Post by Esmeralda on Jan 1, 2012 14:37:38 GMT -5
Oh, you're not the only one. Like I showed earlier, Lexi has 3 for each in her virtual series and a number of other fans do, too. I think they find it easier to do that now that it's set up that way in the comic books...we just haven't seen Phoebe's two youngest yet.
I think we'd just find 9 kids a bit hard to handle in any spin-off, even if it was done the way Lexi did it. But in a virtual series, it would be easy to pay that many stars; a lot harder in the real world, especially if you'd have to pay for all the special effects you'd need for nine witches, especially when most of them are witchlighers. If no one had more than 2 (and, better, if one had none), it would be a lot easier.
This wouldn't be the case in an animated series, which I would love to see, especially if the miracle could occur and all of the regulars would voice their character and Paul Ruditis would be the executive producer.
Best of all, none of them would be set up as the new Charmed Ones, the way either Piper's three children or Phoebe's three daughters usually are. I think most of us (me not included...but then I'm used to being the exception to the rule) would prefer the Charmed legacy continuing, but without there being new Charmed Ones.
Speaking of, after reading what all of the Astrals have come up with, I've been having fun pulling an Es and figuring out a way to take what I count as the best of each story and editing it into one alternate Charmed universe, which would include all of the Astrals' stories...Alex, Echo and Chaos.
This would not necessarily be the way I would want the series to go...First I'd have Paige never existing. Prue never dying means Leo would never give into everything Piper wants because he feels guilty for losing Prue, which means he'd still be the Leo I loved for the first three seasons, and so would Piper. It also means she'd be the heart of the family and not its crappy leader. Cole would die at the end of Season Three, saving Phoebe from the Brotherhood of the Thorn (no Sources in my version).
For kids, I'll stick to Trish for Prue and Andy, born after the series is over; Melinda for Piper and Leo, born after the series is over, and Cole's daughter, Nicole, for Phoebe, born after Cole dies saving her from some Big Bad mainly so we don't have to listen to her gripe about finding her daughter's father.
That means just Nicole, Trish and Melinda (born in that order) one all human, one part-angel and one part-demon. Sounds more than enough for me, even if one for each sister is almost as bad as three for each--just a lot easier to handle.
And because they're cousins, not sisters, they never become Charmed, but could still make an interesting spin-off, one totally different than one about their mothers.
But back to the Astrals' scenarioes. This is how I would set it up, taking what I count as the best of each:
Season One would be the same, although when Prue sees Andy Up There, she tells him she's not the only one who needs him...so does their daughter. Andy tells her he knows she'll take good care of their child.
Season Two would obviously center more around Prue's pregnancy, but also her determination to not let it stop her career (I could imagine some lovely sisterly moments after Prue becomes overworked and maybe collapses due to the stress of Buckland's, Demons, grief over Andy and her pregnancy).
The pregnancy would be dragged out juuust a little -- easing the show into a slightly different direction as opposed to the sudden and completely different one we saw when Wyatt and Chris were introduced.
In late Season Two Prue gives birth to a baby girl who she names Patricia Andrea and calls Trish. Had she lived, Prue would have never married or settle down with a guy--instead she would have been perfectly content as a single, successful businesswoman raising a very special daughter.
Season Three could begin much the same way, Piper has been away for a month, leaving Prue and Phoebe on edge - especially without Piper's help with Trish (as her maternal side is evidently needed) and Phoebe is feeling like Prue keeps palming Trish off on her in order to stop the Triad.
During this season, Phoebe also meets Cole, the love of her life. He was raised by his father rather than his mother and although he has to fight the demon inside, he knows what unconditional love is since that's what he got from his father, and that's what he gives Phoebe, spoiling the baby of the family and making her the center of his life.
Prue has an epiphany halfway through the season that Trish is the only thing of Andy she has left, and she becomes more of a mother, slowly letting Piper take more responsibility for hunting for innocents so that she can take care of her daughter.
