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Post by ljones on Jun 15, 2009 13:09:26 GMT -5
Hi my name is Chloe and I think the most common CHARMED promlem is then being a witch. That is just my theary. Thank you love Chloe ;D You mean that the show's portrayal of witches was its main problem? |
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Post by invisiblehush on Jun 17, 2009 18:06:10 GMT -5
I agree the basics were never set in stone,
DOB for any of them you would have thought they would have set that in the guidelines when writing the story.
Also the reason the girls didn't go to live with Victor after Patty died? I know they stayed with Grams but surely the girls must have lived in a house with Patty and Victor once.
Also in Morality bites the daughter that they foresaw I think it should have been a girl they had first, I( understand the wyatt and Chris thing but think a girl would have been a nicer touch xx
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 6, 2009 12:05:23 GMT -5
That's evident in "That 70's Episode". If those girls (and Andy) are all under 5 years in age--especially if Piper is only two or three--I'll eat my first three seasons of DVDs! Ditto for the girls in the video in "Thank You For Not Morphing." It's why I always thought that Phoebe was at least 5 years younger than Prue and Piper and never believed dates that said otherwise. Even Prue's tombstone made no sense to me--if that was supposed to be 1975, looking at those kids, 1970 should've been Piper's birthyear, not Prue's--Prue should've been 8 years old in 1975 (meaning she'd be alive during "Witchstock"--yeah, right!) (also meaning that she should've been older in "P3 H20" when Patty died) and Piper should've been 5.
I thought that Connie Burge based the sisters on herself and her own sisters. You would've thought that she would've used their ages and their birthdays and make sure that at least the shows produced while she was in charge (the first two seasons) would've been consistent with those, and they're anything but, which is very disappointing.
Things that have to do with the sisters' ages and their birthdates is definitely Charmed's most common problem.
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Post by moonlightmagic on Aug 7, 2009 14:37:32 GMT -5
Ah, a change in venue.....very nicely done Es.....
And for this you have been blessed......
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Post by ghostrider on Aug 16, 2009 22:53:25 GMT -5
Brad Kern.....as yes, I think he just might be a bit common.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Aug 18, 2009 19:21:01 GMT -5
Brad Kern.....as yes, I think he just might be a bit common. *nods* Yeah, that kinda sums it up. Sadly, it does not explain birthdate issues. *sighs* |
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Post by ghostrider on Aug 18, 2009 22:56:18 GMT -5
I know....and after my post on 8-13 in Ironic Continuity?.....I have thrown in the towel. Try as I might...I just could not be the voice of reason....I hate that when it happens.
This is not Patty's fault....it's Brad's doing.....in my perfect world
I see him being burned at the stake.....
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 25, 2009 2:53:56 GMT -5
I don't think I've posted this one yet. Here's some dialogue from 7x03's "Cheaper By The Coven":
If Penny had sat Piper "and her sisters" down, that means Phoebe had to have been older than a newborn, which was when her powers were bound. Yet, from the premiere episode:
Not only did they not know she was a magical witch, they didn't even know she was a practising Wiccan. When she had her coven over, she disguised them as her "bridge club" and then sent the girls outside to play, as we found out in 2x17.
The idea that she sat them all down and told them that she was a witch - even just a Wiccan practitioner - flies in the face of everything we know about the sisters never having an idea of their witchy heritage.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Aug 25, 2009 10:47:24 GMT -5
..Could be that Grams told them and just erased them memories...
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 25, 2009 11:18:24 GMT -5
But that doesn't really make sense as to why she would ask Piper if she remembered if she had also erased their memories. Or why she would take the time to sit them down and tell them in the first place if she was just going to erase their memories and then make a point to hide her witchcraft from them.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 26, 2009 11:45:51 GMT -5
*shrug* That's just Kern doing his usual bit of rewriting history to suit what he wants to have happen and pretending what happened in S1-2 never happened. Just think of S3-8 as an alternate universe of S1-2 and inconsistencies won't bother you quite as much if you think otherwise.
*laughs at self* Actually the better way is to think of each individual S3-8 episode as its own alternate universe. Since Kern always twisted the mythology to fit his episode and not vice versa, you'll get much less of a headache if you just do it that way.
