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Post by sol on Apr 8, 2016 0:40:31 GMT -5
I think it was a development of her astral projection
if you can get out of your body you can perceive reality in a different way, or this is what yoga teachers teach
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Post by charmedagain4 on Apr 8, 2016 0:40:45 GMT -5
There;s something that I don't quite understand. At a convention, Shannen stated that it was her idea to leave and that she wanted to leave Charmed not just because she wanted it to go in a different direction, but that at that age, she became easily bored with shows. And to add on that, I think that matches up with what a poster said before about the episodes become repetitive. With the show being repetitive, no wonder she got bored. She herself admits that she feels very badly about this and thinks of it as a mistake. She wished that she could undo that.
So I'm guessing that maybe it was only discussed about Shannen possibly leaving Charmed and it wasn't a set decision when they were done filming the last episode. But while Shannen was away filming the movie with Julian, Brad gave her THE CURSED CALL and she was out the door.
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Post by lilchi7212 on Apr 8, 2016 4:29:42 GMT -5
The chill, the bad feelings...maybe Prue was gainig a new sense That's exactly what I'm thinking. She was either gaining the power to sense danger or telepathy. May have been more like a deja vu thing! |
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Post by unakite on Apr 8, 2016 10:16:33 GMT -5
There;s something that I don't quite understand. At a convention, Shannen stated that it was her idea to leave and that she wanted to leave Charmed not just because she wanted it to go in a different direction, but that at that age, she became easily bored with shows. And to add on that, I think that matches up with what a poster said before about the episodes become repetitive. With the show being repetitive, no wonder she got bored. She herself admits that she feels very badly about this and thinks of it as a mistake. She wished that she could undo that. So I'm guessing that maybe it was only discussed about Shannen possibly leaving Charmed and it wasn't a set decision when they were done filming the last episode. But while Shannen was away filming the movie with Julian, Brad gave her THE CURSED CALL and she was out the door. A showrunner as Kern is an employee of the production,he may be laid off, he can fire no one, only the production can Brad Kern had planned a big role for Prue,he was completely staggered and had to change everything in a hurry inventing Paige There isn't an interview in which Shannen dumps on Kern, she always talks of how it's great Prue' role in the season four Instead she inveigh against Aaron Spelling who had promised she'ld be the protagonist, not one of the protagonist, forgetting that she had promised to Spelling that never she'ld have put herself again in a position to be arrested In January 2001 she was arrested for driving while intoxicated and reacted with such violence that the agents had to lock her to the ground The Spelling production authority made sure that they didn't try her qhile they were filming the third season If they had arrested Shannen, the third season would be blocked, it is evident that Sperling at the end has lost patience |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Apr 8, 2016 18:35:22 GMT -5
There;s something that I don't quite understand. At a convention, Shannen stated that it was her idea to leave and that she wanted to leave Charmed not just because she wanted it to go in a different direction, but that at that age, she became easily bored with shows. And to add on that, I think that matches up with what a poster said before about the episodes become repetitive. With the show being repetitive, no wonder she got bored. She herself admits that she feels very badly about this and thinks of it as a mistake. She wished that she could undo that. So I'm guessing that maybe it was only discussed about Shannen possibly leaving Charmed and it wasn't a set decision when they were done filming the last episode. But while Shannen was away filming the movie with Julian, Brad gave her THE CURSED CALL and she was out the door. A showrunner as Kern is an employee of the production,he may be laid off, he can fire no one, only the production can Brad Kern had planned a big role for Prue,he was completely staggered and had to change everything in a hurry inventing Paige There isn't an interview in which Shannen dumps on Kern, she always talks of how it's great Prue' role in the season four Instead she inveigh against Aaron Spelling who had promised she'ld be the protagonist, not one of the protagonist, forgetting that she had promised to Spelling that never she'ld have put herself again in a position to be arrested In January 2001 she was arrested for driving while intoxicated and reacted with such violence that the agents had to lock her to the ground The Spelling production authority made sure that they didn't try her qhile they were filming the third season If they had arrested Shannen, the third season would be blocked, it is evident that Sperling at the end has lost patience I'm saying Kern gave her the call. He's the producer. He actually does have the authority to fire her. Of course I'm sure the production had a say so in this as well. Where did you hear that Brad had planned a big role for Prue because I've never heard of that. Did I say that there was an interview that she went off about Kern? No, but some of the interviews she's done seemed to imply it. And I never heard of a promise she made with Spelling lol. To me, Prue did get most of the attention until season 3 and that's when Phoebe got all of the spotlight. I do know that she was arrested in December of 2000 for driving while intoxicated. She was sentenced in 2001 though. Judging by the Unauthorized Beverly Hills 90210 Story movie, it seemed the media painted Shannen in a horrible light as the production company felt it was best for Doherty to leave. But I also know that from the articles. It's really sad that she left and that everyone appeared to gloss over the fact that Shannen is a human being with real issues. |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Apr 8, 2016 18:37:02 GMT -5
That's exactly what I'm thinking. She was either gaining the power to sense danger or telepathy. May have been more like a deja vu thing! It couldn't be that because when she fought Shax outside, she felt a chill before he came. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 8, 2016 18:49:31 GMT -5
If anything like that did happen you'd think it'd be with Phoebe right being psychic and whatnot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 19:00:55 GMT -5
That is complete and utter rubbish.
