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Post by MarAcev on Sept 7, 2006 19:33:31 GMT -5
Then mention to me all the good things she did in season 8 for someone other than herself.
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 7, 2006 23:19:26 GMT -5
Oh, maracev, give me time to work this out. I'm just now at the beginning phases of my research. Let me put forth the hypothesis, though, that PhoeME certainly announced her presence for the first time in "The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell". You'll quote the line better than me, but here goes: "And what do I have? Me, just me! Phoebe says after describing that what Piper and Paige have!
Besides, there are so many other issues in Season 8 to deal with.
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Post by MarAcev on Sept 8, 2006 16:44:07 GMT -5
She said that things were preventing her from helping her.
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Post by *Sammi!* on Sept 13, 2006 14:13:38 GMT -5
I think people should give Phoebe a break, am not exactly a Phoebe fan, but she didnt think of herself all the time... she has issues yeah, but come on, everyone thinks of themselves when they want to.
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Post by p3charm on Sept 13, 2006 21:27:38 GMT -5
Not everyone thinks of themselves all the time and puts her wants before their families needs. Piper needed Phoebe the most once Leo was gone but Phoebe didn't care she just left anyway.
I thought this was the Lori Rom thread not the Phoebe thread....
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 14, 2006 8:35:26 GMT -5
Yes, it is. We sort of got sidetracked. There was however a clear preference for Alyssa over Lori in the role of Phoebe, whatever that role later devolved into. Let me clarify my comments: I think I understand where I am getting this "cherubic" notion from. True, Alyssa's face was somewhat rounder then before emaciation set in. However, it was her hair style. The short cropped hair ending at her jawline really did give the impression that her face (head) was cherubic after all. Clearly, Lori Rom did not possess this in the shots used.
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Post by *Sammi!* on Sept 14, 2006 15:34:16 GMT -5
Having watched the infamous episode with Lori Rom in it... I think I have to say that as Im used to Alyssa Milano, I prefer it with Alyssa... Lori doesnt seem to portray Phoebe as good as Alyssa does and this is why I think that whoever it was, made a good decision to put Alyssa in the series instead of Lori...
And Phoebe needed to find herself...
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Post by p3charm on Sept 22, 2006 22:19:17 GMT -5
Ok I am very offended by anyone who is saying that just because Alyssa had a rounder face in seasone one that that makes her "cherubic"!! Not every female in the human race needs to be a perfect size zero and look (or be) anorexic or belemic. That is a disgusting concept many people have adopted!!!
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 22, 2006 22:44:33 GMT -5
Where did that come from? Wow! I don't understand where the problem lies. Maybe I'm just daff! In the event, I was comparing later Phoebe with earlier Phoebe and why I was led to the impression that the earlier Phoebe struck me as a naively innocent, warm adventure seeker. In part, this stemmed from her short cropped hair which gave a rounder image to her face. That I associate such roundness with cherubic probably has more to do with the history of western religious art than any desire to have women with only size 0. Since I'm a male, I suppose that means excruciatingly thin! But, Charmed is not to blame - nor am I - for such biases. Just look at the waifs competing for America's next top model! As Clara might say: "Where's the beef?"
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Post by *Sammi!* on Sept 22, 2006 23:11:33 GMT -5
In fairness she did look really slim faced towards the end of Charmed, but then so did Paige, infact Paige looked skeletal!! and yeah, Im a curvy size14 which is average in the UK and I hate it when the media portrays the image that girls have to be timy sized to be sexy... My fella loves me and my figure...
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Post by chrmd4life on Oct 3, 2006 17:43:34 GMT -5
The pilot definitly is not on the dvd set of the first season. I got the first season for Christmas and would've definitly notice if it was there. Good to know... I thought I was going crazy trying to look for it after seeing it mentioned in the thread. Guess it's time to download. Thanks to whomever for giving the links.
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Post by vanillabliss on Oct 5, 2006 13:23:17 GMT -5
yeah, I second that
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Post by mybflvsphoebe on Oct 13, 2006 11:45:42 GMT -5
I just want to say a couple of things. First I'm glad that they ended up going with Alyssa. She's my favorite. Two, P3, I love your banner..it rocks!!!! Thirdly, they said they were trying to get the pilot episode as an extra on the Charmed eigth season dvd set . Brad Kern said they had to go through their lawyers to make sure that they could include it in the box set...you know all that legal junk but he did say he would try like hell to get it in there. I'm still going to download it though..I'm interested to see this Lori Rom.
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Post by chrmd4life on Oct 18, 2006 23:09:15 GMT -5
I watched the pilot the other night. It was okay. I guess after having seen the episodes with Alyssa Milano, I just can't see another person playing the part. There seemed to be something missing, but that's just my opinion.
It would be nice if the lawyers can get together and come to an agreement to get it put on the Season 8 DVD set. That would be a nice piece of history....
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Post by vandergraafk on Oct 20, 2006 15:08:52 GMT -5
The original pilot was never intended to be included with the Season 1 DVD. There was a remote possibility that it was to be included with the Season 8 DVD Extras. It won't be. So download away! Maybe someday, they will put it out, but I wouldn't hold my breath!
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Post by Jamie on Dec 14, 2006 14:49:54 GMT -5
I think that Alyssa is a much better Phoebe than Lori would have been. For one all the sisters are the same height, with brown hair and brown eyes, whereas Lori was like 2 foot taller than Holly and Shannen. Shannen had green eyes but still looked like a sister.
Now that Rose, Alyssa and Holly are together, they look like true sisters, they are all the same height, they all have brown and hair and they all have brown eyes, it all matches. Lori would have stuck out like a sore thumb.
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Post by *Sammi!* on Dec 16, 2006 13:09:51 GMT -5
^^ I get your theory, but how do you know that Alyssa made a better Phoebe? Weve only seen one eppie with Lori Rom in it, mabe she would have made it better and wouldnt have been a lovesick puppy all the time.
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Post by HollysFan on Dec 16, 2006 13:38:59 GMT -5
Not all sisters or siblings match. In fact quite a few actually do. I have black hair, my 2 sisters have brown hair, my sisters and I do all have brown eyes, but my brother has blonde hair and blue eyes, yet we're all still true and biological siblings.
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Post by Elder on Dec 16, 2006 16:06:43 GMT -5
I thought the unaired version was meant only to show TV executives what was intended. Nobody ever talks about the guy that played Andy (also replaced) or the fact that Darryl doesn't even show up at all! Why isn't there a "guy who played Andy in the original episode" thread?
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Post by misskitty66 on Dec 17, 2006 18:21:43 GMT -5
^^ I get your theory, but how do you know that Alyssa made a better Phoebe? Weve only seen one eppie with Lori Rom in it, mabe she would have made it better and wouldnt have been a lovesick puppy all the time. they proably would of made lori a love sick dope too... lol just a guess on my part. phoebe is who she is.... and i am glad we were blessed with alyssa as phoebe... she is my hero....
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