Then Prue dies in 'All Hell Breaks Loose'..but rather than saving the doctor she ends up saving a different innocent Paige...
During 'Charmed Again', the season premiere of Season Four we see Piper attempting to use Trish as a means to bring Prue back - also with Piper and Phoebe likening themselves with Trish; how they were raised by their grandmother, and how Trish will be raised by her aunts.
Paige would be introduced in much the same way as the original except she'd come to Prue's funeral to thank her for saving her life rather than due to the spell. But on meeting Piper and Phoebe, she sees that Piper refuses to let her touch or have contact with Trish in any way. But around 4x10 when we finally see Piper trust Paige (letting her move in a bit later than in the real Season 4) Paige finally holds Trish, and Trish comes into her power of telekinesis upon Paige's touch.
Towards the end of Season 4, Leo and Piper try for children as normal but it fails just as Phoebe realizes she is pregnant earlier than in the real season, around the fifteenth or sixteenth episode. The plot would happen much the same way with the Cole/Phoebe/Phoetus storyline, but they attempt to vanquish the SOURCE'S ESSENCE and not Cole - however, upon vanquishing the essence it kills Cole accidentally and rids Phoebe's baby of the essence. Instead of Piper discovering she is pregnant in the season finale, it ends with the girls keeping their powers as they owe it to Prue and Cole - and in order to teach Trish and Phoebe's child how to use their own powers.
Phoebe is then frightened of going through motherhood alone like Prue did (they recall the struggle Prue had during Season Three) and is scared that something would happen, leaving Piper and Paige to raise their nieces/nephews alone.
Season Five would then see Piper's early pregnancy-related storylines switch to Phoebe - but instead of being all half-witch/half-whitelighter oriented they would be half-witch/half-demon, and because there would be no 'Crazy Cole' as he died in 4x21 and will always stay dead. Instead during the 100th episode, Phoebe give birth to a girl, Persephone Nicole, who she calls Posey. The baby would be a great controversy in the magical world, with some creatures fearing her and some praising her - but basically realising that she would be good or evil depending on her own choices.
All of this would come out during Season Six as Leo and Piper continue to try for a baby and continue to not succeeding. Trish would get jealous of this new baby and it would appear that she might be developing into Evil Wyatt as a girl. But the sisters recognize the problem and nip it in the bud before it becomes too serious. Eventually Trish loves her new cousin as if she were her own little sister.
During all of this, Paige, who since her sisters have their own daughters to take care of, is most in charge of raising Trish, meets Henry (who takes Kyle's storyline - just without him being obsessed over the Avatars, who don't exist, so he doesn't die.).
Phoebe also attempts to start dating again, but find that now that Posey's powers are coming into effect she finds that hard - but eventually starts a relationship with Jason (who appears two seasons later than the original) - however this only lasts half a season as he is dismissive of Phoebe's daughter and later rejects Phoebe for being a witch. Phoebe then begins a relationship with Drake - who stays for the remainder of the season which is when he dies. Phoebe decides to just stick to her career as Ask Phoebe and raise her daughter.
Also during Season Six, the Titans appear and kill off most of the Elders. The remaining ones want Leo to join them, but he refuses, although other whitelighters take them up on their offer. The power of becoming an Elder goes to their head and they all become evil. The first thing they do is take away all of the powers of the remaining whitelighters, including Leo.
Near the end of Season Six, Piper discovers she's pregnant just before a mysterious whitelighter from the future appears, calling herself Nora, and saving Leo from the Evil Elders.
During Season Seven she convinces the sisters that the only way to stop the Elders is to join forces with evil to bring them down. She introduces them to Zankou who she seems to know a lot about, whereas he has never met her. In the 150th episode The Charmed Ones, Zankou, Nora, demons who agreed to fight, other good magical beings not manipulated by the evil Elders and the last remaining good Elders go to war against the evil Elders.