If getting arrested for DUI was enough to get you fired off a show, Charlie Sheen would have been canned from Two And A Half Men LONG before he finally was. And the reason he got canned was not because of his substance abuse problem, at least it wasn't the sole reason. Another big factor was those videos he made in which he trashed Chuck Lorre and CBS, his bosses. This was the straw that broke the camel's back and that is why they gave Mr. Sheen the heave ho.
As I recall, Shannen made no videos in which she trashed Brad Kern/Aaron Spelling/the WB/all of the above. And that DUI was one incident and Shannen owned up to it, case closed. It had nothing to do with her firing from Charmed.
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Post by sol on Apr 11, 2016 9:43:45 GMT -5
It's an old story, unakite it's right
DETAILS MAGAZINE - August 2001, by Brantley Bardin
Shannen Doherty:
"Aaron (Spelling) thinks that owns all of Hollywood and can crush anyone and anything that gets in his way.
Three years ago he asked me to be the star of his new series on the WB ... wanted me and no one else.
I was the main character in the show according to the contract, but suddenly Mr. Spelling didn't want this; he wanted the protagonist was Alyssa Milano, because she is the most beloved and popular American actress, especially among the kids who make up the majority of the audience of the WB channel.
Alyssa didn't want this because she wanted more time for herself, more free time to do cinema, riding and so on. Aaron and the network, however, they nly wanted to promote "Charmed" as if Holly (Marie Combs), me and the rest of the cast didn't count for anything."
"The problem was not Alyssa: she first didn't like the situation. The problem were the networks and Aaron (Spelling) ... their conception of what was best for the show," says Doherty. "I think that the passion for my work was too strong and it was not nice to hear such comments. I mean, what do we do?"
Six months later, at the end of the season, all chickens come home to roost, Doherty had and has her "problems" and so claims that she wants to leave the program.
"You know what?" she says, "I was tired: the lack of appreciation that Aaron (Spelling) is showing for me as a person and as an actress is really too much. It 's like a big deja vu from" BH90210
He does not care about my views, my ideas and so on: they wanted a program for teenagers, it is what they got, and ... well, I've had enough! ".
"So the real problem is Spelling?" I ask.
"I bet that very soon I'll thank Aaron for this decision we take on" Charmed ", as happened years ago for" BH90210 "Doherty says." I am grateful for everything he does for me, but sometimes ... "
"Sometimes?" I ask.
"Nothing. But I do not think of working with him again after" Charmed ", even though I said the same thing after the 4th season of Beverly Hills (laughs) so ... 'never say never', right?"
About her arrest
"I went into a bar and drink too much, too seriously," she admits. "But I was with a sober friend who was driving. Then we went even from Jack in the Box. I thought I was okay, really, then I went in the car, before you can say" I Hate Brenda "(winked at me and smiled in saying this phrase) the police pinched me. "
Yes, we know: she refused the Breathalyzer and Doherty ended up in jail
"How could I have been so stupid?" she says shivering. "I was totally devastated and humiliated, I could not leave my house for a month ... this thing had a big impact on my work and it was a real disaster.
Not only
Declaration of Leslie Sloan, Shando spokeswoman, made on the radio of the WB, June 2001:
"I beg all to analyze the fact: Miss Doherty was not at all sent away
How would it be possible? All of this would not be anything further from the truth.
