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Post by val1993 on Apr 6, 2016 2:02:47 GMT -5
What WOULD they have done had S3 ended like S1 and S2 had, with the sisters just dippy bopping along, with no cliff hanger and no one on the brink of death. Obviously, they couldn't just have Prue gone for no apparent reason when they came back for S4. I guess they would have Prue die off screen and open S4 with her funeral, telling us just what happened to her. Chuck Lorre did that when CBS canned Charlie Sheen from Two And A Half Men. Well 2x22 kinda had a cliffhanger with Piper and Leo going away to the Upper Regions. |
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Post by Astral Vision on Apr 6, 2016 6:50:51 GMT -5
Well 2x22 kinda had a cliffhanger with Piper and Leo going away to the Upper Regions. :/ If it happened between 2 and 3, Piper would have probably blamed herself for not being there. Imagine her and Leo returning from up there a day later just to realise it had actually been a month. And to find Phoebe alone and distraught, no Prue in sight. Through tears, Phoebe manages to tell them that whilst they were gone, she and Prue found themselves up against a demon that only the Power of Three could have stopped, a demon that ended up killing Prue. Phoebe was even forced to lie to the funeral goers as to why Piper was absent from her own sister's funeral. Piper wonders why Leo didn't sense any of this while they were up there and he figures the Elders had blocked him from sensing charges while they argued over his rule breaking relationship with Piper. Piper breaks down in tears.  Sorry the fanfic writer in me got carried away with that reply. |
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Post by val1993 on Apr 6, 2016 7:11:56 GMT -5
Well 2x22 kinda had a cliffhanger with Piper and Leo going away to the Upper Regions. :/ If it happened between 2 and 3, Piper would have probably blamed herself for not being there. Imagine her and Leo returning from up there a day later just to realise it had actually been a month. And to find Phoebe alone and distraught, no Prue in sight. Through tears, Phoebe manages to tell them that whilst they were gone, she and Prue found themselves up against a demon that only the Power of Three could have stopped, a demon that ended up killing Prue. Phoebe was even forced to lie to the funeral goers as to why Piper was absent from her own sister's funeral. Piper wonders why Leo didn't sense any of this while they were up there and he figures the Elders had blocked him from sensing charges while they argued over his rule breaking relationship with Piper. Piper breaks down in tears. Sorry the fanfic writer in me got carried away with that reply. Lol I wonder how would they fix it if Holly or Brian weren't available for shooting season 3. |
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Post by Astral Vision on Apr 6, 2016 8:08:09 GMT -5
Lol I wonder how would they fix it if Holly or Brian weren't available for shooting season 3. Oh that would have been a simple fix if Brian was gone by the start of 3. The Elders orb Piper back to the manor alone and Piper, in tears, tells her sisters that they will never see Leo again as he is no longer their whitelighter because their relationship broke too many rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 9:48:31 GMT -5
What WOULD they have done had S3 ended like S1 and S2 had, with the sisters just dippy bopping along, with no cliff hanger and no one on the brink of death. Obviously, they couldn't just have Prue gone for no apparent reason when they came back for S4. I guess they would have Prue die off screen and open S4 with her funeral, telling us just what happened to her. Chuck Lorre did that when CBS canned Charlie Sheen from Two And A Half Men. Ugh, I sudden to think have bad that would've been. It would feel so "Sabrina" where characters vanish off the face of the Earth never to be seen again. Perhaps Kern would have recognised how ridiculous it would've been to kill Prue off-screen that he wouldn't have fired Shannen until after S4.... If only. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 9:49:33 GMT -5
Lol I wonder how would they fix it if Holly or Brian weren't available for shooting season 3. Oh that would have been a simple fix if Brian was gone by the start of 3. The Elders orb Piper back to the manor alone and Piper, in tears, tells her sisters that they will never see Leo again as he is no longer their whitelighter because their relationship broke too many rules. Or even better, 'Magic Hour' could've been the cliffhanger finale to Season 2, so when Leo is "Taken" he really is reassigned and never comes back. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 11:11:00 GMT -5
Perhaps Kern would have recognised how ridiculous it would've been to kill Prue off-screen that he wouldn't have fired Shannen until after S4.... If only. If he had waited until Season 4, then he wouldn't have even needed to fire Shannen. Her contract ended with Season 4, so she would've been free to go on her own if she didn't want to continue with the show. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 11:37:44 GMT -5
Geez, Kern, your male ego couldn't tough it out for one more season?