During the battle, Piper goes to into labor, so Nora orbs Piper back to the Manor leaving Phoebe and Paige with Zankou and the others, to fight against the Evil Elders. Piper and Nora are met by Leo who helps her deliver her baby.
Paige and Phoebe arrive back just in time to greet their baby niece, Melinda. Piper then suggests her middle name should be Nora after the woman who helped bring her into the world but Nora is now nowhere to be seen.
Shortly after the battle and Melinda's birth, Leo is asked by the remaining good Elders and whitelighter community to form a new council under his guidance. He agrees, but only if he's also allowed to continue to be the Charmed Ones' whitelighter, and they agree, so he receives his Elder powers for the first time.
At the end of the 150th, with his new Elder powers he senses a disturbance in the magical order. His new ultra sensing powers take him to Nora in front of an open time portal.
Confused, Leo asks what is going on. Nora then informs him that she was from the future which is why she knew when to come back in order to save him from the evil Elders, how to bring the evil Elders down, about Zankou etc...
He asks her who she really is. And she turns her back on him, pulling up her hair to reveal a birthmark on the back of her neck - the same one we saw moments earlier on baby Melinda. She turns and smiles and tells him that her middle name is actually Leonora..named after him...and she would suggest he gives it to Melinda. After all, shouldn't he and Piper continue the tradition of giving the first baby a form of her father's name as her middle name?
Before passing through the portal, she warns Leo that Zankou must be taken care of and that he is mainly after the immortality amulets that are hidden within P3. She looks sad while saying this, but won't tell him why. Only in the spin-off will we find out that in the original timeline, the sisters trusted Zankou and he ended up killing all three of them, the reason why their three daughters now have to fight him in the future, but since they don't have the Power of Three, they couldn't, the reason why Nora was sent to the past.
(Astral Echo, as the ending, I very simply have to use one of yours:)
In a big fiery vanquish, the sisters risk their lives, fully expecting to die, but Paige manages to panic orb away. Piper and Phoebe are left for dead but using the spell that Chris gave them, Paige does a Forever Charmed and goes back in time to save them.
Paige never goes forward so we never see any of the Charmed Ones as old, just like we never saw Piper and Leo old earlier. Paige gathers Grams and Patty to help save the day. Paige phases back into her own body as soon the group arrives.
Patty freezes Zankou as Grams TK's the amulet away from Zankou and then Piper blows him across the room. Now unprotected by the amulet, the family recite the Source vanquish spell and then the sisters saying the P3 spell to protect them all from the explosion (which of course was what killed Phoebe and Piper the first time around).
In happy but not sappy ending, Piper, Phoebe and Paige walk down the stairs together, admiring the photographs on the wall as we get flashbacks of the past significant to each image, ending with the picture of the original Power of Three. Then there's a bit of magic and Paige becomes a part of it, too.
We don't see the future at all...that's left for the spin-off! Any extra kids (or spouses) can be added then.
Hehehehe! So I ended up with my mortal child (Trish), my half-demon child (Posey) and my half-angel child (Melinda). It wasn't on purpose; just the way it ended up coming out. I can't see them becoming Charmed since they're not sisters, but I can sure see them starring in "Chosen" - the spin-off.
Season Two would obviously center more around Prue's pregnancy, but also her determination to not let it stop her career (I could imagine some lovely sisterly moments after Prue becomes overworked and maybe collapses due to the stress of Buckland's, Demons, grief over Andy and her pregnancy).
The pregnancy would be dragged out juuust a little -- easing the show into a slightly different direction as opposed to the sudden and completely different one we saw when Wyatt and Chris were introduced.
In late Season Two Prue gives birth to a baby girl who she names Patricia Andrea and calls Trish. Had she lived, Prue would have never married or settle down with a guy--instead she would have been perfectly content as a single, successful businesswoman raising a very special daughter.