She started two months ago, more or less, to terminate her contract. Miss Doherty is looking for new creative opportunities, a new personal program to run, a film co-produced by Francis Ford Coppola, and so on.
To be really honest this has happened at the same time that she changed her innocence instance for not contesting the court. The reality is that she had to serve six months in prison but often the typical sentence consists of three years of prohibition and 48 hours in jail
However this would be a strong impediment to her work and even Mr. Spelling wants this. Everyone knows that Mr. Spelling doesn't tolerate this kind of problems, although he has a kind of fondness for Miss Doherty ... he has always had ... but he was pretty comprehensive in letting her go.
She made a choice, no one forced her, and once and for all there was, there is not and there never will be friction between the three girls. They are welll together in and out of the screen
It's all I have to say.
No drama or mystery or atrocious injustices
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 15, 2017 14:07:08 GMT -5
The only explination is you've saved to many lives or your about to save a life they don't want you to save.
My take is that he may save to many lives.
If it was someone they didn't want saved isn't that what whitelighter are for?
It may be someone hurt by none magic or under a curse like Christopher who couldn't be healed until he was human instead of a bird.
Another peeve is why the sisters couldn't use their powers to fend him off. A simple line like he is immune to witches powers could work.
Prue and Piper going to look for him seemed dumb and they weren't able to see a camera crew a few yards down really seemed impossible. I think the scare antics would be raised if they did notice them taking it off from there.
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Post by linamorgana on Mar 21, 2017 15:08:26 GMT -5
Yeah, the media may have made it into a "Shannen vs Alyssa" thing, but it was more likely Kern that she had issues with. She disliked the direction he was taking the show in, and she felt like both the show and her character had stagnated. No I think she left because she was unwilling to sign her new contract for the amount they were offering her at the time. She thought that maybe the producers wouldn't risk losing her since the whole show revolved around the "Power of 3"thing,which wouldn't really work with only two sisters remaining,so she pushed for more money. The producers felt she was pushing way too hard, and told her they would not meet her demands,at which point she called their bluff and stated that she was leaving. The producers were forced to either go back on what they had said and give her the increase in pay or write in a fourth sister; they chose the latter. This might be some truth to this since the cast and Brad Kern complained about how poor the show was handled by the WB. she said the show helped pay her dad's medical bills when he was sick, i don't think she would've tempted fate like that |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 23, 2017 18:07:25 GMT -5
No I think she left because she was unwilling to sign her new contract for the amount they were offering her at the time. She thought that maybe the producers wouldn't risk losing her since the whole show revolved around the "Power of 3"thing,which wouldn't really work with only two sisters remaining,so she pushed for more money. The producers felt she was pushing way too hard, and told her they would not meet her demands,at which point she called their bluff and stated that she was leaving. The producers were forced to either go back on what they had said and give her the increase in pay or write in a fourth sister; they chose the latter. This might be some truth to this since the cast and Brad Kern complained about how poor the show was handled by the WB. she said the show helped pay her dad's medical bills when he was sick, i don't think she would've tempted fate like that I agree totally. I've posted this a number of times, but of all the things I've read, it's still what makes sense to me: Like I’ve said before, if anyone has seen the interview with Holly Marie Combs on the S8 DVD (I wouldn't waste my money on that season, but I saw it on Youtube - it's since been taken down due to copyright reasons), you can tell she was still very bitter with the way Shannen's firing was handled. That, above all else, is what tells me that what she says is what actually happened, much more than any spin that Milano, Kern, Spelling Productions or even Doherty herself has put out. |
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Post by sol on Mar 24, 2017 2:11:47 GMT -5
Shannen is a contradictory person, she was always able to say everything and its opposite, see the video of one of her last convention in which she regretted leaving Charmed
I never thought she was a poor martyr, but a spoiled girl, who grew up as a star since childhood
When she was arrested, they had to secure her to the ground because of her hysterical melodrama, it'ld have been a nightmarish situation for the production because if she got the condemnation she deserved, Charmed'ld end in the middle of the third season
If they chose from the beginning an actress less affected by yearnings of leadership, Charmed story'ld have been different
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Post by adzpower on Mar 24, 2017 4:30:34 GMT -5