Besides, if Shannen left on her own terms, she might have been open to the idea of guest starring on a few episodes later on.
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Post by adzpower on Apr 6, 2016 12:15:21 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Shannen but let's be honest, the only problems Charmed had were the network, and Brad "roll over like a dog" Kern.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 14:38:00 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Shannen but let's be honest, the only problems Charmed had were the network, and Brad "roll over like a dog" Kern. Yeah, the media may have made it into a "Shannen vs Alyssa" thing, but it was more likely Kern that she had issues with. She disliked the direction he was taking the show in, and she felt like both the show and her character had stagnated. |
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Post by val1993 on Apr 6, 2016 14:58:29 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Shannen but let's be honest, the only problems Charmed had were the network, and Brad "roll over like a dog" Kern. Yeah, the media may have made it into a "Shannen vs Alyssa" thing, but it was more likely Kern that she had issues with. She disliked the direction he was taking the show in, and she felt like both the show and her character had stagnated. I don't mean to offend anyone, but is there any interview where she would state that she disliked the direction Brad was taking the show in? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 19:00:54 GMT -5
And I could see her point. In the first two seasons, Prue had great storylines.
Then Kern seized power and Prue is left sitting on a shelf while the Phoebe and Cole Show starts up. The show was supposed to be about the Sisters Three, not their respective boy toys.
Clearly, Kern's male ego could not tolerate a woman with strong opinions, and Shannen is clearly one of those women, so Shannen had to go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 19:26:01 GMT -5
I don't mean to offend anyone, but is there any interview where she would state that she disliked the direction Brad was taking the show in? These are Holly's words, but they seem to strongly imply it in regards to Shannen: From an August 25, 2001 TV Guide interview. An earlier June 2001 statement made by her former 90210 costar Brian Austin Green also seemed to imply that Shannen's issues were over creative differences: You can read more in this thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 0:08:28 GMT -5
Clearly Shannen had strong opinions on her characters. Just certainly does not justify firing her, or waiting until she was thousands of miles away in Canada and doing it over the phone (Kern really was a gutless coward here, wasn't he).
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Post by unakite on Apr 7, 2016 10:14:45 GMT -5
This discussion is off topic
What happened 16 years is a trite subject and new revelations, after all this time, would be only revisited truth
Shannen was judged a demanding person and a troublemaker, and you cannot live in the star system with this reputation, just remember the fun character of Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie
The same Monroe, a great star not a common actress, despite being adored ended marginalized because considered a wonky woman
If you are considered temperamental, you'll fail in any job, let alone in a job where the pretty girls with some talent abound
Holly has always found a job, not as main character but she is estimated and lives with a good balance between children and work
Alyssa never put the work at the center of her life, she played with her brother, is a UNICEF ambassador, abandoned Misstress not to move her children from home
She began working in film industry since she was 8 years old, probably she probably had less career anxieties
Shannen not had the career she dreamed, never became the undisputed star of a series or a major movie, with the grit and desire to emerge that she had she'ld have done more, but a bad reputation damage and it's difficult to remedy
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Post by unakite on Apr 7, 2016 10:43:58 GMT -5
So, I'm watching AHBL right now and I've got to the credits and all I can think about.. WTF. Yes, this is pretty much the universal FAVORITE EPISODE OF THE SEASON episode. The acting, especially between Shannen and Holly, is PURE OMG AMAZING! No doubt. The directing was brilliant (Shannen!). But as I'm watching the first five minutes, all I'm going is...either I need to majorly rewatch the first three seasons because I'm missing something, or WTF this makes no sense. Yes, I think we can all agree that Prue's Pride pretty much is what got her killed, but still.... The episode starts off with the girls and Dr. Griffiths coming to the Manor. All WE know is that Phoebe had a premonition. My question is, OF WHAT?! And WHY is THE SOURCE'S ASSASSIN after the doctor? There is NEVER an explanation for this. This is so RANDOM. I truly don't recall this happening before. Don't we always know the story? Please, remind me if I'm wrong. It's been a while since I've actually watched the episodes. And Phoebe says the spell, Shax is wounded. And Prue is ready to go out and find him. I mean, I don't necessarily think that part is super OOC, but still, it was very OFF for me. And why would the two of them go off alone? Just so