Season Three could begin much the same way, Piper has been away for a month, leaving Prue and Phoebe on edge - especially without Piper's help with Trish (as her maternal side is evidently needed) and Phoebe is feeling like Prue keeps palming Trish off on her in order to stop the Triad.
During this season, Phoebe also meets Cole, the love of her life. He was raised by his father rather than his mother and although he has to fight the demon inside, he knows what unconditional love is since that's what he got from his father, and that's what he gives Phoebe, spoiling the baby of the family and making her the center of his life.
Prue has an epiphany halfway through the season that Trish is the only thing of Andy she has left, and she becomes more of a mother, slowly letting Piper take more responsibility for hunting for innocents so that she can take care of her daughter.
Then Prue dies in 'All Hell Breaks Loose'..but rather than saving the doctor she ends up saving a different innocent Paige...
During 'Charmed Again', the season premiere of Season Four we see Piper attempting to use Trish as a means to bring Prue back - also with Piper and Phoebe likening themselves with Trish; how they were raised by their grandmother, and how Trish will be raised by her aunts.
Paige would be introduced in much the same way as the original except she'd come to Prue's funeral to thank her for saving her life rather than due to the spell. But on meeting Piper and Phoebe, she sees that Piper refuses to let her touch or have contact with Trish in any way. But around 4x10 when we finally see Piper trust Paige (letting her move in a bit later than in the real Season 4) Paige finally holds Trish, and Trish comes into her power of telekinesis upon Paige's touch.
Towards the end of Season 4, Leo and Piper try for children as normal but it fails just as Phoebe realizes she is pregnant earlier than in the real season, around the fifteenth or sixteenth episode. The plot would happen much the same way with the Cole/Phoebe/Phoetus storyline, but they attempt to vanquish the SOURCE'S ESSENCE and not Cole - however, upon vanquishing the essence it kills Cole accidentally and rids Phoebe's baby of the essence. Instead of Piper discovering she is pregnant in the season finale, it ends with the girls keeping their powers as they owe it to Prue and Cole - and in order to teach Trish and Phoebe's child how to use their own powers.
Phoebe is then frightened of going through motherhood alone like Prue did (they recall the struggle Prue had during Season Three) and is scared that something would happen, leaving Piper and Paige to raise their nieces/nephews alone.
Season Five would then see Piper's early pregnancy-related storylines switch to Phoebe - but instead of being all half-witch/half-whitelighter oriented they would be half-witch/half-demon, and because there would be no 'Crazy Cole' as he died in 4x21 and will always stay dead. Instead during the 100th episode, Phoebe give birth to a girl, Persephone Nicole, who she calls Posey. The baby would be a great controversy in the magical world, with some creatures fearing her and some praising her - but basically realising that she would be good or evil depending on her own choices.
All of this would come out during Season Six as Leo and Piper continue to try for a baby and continue to not succeeding. Trish would get jealous of this new baby and it would appear that she might be developing into Evil Wyatt as a girl. But the sisters recognize the problem and nip it in the bud before it becomes too serious. Eventually Trish loves her new cousin as if she were her own little sister.
During all of this, Paige, who since her sisters have their own daughters to take care of, is most in charge of raising Trish, meets Henry (who takes Kyle's storyline - just without him being obsessed over the Avatars, who don't exist, so he doesn't die.).
Phoebe also attempts to start dating again, but find that now that Posey's powers are coming into effect she finds that hard - but eventually starts a relationship with Jason (who appears two seasons later than the original) - however this only lasts half a season as he is dismissive of Phoebe's daughter and later rejects Phoebe for being a witch. Phoebe then begins a relationship with Drake - who stays for the remainder of the season which is when he dies. Phoebe decides to just stick to her career as Ask Phoebe and raise her daughter.
Also during Season Six, the Titans appear and kill off most of the Elders. The remaining ones want Leo to join them, but he refuses, although other whitelighters take them up on their offer. The power of becoming an Elder goes to their head and they all become evil. The first thing they do is take away all of the powers of the remaining whitelighters, including Leo.