I think you can definitely tell that Holly treated the show as a different job when she came back for season four, and by the time we get to season 6 you can tell the actresses just didn't care anymore, Holly was now acting like Holly, not Piper. And I don't blame her one bit, it seems like Shannen was the only one really fighting for the show, she had a voice and used it, whilst the others seemed too nervous, especially once they axed Shannen, what choice did they have but to hush up? And whilst she says different, I'm betting Holly held a lot of resentment towards Alyssa, hence why they drifted apart so quickly once the show was over.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Mar 24, 2017 5:43:05 GMT -5
I think you can definitely tell that Holly treated the show as a different job when she came back for season four, and by the time we get to season 6 you can tell the actresses just didn't care anymore, Holly was now acting like Holly, not Piper. And I don't blame her one bit, it seems like Shannen was the only one really fighting for the show, she had a voice and used it, whilst the others seemed too nervous, especially once they axed Shannen, what choice did they have but to hush up? And whilst she says different, I'm betting Holly held a lot of resentment towards Alyssa, hence why they drifted apart so quickly once the show was over. Your so right with Holly and Alyssa, I just mentioned in another thread about how Holly was so vocal about Alyssa's comments about Charmed being like high school and made them know on twitter. I truly felt, she and Alyssa were not that close, but only worked together and then parted ways after the show ended. But Holly has really surprised me over the years with how opinionated she is about certain things. Noticing how much Shannen has changed, and now just ignores all the questions and maybe cancer has changed her for the best. But again, this just goes to show that real life relationships and friendships can impact a show or movie. |
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Post by eternallycharmed on Mar 30, 2017 14:13:23 GMT -5
Putting all of the backstage stories and drama aside, I really didn't have a problem with the way AHBL was handled as an episode, To me, it felt like it was SUPPOSED to feel chaotic, hence starting in the middle of the action where we don't get to see what transpired before. The sisters are making moment to moment choices without being able to truly examine the consequences, I personally LOVED this. How else could you justify Prue using her powers to the detriment of innocents while trying to get Piper to the hospital? Things have to have spiraled out of control for that to be a possibility. I always took that as part of the reason Prue "died" in the mythology and why there wasn't some kind of magical way to bring her presence back into the show. That's just my take on it purely from the show standpoint.
We all know stuff went on backstage. We could talk about that all day. Everyone was dealing with a lot. The fact of the matter is Shannen was/is a tremendous loss to the show. Regardless of that though, I love season 4. Rose was in such a tough position, and she managed to make it work. Yes, the show had it's share of problems, particularly in the final years, but because I love Charmed, I'm so happy it had staying power and lasted 8 seasons. No show is perfect, and Charmed is no exception. Given Prue's exit and the introduction of Paige, I truly appreciate all that was accomplished with AHBL as an episode.
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Post by nini on Jul 23, 2017 16:36:09 GMT -5
I have rewatched Charmed around 3-4 times in full and I never watched this episode Twice. Just the one time when i was watching Charmed for the first time. I mean sure Shannen and Hollys acting and the hospital scene was heartbreaking and well acted and the scene where Prue just waves all the reporters around was intense(also I felt like all the people that were surrounding the house were all fake/not really human, i mean someone is bleeding, dying and all you care about is the story like nothing happened_ and the ending scene was chilling with the door closing and windows breaking, great execution but apart from that I dont like the episode
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 22, 2021 13:48:48 GMT -5
I don't like the S3 finale. I think the S7 and S8 finale are better. This episode is so abrupt and confusing. IDK why people like the episode so much, but opinions, I guess :/
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Post by zachary on Jun 30, 2023 13:09:40 GMT -5
The chill, the bad feelings...maybe Prue was gainig a new sense That's exactly what I'm thinking. She was either gaining the power to sense danger or telepathy. I'm glad someone else noticed! Over the past year, I've been thinking about this theory that Prue was going to develop telepathy, or SOMETHING similar to a mental ability in this aspect, because there's quite a few times she's sensed things! |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 30, 2023 22:53:09 GMT -5
That's exactly what I'm thinking. She was either gaining the power to sense danger or telepathy. I'm glad someone else noticed! Over the past year, I've been thinking about this theory that Prue was going to develop telepathy, or SOMETHING similar to a mental ability in this aspect, because there's quite a few times she's sensed things! No, you have this scene from AHBL: That's why Prue felt something - that was the warning the Source promised. But he tricked them by doing it when Phoebe was still in the Underworld couldn't save both Prue and Piper like she did the first time. |
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