WAS SEASON EIGHT AS GOOD AS THE OTHER SEASONS?

[pipercharmedphreak]

I also have to agree.

Another thing that upset me about the 8th season was the lack of sisterly moments.

[Assassin Witch]

pipercharmedphreak said:

I also have to agree.

Another thing that upset me about the 8th season was the lack of sisterly moments.

Wait.

They were sisters?

[Astral Echo]

Oh Es, Jackie - I love you guys. You can put up a fight with out me even needing to be here.

Season Eight was the worst season of the show, yes it was worse than Season Seven. The only good episodes in Season Eight were: Vaya Con Leos (and I even groan because of some of the reasons Es stated on the other page) and Kill Billie: Vol 2 (and that's just cause of the Manor exploded, what a brillant moment that was!).

Season Seven had plenty of good episodes - Something Wicca (apart from the identity crisis thing, it was one hell of an episode), Little Box of Horrors, Freaky Phoebe, 7 Year Witch (Cole was nice again, yay. And Ciper, yay for Ciper!) etc...

Season Two was also a very good season, didn't bond well arc wise, neither did S1 but there were some beautiful episodes in there and it set the series up well. Season Eight had zero on the beautiful episode front!

As for Season Five, I'm slowly being swayed back to the dark side, I have to admit there were some great episodes there and for some parts - Phoebe became the baby again.

Bottom line, S8 = A Vulgar Word That Can Also Translate Into A Hot Steaming Turd!

[alyssa24]

I hated Christie she was so not good at acting an evil person she did not make me feel who she was. Dont you lot think so???

[Hansemand]

Didn't like Christie that much, it was OK to introduce a person like Billie, but some times she did come over a bit to annoying.
Season 8 could had been created much better if they had not made these huge cutbacks.

[*Prueforever*]

I hate the fact they got rid of Leo and Darryl who have been there since like the beginning and brought in Billie.

I also have to agree with pipercharmedphreak there was barely any sisterly moments in the 8th season. It was by far the owrst season IMO

[Assassin Witch]

I liked Christy as a baddie. To me, she was a much better character than Billie.

[charmedfan4evr]

musicrpgoddess said:

pipercharmedphreak said:

I also have to agree.

Another thing that upset me about the 8th season was the lack of sisterly moments.

Wait.

They were sisters?

LMAO!

hansemand said:

Didn't like Christie that much, it was OK to introduce a person like Billie, but some times she did come over a bit to annoying.
Season 8 could had been created much better if they had not made these huge cutbacks.

Since Kern had such a dire urgency to bring in a new character, like Billie *barf* in hopes of reviving the show, OK. But like you said, C'MON! Every single episode, the whole gosh darn season?!? I remember reading on this sites main homepage, that Billie's character was only supposed to be around for 5-6 episodes. Boy, I couldn't stand her from the moment she was introduced. Instead, they decided to cutback on characters that truly needed to be there the whole time, for the last season of Charmed. *cough cough Darryl cough cough Leo cough cough TCO's*.The idea of trying to bring back a show with a new character is a great idea, but Kern had to realize that Charmed's final season had to be all about TCO's, and not let the focus of the whole season be on Billie *gag gag* looking for Christy *gag*. He should have thought of this in the beginning. OK, introduce a new character for the first 5-6 episodes..then let her go, and give more time to the characters who really matter, for a FINAL season, what the fans deserved to see.

[pipercharmedphreak]

charmedfan4evr said:

Since Kern had such a dire urgency to bring in a new character, like Billie *barf* in hopes of reviving the show, OK. But like you said, C'MON! Every single episode, the whole gosh darn season?!? I remember reading on this sites main homepage, that Billie's character was only supposed to be around for 5-6 episodes. Boy, I couldn't stand her from the moment she was introduced. Instead, they decided to cutback on characters that truly needed to be there the whole time, for the last season of Charmed. *cough cough Darryl cough cough Leo cough cough TCO's*.The idea of trying to bring back a show with a new character is a great idea, but Kern had to realize that Charmed's final season had to be all about TCO's, and not let the focus of the whole season be on Billie *gag gag* looking for Christy *gag*. He should have thought of this in the beginning. OK, introduce a new character for the first 5-6 episodes..then let her go, and give more time to the characters who really matter, for a FINAL season, what the fans deserved to see.

