Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 10, 2010 12:55:38 GMT -5
I just found this on another site. FINALLY, the whole idea of who can be Charmed and who can't finally makes sense! Someone figured a way to get through Es' thick skull!Poster #1: Im new to this but the show started out with the power of 3 ..So if its 2 and half hows this work? ? Poster #2: I have no idea what you're talking about....although I'm only midway through season 4 so I may be missing your true meaning... Poster #3: I have watched the show countless times and have no idea what he is talking about either. Poster #4 (me): I think she means the fact that after Prue dies, it's two full sisters and a half-sister, not three full sisters.
If that's the case, as Grams explains, because Paige is a half-sister on their mother's side, a sister witch, she is able to reconstitute The Charmed Ones with Piper and Phoebe. The fact that she is also whitelighter on her father's side is an added bonus. Poster #3: Oh right...I thought he was getting confused with two and a half men or something.  Poster #2:
if thats what they meant...
I'm pretty sure the "3" in power of three refers to the 3 charmed ones, not 3 sisters
Poster #4 (me): Except that according to Melinda Warren, it was supposed to be three sisters descended from her who would be able to become Charmed by harnessing The Power of Three.
I can see how the OP got confused. Poster #1: JustEs thats what I was trying to get at..3 sisters..oh well I guess you only need 3 of anyone who can work magic to have the power of 3 Poster #5: Her prophecy was 3 sisters. Not 3 full blood sisters. Half sisters are still sisters.
Besides, considering the episode All Halliwell's Eve, wouldn't it make more sense if the prophecy came from the Melinda's mother telling her about the 3 powerful witches who help her come into the world? Of course she wouldn't know about Paige then. Poster #4 (me): *nods* I think you hit the nail directly on the head.
Thank you.
I take back everything I ever said about Phoebe's three daughters the only ones who could be the next to be Charmed because Phoebe is the only one who had three daughters.
See? I can admit when I'm wrong.
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Post by Astral Echo on Apr 10, 2010 13:01:11 GMT -5
You might be right there. And we'll never know what MW saw in her vision during S1. It will forever remain a mystery.  |
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Post by Elder on Apr 10, 2010 13:45:05 GMT -5
Is there a teeny tiny chance that Melinda's first vision in the 1620s saw one set of sisters and her 1998 vision saw something else? Can that happen? |
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Post by CharmedFaith on Apr 10, 2010 13:59:47 GMT -5
Is there a teeny tiny chance that Melinda's first vision in the 1620s saw one set of sisters and her 1998 vision saw something else? Can that happen? Of course that could have happened. And as far as her prophecy, ofcourse she isnt going to say "3 full sisters can be Charmed", there is no way even if she saw Paige that she woudl be able to know that she was only their half sister. Hell even if they had a step sister, then they could be Charmed just by going by the generic "3 sisters". But one thing I always wished would be addressed is the possibility that the Po3 was weaker after Prue died due to Piper/Phoebe/Paiges bond never getting as strong as their bond with Prue (for S4-8) |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 11, 2010 0:10:22 GMT -5
I wrote a paper on this last year and have come to the conclusion that Melinda was speaking of the original sisters, Prue, Piper and Phoebe.
But when Prue died, Paige was put into the equation and was able to recreate the prophecy.
So I think that Melinda's prophecy only referred to Prue/Piper/Phoebe, but because of destiny and change of events, Paige was able to recreate the Power of Three, not 'specifically' Melinda's original prophecy but a prophecy followed by the same claim.
They took her prophecy and continued it.
But as I think about it now:
it might have been destiny that Paige later join? Prue was destined to die, Grams said that their destiny still awaits. Maybe Melinda Prophecy referred to all 4 of the sisters but she didn't really know it a the time.
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Apr 11, 2010 8:31:04 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what posters are these?
