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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 6, 2007 19:35:31 GMT -5
Yes, which I have always wondered about. How does he gain access to an alternative future? From the Triad?
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 7, 2007 3:34:56 GMT -5
My guess is that Dumain had some sort of "contact" from an otherworldly agent of Evil who crossed over from that timeline.
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Post by ljones on Nov 7, 2007 10:48:43 GMT -5
Why is chaos viewed as evil?  Why would any demon want to bring chaos on earth, when its already here? |
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 7, 2007 18:55:22 GMT -5
Well, either we have an anarchist here or someone really disdains the confusion inherent in today's world.
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 8, 2007 2:22:42 GMT -5
I meant that an evil creature who existed in the future reality from "Chris Crossed" (where adult Wyatt rules San Francisco, drunk with power) didn't like having to to answer to Wyatt...so he could have time-traveled backward to before Wyatt began his descent into evil, and approached Dumain with a "holographic codicil" that had captured those events as we saw them in "Chris Crossed."
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Post by ljones on Nov 8, 2007 11:56:32 GMT -5
Well, either we have an anarchist here or someone really disdains the confusion inherent in today's world. Let me get this straight. You're calling me an anarchist because I had said that I don't view chaos as evil? Are you always in the habit of calling people names because their moral compass doesn't match yours? |
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 8, 2007 19:04:31 GMT -5
Sensitive, aren't we? No, I was simply pointing out that not everyone shares the belief that order is paramount in importance. Anarchists see chaos, perhaps, as the necessary by-product of a system of governance where maximal freedoms are accorded to the individual. Libertarians, too for that matter, might be willing to accept a bit of chaos at the expense of government regulation.
I have a problem with both of these points of view since I don't particularly subscribe to the notion that humans can permanently live with or tolerate over extended lengths of time a certain degree of chaos. I think it's in our nature to create order out of disorder. Now, there is order and there is ORDER. Lest I be called a totalitarian, I am not in favor of the Avatar idea of ORDER.
Question Authority is a good slogan, to an extent. I prefer to both question authority and master material in order to destroy a given structure on its own terms in order to replace it with something better. If that makes me a revolutionary, then so be it. But, I am miles, nay light-years, from anarchism or libertarianism.
As for your moral compass: I have no idea which direction it points towards. THAT has befuddled me for many, many months. I prefer not to dwell on it!
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Post by whitelightertony on Nov 8, 2007 20:33:23 GMT -5
You're not the only one, VG.
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Post by ljones on Nov 8, 2007 21:50:46 GMT -5
Like you, I also had problems with the Avatars' idea of ORDER. But I believe that no matter how much humans try to create order out of disorder, in the end they will fail. I believe that the natural state of this world is basically disorder or chaos. That comes from my belief that there are no real certainties in life . . . no matter how much we try to achieve certainty.
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 9, 2007 18:58:09 GMT -5
Well, I have no problem with that idea either. If you will, I believe there is a tendency towards entropy. We struggle - as Sissyphus did - to maintain order amid the tendency towards entropy. It takes a lot of effort and over certain periods of time it can achieve a modicum of success. Still, I'm not going to place my head in the sand and bemoan the ever-shifting sands of serendipity.
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Why would any demon want to bring chaos on earth, when its already here?