YES!!! I agree 100%. As I believed during the airing of the 8th season, Charmed had been renamed to THE BILLIE SHOW featuring The Charmed Ones (without the great supporting characters that should have been there).

[Assassin Witch]

pipercharmedphreak said:

YES!!! I agree 100%. As I believed during the airing of the 8th season, Charmed had been renamed to THE BILLIE SHOW featuring The Charmed Ones (without the great supporting characters that should have been there).

Charmed What?



I get confused on some of the things you talk about during S8.

[pipercharmedphreak]

In other words , I think S8 focused too much on Billie and not enough on the sisters. And because of the character of Billie we were not able to enjoy great supporting characters such as Leo or Darryl much throughout the last season (or not at all in Daryll's case), when we should have.

[whitelightertony]

Since Kern had such a dire urgency to bring in a new character, like Billie *barf* in hopes of reviving the show, OK. But like you said, C'MON! Every single episode, the whole gosh darn season?!? I remember reading on this sites main homepage, that Billie's character was only supposed to be around for 5-6 episodes. Boy, I couldn't stand her from the moment she was introduced. Instead, they decided to cutback on characters that truly needed to be there the whole time, for the last season of Charmed. *cough cough Darryl cough cough Leo cough cough TCO's*.The idea of trying to bring back a show with a new character is a great idea, but Kern had to realize that Charmed's final season had to be all about TCO's, and not let the focus of the whole season be on Billie *gag gag* looking for Christy *gag*. He should have thought of this in the beginning. OK, introduce a new character for the first 5-6 episodes..then let her go, and give more time to the characters who really matter, for a FINAL season, what the fans deserved to see.

I hope you realize that the WB most likely was breathing down Kern's neck the entire time, mandating what he should and shouldn't do with Billie's character...not to mention that bringing in a younger female witch was a stipulation for them agreeing to renew the show in the first place.

Every single story arc, plotline, and episode breakdown that a showrunner (such as Kern) wants to use has to be approved (and is often specifically requested) by both the studio executives and network executives.

Kern didn't have unilateral power to do whatever he wanted with Season 8.

[Astral Echo]

I agree that the WB was shocking but Kern can't be trusted to what he wants, name one idea of his that was any good. If you manage to I bet I can counter them all with things on the opposite side of the scale. The WB had to pull the reigns on Kern as he was a bad showrunner - end of.

[Esmeralda]

I'm with Vengeance. If Kern didn't want his MarySue to have the starring role in S8, he should've fought harder for what the show was all about...the sisters.

They could've let MarySue, I mean Billie, guest star the way various demons did during various seasons, but for her to actually be the star.... And to come up with one who was more powerful than the sisters combined.... He could've shown that MarySue, I mean Billie, is actually a Warren herself, maybe the reincarnation of Melinda Warren's daughter, then we could've had a Prudence back without her being Prue. I thought they might have been doing something like that when they showed that Billie's grandmother was a witch while her mother wasn't....I was sure that Grams was also *her* Grams (an idea I use in my Charmed Forever). Had she been a Warren, then we might have accepted her better.

Also if Kern truly cared for his show, he should've fought for MarySue, I mean Billie, to be played by a dramatic actress, not one who's a comedic one and who played her as such a typical dumb blonde and appeared to have been chosen just because she was fresh meat for the horny teenaged boys who the WB thought were their prime audience.

If that's what the network had wanted to do with *my* baby, I would've simply rewritten "Something Wicca This Way Goes" and let it be the finale and not even do an eighth season. It's obvious he was more interested in trying to come up with a spinoff (that would've failed horribly, but had a chance to succeed if Billie was a Warren who was played by a dramatic actress) than trying to end Charmed properly. To let such a great show end up so horribly was dreadful on both the WB's part and Kern's for not coming up with better ideas. You want to know why the WB died and why the CW is failing....that's why. Studio bosses who don't listen to their viewers.

