn't hear from the first time. It may never happen, like the others above, It'll be so cool to see Connie part of it. I suppose they have other writers and producers to pick from. We shall see. If they really do a good job of it and it is video recorded live (i mean streamed... but I am a millennial), it would be good if they could cut parts out of the guest stars snippits and from the previous HoH podcast and then ad new content. It would be great if they could review the story, direction, writing, character devleopment, angles and effects. It would be great if they could really show us which way the direction of the show was going at different parts. Alyssa Milano's mum has probably put in a an order or something legal to refrain them from talking crap and eye rolling 'the other one' as they call her.... or even 'her'. Its honestly pathetic esp because these people have been close to death and have had kids of their own. I wish they could just take it for what it was... which was a ground breaking show in the 90s with all that misoginistic pressure. In a way, if they did do a spin off - it would be interesting if they had wiccan siblings who also inherit a business - much like Succession and Brother and Sisters, where they have to come together but be ruthless businesswomen as well, mirroring the Actresses behaviours on the set. I'm kind of joking but it looks like the off screen drama really is now more interesting that any sort of reboot, continuation, remake and regardless of what people say.... it does have an affect when you watch the show now because I am wondering whether around THIS episode - is this where Alyssa was making it hard to work with Rose on the set. Or was THIS the time Alyssa was leaked Shannen's salary. Holly said that all of the tension happened behind the scenes in trailers. That sounds more interesting then bringing back Prue and Phoebe on a greenscreen now. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 15, 2024 5:33:26 GMT -5
I know from the Smallville podcast series that a detailed synopsis of whatever episode thereon is read out by Michael with him and Tom pausing some points throughout talking about behind-the-scenes stuff which went on e.g. how Tom felt when acting a particular scene or what it was like working with the crew as well.
Michael and Tom love doing the podcast because they still have an affinity for the show after all these years and know it's respected and spoken about by fans too.
They also know what people want to see or hear which they stick with and don't veer off from or rant about either.
If the rebooted Charmed podcast did something similar along those lines or other things not too different then maybe more people would watch or listen in obviously.
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Post by Too Much Coffee on Jan 15, 2024 17:31:22 GMT -5
It would be nice to see the podcast reboot be much more focused on the entire episodes stories abs not cater to just certain aspects of the episodes.
I know this may be unpopular but I feel adding a fourth new host may be a bad idea Too many voices can be too much and lead to too much talking over each other. Hopefully they can manage doing it as a foursome and can stay on topic.
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Post by elmoretti on Jan 24, 2024 1:58:16 GMT -5
And new host is Shannen ;(
Holly confirmed this in one of the last convention.
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Post by West on Jan 24, 2024 2:11:43 GMT -5
If Shannen is on, I wonder if Rose will replace Shannen for S4-S8, unless Shannen is interested in seeing what happened after she left. I have a feeling Rose will be a new host when they get to S4-S8.
I do hope they'll surprise us with a huge get like Connie or one of the writers. Maybe Ted King or Alyssa Milano. But Alyssa seems unlikely.
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Post by rebooted on Jan 24, 2024 4:49:33 GMT -5
If Shannen is on, I wonder if Rose will replace Shannen for S4-S8, unless Shannen is interested in seeing what happened after she left. I have a feeling Rose will be a new host when they get to S4-S8. I do hope they'll surprise us with a huge get like Connie or one of the writers. Maybe Ted King or Alyssa Milano. But Alyssa seems unlikely. I feel like it will be disappointing because it will all be about would be how they were wronged. I think there are synergies between Pity Party Prue and Shannen Doherty. A few Mary Sue complex - but thats my opinion. HMC seems like an snarky enabler, Alyssa Milano is def a narcissist and Rose, well I probably empathise with her the most but I don't believe she should have signed on to Charmed, nor been asked too. I that it was all wrong in the beginning when SD was adamant to have HMC play a sister (or else!) and their should have either been 1 clear lead or 3 star power leads who are just professional actors, not interfering with the script, writing or character development. |
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Post by Assassin Witch on Jan 24, 2024 16:55:23 GMT -5
When you say new host, what does that mean? Who are *all* the hosts?
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Post by West on Jan 24, 2024 17:04:01 GMT -5
When you say new host, what does that mean? Who are *all* the hosts? Shannen is going to be the new co-host alongside Drew, Brian and Holly apparently for the relaunched podcast. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Jan 24, 2024 18:32:24 GMT -5
I feel like it will be disappointing because it will all be about would be how they were wronged. A lot of people (not us but more casual fans) want answer to these questions, though, even if it's 20+ years later. So, I can kind of understand that. I think there are synergies between Pity Party Prue and Shannen Doherty. A few Mary Sue complex - but thats my opinion. I agree with you, though. Part of my issue with the Prue character, and the "praise" her character receives is probably due to some (not all) fans of the show not knowing how to separate the art from the artist and only liking the Prue character by default because it's Shannen Doherty. HMC seems like an snarky enabler Flip flopper, yes. Enabler? Not really. Alyssa Milano is def a narcissist Agree. Rose, well I probably empathise with her the most but I don't believe she should have signed on to Charmed, nor been asked too. But why, though? Why should she have "never" signed onto the show? Also, why should she have never been asked to? I do like her character (separate from the actor), and her relationship with Henry is like the healthiest relationship we see on the show. Along with how open and honest Paige's character was regarding the family secret and didn't prolong it compared to the Prue Era Set of sisters. I that it was all wrong in the beginning when SD was adamant to have HMC play a sister (or else!) and their should have either been 1 clear lead or 3 star power leads who are just professional actors, not interfering with the script, writing or character development. I'm torn between this. While, I do agree actors should know their place, I appreciate the integrity Shannen holds, within her work. It's nice of Shannen to stick up for her friend but (also) unprofessional of her to do. Which makes me understand how Milano (despite me not liking her, as a person) felt like the "third wheel", in this show. Which is why odd numbered groups are tricky. One will ALWAYS feel like the "third wheel". I agree that the show should've been MORE balanced between the three of them and not just Prue, Prue, PRUE. Thanks Connie (as it was her idea/most of her episodes she's credited for are Prue focused, but I digress) for NOT understanding BALANCE. But, you know, it's your show, do whatever you want, but I digress.
I (also) feel like there's too much praise for Connie (due to being bullied off of her own creation) and not enough CRITICISM toward her direction, when she's just AS guilty as Kern for pushing a particular actor more in the front lines. Burge for Shannen and Kern for Milano. None for Holly nor Rose, unfortunately. |
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