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Post by The Original P3 on May 23, 2006 15:38:45 GMT -5
They knew about the Triad and Dumain and Christy. She was still alive in their time since the ultimate battle was stopped so Christy, check. They knew about an unnamed demon stealing Coop's ring and taking Wyatt. Unnamed demon aka Dumain, check. Then they knew they had to go back in order to restore Wyatt's powers which would be before the Hollow was summoned so the Triad would still be alive. Triad, check. And what they were going to do with it? They wanted to spread peace and love all over the world... Yeaa..so back in reality, it's clear that they needed the ring to time travel and the state they found Coop in shows that whoever took the ring was not a happy person who wanted to spread love. Spell concentrates on Christy, unnamed demon, and the Triad. That's plenty. Even if the spell wasn't completely accurate, they still would have reached their destination with all the power they had with them. With that much power, there could be room for flaw and still be accurate.
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Post by charmedgoddess on May 23, 2006 15:48:28 GMT -5
They knew about the Triad and Dumain and Christy. She was still alive in their time since the ultimate battle was stopped so Christy, check. They knew about an unnamed demon stealing Coop's ring and taking Wyatt. Unnamed demon aka Dumain, check. Then they knew they had to go back in order to restore Wyatt's powers which would be before the Hollow was summoned so the Triad would still be alive. Triad, check. And what they were going to do with it? They wanted to spread peace and love all over the world... Yeaa..so back in reality, it's clear that they needed the ring to time travel and the state they found Coop in shows that whoever took the ring was not a happy person who wanted to spread love. Spell concentrates on Christy, unnamed demon, and the Triad. That's plenty. Even if the spell wasn't completely accurate, they still would have reached their destination with all the power they had with them. With that much power, there could be room for flaw and still be accurate. They thought the triad was dead, and they didn't know Dumain was working for them, plus Christy wasn't around when the ring was stolen. They would not have pieced all that together for a spell!!! If Billie hadn't been there all they would know was Christy and Billie were alive, needed to be killed and Coop got his ring stolen by some unknown demon. because it was after they killed the triad and before they fought billie and Christy and by the time they would have gotten back to when they thought wyatt got his powers stolen. It would have been too late. Christy and Dumain would have warned the triad. Wyatt would have been taken sooner and Billie and Christy would gotten the hollow before the charmed ones.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 23, 2006 15:55:18 GMT -5
If they took the ring after the Triad was killed and before the battle, wouldn't it make sense that they got the ring to go back and warn the Triad? The Charmed Ones are not first time witches. They've figured out complicated situations before and I have no doubt that they would have been able to again. Unnamed demon steals time travel ring, demons = evil, Billie & Christy = evil, and Wyatt was taken from Victors by same unnnamed demon and Piper had already figured out that Billie and Christy took his powers.
Let's add it up. Unnamed demon takes Wyatt from Victors + Piper learns that Billie and Christy stole her son's powers + battle not fought + Triad dead + same unnamed demon taking Coop's time travel ring = Enough pieces to the puzzle to come to the conlusion of when they needed to write the spell to return themselves to in order to stop them from warning the Triad.
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Post by charmedgoddess on May 23, 2006 18:53:14 GMT -5
Thats true that they figure out complex situations for example in it's a bad bad world part 1 & 2 but it took them a good while to figure it out. To me it just doesn't seem they would have figured it out time; when Dumain's plan was already in motion and so I guess we are at a empass.
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Post by The Original P3 on May 23, 2006 19:03:09 GMT -5
Well in the end I think both scenarios worked out. Yours is just the one that actually happened, but I just think it's plausible that the Charmed Ones could have succeeded without Billie's help.
But to each their own. This was the friendliest debate I've ever had. LOL.
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Post by Kit-the-cat on May 24, 2006 7:06:24 GMT -5
Ok, i have noticed that on some peoples sig's there are things saying " Piper saved Leo" and on other peoples it says " Billie saved Leo"
So who did actually save Leo?
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Post by charmedgoddess on May 24, 2006 7:24:49 GMT -5
It was both, they ended up working together. We are debating whether it could have been done without Billie.
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Post by Kit-the-cat on May 24, 2006 7:37:21 GMT -5
Great so that means Billie isnt dead. I am glad that she saved Leo.
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Post by charmedgoddess on May 24, 2006 9:14:34 GMT -5
yeah me too!! I am glad things worked out the way they did
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Post by The Original P3 on May 24, 2006 12:06:20 GMT -5
It was both, they ended up working together. We are debating whether it could have been done without Billie. Actually, originally the debate was about Vaya Con Leos. How Piper pulled every connection known to the magical universe to save her husbands life vs. Billie handing over a crystal.
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Post by rebeccamatthews on May 24, 2006 17:33:16 GMT -5
Yup, that's how the origianl debate started.
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Post by rebeccamatthews on May 24, 2006 23:01:05 GMT -5
glad tha fight's over.
For my French class we had to create a job advertisement, and the name I chose was P. Kyle. I think it was on my bus ride home I was thinking and then I thought of 8Simple Rules and then of Bridget then of her ex Kyle.
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Post by Stormythomas on May 25, 2006 0:48:09 GMT -5
....that fight showed me how competitive some of you guys are.... Tell me about it
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Post by Kit-the-cat on May 25, 2006 2:44:11 GMT -5
Personally i didnt understand the fight or what it was about. But i think that it was very clever how Kern and the other writers ( if there is any lol) tricked us into believing that BIllie was good.
But from what i can gather she is 'good' so really i think it is very good how Kern tricked us twice with this character. Interesting lol
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Post by Paige Matthews on Jul 19, 2006 16:56:54 GMT -5
I liked Billy untill she got manipulated by that horrible Christy
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Post by rebeccamatthews on Jul 20, 2006 5:26:43 GMT -5
Two words for Billie: Blonde Bomshell.
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Post by Elder on Oct 3, 2006 19:38:33 GMT -5
So is/was Billie the person Paige was supposed to look after or not? Seems strange that you would give a person dubbed "the (key to) the ultimate power" as needing a whitelighter.
I don't think they explored that very much...or at all.
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Post by carlylenz on Oct 3, 2006 21:46:58 GMT -5
Seems strange that you would give a person dubbed "the (key to) the ultimate power" as needing a whitelighter. I don't think they explored that very much...or at all. Billie was the ultimate power...Christy was the key. And I think the elders had Billie be Paige's charge that way in the end, she would know that the sister's were right. (And thats only if they knew Billie was the ultimate power)
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Post by chrmd4life on Oct 11, 2006 19:47:17 GMT -5
I've noticed in several places that people feel that Billy and Christy's powers developed to quickly. I have a question about that...
If Phoebe's evil baby had powers from the womb that almost consumed phoebe, is it possible that their powers were designed to grow rapidly and uncontrollably? Just thinking out loud.
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