[whitelightertony]

I'm with Vengeance. If Kern didn't want his MarySue to have the starring role in S8, he should've fought harder for what the show was all about...the sisters.

They could've let MarySue, I mean Billie, guest star the way various demons did during various seasons, but for her to actually be the star.... And to come up with one who was more powerful than the sisters combined.... He could've shown that MarySue, I mean Billie, is actually a Warren herself, maybe the reincarnation of Melinda Warren's daughter, then we could've had a Prudence back without her being Prue. I thought they might have been doing something like that when they showed that Billie's grandmother was a witch while her mother wasn't....I was sure that Grams was also *her* Grams (an idea I use in my Charmed Forever). Had she been a Warren, then we might have accepted her better.

Also if Kern truly cared for his show, he should've fought for MarySue, I mean Billie, to be played by a dramatic actress, not one who's a comedic one and who played her as such a typical dumb blonde and appeared to have been chosen just because she was fresh meat for the horny teenaged boys who the WB thought were their prime audience.

Es, I agree with you that Kern should have fought to utilize Billie differently. I'll accept that the WB wanted her to have a prominent role in every episode...Kern still could have found ways to integrate the sisterhood between Piper, Phoebe, and Paige (and incorporate magic that didn't require expensive special effects) even while bringing Billie in as an ally and setting her up to be an adversary.

As far as why Kaley specifically was chosen, my understanding is that the WB wanted someone high-profile for that role, and the producers only had a short list of young actresses for the part. I guess Kaley auditioned better than the rest of them.

If that's what the network had wanted to do with *my* baby, I would've simply rewritten "Something Wicca This Way Goes" and let it be the finale and not even do an eighth season.

Except they couldn't rewrite it by that point (when the WB finally made its decision)...it was already in post-production.

Although I'm curious, Es: how would you have rewritten SWTWG to make it give fans closure?

It's obvious he was more interested in trying to come up with a spinoff (that would've failed horribly, but had a chance to succeed if Billie was a Warren who was played by a dramatic actress) than trying to end Charmed properly. To let such a great show end up so horribly was dreadful on both the WB's part and Kern's for not coming up with better ideas.

The WB was the party that wanted the spinoff, not Kern. Kern was already planning another TV series pilot (about mermaids). I think the WB didn't want to be shackled down by having Billie tied so closely to the Halliwell family if she were one of them (although if they'd green-lighted the Billie spinoff, they could have turned that into an advantage).

You want to know why the WB died and why the CW is failing....that's why. Studio bosses who don't listen to their viewers.

The WB *died* because it merged with UPN...neither network felt it was growing at an acceptable enough rate, as opposed to the growth Fox experienced when it was still new. The CW is failing because of awful programming decisions made by Dawn Ostroff.

[Astral Echo]

I personally would of ended Something Wicca by doing a little bit of a Forever Charmed style, flashing back to moments in the show and ending on a future photograph which reveals the survived without actually pyshically showing it.

That is instead of the alternate idenities.

[charminggirl15]

Personely i think season 8 wasn't the best season cause it was like they didn't know if it was the end or not and the last episode i hoped they would like have more flashback with prue in it cause i never saw one episode a picture of prue on the wall that's kinda strange do you think? But it was a little bit a good season!
I still miss them allot!!!

XxX Zineb ;D

[whitelightertony]

I personally would of ended Something Wicca by doing a little bit of a Forever Charmed style, flashing back to moments in the show and ending on a future photograph which reveals the survived without actually pyshically showing it.

Hmm, that would have been an interesting idea.

[~B@MeLiSsA30@B~]

[Kit-the-cat]

I couldn't agree more. Ending charmed that way would of given the fans closure, and made them a lot more happy with how charmed ended.

I do think that a 8th season was a good idea, but i would of preferred a different one to what we got