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 11, 2010 8:41:17 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what posters are these? *shrug* No one we know here. That's why I didn't name them. It's not a proBoard. |
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Apr 11, 2010 13:13:00 GMT -5
Oh! *Hits forehead* That kind of posters. I was reading that completely wrong. I was thinking posters with pictures and the words beneath them were various peoples responces to what was on the images. Sorry about that, Es. Thanks for clearing that up, even if I'm pretty sure you had no idea what I really meant, since I missed the point myself.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Apr 11, 2010 13:42:53 GMT -5
But as I think about it now: it might have been destiny that Paige later join? Prue was destined to die, Grams said that their destiny still awaits. Maybe Melinda Prophecy referred to all 4 of the sisters but she didn't really know it a the time. I dont think it was necessarly Prues destiny to die because we saw her alive and well in the future a year before that. I think it was just a hiccup in destiny that allowed that to happen. Thinking about it now, they should have introduced a baddie that had found a way to alter destiny or who was trying to awaken Paige to get to something. |
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Post by SEERofCHAOS on Apr 11, 2010 15:15:24 GMT -5
^That was what was kinda going to happen in my Source's Plan fic(which will remained unfinished) but I agree, with all the time-traveling TCOs were doing they were bound to change something.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 12, 2010 7:38:36 GMT -5
^That was what was kinda going to happen in my Source's Plan fic(which will remained unfinished) but I agree, with all the time-traveling TCOs were doing they were bound to change something. That's what I always thought. Just the fact that they went back that one time and came back, that could've changed everything right then. Had they not gone forward, it might have been the first set of Charmed Ones who only used their magic for their own personal use and Prue might not have wanted to try to save the Doctor but instead save herself and TK Shax right away, saving herself but continuing on the track towards becoming the sisters we saw in "Morality Bites". |
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Post by ljones on Apr 12, 2010 14:40:47 GMT -5
Prophecies are not an exact science. They never have been. In the words of a Jedi Master named Yoda:
"The future is always in motion."
Even Phoebe had once pointed out that there was no guarantee that her visions will always come true. At least Burge and Kern had the good sense to set up the possibility of a fourth sister, in case one of the three actresses had left the series in "P3 H20".
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 12, 2010 14:44:45 GMT -5
Prophecies are not an exact science. They never have been. In the words of a Jedi Master named Yoda: "The future is always in motion."Even Phoebe had once pointed out that there was no guarantee that her visions will always come true. At least Burge and Kern had the good sense to set up the possibility of a fourth sister, in case one of the three actresses had left the series in "P3 H20". Do you honestly think that P3 H20 was set up for the possibility of a fourth sister and not a simple way of showing Piper and Leo why whitelighters and witches were forbidden to be together? I think you're giving both Connie and Kern too much credit. I think the fact that this episode gave them a chance to come up with Paige (which, of course, I wish they hadn't so there wouldn't be such a thing as a witchlighter) was just a lucky break for them. |
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Post by ljones on Apr 12, 2010 22:06:49 GMT -5
We'll never really know, will we?
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Post by CharmedFaith on Apr 13, 2010 20:06:21 GMT -5
We pretty much do. They never said that they did the episode to set up a possible 4th sister, they have probably said they got lucky and used that past with Sam to get to where they got. But we know that they didnt have a 4th sister in mind.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 13, 2010 23:08:37 GMT -5
Agreed. From what we've heard, all three actresses were getting along famously during the first two seasons; they just didn't like the Demon of the Week format, which was handled by getting rid of Connie. By the end of the second season, there was no reason to even consider that one of the actresses might leave before their four-year contract was up. The problems that led to Shannen going bye-bye didn't pop up until the third season.
They just got lucky.
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Post by ljones on Apr 14, 2010 2:09:50 GMT -5
Why is it so hard for people to admit that some things are simply a mystery?
Yes, there was a chance that Burge and Spelling got lucky, when they used the "P3 H20" episode as an excuse to introduce Paige. Then again, there was a chance that Spelling had considered the possibility of one of his leading ladies leaving the show before it ended . . . considering his past experiences with Shannen Doherty.
Like I said before, I don't think we really know the truth.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Apr 14, 2010 7:38:12 GMT -5
Because some things arent a mystery. Sam wasnt created because spelling told htem to so they would have a possible way out if someone left. It was just a story element to help explore Patty and the sisters. Simple as that. Even after Shannen was fired there were rumors abotu what they would do and it kept going back and forth about them recasting the role but they decieded to bring in a new sister.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 14, 2010 8:18:27 GMT -5
Why is it so hard for some people to admit that some things are simply a mystery? Yes, there was a chance that Burge and Spelling got lucky, when they used the "P3 H20" episode as an excuse to introduce Paige. Then again, there was a chance that Spelling had considered the possibility of one of his leading ladies leaving the show before it ended . . . considering his past experiences with Shannen Doherty. Like I said before, I don't think we really know the truth. Why is it so hard for one person to admit that there is no mystery, that we do really know the truth? I'm going to quote from the TV Guide article put out between S3 and S4: By all accounts, things were down right sisterly off-screen as well. "This is the best job I've ever had because we bonded immediately," Milano gushed about her costars in a February 1999 interview. "We have so much in common." For one, all three had grown up bewitching audiences on TV: Doherty on the short-lived spin-off Little House: A New Beginning, then on 90210; Milano on the hit comedy Who's the Boss?; and Combs on David E. Kelly's quirky Picket Fences. When Milano married rocker Cinjun Tate in January 1999, Doherty and Combs even served as bridesmaids. (Milano and Tate have since split.)