Near the end of Season Six, Piper discovers she's pregnant just before a mysterious whitelighter from the future appears, calling herself Nora, and saving Leo from the Evil Elders.
During Season Seven she convinces the sisters that the only way to stop the Elders is to join forces with evil to bring them down. She introduces them to Zankou who she seems to know a lot about, whereas he has never met her. In the 150th episode The Charmed Ones, Zankou, Nora, demons who agreed to fight, other good magical beings not manipulated by the evil Elders and the last remaining good Elders go to war against the evil Elders.
During the battle, Piper goes to into labor, so Nora orbs Piper back to the Manor leaving Phoebe and Paige with Zankou and the others, to fight against the Evil Elders. Piper and Nora are met by Leo who helps her deliver her baby.
Paige and Phoebe arrive back just in time to greet their baby niece, Melinda. Piper then suggests her middle name should be Nora after the woman who helped bring her into the world but Nora is now nowhere to be seen.
Shortly after the battle and Melinda's birth, Leo is asked by the remaining good Elders and whitelighter community to form a new council under his guidance. He agrees, but only if he's also allowed to continue to be the Charmed Ones' whitelighter, and they agree, so he receives his Elder powers for the first time.
At the end of the 150th, with his new Elder powers he senses a disturbance in the magical order. His new ultra sensing powers take him to Nora in front of an open time portal.
Confused, Leo asks what is going on. Nora then informs him that she was from the future which is why she knew when to come back in order to save him from the evil Elders, how to bring the evil Elders down, about Zankou etc...
He asks her who she really is. And she turns her back on him, pulling up her hair to reveal a birthmark on the back of her neck - the same one we saw moments earlier on baby Melinda. She turns and smiles and tells him that her middle name is actually Leonora..named after him...and she would suggest he gives it to Melinda. After all, shouldn't he and Piper continue the tradition of giving the first baby a form of her father's name as her middle name?
Before passing through the portal, she warns Leo that Zankou must be taken care of and that he is mainly after the immortality amulets that are hidden within P3. She looks sad while saying this, but won't tell him why. Only in the spin-off will we find out that in the original timeline, the sisters trusted Zankou and he ended up killing all three of them, the reason why their three daughters now have to fight him in the future, but since they don't have the Power of Three, they couldn't, the reason why Nora was sent to the past.
(Astral Echo, as the ending, I very simply have to use one of yours:)
In a big fiery vanquish, the sisters risk their lives, fully expecting to die, but Paige manages to panic orb away. Piper and Phoebe are left for dead but using the spell that Chris gave them, Paige does a Forever Charmed and goes back in time to save them.
Paige never goes forward so we never see any of the Charmed Ones as old, just like we never saw Piper and Leo old earlier. Paige gathers Grams and Patty to help save the day. Paige phases back into her own body as soon the group arrives.
Patty freezes Zankou as Grams TK's the amulet away from Zankou and then Piper blows him across the room. Now unprotected by the amulet, the family recite the Source vanquish spell and then the sisters saying the P3 spell to protect them all from the explosion (which of course was what killed Phoebe and Piper the first time around).
In happy but not sappy ending, Piper, Phoebe and Paige walk down the stairs together, admiring the photographs on the wall as we get flashbacks of the past significant to each image, ending with the picture of the original Power of Three. Then there's a bit of magic and Paige becomes a part of it, too.
We don't see the future at all...that's left for the spin-off! Any extra kids (or spouses) can be added then.
Hehehehe! So I ended up with my mortal child (Trish), my half-demon child (Posey) and my half-angel child (Melinda). It wasn't on purpose; just the way it ended up coming out. I can't see them becoming Charmed since they're not sisters, but I can sure see them starring in "Chosen" - the spin-off.
So?? What do you guys think? I'm sure you'll each like your own version best (just like I like mine better than this), but as an attempt to combine all of them, not bad, huh?