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Dec 9, 2009 13:32:32 GMT -5
I guess the thing that gets to me the most regarding 'mistakes' would have to be what whitelightertony said- Shannen was not included in the last segment of the show with all of the pictures on the wall and this was a bummer. Obviously, most (if not all of us) know that budget restraints led to some bad decision-making in the final season. Granted, if Shannen's picture was included on the wall, she would had to of been paid her regular episodic-fee (which they could NOT afford by any means). I'm sure that all of you "Charmed" fanatics are aware of this, but when Shannen left the show long before it ended, she continued to own 5% of the rights to the series. Having said that, it's kinda dissapointing that the creators didn't at least ask her about the situation. I mean, maybe even if she agreed to the picture, SAG rules specified that she needs to be paid for that. And that was obviously out of the question... But seeing as how Shannen was such a big part of the series and still owned a certain percentage of the show, it is appauling that thing's didn't go the way they should have. Honestly, seeing as how they kept Prue's memory alive in the final episode, it was inappropriate not to have a picture of her included. I remember that when I watched the series finale, that Brad Kern said that Shannen wasn't asked about it; correct me if I am wrong, though! If she was asked, you think Shannen would have been able to realize that it was one of her most famous characters next to Brenda Walsh and that it would have been fitting for her to participate in some way. Wasn't S.D the reason why S1-S3 came to DVD so much later? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 9, 2009 15:25:23 GMT -5
No. That was due to the fact that they had to get permission from all of the people who performed at P3 to have their faces and songs shown where they could easily be copied.
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Dec 10, 2009 22:13:51 GMT -5
No. That was due to the fact that they had to get permission from all of the people who performed at P3 to have their faces and songs shown where they could easily be copied. ohhhhh... i just heard from somewhere that she didn't want to give permission or wouldn't for a while, but i could be wrong. Anyways, I found another huge error. In the episode where two gypsies are killed and their eyes gouged out, the Charmed One's help another young gypsy embrace her magical heritage, Ava. However, several episodes later, she is referred to as Eve and played by another actress. I don't mind other characters being replaced by different actresses and in fact, the other girl reminded me of the original.... but, not getting the name right seems kind of bad. |
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Dec 15, 2009 12:20:02 GMT -5
Anyways, I found another huge error. In the episode where two gypsies are killed and their eyes gouged out, the Charmed One's help another young gypsy embrace her magical heritage, Ava. However, several episodes later, she is referred to as Eve and played by another actress. I don't mind other characters being replaced by different actresses and in fact, the other girl reminded me of the original.... but, not getting the name right seems kind of bad. What? I don't remember this. Which episode did this happen in? I would like to rewatch this episode. |
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Dec 15, 2009 16:27:18 GMT -5
Anyways, I found another huge error. In the episode where two gypsies are killed and their eyes gouged out, the Charmed One's help another young gypsy embrace her magical heritage, Ava. However, several episodes later, she is referred to as Eve and played by another actress. I don't mind other characters being replaced by different actresses and in fact, the other girl reminded me of the original.... but, not getting the name right seems kind of bad. What? I don't remember this. Which episode did this happen in? I would like to rewatch this episode. It was in Season 5. Its called The Eyes Have it. www.imdb.com/title/tt0539447/plotsummary |
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Dec 15, 2009 20:46:00 GMT -5
No, I remember "The Eyes Have It," I meant which episode did they refer to her as Eve and recast her? |
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Post by Quadquetra on Dec 15, 2009 20:52:26 GMT -5
No, I remember "The Eyes Have It," I meant which episode did they refer to her as Eve and recast her? It was Centennial charmed in the beginning, heres who they recast her with www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?pid=226456&fullsize=1I thought they called her ava in the episode but just said it differently or to fast but either way she was recast. |
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Dec 16, 2009 0:22:01 GMT -5
No, I remember "The Eyes Have It," I meant which episode did they refer to her as Eve and recast her? It was Centennial charmed in the beginning, heres who they recast her with www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?pid=226456&fullsize=1I thought they called her ava in the episode but just said it differently or to fast but either way she was recast. They definitely called her Eve in CC: Paige calls her Eve and then Phoebe calls her Eve again a few minutes later. But in TEHI, it definitely sounds like Ava, not Eva. It probably is a continuity error, unless everyone in the episode was misprouncing Ava. Or, the person who wrote CC thought that Lydia was saying "Eva" because of her accent. The only way I can think of it making sense in the context of the show is that "Eve" could be a nickname for Ava, in the same way that Bill is used as a nickname for William. Or, "Eva" could be pronounced Ava (but spelt with the E), hence an "Eve" nickname, although I've always seen her name spelt as Ava.  |
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Dec 17, 2009 11:35:37 GMT -5
They definitely called her Eve in CC: Paige calls her Eve and then Phoebe calls her Eve again a few minutes later. But in TEHI, it definitely sounds like Ava, not Eva. It probably is a continuity error, unless everyone in the episode was misprouncing Ava. Or, the person who wrote CC thought that Lydia was saying "Eva" because of her accent. The only way I can think of it making sense in the context of the show is that "Eve" could be a nickname for Ava, in the same way that Bill is used as a nickname for William. Or, "Eva" could be pronounced Ava (but spelt with the E), hence an "Eve" nickname, although I've always seen her name spelt as Ava. It definitely doesn't make sense for her to be called Eve. Her name was always spelt as Ava and throughout the Eyes Have It, she was always called Ava, not once Eve- its an error. |
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