Phoebe could babysit? I don't know. Maybe I'm over thinking things, but I'm just curious..anyone else feel anything like I am? Or am I just totally forgetting things. And I truly have a hard time believing Brad Kern set this up. I know I have no faith in the guy, but I really just think this was one of those...OMG CLIFFHANGERS that shows do, esepcially supernatural shows. Thoughts anyone? AHBL concentrates a very long story, it is likely it was later shortened Why the Phoebe' vision is incomplete and the same sisters have no idea why that doctor is so important? It happened that the sisters protected the innocents without knowing why they were in danger, as happened with Tanya, only at the end they were able to understand her role, I don't think it was important to know about the doctor Or, as some fans believe, it was a Source's trap, his Oracle'lde have able to to influence Phoebe's visions Why did Prue drag Piper out of the manor is more interesting to understand Prue told Piper she has had a bad feeling about Shax and the doctor, she had one all day Prue resolved it was right to follow her instincts but her instincts this time was wrong and Piper died Prue didn't accept she can't control everything and she made her worse mistake |
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Post by sol on Apr 7, 2016 13:52:32 GMT -5
The chill, the bad feelings...maybe Prue was gainig a new sense
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Post by lilchi7212 on Apr 7, 2016 20:17:01 GMT -5
People can say what they want about Shannen but let's be honest, the only problems Charmed had were the network, and Brad "roll over like a dog" Kern. Yeah, the media may have made it into a "Shannen vs Alyssa" thing, but it was more likely Kern that she had issues with. She disliked the direction he was taking the show in, and she felt like both the show and her character had stagnated. No I think she left because she was unwilling to sign her new contract for the amount they were offering her at the time. She thought that maybe the producers wouldn't risk losing her since the whole show revolved around the "Power of 3"thing,which wouldn't really work with only two sisters remaining,so she pushed for more money. The producers felt she was pushing way too hard, and told her they would not meet her demands,at which point she called their bluff and stated that she was leaving. The producers were forced to either go back on what they had said and give her the increase in pay or write in a fourth sister; they chose the latter. This might be some truth to this since the cast and Brad Kern complained about how poor the show was handled by the WB. |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Apr 8, 2016 0:21:38 GMT -5
I cannot believe that there's still even a debate on whether or not there's "missing footage" of Prue's death, or whatnot. It's well-known that Shannen was fired AFTER the episode had even aired, so there were never any scenes of Prue dying to begin with. 3x22 was always meant to have a cliffhanger ending, period. For whatever reason, some fans just can't accept the fact that Shannen's firing was a completely unplanned, last-minute decision. You'd think that the glaring discontinuity between "All Hell Breaks Loose" and "Charmed Again" would've been enough of a clue that the start of Season 4 was a hasty rewrite, and yet mythical tales of a long lost "Episode 3x23" still persist to this day. Anyone who wants to see how Prue's death might've gone should watch the excellent video ShiningAllure made on YouTube. It's 100% fanmade, but it's very good and as close as we'll ever get to seeing "footage" of Prue's death. I take it you're not watching charmed back in the day the year it was originally broadcasted. Im not surprised that you find this story gap natural. Im gonna refrain from ever posting about this subject again. You're dead set on for a reason that is perfectly clear. It's really okay that you posted about this because you really didn't know if the missing footage was real or not. Personally, I thought it was real too. And there were many people who claimed that they saw the missing footage. If I remember correctly, they said it was something along the lines of Leo returning to the manor and healing Prue and Piper. For some reason, Prue and Piper still go outside and are attacked by Shax. BUT this time there wasn't any reporter there to catch them. Unfortunately, Shax attacks Prue and she lands on the pavement, cracking her skull like. And something else happens but I can't remember it. But I know how you feel that there was missing footage. Yes, the missing gap made no sense whatsoever. Apparently, the ending was designed this way in case one of the actresses left the series. Though it's okay because it's actually not well-known that Shannen was fired after the episode aired. Besides this board, other boards are pretty dead and from the looks of Charmed vid comments on youtube and other people on Yahoo, Imdb, and other websites, a lot of people claim that they saw missing footage and were told that it was only shown once and was deleted because Shannen had the rights. |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Apr 8, 2016 0:23:12 GMT -5
The chill, the bad feelings...maybe Prue was gainig a new sense That's exactly what I'm thinking. She was either gaining the power to sense danger or telepathy. |
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