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Post by ljones on Jul 18, 2007 11:50:20 GMT -5
Yeah, ESP is very similar. Except, ESP is more or less a feeling. It's considered the "sixth sense" or whatnot. It would extend her powers into more of reality. Rather than shifting into this *gasp* thing that she goes through with a vision, she'd merely sense a vibe. It's very Spider-Man or Sailor Mars (from Sailor Moon). Isn't that what Paige has? |
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Post by vandergraafk on Jul 18, 2007 15:45:12 GMT -5
Yes, but Paige's ability stems from her status as a whitelighter, not from her witchy powers.
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Post by foxfire on Jul 19, 2007 0:40:18 GMT -5
Paige's ESP sucks. It appeared for one episode because it was convenient to write it in. More than half of her powers are written in for convenience.
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Post by ljones on Jul 19, 2007 10:12:46 GMT -5
Yes, but Paige's ability stems from her status as a whitelighter, not from her witchy powers. Does it really matter from which side of the family she had inherited this ability? |
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Post by vandergraafk on Jul 20, 2007 13:23:11 GMT -5
Well, yes it does. Suppose Patty had had an affair with Tom Swift, a fictional human character I just made up. The resulting offspring would be just as much a witch as her half-sisters. Indeed, her powers would be the same as Prue's. The only difference would be that this child would not possess the advantage that Prue had as the first born child.
Of course, the child we get is not the product of a witch and a mortal. It is the offspring of a witch and a whitelighter. From her whitelighter father, she inherited certain traits. One might dismiss her abilities as written in for convenience sake. However, the ESP that is being casually dismissed is simply Paige's ability to sense a charge. That's it!
I really worry when terms are bandied about as if they described some sort of reality. Nowhere is Paige's ability referred to as ESP. The unfortunate description of Piper's power as the power to freeze has its roots in the show. Yet, the official guide at least tries to undo a misconception that casual fans continue to use. Reference to the Wikipedia entry merely continues the misconception since that is not an authorized source nor is it a particularly accurate source.
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Post by ljones on Jul 21, 2007 0:10:58 GMT -5
Vandergraaft, I couldn't care less from where Paige had inherited her ability. Why you are making a big deal out of it, I don't know why. Unless you're simply trying to piss me off.
Paige has some kind of ESP ability. Whether it was from Patty's side of the family or Sam's, I couldn't give a crap.
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Post by foxfire on Jul 21, 2007 11:24:26 GMT -5
I'm not even sure her ESP comes from her Whitelighter side. It may even be a mixture. Didn't Leo sort of dismiss that power? And where was that power for the seasons before it? Shouldn't Leo demonstrate it?
No. Because time and again Whitelighters fall into traps by Darklighters which they SHOULD have sensed had they had Paige's so-called "ESP".
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Post by whitelightertony on Jul 21, 2007 13:37:37 GMT -5
Just to be clear, when you all refer to Paige's ESP, are you referring to her ability to sense her charges?
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Post by MarAcev on Jul 21, 2007 18:36:42 GMT -5
I think they mean the ability to sense evil, which was only seen once and I chalked it off as intuition. Even Piper said that she didn't need to be superwitch to know the house was creepy.
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Post by whitelightertony on Jul 22, 2007 1:08:07 GMT -5
If this debate is solely limited to Paige's experience with the Creepy House in "Size Matters"...it's hard to say either way. It could very well have been solely Paige's intuition...or maybe, as Paige suggested in a previous episode, her witch half offsetting her whitelighter half enabled her to sense Evil in a similar way to how Leo can sense Good.
However, I'm a little skeptical of that latter possibility...because if that had been true, wouldn't Paige have been able to sense The Source right away after he possessed Cole?
The other issue with "Size Matters" is maybe the writers originally intended to use it as a prelude to have Paige actively sense Evil in later episodes...but they just never followed up with exploring that facet of her magic.
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Post by lizzy5 on Jul 22, 2007 11:26:25 GMT -5
tell me how many time did phoebe get a boy friends 4 or 5 or low than that or high than that k umm she did machore in her own way but she didn't reall y use her preminition she usually just fought the demon really!!  |
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Post by ljones on Jul 22, 2007 22:08:00 GMT -5
I do agree with you assessment. Which is why I have allowed Paige to maintain this ability in my fan fiction stories.
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Post by vandergraafk on Jul 23, 2007 13:12:41 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely. Read again every one of my postings. They are all directed towards one person. At what point, do "you begin to wonder whether all of the ancient myths are solemnly directed straight at you"? (Lyrics courtesy Peter Hammill)
Gee. And, I thought I was using my talents to analyze and elucidate. How could I have been so confused?
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Post by ljones on Sept 4, 2007 21:21:46 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely. Read again every one of my postings. They are all directed towards one person. At what point, do "you begin to wonder whether all of the ancient myths are solemnly directed straight at you"? (Lyrics courtesy Peter Hammill) Gee. And, I thought I was using my talents to analyze and elucidate. How could I have been so confused? What in the F**K are you talking about? |
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