"We were very close for the first couple of years," says Combs, 27, who plays middle sister Piper. "It's not like we just worked together and went home."
But trouble was undeniably brewing between Doherty and Milano by the time production started on the third season last summer. The fawning quotes to the press had stopped, as had the costars' time together away from the set. As Milano puts it, "I wasn't going to call [Shannen] on the weekend to go hang out." (The whole article is here, Reply #291.) Shannen had only walked out once and that was when she was young. If Aaron Spelling thought she wouldn't stay for her entire four-year contract at the time he signed her, he wouldn't have signed her. P3 H20 was the eighth episode of the second season. It would've been planned and written during that time when Holly says, ""We were very close for the first couple of years." So at the time of P3 H20, Spelling had absolutely no inkling that she would be gone by the end of S3 - there was no sign of it. All signs said that all three actresses would still be part of the show by the end of their contracts. He had absolutely no reason to tell them to include an episode with a contingency in case one of the actresses left early. Hence, no mystery. Sam was invented to show Piper and Leo why witches and whitelighters weren't allowed to be together, setting up Piper and Dan until Awakened. Perhaps Brian Krause had something else he had to do and they needed a way to get Leo out of the picture for a while, since he's not in the episodes between P3 H20 and Awakened. That's something we might never know, but whether it was done as a contingency? That we do know. It had absolutely nothing to do with possibly setting up a fourth sister. Hence, no mystery. |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 14, 2010 19:31:45 GMT -5
Why is it so hard for some people to admit that some things are simply a mystery? Yes, there was a chance that Burge and Spelling got lucky, when they used the "P3 H20" episode as an excuse to introduce Paige. Then again, there was a chance that Spelling had considered the possibility of one of his leading ladies leaving the show before it ended . . . considering his past experiences with Shannen Doherty. Like I said before, I don't think we really know the truth. Why is it so hard for one person to admit that there is no mystery, that we do really know the truth? I'm going to quote from the TV Guide article put out between S3 and S4: By all accounts, things were down right sisterly off-screen as well. "This is the best job I've ever had because we bonded immediately," Milano gushed about her costars in a February 1999 interview. "We have so much in common." For one, all three had grown up bewitching audiences on TV: Doherty on the short-lived spin-off Little House: A New Beginning, then on 90210; Milano on the hit comedy Who's the Boss?; and Combs on David E. Kelly's quirky Picket Fences. When Milano married rocker Cinjun Tate in January 1999, Doherty and Combs even served as bridesmaids. (Milano and Tate have since split.)
"We were very close for the first couple of years," says Combs, 27, who plays middle sister Piper. "It's not like we just worked together and went home."
But trouble was undeniably brewing between Doherty and Milano by the time production started on the third season last summer. The fawning quotes to the press had stopped, as had the costars' time together away from the set. As Milano puts it, "I wasn't going to call [Shannen] on the weekend to go hang out." (The whole article is here, Reply #291.) Shannen had only walked out once and that was when she was young. If Aaron Spelling thought she wouldn't stay for her entire four-year contract at the time he signed her, he wouldn't have signed her. P3 H20 was the eighth episode of the second season. It would've been planned and written during that time when Holly says, ""We were very close for the first couple of years." So at the time of P3 H20, Spelling had absolutely no inkling that she would be gone by the end of S3 - there was no sign of it. All signs said that all three actresses would still be part of the show by the end of their contracts. He had absolutely no reason to tell them to include an episode with a contingency in case one of the actresses left early. Hence, no mystery. Sam was invented to show Piper and Leo why witches and whitelighters weren't allowed to be together, setting up Piper and Dan until Awakened. Perhaps Brian Krause had something else he had to do and they needed a way to get Leo out of the picture for a while, since he's not in the episodes between P3 H20 and Awakened. That's something we might never know, but whether it was done as a contingency? That we do know. It had absolutely nothing to do with possibly setting up a fourth sister. Hence, no mystery. Hey Es, I know this is totally off topic, but what does your avatar text mean? 99 44/100%, how can you be 99, but 44/100? Sorry for the random question, I hate getting off topic. But to add to the topic, I agree that Sam's introduction in P3 H20 had nothing to do with introducing Paige. It was too early in Charmed for that anyway. I don't think they introduced Paige at all, in All Hell Breaks Loose, it was left as a cliffhanger, so anything could have happened. THey didn't exactly point to another sister at all. The attention was around Phoebe/Cole/Source and Prue/Piper. It was more about the battle than what might happen afterwards. |
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